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Quote from: hahay on August 18, 2021, 09:41:32 AM

I think lately both teams are on the same level and in fact, these two teams in the Europa League last season were both eliminated in the round of 16. That way, I personally still don't believe Benfica will win in this first leg even though they play at home, maybe to bet I'm a little sure both teams to score @1.8x or over 1.5 goals to 2.5 goals maybe still a good bet and don't take risks too high.

Benfica is under very great internal pressure to enter the Champions League. Last season, they invested a lot and didn't get in, so this season they have to give everything to get in. But it won't be easy.

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Quote from: W Jr. on August 18, 2021, 07:22:38 AM

Shakhtar Donetsk managed to beat Monaco 1-0 in France. To pass the tour one step ahead. Salzburg beat Brondby 2-1 in the match where they were favourites i think. The surprise of the day, I think, was that Sheriff beat Dinamo Zagreb with a clear score of 3-0. Play-off matches continue with three matches tonight.

In fact, Shakhtar's advantage, given the cancellation of the importance of goals scored on a foreign field, is not as obvious as it would be if the previous rules were in effect. In fact, Monaco needs to win with any minimum score and this guarantees a draw. I think no one will be surprised if we see extra time and a penalty shootout in this pair.

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Quote from: Spack17 on August 18, 2021, 08:51:05 AM

Benfica are going to play a home game against PSV in the first leg. These teams both are really qualified. They are one of the best teams of their league. And I can say that Benfica are actually more successful than PSV in European tournaments. So, I think that Benfica will be able to win the first game and capture the advantage before playing in the second leg.

I think lately both teams are on the same level and in fact, these two teams in the Europa League last season were both eliminated in the round of 16. That way, I personally still don't believe Benfica will win in this first leg even though they play at home, maybe to bet I'm a little sure both teams to score @1.8x or over 1.5 goals to 2.5 goals maybe still a good bet and don't take risks too high.

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Benfica are going to play a home game against PSV in the first leg. These teams both are really qualified. They are one of the best teams of their league. And I can say that Benfica are actually more successful than PSV in European tournaments. So, I think that Benfica will be able to win the first game and capture the advantage before playing in the second leg.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on August 17, 2021, 05:55:08 PM

I'm strongly considering to place a max bet on the rematch in Zagreb on both teams to score (odds will probably range between 1.7 to 1.8x).

hmm, i might not max it but i'm willing to place at least 3 units on it if the odds are somewhat decent. They could go as low as 1.5 if everyone expects a high scoring second leg. I'm waiting for more markets to go live, Pinnacle already have Over 2.5 goals at 1.6

Quote from: Trofo on August 17, 2021, 06:03:16 PM

Did not watch any of the games today but really surprised with Dinamo loosing 3:0. Not game over yet, if they managed to turn 2:0 from Spurs they can turn 3:0 from Serif for sure.

yo, i forgot the away goal rule was abolished this season. I was thinking that one goal from Sheriff meant Dinamo had to score 5 to advance to group stage...huh, this changes everything 🤔

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Benfica are a class above PSV... Probably the only reason (apart from the home game) why bookmakers give such odds - Benfica (2.1) PSV (3. Cool

... Although according to the statistics of the last games these teams are almost the same!
Still, I think PSV can win this match! Anyway, odds on a draw or PSV (1. Cool

looks attractive... Wink

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Quote from: Kusman on August 17, 2021, 07:25:29 PM

I must say that Monaco got a really shocking result against Shakhtar Donetsk today. The match was in Monaco but they lost 0-1. I think that they are actually a much better team than Shakhtar. But something must really be going wrong for them lately. They couldn't start the Ligue 1 well either. It looks like they can be eliminated by Shakhtar in the CL if they don't pull themselves together immediately.

As I expected, Shakhtar Donetsk and Red Bull Salzburg won their match. And I won my bet. I agree with you that Monaco is a good team. But their defeat was expected. I have been watching for quite some time, they have no rhythm. I said it would be hard for Dinamo to win the match, but I thought they would be managed to win. But they have been defeated in a very bad way. They lost 3-0. I expected better gameplay from them.

I was also surprised to see that Dinamo Zagreb lost to Sheriff Tiraspol with a score like 3-0 away. They are a much better team than their opponent normally. But I see that their performance was really poor. And now, things are going to be very very difficult for Dinamo. I guess they will be eliminated in this final qualification round.

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PSV Eindhoven did not faced much resistance from Galatasaray and Midtjylland to get to the final stage of the Uefa Champion League qualification round. I think it will be an interesting match between PSV Eindhoven and Benfica today, PSV Eindhoven have scored many goals against Galatasaray and Midtjylland but I think it would not be easy to break down the defense of Benfica when they are playing in their home stadium, I guess this game might ends up with a draw today.

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Quote from: Trofo on August 17, 2021, 06:03:16 PM

By the way did you guys knew that Dinamo player couldn't play today because the did not let him in the country? He is from Kososvo and Moldova does not recognize them as sovereign country. I couldn't believe stuff like this is happening, sports and politics should not mix.

This is why UEFA always moves Ukraine and Russia to separate groups in European nation championships.

Unfortunately, this kind of separation cannot be carried out with league clubs because they take several months to draft, and particularly during a transfer season, the nationality of the registered squad players you have to deal with is unpredictable. Only for the final is the place chosen with meticulous care.

Quote from: LTU_btc on August 18, 2021, 05:36:34 AM

Tonight I'm going with Benfica win. Both teams looking very solid in start of season, but I'm giving advantage to home team.
Malmo - Ludogorets. Here I go with under 2.5 goals @1.70.
Young Boys - Ferencvaros. Young Boys should win, but odds isn't something exciting for it, so I take over 2.5 goals @1.80

I'll take PSV - Malmo - Ferencvaros all to win, thanks

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Quote from: LTU_btc on August 17, 2021, 05:00:46 PM

Wow, Sheriff! 3:0. And Dinamo should be happy that they conceded just 3, Sheriif had plenty of chances to score more. Sorry Croatian folks, but I don't see Dinamo making comeback in 2nd leg.

I don't think so either. 3 goals is a lot to ask for and if they try for it Sheriff can hit back even more. They should be relieved no more away goals though.

Lost many bets last night as I took a lot of specials and boosts from a few sites and both of the bookie favorites I picked in the qualifiers lost. didn't even pick Salzburg as odds were too low.

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Quote from: buwaytress on August 17, 2021, 03:08:48 AM

Brondby 13/1 to win the first half is my pick of the day;)

But Sheriff is a bad team and considering the importance of the game, I feel that Dinamo will want to get a win today.

We all thought Sheriff was the worst team in the round and yet they got the biggest score. Football...

As usual buwaytress made the right call on the big odds of 13x for Brondby half time who were leading 1-0 since 5th minute.

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Shakhtar Donetsk managed to beat Monaco 1-0 in France. To pass the tour one step ahead. Salzburg beat Brondby 2-1 in the match where they were favourites i think. The surprise of the day, I think, was that Sheriff beat Dinamo Zagreb with a clear score of 3-0. Play-off matches continue with three matches tonight.

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Quote from: buwaytress on August 18, 2021, 05:01:32 AM

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Brondby still have a shout... last time they were at Group Stage was in 98/99, before I started watching =)

yeah, on link is an epic one from Ravn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLJnd1kJRss in 98/99, when they won over Bayern at home, scoring in '87 and '89 to win 2:1 in the end, Babbel scored for Bavarians

it was a first round, with Barcelona and Manchester in the group as well
they hold for another round, but third and fourth brought matches with United, and they conceived 11 goals, with 8 different goal-scorers from United, to end up miserably on last place with 5 loses in a row

this could their revival, but I doubt that Salzburg will allow that

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Tonight I'm going with Benfica win. Both teams looking very solid in start of season, but I'm giving advantage to home team.
Malmo - Ludogorets. Here I go with under 2.5 goals @1.70.
Young Boys - Ferencvaros. Young Boys should win, but odds isn't something exciting for it, so I take over 2.5 goals @1.80

Quote from: buwaytress on August 18, 2021, 05:01:32 AM

But yes, I wonder if we might see a surprise contestant for UCL group stages. Shakhtar maybe gaining more experience than I thought from their previous campaign -- improving every time for the past 4 seasons. So time for me not to underestimate them.

Shakhtar failed last season in domestic league ending in 2nd place after dominance in recent years. So, their owner opened his wallet and bought some solid players like Pedrinho, Marlon or Traore. Also, they have new interesting coach De Dzebri who managed Sasuolo last season.

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Politics in football, UEFA and FIFA cherry picking? I'm too old to be surprised anymore, but I hope Dinamo push the issue and reach a form of resolution/compensation. It's really not fair how not all clubs play by the same rules.

But yes, I wonder if we might see a surprise contestant for UCL group stages. Shakhtar maybe gaining more experience than I thought from their previous campaign -- improving every time for the past 4 seasons. So time for me not to underestimate them.

Brondby still have a shout... last time they were at Group Stage was in 98/99, before I started watching =)

Sheriff look like the ones though... this is already their highest achievement in UCL so Group Stage will set their fans alight..!

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seriously tho, i lost a free bet because of them Sad

at least Bayern winning the super cup will soften the blow (i had a betbuilder at 2.5 odds)...And, I agree, game over for Dinamo

Did not watch any of the games today but really surprised with Dinamo loosing 3:0. Not game over yet, if they managed to turn 2:0 from Spurs they can turn 3:0 from Serif for sure. By the way did you guys knew that Dinamo player couldn't play today because the did not let him in the country? He is from Kososvo and Moldova does not recognize them as sovereign country. I couldn't believe stuff like this is happening, sports and politics should not mix.

Funny how we all see matches differently, I was sure Dortmund is winning today and I was sure S. Donetsk is not loosing today. In the end positive 0 for me.

I'm also surprised with such a high defeat of Dinamo.
So far they have had very good and safe performances in Europe and this is an unexpected result.
However, in the past Dinamo had big problems with this opponent in European competitions, although they mostly won in their mutual matches in the past.
Dinamo now needs a miracle in the return match and the match they played against Tottenham happens once in a life time so I'm not optimist.

I don’t know much about that player but UEFA should have tackled this and got the player the permission to play, and I wonder if he played would he have created any major impact on this game. Also 3 goals doesn’t guarantee anything in European football, so their return fixture will be an entertaining one and would be full of goals.

You can read full story here : https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.then24.com/2021/08/13/political-scandal-im-champions-league-playoff/amp/
Personally, I wouldn't say that Kastrati is such an important player for Dinamo but it's really shame that UEFA allowed such political scandal in their competition.
If it was bigger and more important european club, like PSG or Real, UEFA would surely do a lot more so that this situation doesn't happen.
The rules obviously don't apply to everyone equally.

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I wasn't too surprised that Shakhtar could beat Monaco! After all, Shakhtar managed to beat Genk in two games... Monaco played poorly in the home league and lost on home field to underdog Nantes... Shakhtar did well!

Now I look forward to the Benfica vs PSV match! Both clubs should score at least one goal!

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 18, 2021, 02:53:48 AM

I was surprised to see Monaco lose the game.
I wasn't expecting Dinamo to lose either, on top of that by 3-0. The Sheriff should have his entry into the Champions almost guaranteed.

Soccer comes with surprises even after each prediction I still cross my mind believing what will be will definitely be. It was a big blast for sheriff their game was a bit impressive.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 17, 2021, 11:33:49 AM

My guess is that Dinamo Zagreb, Shakhtar Donetsk and Red Bull will win today. Although Monaco is not a bad team, Shakhtar is more stable than them. Salzburg's opponents on the other hand are easy. Hope for an easy win for Salzburg. However, winning Dinamo Zagreb's match today will be a bit difficult. Dinamo would be wrong to think the Sheriff Tiraspol team is an easy team.

Dynamo Zagreb received three goals from the Sheriff and failed to score a single goal in return. This is a very unexpected result. Perhaps the Sheriff has become much stronger than he was once. The team that beats such strong teams as Crvena Zvezda and Dynamo Zagreb, one after another, deserves attention. And the fact that Crvena Zvezda beat Cluj 4-0 shows that it is still a good team, but it looks like Sheriff is stronger now.

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Quote from: tomahawk9 on August 17, 2021, 05:26:49 PM

seriously tho, i lost a free bet because of them Sad

at least Bayern winning the super cup will soften the blow (i had a betbuilder at 2.5 odds)...And, I agree, game over for Dinamo

Did not watch any of the games today but really surprised with Dinamo loosing 3:0. Not game over yet, if they managed to turn 2:0 from Spurs they can turn 3:0 from Serif for sure. By the way did you guys knew that Dinamo player couldn't play today because the did not let him in the country? He is from Kososvo and Moldova does not recognize them as sovereign country. I couldn't believe stuff like this is happening, sports and politics should not mix.

Funny how we all see matches differently, I was sure Dortmund is winning today and I was sure S. Donetsk is not loosing today. In the end positive 0 for me.

I'm also surprised with such a high defeat of Dinamo.
So far they have had very good and safe performances in Europe and this is an unexpected result.
However, in the past Dinamo had big problems with this opponent in European competitions, although they mostly won in their mutual matches in the past.
Dinamo now needs a miracle in the return match and the match they played against Tottenham happens once in a life time so I'm not optimist.

I don’t know much about that player but UEFA should have tackled this and got the player the permission to play, and I wonder if he played would he have created any major impact on this game. Also 3 goals doesn’t guarantee anything in European football, so their return fixture will be an entertaining one and would be full of goals.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 18, 2021, 02:53:48 AM

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I was surprised to see Monaco lose the game.
I wasn't expecting Dinamo to lose either, on top of that by 3-0. The Sheriff should have his entry into the Champions almost guaranteed.

I guess everyone is surprised with such result from Dinamo games. A final score of a draw or one of them winning with a 1 goal difference was the suitable result but receiving 3 goals is very disappointing. Good luck for Dinamo in the second leg, they will have a hard time passing this stage..
Benfica vs PSV today and Benfica seems to be the most favourite for bookies.

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