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December 13, 2021, 02:05:06 AM
We will draw the last 16 of the Champions League today! Let's get excited!

What pairs are you looking forward to seeing? There's something I need to check. I don't care about any of these other lineups as long as Chelsea plays Bayern. Do you think Chelsea can win the Championship? Bayern and PSG would be another interesting matchup. I'll check something. It is up to them to convince us whether they are capable of winning the champions league or not.
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December 12, 2021, 09:18:41 PM
Right now we have some good talk about this year champion and two teams are mostly in talk because of their desire first one is PSG and second one is Manchester City but sadly again this year we are checking these both teams have no chance to win title because their players are not good enough for this title like we have in Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Ajax. My feeling about these teams is most chances they will not reach into last four but still many things to happen in next few months when we will be back in knock out stage in February with some better teams and having good competition for winning this year's title.
About the teams you have mentioned, Only Liverpool team has solid each position. I doubt Chelsea repeating the same thing as last year and the same at another team like Manchester city weak on front and versa. So far, Bayern Munchen is a team with perfect points, they are a strong opponent for Liverpool. I hope they don't meet at the beginning. This Monday is 2nd round drawing, both have a chance to meet in 2nd round.


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December 12, 2021, 07:39:48 PM
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In any case, the deciding factor will not be what form the Champions League favourites are in at the moment, but what form the teams will be in for the decisive matches. Another question is that we still need to get to these decisive matches. Therefore, I would not advise paying such close attention to the results of the group stage and who managed to score how many points.
I agree that what's more important is the team's and players form when the big match comes but I wouldn't completely discard the results of the group stage. We can only speculate as fans on the possible strategies each team will use and we need all the possible information we could get from their previous matches.
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December 12, 2021, 06:59:47 PM
PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.
Right now we have some good talk about this year champion and two teams are mostly in talk because of their desire first one is PSG and second one is Manchester City but sadly again this year we are checking these both teams have no chance to win title because their players are not good enough for this title like we have in Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Ajax. My feeling about these teams is most chances they will not reach into last four but still many things to happen in next few months when we will be back in knock out stage in February with some better teams and having good competition for winning this year's title.
n any case, the deciding factor will not be what form the Champions League favourites are in at the moment, but what form the teams will be in for the decisive matches. Another question is that we still need to get to these decisive matches.
well said I totally agree, no matter how good a team is they always have those days where things aren't working out for them, whether it was in attack or defense and of course without forgetting about injuries, but we can still try and predict, for me Man City can actually win it after a lot of disappointments, but still really hard to predict, the draw plays a big role for sure, the 16th round will result in some big teams leaving early when they face each other.
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December 12, 2021, 06:51:45 PM
PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.
Right now we have some good talk about this year champion and two teams are mostly in talk because of their desire first one is PSG and second one is Manchester City but sadly again this year we are checking these both teams have no chance to win title because their players are not good enough for this title like we have in Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Ajax. My feeling about these teams is most chances they will not reach into last four but still many things to happen in next few months when we will be back in knock out stage in February with some better teams and having good competition for winning this year's title.
In any case, the deciding factor will not be what form the Champions League favourites are in at the moment, but what form the teams will be in for the decisive matches. Another question is that we still need to get to these decisive matches. Therefore, I would not advise paying such close attention to the results of the group stage and who managed to score how many points. The cup system has its own laws, which differ from the laws of a round-robin tournament, when everything is decided in two matches and the strongest opponent does not always win, but very often a more patient and successful opponent achieves victory.
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December 12, 2021, 06:38:36 PM
PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.
Right now we have some good talk about this year champion and two teams are mostly in talk because of their desire first one is PSG and second one is Manchester City but sadly again this year we are checking these both teams have no chance to win title because their players are not good enough for this title like we have in Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Ajax. My feeling about these teams is most chances they will not reach into last four but still many things to happen in next few months when we will be back in knock out stage in February with some better teams and having good competition for winning this year's title.

Ugh, I disagree completely here. Manchester City is always a candidate for a Champions League win right now. It is not as if their team was "bad". The team is a bit unbalanced when it comes to the total number of midfielders or players who play rather like midfielders than like offenders. But I would not say they can't win the title. PSG can also win the title. They do have the quality within their squad for sure. My favorite is once more Bayern Munich. They have a balanced squad from goalie to offenders and they are motivated like hell.
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December 12, 2021, 05:21:20 PM
PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.
Right now we have some good talk about this year champion and two teams are mostly in talk because of their desire first one is PSG and second one is Manchester City but sadly again this year we are checking these both teams have no chance to win title because their players are not good enough for this title like we have in Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Ajax. My feeling about these teams is most chances they will not reach into last four but still many things to happen in next few months when we will be back in knock out stage in February with some better teams and having good competition for winning this year's title.
Huge money spent created a dream team like PSG and manchester city ..

it feels like a video game in real world where you can put the best player on the game into your team , in this case the both teams mathematically will always considered as a favorite every season , but then failed. huge advantages for bookies though.
i just cant see any financial fair play more lol they are dead with money in their pockets.
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December 12, 2021, 05:10:41 PM
PSG might have the star players and all but they still lack the experience that comes with Uefa league games, and fortunately for Manchester United have plenty of it to give themselves the edge over the french champions.
What experience are you talking about, is it about the Champions League title or is it about how they got to the final?
PSG have not even tasted the Champions League title despite having many quality players in their team. That's a good reason why they bought so many players like that and that's his ambition to win the Champions League.


PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.

I remember the games between Bayern Munich and PSG last season. Those games both were just marvelous and I totally enjoyed watching them. It was really difficult for PSG but they still managed to eliminate Bayern Munich by a close call. Even this proves that they have a big potential for winning the title. And now, they have Messi too. They have all the things they need for being more assertive for the title. We will see if they will make it this time.
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December 12, 2021, 05:02:52 PM
PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.
Right now we have some good talk about this year champion and two teams are mostly in talk because of their desire first one is PSG and second one is Manchester City but sadly again this year we are checking these both teams have no chance to win title because their players are not good enough for this title like we have in Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Ajax. My feeling about these teams is most chances they will not reach into last four but still many things to happen in next few months when we will be back in knock out stage in February with some better teams and having good competition for winning this year's title.
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December 12, 2021, 02:38:35 PM
I just can't wait to see the draws tomorrow. I wonder one thing the most whether we will see one draw or maybe more than one like an early final match. I would like to see that kind of draws when we are closing in to the final stage. And I wonder what Bayern Munich will do if they have a draw vs PSG again like the last season. They have an unfinished business with PSG. They would like to take revenge on them in that case.
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December 12, 2021, 02:29:00 PM
PSG might have the star players and all but they still lack the experience that comes with Uefa league games, and fortunately for Manchester United have plenty of it to give themselves the edge over the french champions.
What experience are you talking about, is it about the Champions League title or is it about how they got to the final?
PSG have not even tasted the Champions League title despite having many quality players in their team. That's a good reason why they bought so many players like that and that's his ambition to win the Champions League.


PSG is fully of players who have won the title already. Apart from that they also have been in the final against Bayern Munich, which with a little bit of luck can end in their favor. It is not like they are without experience, but what I do think is that they might lack focus because they don't have to keep up their highest level for a whole season as Ligue 1 is too weak. Whereas other teams are focussing all year long and are ready anytime for the big challenges.
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December 12, 2021, 02:23:53 PM
PSG might have the star players and all but they still lack the experience that comes with Uefa league games, and fortunately for Manchester United have plenty of it to give themselves the edge over the french champions.
What experience are you talking about, is it about the Champions League title or is it about how they got to the final?
PSG have not even tasted the Champions League title despite having many quality players in their team. That's a good reason why they bought so many players like that and that's his ambition to win the Champions League.
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December 12, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
It's really strange to see this season the last 16 without Barcelona, ​​because we know that Barcelona was previously a fairly consistent club in the champions league, my prediction is that maybe there will be some big games that occur in the draw later,  I want to see a meeting between Messi (PSG) and Ronaldo (manchester) in the last 16 later.

This is the game most awaited by fans, that it happens. But it may never come to pass.
Despite PSG and Man United, they will be two great teams, this season is not going as well as expected. Both teams finished in second place and both had the same points, not being able to show a big difference in stage to the other clubs in the group.

It is now 18 years ago that Fc Barcelona missed the final round of the Champions League for the last time. 18 years...

As for Ronaldo and Messi meeting in the final round, yes that would be awesome. I already miss those clashes between them that they had in the Primera Division, let's hope there will be at least another one or two duels between them.
You people should avoid Ronaldo now lolz.
Manchester United is struggling now and do not need Psg, infact ATM will be a better option please.
When Messi sees Ronaldo now, or vice versa they will just change the game to personal battle.
That would have been fine if Manchester United should be in a good form.
As for Barcelona, going to Europa is not the problem. The problem is that will they survive there or will still crash out. Grin

I think in a head to head match Manchester United can compete with PSG. Even though they are not in perfect shape, but champions league games are a different type of motivation even for a team that is not in top shape. Ronaldo will be motivated through the roof if they face PSG. Would definitely be an interesting one to watch.
PSG might have the star players and all but they still lack the experience that comes with Uefa league games, and fortunately for Manchester United have plenty of it to give themselves the edge over the french champions.

If asked who would win this game of course it will have to be Ronaldo and company and I know many want this fixture to happen as Messi and Cristiano get to meet Cool
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December 12, 2021, 11:37:46 AM
PSG's current performance can't be said to be perfect even though they have lots of players who can be called avengers but their performance is still lacking with this list of players labeled as stars.
even this season I doubt they can contribute much to UCL if they can't reduce their ego because in some games I see that they are more concerned with ego than teamwork.
They have to reduce this attitude and in terms of coaching it looks like Poche should try to make new strategies because their tactics and strategies are very easy to read
PSG have a number of star-labeled players in their team but the performance they have produced doesn't seem extraordinary, I think it's true. The ego between players may be the reason why their form is not improving, but I think there are other problems that I think Pochettino needs to solve and one of them is the rotation of the midfielders. I don't know which player should fill this position on a regular basis in every game, but rotation is needed I think.

Messi and Mbappe seem to be getting along and supporting each other, so this will open up more opportunities for the team to win the match. Mbappe should be able to interact with Messi more, but he still needs a lot of time even though at some point Messi can help him get individual awards as the best player in the future. In the Champions League they both scored 2 goals in the last group stage match, and Mbappe provided a good assist for Messi.
some time ago there was a video circulating about a dispute between mbappe and neymar who did not trust each other in the middle of a match which made their front lines seem like they were playing individually without regard to teamwork. this is one of the facts that their ego is still very high.
Talking about Poche actually I feel like he can't manage a team as big as PSG well.
okay in terms of performance in ligue 1 indeed they continue to be first in the position table but their opponents are far when compared to the quality of the team and the potential of the players.
Poche is too poor in tactics which makes PSG's pattern of play always monotonous
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December 12, 2021, 11:28:06 AM
It's really strange to see this season the last 16 without Barcelona, ​​because we know that Barcelona was previously a fairly consistent club in the champions league, my prediction is that maybe there will be some big games that occur in the draw later,  I want to see a meeting between Messi (PSG) and Ronaldo (manchester) in the last 16 later.

This is the game most awaited by fans, that it happens. But it may never come to pass.
Despite PSG and Man United, they will be two great teams, this season is not going as well as expected. Both teams finished in second place and both had the same points, not being able to show a big difference in stage to the other clubs in the group.

It is now 18 years ago that Fc Barcelona missed the final round of the Champions League for the last time. 18 years...

As for Ronaldo and Messi meeting in the final round, yes that would be awesome. I already miss those clashes between them that they had in the Primera Division, let's hope there will be at least another one or two duels between them.
You people should avoid Ronaldo now lolz.
Manchester United is struggling now and do not need Psg, infact ATM will be a better option please.
When Messi sees Ronaldo now, or vice versa they will just change the game to personal battle.
That would have been fine if Manchester United should be in a good form.
As for Barcelona, going to Europa is not the problem. The problem is that will they survive there or will still crash out. Grin

I think in a head to head match Manchester United can compete with PSG. Even though they are not in perfect shape, but champions league games are a different type of motivation even for a team that is not in top shape. Ronaldo will be motivated through the roof if they face PSG. Would definitely be an interesting one to watch.
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December 12, 2021, 04:54:30 AM


It's really strange to see this season the last 16 without Barcelona, ​​because we know that Barcelona was previously a fairly consistent club in the champions league, my prediction is that maybe there will be some big games that occur in the draw later,  I want to see a meeting between Messi (PSG) and Ronaldo (manchester) in the last 16 later.
An interesting thing happened this season because Barcelona had to be willing to go down to UEL and AFAIK they last played in the Europa League in the 2003-2004 season where it was 1 season before Messi debuted in Barcelona and today Barcelona are back playing in the Europa League 1 The season after Messi left Barcelona.
a surprising coincidence for me because indeed with something like this they would probably be able to appreciate some of their star players more
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December 12, 2021, 02:50:00 AM
Manchester United can win the Champions League, they are getting back to winning ways,game after game,I hope the coach geta suitable formation and tactics that suits the set of players present in Manchester United.
It's embarrassing going without a major trophy year after year.

There is always a possibility for them too to win the Champions League. However, it is going to be a very difficult journey for Manchester United. Because there are very strong opponents ahead of them. And still, Manchester United's performance level is below the performance levels of the other strong teams now. They should work harder to get much stronger than now.
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December 12, 2021, 02:35:29 AM
Contrary to the majority of Barcelona fans, I do not believe that Xavi will be able to revive Barcelona. He has no experience of building a team from scratch. Barcelona needs to build a new team. Guardiola's situation was much easier and in those days many clubs were in decline. Now there are many strong clubs, and Barcelona, ​​in addition to financial problems, has staffing problems. There are no players around whom to build a team. So Barcelona has a long recovery ahead of it, possibly 3-5 years.
You can't blame Xavi in any of this happening in Barcelona, prior to him becoming the coach of Barca we all knows that Barca are going out of the champions League group stage,you can not say he can't create a team when you have not giving him a try,yea I agree with you that pep case is different but we should give Hernandez time,he won trophies at a new team at Qatar as a player and as a coach.the January market is around the corner let's see how they support him because I know he might have discuss about such things before taking the job.

I don’t blame Xavi for Barcelona’s problems. You misunderstood me. At the moment, no coach with this squad will be able to show results. I think that Xavi will not be able to build a team. His experience in Qatar means nothing. He came to a strong team and he had unlimited resources. And the Qatar league is different from the Spanish league. It's a different level. I think Laporta will replace Xavi as soon as the financial problem in Barcelona is solved. And a completely different person will be building a new Barcelona.

A completely different person still also needs a completely different squad in order to be able to change and achieve anything at all. Xavi didn't get the timing right I think. His hope is he can turn things around, but there is nothing to turn around. The team is just quite bad. I agree that the experience from Qatar really doesn't count.
In Barcelona, ​​not every coach can work. The team hires coaches who do not change the basic tactics of the game. This is the peculiarity of Barcelona and perhaps their weakness. If Xavi can put on a faster game using the youth and physical strength of the current players, then I think there will be more benefits. Tiki-taka no longer works. For this tactic, players like Iniesta and Xavi are needed. But they are no longer and are unlikely to appear. But Xavi stubbornly holds on to the old. That is why I think that his path will not bring much benefit.
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December 12, 2021, 01:09:27 AM
Manchester United can win the Champions League, they are getting back to winning ways,game after game,I hope the coach geta suitable formation and tactics that suits the set of players present in Manchester United.
It's embarrassing going without a major trophy year after year.

Manchester United have a chance, but they need a favorable draw, and they will need to beat a great team over two legs.  Unless Manchester United get PSG, they should expect to win their round of 16 tie.  Now, in pot 1, Juve and Lille are in there.  If one of those teams gets matched up with, say, Sporting or Benfica, then that means the quarterfinals will have a couple of "weak" teams in it.  But at the latest, Manchester United would meet an elite team in the semis.  That's really the only way I see Manchester United having a chance in the CL.  They should get a reasonable draw in the round of 16, but they have no chance of beating, say, Liverpool in the quarters and Bayern in the semis.
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December 12, 2021, 01:02:29 AM
Manchester United can win the Champions League, they are getting back to winning ways,game after game,I hope the coach geta suitable formation and tactics that suits the set of players present in Manchester United.
It's embarrassing going without a major trophy year after year.

Looking at their performances and tactics, do you really think they deserve to win the Champions League? I don't think they will able to win the Premier League title either. Although their squad is strong, the bonding between the players is not good. I saw their gameplay against Norwich in the Premier League yesterday. Gameplay like average team. Looking at their gameplay does not seem to be a strong team.
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