UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 598.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2021, 09:45:48 AM

I didn’t watch the match between Man United and Atalanta but I feel like even if my bet was small I would’ve probably been shouting during the second half. Lol. I mean after feeling all comfy in the first half, thinking it’s already money in my pocket and all. Cheesy

I wonder how much Ronaldo last goal was...

I feel it, man. Nevertheless, Ronaldo did his Ronaldo thing....

2-0 down at half time
3-2 up in the second half!

What a great comeback, coming from two goals down, against Atalanta, isn't easy. They deserved this win, as they fought hard. For me, they used their luck well to win, and I am very happy about that.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2021, 09:45:48 AM

I didn’t watch the match between Man United and Atalanta but I feel like even if my bet was small I would’ve probably been shouting during the second half. Lol. I mean after feeling all comfy in the first half, thinking it’s already money in my pocket and all. Cheesy

I think atalanta's fault was they focused on defending the win. They are too focused on defending. So that Manchester United is more dominant in controlling half the field with continuous attacks. If Atalanta still played like the first half, I think Manchester United will have a hard time chasing goals. In addition, Atalanta were also carried away by Manchester United's game at a fast tempo. If Atalana is able to create their own tempo, maybe 1 point can be brought home.

If you watched the match, Manchester United is dominating the game even since the first half.
It is not because Atalante were too focused on defense but the fact is that Manchester United is controlling the game (ball possession) better than Atalanta.
Second half, Manchester United played even better than the first half although Atalanta also made some great chances to score their 3rd goal but De Gea did his job quite well.
The game shows that United's midfielder are better than Atalanta's in controlling the game.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 21, 2021, 10:22:09 AM

I think atalanta's fault was they focused on defending the win. They are too focused on defending. So that Manchester United is more dominant in controlling half the field with continuous attacks. If Atalanta still played like the first half, I think Manchester United will have a hard time chasing goals. In addition, Atalanta were also carried away by Manchester United's game at a fast tempo. If Atalana is able to create their own tempo, maybe 1 point can be brought home.

Atalanta is an attacking team and their defense is not good. They are naively and think that they can destroy their opponents when they have two goals. Manchester United come back with a good match from their star players. Begin with Bruno's key pass for Rashford with which Rashford scores. Maguire has a shot like a striker, too confident and too accurate. Lastly, the head shot from Ronaldo is magnificent.

Without those star players and their moments, Atalanta has a good match.

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It was really interesting to watch. Atlanta had a good start leading the 1st half scoring 2 goals. Rashford really had chances to shoot 2 goals but he missed it. However, the 2nd half started with his goal. He scored a goal followed by Maguire and then finally Ronaldo has contributed with a goal. Especially the passes were awesome. Ronaldo's goal lead Man Utd win the match. Ola was so exited.

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Man United was quite a tragic win after being 2 goals down but Ronaldo's goal was the winner, and this is full of hope in my bet.

Manchester United's performance today was very good after a series of poor performances. Midfielders in particular have played great. I didn't think they can win this match even after trailing 2-0 in the first half. Ronaldo played very well. With this match, maybe Manchester is back on track. There will be more expectations from them in the upcoming matches.

Manchester United was what ?
Seems like you watched something else, rather than the Manchester United I know.
We played less,was furious during the early hours of the game, we actually don't have a coach at Manchester United, a true Manchester United fan will tell you this.
Ole simply relies on he's player's for too much effort,I'm already anticipating for he's tactics against Liverpool.

I am so shocked on how some fans believe that Manchester united had a better game yesterday. I can not rate their performance. Yes they came back and won the game, but they were very Lucky. With that kind of display, I don’t see them doing anything to Liverpool over the weekend. There is no cohesion between the Defense and Midfield. if only they could start matches like they played in the second half against Atalanta but NO, they love to concede first and chase the game and that doesn't always end well.. why can't the manager let them start the game with same tempo every match as they did in the second half against Atalanta. I pray they don't try that rubbish against Liverpool because they will concede like 7 goals in the process.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2021, 09:45:48 AM

I didn’t watch the match between Man United and Atalanta but I feel like even if my bet was small I would’ve probably been shouting during the second half. Lol. I mean after feeling all comfy in the first half, thinking it’s already money in my pocket and all. Cheesy

I think atalanta's fault was they focused on defending the win. They are too focused on defending. So that Manchester United is more dominant in controlling half the field with continuous attacks. If Atalanta still played like the first half, I think Manchester United will have a hard time chasing goals. In addition, Atalanta were also carried away by Manchester United's game at a fast tempo. If Atalana is able to create their own tempo, maybe 1 point can be brought home.

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2021, 09:45:48 AM

I didn’t watch the match between Man United and Atalanta but I feel like even if my bet was small I would’ve probably been shouting during the second half. Lol. I mean after feeling all comfy in the first half, thinking it’s already money in my pocket and all. Cheesy

The match is not easy for Manchester United and also Atalanta because both teams both want to win. Success in the first half with 2 goals was not able to make Atalanta defend well in the second half so Manchester United managed to change everything to 3-2. I also didn't watch the game because I was too sleepy to wait, but seemed really excited.

Quote from: tokeweed on October 21, 2021, 09:45:48 AM

I wonder how much Ronaldo last goal was...

Ronaldo only scored 1 goal, but it looks like it was enough to ruin your party. Cheesy

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Quote from: Slow death on October 21, 2021, 05:06:47 AM

as well as i already know that manchester united is a team that has created some losses for me in the bets i have made, for yesterday's games i decided to create some countermeasures to avoid these types of situations where manchester united would give me losses
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I won on this bet, and I lost a small amount on the bet I made that atalanta would win

Same here, previously I lost some amount by betting on MU. Yesterday I was in confusion to input them in my multi selection. But I went with the odds and included them. Manchester United was favourite and winning was must needed for them. I was lucky with my 4 team selection. Manchester did a great comeback in the second half.

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I didn’t watch the match between Man United and Atalanta but I feel like even if my bet was small I would’ve probably been shouting during the second half. Lol. I mean after feeling all comfy in the first half, thinking it’s already money in my pocket and all. Cheesy

I wonder how much Ronaldo last goal was...

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Quote from: Joca97 on October 21, 2021, 07:44:09 AM

I won this two bets as well only i had Bayern Munich wins and Over 3.5 goals and im still shocked that i actully won this bet. 70min 0-0 and then 4 goals in the next 15 minutes for Bayern Munich,also Man Utd turning around the entire game what a day for betting and watching football

Bayern's bet is more than 3.5, it was very risky, you were very lucky. I probably would not dare to bet on such an outcome, because Benfica has good defense. And this defense played well for 70 minutes, although Bayern had a lot of dangerous moments and a few goals canceled. Bavaria is now very strong and few people can compete with it. If they manage to keep this form until the end of the season, then they can win this Champions League.

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Quote from: tyz on October 21, 2021, 06:29:44 AM

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In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

In winter, there are few good players to buy or they have to pay really much to get them out of their contract. The most they can do is sign one or two supplementary players for the defense.
But I wonder if that will be enough to play a main role in the CL this year. ManU has had big problems in three consecutive games against second-tier teams at European level. They lost against Young Boys Bern, won against Villareal in the last minute by luck and yesterday against Bergamo they won by luck again. The real tests will come against teams like PSG, ManCity or Bayern.

I will have to disagree about you saying United didn't reinforce the defense last window. They bought Varane. But it is true that they are lacking some good defensive players and depth in the defense. So when either of Varane and Maguire gets injured, they get in trouble. I think they should look for another quality defender. As far as I know, Rudiger's contract is almost finished with Chelsea and he can be a good option for them.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 21, 2021, 05:06:47 AM

as well as i already know that manchester united is a team that has created some losses for me in the bets i have made, for yesterday's games i decided to create some countermeasures to avoid these types of situations where manchester united would give me losses

I won on this bet, and I lost a small amount on the bet I made that atalanta would win

I won this two bets as well only i had Bayern Munich wins and Over 3.5 goals and im still shocked that i actully won this bet. 70min 0-0 and then 4 goals in the next 15 minutes for Bayern Munich,also Man Utd turning around the entire game what a day for betting and watching football

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Quote from: tyz on October 21, 2021, 06:29:44 AM

But I wonder if that will be enough to play a main role in the CL this year. ManU has had big problems in three consecutive games against second-tier teams at European level. They lost against Young Boys Bern, won against Villareal in the last minute by luck and yesterday against Bergamo they won by luck again. The real tests will come against teams like PSG, ManCity or Bayern.

What's important is that their defense is strong if that player is to be dominated in a major role for UCL this year, but I'm sure if Man United have a back-up for the defense then it's quite a relief and they chose to play.
In the play offs, Man United will definitely qualify, they have 6 points, only one more win and that's safe, it's just that after entering this the toughest and the opponents mentioned are the strongest candidates, especially when they meet PSG or Bayern Munich, I don't know how Man United faced this to win.

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After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

How many Defender will a manager to to buy before he can win a silverware for the team. Do you know that Man united defense is very expensive than Leicester city and Arsenal that have won some trophies lately. Should i also talk about Chelsea's defense? They only got Ben Chilwell for 50m last season and Tuchel has managed to win two major trophies. It is not all about getting Defenders and starting them in every game. Do you have the right set up to make them function effective. Do you how much is the whole Man united defense combined? Wan Bissaka was bought for 52m, Harry Maguire was 80m, now Rapheal Varane was 43m. Do you even know what the team has and yet they are conceding goals in almost every game? You do not have to invest more on the defenders again.

The main problem was their injuries and the defensive players are not clicking with each other. Yes, they got one of the best defenders this season - Varane, but he has barely played for them. Moreover, Maguire seems like he's making a lot of mistakes in the defense. United's attack is top-notch with Ronaldo, Cavani, Rashford, and Bruno, the defense is where Ole will need to spend more time. Once the defense is fit and is on form, United will do very well this season. But also congrats to them for winning against Atalanta.

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I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

Manchester United fought well, they were fully determined to win that game, now they are at the top of the table in their group.
Rashford, Maguire and Ronaldo scored....fenandez all was great, he had full impart in the team....he created a lot of chances.

Honestly I will not brag or take it seriously or score them anything till the end of season. They are already out of the FA cup and with the way they played yesterday, I don’t thing they might pass the knock out stage. They have only managed to keep one clean sheet this season, while the other serious Epl title contenders have kept more. I look at the table and shake my head Imagine Brighton topping Manchester United on the table.. He should thank the players, Ronaldo inclusive, for saving his job for now. Because We know that Atalanta themselves are not too good defensively and that gave Manchester United the chances to score three goals. Ole has to improve his tactics and approach, otherwise he will be history at Manchester United.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 21, 2021, 05:45:58 AM

I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

Manchester United fought well, they were fully determined to win that game, now they are at the top of the table in their group.
Rashford, Maguire and Ronaldo scored....fenandez all was great, he had full impart in the team....he created a lot of chances.

A well deserved win for Man United, they struggle a lot in the 2nd half and managed to make a come back with 3 goals. Even though they win it but they need to evaluate the defense as it does not look good. Previously conceded by 4 goals against Leicester and today conceded by 2 goals easily in the first half against Atalanta. It should be improved as soon as possible.

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Quote from: joker_josue on October 21, 2021, 04:29:51 AM

In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

In winter, there are few good players to buy or they have to pay really much to get them out of their contract. The most they can do is sign one or two supplementary players for the defense.
But I wonder if that will be enough to play a main role in the CL this year. ManU has had big problems in three consecutive games against second-tier teams at European level. They lost against Young Boys Bern, won against Villareal in the last minute by luck and yesterday against Bergamo they won by luck again. The real tests will come against teams like PSG, ManCity or Bayern.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on October 21, 2021, 05:45:58 AM

I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

Manchester United fought well, they were fully determined to win that game, now they are at the top of the table in their group.
Rashford, Maguire and Ronaldo scored....fenandez all was great, he had full impart in the team....he created a lot of chances.

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After winning the Champions League match, Manchester United's management does not seem to be dismissing Ole now. Moreover it takes time to work with new teams and new players. Give Ole some more time, he'll be able to take the team to a better position. However, Manchester United's biggest problem at the moment is that their defense is very weak. The defender is able to perform well while playing well against a weak team, the performance against a strong team is poor.

In this last transfer market, Man United clearly doesn't reinforce the defense, which is currently its biggest weakness. I believe they will take advantage of the opening of the market in January, to try to strengthen their defence. Until then you have to be able to hold out as best you can.

How many Defender will a manager to to buy before he can win a silverware for the team. Do you know that Man united defense is very expensive than Leicester city and Arsenal that have won some trophies lately. Should i also talk about Chelsea's defense? They only got Ben Chilwell for 50m last season and Tuchel has managed to win two major trophies. It is not all about getting Defenders and starting them in every game. Do you have the right set up to make them function effective. Do you how much is the whole Man united defense combined? Wan Bissaka was bought for 52m, Harry Maguire was 80m, now Rapheal Varane was 43m. Do you even know what the team has and yet they are conceding goals in almost every game? You do not have to invest more on the defenders again.

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I was surprised yesterday when I saw the betting rates for the Speil Wolfsburg against Salzburg and Salzburg was considered the favorite. The rates have Salzburg impressively confirmed I would not have thought so. In the game Manchester against Bergamo have surprised me the high odds for Manchester, as I expected it was a hard game for Manchester and Ronaldo has saved the 3 points, probably would have gone out in a draw, although you have to say a 2-0 lead away from home you can not give away so easily in the Champions League.

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