Dinamo is favorites against Sheriff, but same we said about Crvena Zvezda in previous round and they got eliminated. So, Sheriff is dangerous team. Still, I put bet on Zagreb, but not much money.
Monaco is favoured by bookmakers, but I think their advantage isn't such obvious. I expect minimal their win today and very interesting 2nd leg game.
Leipzig shouldn't have any problems against Brondy. I expect to solve all problems in 1st leg already. But I haven't found valuable bet for this game yet. Any ideas?
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Shakhtar are a good club, but I think Monaco are on a higher level... I think Monaco will win the home game, but most likely Shakhtar can score!
Another interesting match is Benfica vs PSV... That's where both teams will score for sure! I was watching the Super Cup match Ajax vs PSV... PSV scored 4 unanswered goals! PSV often score a lot... They might even win!
PSV approached the start of the season in very good shape, scores a lot, and at the same time is well defended. The match is difficult for betting, but I would consider for a PSV bet with a handicap of +1 goal. The coefficient is not large, but with a good safety net. I think PSV will not lose today.Another interesting match is Benfica vs PSV... That's where both teams will score for sure! I was watching the Super Cup match Ajax vs PSV... PSV scored 4 unanswered goals! PSV often score a lot... They might even win!
Shakhtar has a very strong opponent today, I don't know if he can pass it, but I agree with you, they have to score a goal, the team's attack is excellent.
For today's matches, I think the victory will smile for Monaco, Dinamo and RB Salzburg. They look like the best teams to me. I don't see that they are games with many goals. But maybe everyone will be able to score 2 goals.
Right then. We have some pretty good matches, at least on paper. Monaco are in some sort of revival hopefully, and their loss in Ligue 1 maybe means they're distracted but that's a good thing for me. 17/10 are good odds for me, and if parlay that with Dinamo Zagreb should make sense for 33/10.
Brondby 13/1 to win the first half is my pick of the day;)
Brondby 13/1 to win the first half is my pick of the day;)
In my opinion, Dinamo is a strong favorite. They might play the 1st game a bit more conservatively though, but still - I'll take these odds.
They weren't really good in their last Euro game, you could see some tiredness in the 2nd period. But Sheriff is a bad team and considering the importance of the game, I feel that Dinamo will want to get a win today.
Football-wise, Monaco-Shakhtar will be the best game today. I have a feeling we'll see a lot of goals there.
There are already a few top-class games today,
There are already a few top-class games today,
Monaco against Donetsk is probably the most competitive match today, but tomorrow also PSV against Benfica will be very interesting. As an Austrian, I'm rooting for RB Salzburg even though I'm not really a fan of Salzburg, but it would be important points for the 5-year ranking. For the Champions League group stage there are bonus points.
There are already a few top-class games today,
Monaco against Donetsk is probably the most competitive match today, but tomorrow also PSV against Benfica will be very interesting. As an Austrian, I'm rooting for RB Salzburg even though I'm not really a fan of Salzburg, but it would be important points for the 5-year ranking. For the Champions League group stage there are bonus points.
Right then. We have some pretty good matches, at least on paper. Monaco are in some sort of revival hopefully, and their loss in Ligue 1 maybe means they're distracted but that's a good thing for me. 17/10 are good odds for me, and if parlay that with Dinamo Zagreb should make sense for 33/10.
Brondby 13/1 to win the first half is my pick of the day;)
Brondby 13/1 to win the first half is my pick of the day;)
Shakhtar are a good club, but I think Monaco are on a higher level... I think Monaco will win the home game, but most likely Shakhtar can score!
Another interesting match is Benfica vs PSV... That's where both teams will score for sure! I was watching the Super Cup match Ajax vs PSV... PSV scored 4 unanswered goals! PSV often score a lot... They might even win!
Another interesting match is Benfica vs PSV... That's where both teams will score for sure! I was watching the Super Cup match Ajax vs PSV... PSV scored 4 unanswered goals! PSV often score a lot... They might even win!
In the two most interesting pairs, the odds from the bookmakers at the moment are as follows:
Monaco - Shakhtar
1.67 - 3.95 - 4.8
Benfica - PSV
2.19 - 3.45 - 3.2
For me personally, it’s surprising that Shakhtar is rated so poorly, and PSV, even when playing away, is estimated quite strongly and it seems that, depending on the first match, PSV may even become a favorite when playing at home.
Monaco - Shakhtar
1.67 - 3.95 - 4.8
Benfica - PSV
2.19 - 3.45 - 3.2
For me personally, it’s surprising that Shakhtar is rated so poorly, and PSV, even when playing away, is estimated quite strongly and it seems that, depending on the first match, PSV may even become a favorite when playing at home.
PSV and Benfica are clearly evenly matched. A few years ago Benfica was much stronger than PSV, but now it seems to be going the other way. It is a pity that they lost Dumfries to Inter Milan yesterday. That's the difference between going on and losing in these kinds of matches.
In the two most interesting pairs, the odds from the bookmakers at the moment are as follows:
Monaco - Shakhtar
1.67 - 3.95 - 4.8
Benfica - PSV
2.19 - 3.45 - 3.2
For me personally, it’s surprising that Shakhtar is rated so poorly, and PSV, even when playing away, is estimated quite strongly and it seems that, depending on the first match, PSV may even become a favorite when playing at home.
Monaco - Shakhtar
1.67 - 3.95 - 4.8
Benfica - PSV
2.19 - 3.45 - 3.2
For me personally, it’s surprising that Shakhtar is rated so poorly, and PSV, even when playing away, is estimated quite strongly and it seems that, depending on the first match, PSV may even become a favorite when playing at home.
Next week the first round of the Playoffs beginning.
Maybe 1 or 2 pots left. But I'm not sure which team, when I see on wikipedia there is pot 3 and 4 going to filling up. there are fixed up Pot 1 and 2.I have seen Champions League have positional award nominees
Goalkeepers: Thibaut Courtois (Real Madrid), Ederson (Manchester City), Edouard Mendy (Chelsea)
Defenders: César Azpilicueta (Chelsea), Rúben Dias (Manchester City), Antonio Rüdiger (Chelsea)
Midfielders: Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City), Jorginho (Chelsea), N'Golo Kanté (Chelsea)
Forwards: Erling Haaland (Dortmund), Robert Lewandowski (Bayern), Kylian Mbappé (Paris)
in the last year (2019-2020) award players give to
Goalkeeper: Manuel Neuer
Defender: Joshua Kimmich
Midfielder: Kevin De Bruyne
Forward: Robert Lewandowski
I have my choice player reward champions league for this year:
Goalkeepers: Edouard Mendy (Chelsea)
Defenders: César Azpilicueta (Chelsea)
Midfielders: N'Golo Kanté (Chelsea)
Forwards: Erling Haaland (Dortmund)
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@joker_josue, the path of his national team is quite different from Barcelona, and his performance when he played for his country show Messi to be a play that will perform well in any giving circumstance but you make a point that he still needs to show out himself because this is the first time he will play for another football club which is not Barcelona.
I understand what you mean. But I don't think he had a great performance, in general, in the Argentina national team. I don't say it lacks quality! He is a great player! But what helped his performance a lot was his way of playing for Barcelona. Going to another club will force him to adapt to other ways of playing as well, and I think it will be good for us to see his performance in this new scenario.
Everyone is waiting to see how Messi performs with a new squad. Messi has been at Camp Nou since the beginning of his career. So he has been able to adapt easily to everyone in the Barcelona team. But now the situation is a bit different. He has to play with many new players now. Although everyone on the team is talented. I don't think it will take long for Messi to adapt to them.
I will like to see him another form of playing but let's wait and see what PSG is planning first.
@LittleBitFunny, thats my impression either, and what I think is the problem now is the rumors about Mbappe feeling toward Messi we are yet to know if it is true but Mbappe shows rumors are false though.
The final round in the playoffs is active. The first games are going to be played on this Tuesday and Wednesday. The games that have attracted my attention are:
Monaco - Shakhtar Donetsk
Benfica - PSV
In both of these games, each team are really powerful. Considering the first game, Monaco seem to be closer to a win. Actually they didn't start the Ligue 1 very good by not being able to win any of the 2 games. But they are still a strong team. I think they can benefit from playing home.
When it comes to the second game, I think that Benfica are one step ahead. PSV also have qualified attacking players but their job won't be easy in this away game.
Monaco - Shakhtar Donetsk
Benfica - PSV
In both of these games, each team are really powerful. Considering the first game, Monaco seem to be closer to a win. Actually they didn't start the Ligue 1 very good by not being able to win any of the 2 games. But they are still a strong team. I think they can benefit from playing home.
When it comes to the second game, I think that Benfica are one step ahead. PSV also have qualified attacking players but their job won't be easy in this away game.
I also find the match between PSV and Benfica very interesting. Those are two teams that are evenly matched. There are also teams in the last round that make you wonder if they are worthy to play in the main tournament. But the cash register does ring well.
That match will be really intresting to watch. Two hardcore teams and top of their league every year playing. But as far as i watched and analysed PSV i think they will be in advantage in this duel. If Zahavi plays like he does i think they have a lock win. They already destroyed Galatasaray
Hahaha, It's really funny. But now we can’t take the PSG team lightly. They have one of the best players in the world in their team. Ramos is one of the best players in the world in defending. Messi is the dribbling master at the forward, moreover, there is no other player with such great speed as Mbappe. One of the best goalkeepers Donnarumma is in their squad. PSG will be a little ahead of Manchester City in terms of players. But City is in charge of Guardiola. He can turn the game around at any time.
Never have, I always think they'll go far, but fall short -- sort of like City. Slick as you like, bursting with talent, but you question their ability to dig in, and it's hard to be hungrier than the underdogs once you reach the final. Real is probably one of the few teams capable of that feat and that's down to Zidane having his team at his feet.
PSG-City final on the cards? Cept I got Liverpool to win it at almost 9/1 ha ha.
With players like Neymar, Mbappé and the campaign, PSG will definitely be the Champions League favorite, their only problem is that the domestic championship does not allow maintaining a high level of players' motivation due to its weakness.
It is very good that there is always a high level of randomness in the playoffs and that other teams always have the opportunity to beat the money bag
It is very good that there is always a high level of randomness in the playoffs and that other teams always have the opportunity to beat the money bag
No one enjoys it like I do. Almost every 10/1 or more game in UCL is a must-bet for me;)
Indeed, very true comparison between City and PSG, go far and fall short. That is what would be so exciting if indeed both teams would face each other in a Champions League. One thing would be certain even before the game would have started: there'd be much more trauma to come for one of the two!
But Messi facing Pep and all the superstars in both squads, that would be a final worth every single second of the 90 minutes watching the game. I think that Messi will have one of his stronger seasons of his career in the coming year. Ligue 1 won't motivate him much although he will deliver, but in the CL I can see him go nuts once more as if he had to prove something bigger one more time.
I also would like to add that Poch has a huge task at his hand with this randomly assembled squad, hence I don’t expect PSG to win Champions League because they barely had any time to integrate all player’s. Furthermore while these are superstars, but the bigger superstar bigger their ego, so Poch will have a hard time managing their fragile egos.
While your statement is correct that it is an unexperienced squad in regards to their time spent on the pitch together, all the players they now signed are extremely experienced and established. They players like Mbappe, Neymar and Messi won't need three years until they understand each other. They will function from the first minute. It is a bit similar to national teams meeting for big tournaments, where the best of the best play with each other as if they had been together in the same club for a decade. If Pochettino seriously starts crying now about the fact that he needs time and it is new team, I wouldn't take that guy seriously anymore. He has to deliver. That doesn't mean he has to win the CL title because there is also luck involved, but if that team performs bad he just failed.
I also find the match between PSV and Benfica very interesting. Those are two teams that are evenly matched. There are also teams in the last round that make you wonder if they are worthy to play in the main tournament. But the cash register does ring well.
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@joker_josue, the path of his national team is quite different from Barcelona, and his performance when he played for his country show Messi to be a play that will perform well in any giving circumstance but you make a point that he still needs to show out himself because this is the first time he will play for another football club which is not Barcelona.
I understand what you mean. But I don't think he had a great performance, in general, in the Argentina national team. I don't say it lacks quality! He is a great player! But what helped his performance a lot was his way of playing for Barcelona. Going to another club will force him to adapt to other ways of playing as well, and I think it will be good for us to see his performance in this new scenario.
Everyone is waiting to see how Messi performs with a new squad. Messi has been at Camp Nou since the beginning of his career. So he has been able to adapt easily to everyone in the Barcelona team. But now the situation is a bit different. He has to play with many new players now. Although everyone on the team is talented. I don't think it will take long for Messi to adapt to them.
@joker_josue, the path of his national team is quite different from Barcelona, and his performance when he played for his country show Messi to be a play that will perform well in any giving circumstance but you make a point that he still needs to show out himself because this is the first time he will play for another football club which is not Barcelona.
I understand what you mean. But I don't think he had a great performance, in general, in the Argentina national team. I don't say it lacks quality! He is a great player! But what helped his performance a lot was his way of playing for Barcelona. Going to another club will force him to adapt to other ways of playing as well, and I think it will be good for us to see his performance in this new scenario.
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Yes, Messi doesn't need to prove anything to someone for his previous record and knowledge of playing on the pitch speak louder than him proving himself but with people like Neymar whos his friend, and Di Maria whos his National (Argentine) teammate, Messi will easily adapt to the PSG city.
With Lionel Messi, Neymar, and Kylian Mbappe in the front I see PSG as the most competitive team and it will be bloody if they face the City in the Champions league.
With Lionel Messi, Neymar, and Kylian Mbappe in the front I see PSG as the most competitive team and it will be bloody if they face the City in the Champions league.
I actually think he needs to show that he is capable of performing at the same level at other clubs, outside of Barcelona.
Barcelona has built over the last few years a team around Messi, adapted to his style of play and qualities. I don't think that's wrong, but going to another club that wasn't planned that way is a totally different and new challenge.
Of course he doesn't have to prove he's a great player! But he has to prove that he is able to be winning at other clubs.
He should have gone to a top club in Europe to test his abilities. He could have gone to the Premier League. Ligue 1 is the fifth league in Europe. There is no good team here except PSG. Only PSG reigns in this league. Moreover, the PSG team is not entirely new to Messi. Messi has played with Neymar, Di Maria and Icardi before.
@Iranus, Messi exit from Barca happened so fast, he needed to join a club before the season starts and if you follow his transfer deal all the major club in Europe that ought to buy him have already spent a lot in buying players but Arsenal that wants to buy him seems not to be serious about it.
The rule (or rather a statistical observation) is that the team that strikes first in the penalty shootout has a greater chance of winning than the opponent. And by the way, Italy was the first in the penalty shootout. In principle, this is easy to explain - the team that kicks the first one always goes one move ahead, and the second team catches up, so the first team has the right to make one mistake.
Ah okay, so it's just a statistics thing but yeah, who wouldn't want to be the one having a perfect streak in penalties right? Yet we have also to look at the whole picture. If you put your best 3 in first, maybe the pressure is bigger on the weaker ones. Maybe better to give the weaker ones FIRST and let the 3 best takers at the end who may not be as affected by pressure?
These are not just statistics. This is a statistic that follows from the pattern - the one who starts the penalty shootout has the advantage.
I think that putting weaker players in the beginning is a bad idea, since there is a possibility that the turn of the stronger players will not come as the penalty shootout will already be lost. In addition, misses and catch-up position are demoralizing even for strong players.
Not sure what you mean by this rule? If you have a streak of penalties you have a better chance of winning the shootout you mean? Didn't this also happen in the last EUROs though?
The rule (or rather a statistical observation) is that the team that strikes first in the penalty shootout has a greater chance of winning than the opponent. And by the way, Italy was the first in the penalty shootout. In principle, this is easy to explain - the team that kicks the first one always goes one move ahead, and the second team catches up, so the first team has the right to make one mistake.
Ah okay, so it's just a statistics thing but yeah, who wouldn't want to be the one having a perfect streak in penalties right? Yet we have also to look at the whole picture. If you put your best 3 in first, maybe the pressure is bigger on the weaker ones. Maybe better to give the weaker ones FIRST and let the 3 best takers at the end who may not be as affected by pressure?
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