UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 515.

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Quote from: joker_josue on December 06, 2021, 06:38:38 AM

Quote from: iv4n on December 06, 2021, 06:09:17 AM

now they are in a crazy situation if Benfica wins against Dinamo, and I am betting they will, even draw will not save them I guess... so Barsa has to win, but can they win? Definitely, the last two games in group E are very interesting, the fight for the runner-up position!

Benfica will want to give everything in this game, after having lost in the last game of the championship to their main rival, they will want to leave a good image against Dinamo. In addition, Benfica's coach is being heavily contested, so he needs the team to win.

Also, I find it difficult for Barcelona to beat Bayern, but in football everything is possible, but it will be difficult.

To be honest, I see that it is very difficult for Barcelona to win, I don't know, but Xavi has done everything he could with Barcelona, I don't know if it's because the players are tired, or maybe age is taking its toll, but Seeing that they have problems leaving Dembelé at home, it gives much to be desired, however Bayer is very strong and hungry to win, and because of the team's nature I think they will not give away a minimum on the field of play , each ball is very fought, besides that it is a very fast and somewhat rough football.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 09, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

Atalanta is Out from the Cl so now we have odds.

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We will have probably Real Vs Chealse or PSG.

Lets see the variance Cheesy

Nice spreadsheet

PSG and Chelsea are in a tough spot, although if Chelsea is lucky it will get Lille. But PSG have no chances to avoid a strong opponent starting from the 1/8 finals. And this is good, I get tired of the fact that in the Champions League the real fight starts mainly from the quarter-finals stage. Even the elimination of teams like Milan, Borussia and Barcelona this year does not change the overall pattern.

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Quote from: snipie on December 08, 2021, 07:39:21 PM

Quote from: diderdrogba on December 08, 2021, 07:06:32 PM

They should be grateful that Bayern Munich didn't score 2 or 3 goals more.

That's what I was talking about!
I expected Bayern to score more goals in the second half but they just scored 1. After all receiving only 3 goals from Bayern twice is an achievement these days for them..

Quote from: diderdrogba on December 08, 2021, 07:06:32 PM

Maybe it is going to be awkward to see Barcelona in the Europa League but I really want to experience the feeling as soon as possible.

Hopefully the feeling will not be to see them getting kicked from EL too since the early stages because there is fierce opponents there.
BTW not sure whether Sevilla is upset for leaving CL or happy to join their preferred league! and could they lift the trophy this time?

Sevilla are a very familiar team with the Europa League. When we look at the history of this tournament in last 10 years, we can see that Sevilla won the cup for 4 times. This is really a great achievement for them. They threaten their opponents by these successes but who knows maybe they won't even be able to leave the coming stage behind successfully.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 09, 2021, 04:59:22 PM

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We will have probably Real Vs Chealse or PSG.

if real madrid is playing against chelsea or PSG it will be as if real madrid had won the lottery, chelsea is in bad shape and PSG is the same thing as chelsea, they have defense problems especially PSG can't beat teams big, the real madrid would win easily

Chelsea's poor form is understandable given that they have lost the majority of their key players to injury at the most crucial time of the season; Tuchel was forced to play James in midfield in their last game; so many players have been forced to play out of position that I'm confident that by the time the Knockout phase arrives, the majority of the players will be back on their feet.

PSG's continuous troubles in important games is something I don't understand; they have world-class players in every position and yet they continue to fall short of expectations.

I have no idea what's going on.

Real Madrid has been winning games not because they were the best team, but because they took advantage of the few opportunities they had. They are one of the teams Chelsea most wants to play.

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Quote from: dustboy on December 09, 2021, 05:11:26 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 09, 2021, 04:59:22 PM

if real madrid is playing against chelsea or PSG it will be as if real madrid had won the lottery, chelsea is in bad shape and PSG is the same thing as chelsea, they have defense problems especially PSG can't beat teams big, the real madrid would win easily

As scheduled, the first leg for the round of 16 will be on February next year. Means, there are many times for any team to change and improve. You say Chelsea and PSG is in bad shape, do you think they will always stay in bad shape?

Remember, there will be also transfer window in January where any team can improve their squad by purchasing some new players. So even if Real Madrid will be playing against Chelsea/PSG, it does not mean that it will be an easy opponent for Real Madrid.

Indeed, it would be better for Real Madrid to avoid such hard games in this stage since its outcome might be upsetting for everyone.
"Bad shape" is so variable thing, from day to day, from national to international games, depends from injuries, manager decisions...etc
Until then, many things could happen to every team there, so better to wait after the upcoming transfer window to have a clearer vision.

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We will have probably Real Vs Chealse or PSG.

if real madrid is playing against chelsea or PSG it will be as if real madrid had won the lottery, chelsea is in bad shape and PSG is the same thing as chelsea, they have defense problems especially PSG can't beat teams big, the real madrid would win easily

As scheduled, the first leg for the round of 16 will be on February next year. Means, there are many times for any team to change and improve. You say Chelsea and PSG is in bad shape, do you think they will always stay in bad shape?

Remember, there will be also transfer window in January where any team can improve their squad by purchasing some new players. So even if Real Madrid will be playing against Chelsea/PSG, it does not mean that it will be an easy opponent for Real Madrid.

PSG has already spent a lot of money and has good players, I doubt they bring any player that is better than the players currently on PSG, chelsea has good players too and I doubt they blush in despair for any player... chelsea is with a problem in defense maybe it's tired, but even if they get better I doubt they'll beat the real madrid, PSG don't have a chance unless they change coach and the players stop being lazy

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 09, 2021, 05:08:32 PM

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Chelsea were really effective in attacking against Zenit yesterday. Even Werner scored two goals in this game. However, they still couldn't prevent Zenit from scoring the same amount of goals as them and getting one point. As Juventus defeated Malmo, they lost their leadership to Juventus unfortunately. I say like that because I was favoring Chelsea for the 1st position at the end of the group stage.

I think the Chelsea players were getting to excited and always wanting to score and not defending. The players need to know what their roles are on the pitch. I understand that the coach didn't want to risk anymore injuries. Otherwise Sarr & Christensen are too average. Chelsea only have depths in attack otherwise in midfield & Defence they are poor. Once Chalaboah, Thiago & Rudiger are not playing they get exposed. Same with Christensen if he is not along side Rudiger or Thiago we all see how average he is. Poor defensive organization, they were playing without a leader at the back. It is extremely annoying and appalling. Something has to be done very fast before it will get out of hand. Very bad 6 goals was conceded in just 3 matches.

Or maybe Chelsea had their minds on their next Premier League game which is against Leeds. Because I wouldn't expect such a poor performance from Chelsea against a team like Zenit, no offense. Grin

Because their usual game plan and performance are much better than this one. And if they did care about ending this stage as the leader, I've no doubt that they would have put a much bigger effort in this game.

Tuchel lost the top spot in his group in a very strange way.. and returned with a draw from outside the ground, placing him second after Juventus.
He did not like the result, nor did the opponents either.
There are teams that wanted to avoid the title holder, but he came on the way to becoming very likely.
and don't ask about the reason for fear, because
Chelsea, despite its fluctuation recently, is a ghost in the face of the aspiring teams, and do not be tempted by weakness Sometimes, it's a team that can make Stamford black on its guests with no precedents.
The Blues have been receiving many goals in the last period.. This is a problem that troubles the coach and pushes him to find a solution, and he will inevitably find it, because the names are big and they can make up for it, and Tuchel is well aware of this.

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It was a wonderful game to watch but a bit unexpected at the same time. Bayern managed to win and Barcelona is going to europa right now, I am sure that is not something europa teams would love to hear but it has finally happened.

I do not remember the last time they were this bad to be honest, must have been over a decade since they were not going to next stage, or maybe I am just not remembering any time. Bayern on the other hand, I was really expecting Lewandowski to score many games because of the ballon dor thing, and he didn't at all, it was a weird one because of it, I totally expected him to demonstrate why he deserved in that game, and he failed to do so.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 09, 2021, 04:59:22 PM

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We will have probably Real Vs Chealse or PSG.

if real madrid is playing against chelsea or PSG it will be as if real madrid had won the lottery, chelsea is in bad shape and PSG is the same thing as chelsea, they have defense problems especially PSG can't beat teams big, the real madrid would win easily

As scheduled, the first leg for the round of 16 will be on February next year. Means, there are many times for any team to change and improve. You say Chelsea and PSG is in bad shape, do you think they will always stay in bad shape?

Remember, there will be also transfer window in January where any team can improve their squad by purchasing some new players. So even if Real Madrid will be playing against Chelsea/PSG, it does not mean that it will be an easy opponent for Real Madrid.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 09, 2021, 02:36:41 AM

Chelsea were really effective in attacking against Zenit yesterday. Even Werner scored two goals in this game. However, they still couldn't prevent Zenit from scoring the same amount of goals as them and getting one point. As Juventus defeated Malmo, they lost their leadership to Juventus unfortunately. I say like that because I was favoring Chelsea for the 1st position at the end of the group stage.

I think the Chelsea players were getting to excited and always wanting to score and not defending. The players need to know what their roles are on the pitch. I understand that the coach didn't want to risk anymore injuries. Otherwise Sarr & Christensen are too average. Chelsea only have depths in attack otherwise in midfield & Defence they are poor. Once Chalaboah, Thiago & Rudiger are not playing they get exposed. Same with Christensen if he is not along side Rudiger or Thiago we all see how average he is. Poor defensive organization, they were playing without a leader at the back. It is extremely annoying and appalling. Something has to be done very fast before it will get out of hand. Very bad 6 goals was conceded in just 3 matches.

Or maybe Chelsea had their minds on their next Premier League game which is against Leeds. Because I wouldn't expect such a poor performance from Chelsea against a team like Zenit, no offense. Grin

Because their usual game plan and performance are much better than this one. And if they did care about ending this stage as the leader, I've no doubt that they would have put a much bigger effort in this game.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 09, 2021, 04:06:08 PM

We will have probably Real Vs Chealse or PSG.

if real madrid is playing against chelsea or PSG it will be as if real madrid had won the lottery, chelsea is in bad shape and PSG is the same thing as chelsea, they have defense problems especially PSG can't beat teams big, the real madrid would win easily

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This was the expected result. There is no hope that Barcelona will win. But they had the ability to draw. But they have shown very lightning performance. Their defense was very messy. The defense needed to be more stable before performing against a strong team. However, given Barcelona's poor performances since last season, it was only natural that they would not qualify for the next round of the Champions League.

I have also predicted that Barcelona will not qualify for the next round in UCL, the club is not good to that extent. Benfica won the club is a chance while Dynamo Kyiv has been so poor. I know Bayern will not mind they have qualified for the next round and mercilessly won Barcelona. This has never happened in many years but happened that Barcelona is finally missing UCL next round. Not only this, also that next year is becoming impossible for Barcelona to be among the clubs that will qualify for Champions League.

Barcelona have played 6 matches in the Champions League and managed to score only 2 goals. They conceded 9 goals. Barcelona scored two goals against Dynamo Kyve. I would say Barcelona have ruined the beauty of the Champions League this season. Hopefully they will prepare themselves better for next season. In particular, if Countinho, Dembele and Depay had performed their duties properly, Barcelona's performance would have been even greater.

It is entirely possible that this is going to be the state of Barcelona for some time, and that is if they do things right, if they fail at the rebuild it is possible Barcelona will remain at its current level for a decade at least as the financial problems they have are enormous, still we must not dwell on the past, Barcelona was a team that sustained a high level of performance for an abnormal amount of time, so lets see what other teams can do and enjoy them as well, after all even if I have a team I support no matter what, at the end of the day I am a fan of soccer more than anything.

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Atalanta is Out from the Cl so now we have odds.

Source: https://twitter.com/2010MisterChip/status/1469033334156242944/photo/1

We will have probably Real Vs Chealse or PSG.

Lets see the variance Cheesy

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Quote from: Slow death on December 09, 2021, 03:46:29 PM

great sadness, man, i thought i would easily win this multi but thanks to atalanta's clowning i lost my multi, i wonder if atalanta will be able to win verona on sunday, because with this problem in the defense and knowing that verona is a A team that scores a lot of goals and plays better than Villareal, so Atalanta could also lose.

I only believed that Atalanta could do it today because they are one of the strongest in Serie A but apparently they were very surprised by Villarreal's quick goal today. Although Atalanta were able to score 2 goals in the remaining matches, Villareal managed to qualify for the next round. 3 Spanish representatives qualified for the round of 16, I think only Real Madrid will last longer in the Champions League than the other 2 teams, namely Villarreal and Atletico Madrid.

Atalanta have ruined your double bet, it's really unpredictable although we know Villareal are not this good in the league. Truly a risky bet on Atalanta vs Villarreal.

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Atalanta - Villarreal

great sadness, man, i thought i would easily win this multi but thanks to atalanta's clowning i lost my multi, i wonder if atalanta will be able to win verona on sunday, because with this problem in the defense and knowing that verona is a A team that scores a lot of goals and plays better than Villareal, so Atalanta could also lose.

Quote from: ReiMomo on December 09, 2021, 01:46:10 PM

What happened to Ronaldo from Man Utd. He was not seen in the match. The match was not much spicy to enjoy but yes the first goal from Greenwood of Man Utd was really unexpected. It just happened at a sudden. A lovely kick on his left leg to the goal. Was really awesome. MATA has a chance to goal but he missed it. Rieder from Young Boys just made use of the opportunity came into, yes Man Utd messed up in passing, but yes Rieder just picked it up and shot to the goal. Was awesome. Both team missed one more chance for scoring a goal each.

the big test for manchester united will be the next premier league game against norwich, i know norwich are a small team and for that reason it will be easier to judge if with this new coach they will be playing well and then we will see if they can go far in the champions league

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Quote from: cryptofrka on December 09, 2021, 02:46:48 PM

Atalanta really trying to turn the game around, it's 2-3 now. Still, it's probably too late for them - they need 2 more goals in less than 10 minutes.

It really surprised me that Villarreal went 3 goals up so easily, but everything they created turned into goals tonight. Still - it's how they play and how they won Europa League last season and Atalanta should have been a bit more careful.

Turned out to be a good game for the neutrals, it will be even better if Atalanta manages to equalize in the next few minutes.

I didnt expect this result honestly since atalanta team has been doing good recently they didnt lose for a long time villareal team is a tough oponent when it comes to european tournaments but considering the oponents on the next round i dont think they can beat any of them accept for lille maybe.

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Atalanta really trying to turn the game around, it's 2-3 now. Still, it's probably too late for them - they need 2 more goals in less than 10 minutes.

It really surprised me that Villarreal went 3 goals up so easily, but everything they created turned into goals tonight. Still - it's how they play and how they won Europa League last season and Atalanta should have been a bit more careful.

Turned out to be a good game for the neutrals, it will be even better if Atalanta manages to equalize in the next few minutes.

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Atalanta 2 - 3 Villarreal
If I were the manager of one of these teams, I would be questioning whether to be happy if my team win or be happier if they lose and try my chance in EL since CL ain't for me honestly with all the monsters qualifying there Roll Eyes

At some point odds of Atalanta were @50 just before they score their second goal, now they are 14.
10 minutes left Lips sealed

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Quote from: judas on December 09, 2021, 02:20:14 PM

Atalanta - Villarreal game is going on very interestingly now. To be honest, I wasn't expecting Villarreal to have a this comfortable game against Atalanta in Italy. Even though the statistics of the teams are similar, Villarreal are 3-0 ahead now. It looks like Atalanta are going to say goodbye. And it is going to be by a big defeat. A team like Atalanta should have played better than this in this critical game.

I thought Atalanta would return in the second half but it seems that Villareal added another goal and Atalanta couldn't return the goal, this deviated slightly from what I predicted, then Atalanta would not be able to equalize it was confirmed that they would not qualify for the last 16.
Maybe Atalanta's efforts in the champions league have ended and will still be continued in the European league matches.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 09, 2021, 01:08:22 PM

Atalanta - Villarreal

2 minutes played and atalanta is losing Shocked

I'm really surprised about Villareal because so far I think their form is mediocre with only 16 points from 15 LaLiga match but the possibility of qualifying for the next round of the Champions League. Atalanta controlled the game but couldn't score, it's crazy that they had to fail like this. Atalanta 0 - 3 Villareal. I have to agree with Villareal even though they looked worse than Barcelona in Laliga.

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