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Quote from: DeathAngel on March 22, 2021, 01:37:26 PM

Man City are favourites but it is by no means a foregone conclusion.

Don't bet on teams solely on the basis of "odds to win CL" alone because they only take into account current standings, if you use it as an "odds of getting eliminated" sheet you're going to make a lot of bad bets eg. on Juventus or Sevilla.

I'd always say, the level of performance of teams at UCL games is somewhat different from regular season. So a bet on odds to win CL is as risky as possible (💯), its a pure game of chance.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on March 23, 2021, 09:32:19 AM

For me personally chealsea is the 90/10 favorite in this match up maybe a few weeks ago before tuchel came it would have been closer but since tuchel took the lead of chelsea they managed to be unbeaten in 14 games in a row whichis pretty impressive.
Chelsea has the stronger individual players and now they also have momentum and are in great shape too, that's why i am pretty sure that chelsea will advance into the next round.

I have the same idea.
But despite Porto in internal competitions, it hasn't been doing good games, but in the Champions it has been very constant (with luck the mixture).

Not only you... Chelsea are playing very well, this is undeniable.

However, we know that nothing lasts forever, and looking at other teams that are qualifying, I see that Chelsea's unbeaten run could fall at any moment.

I would be careful when betting on Chelsea against Bayern or City... based on past games, I believe that both have a lot of potentials to do a victory over Chelsea.

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Tuchel has indeed made a difference to Chelsea, I also feel Chelsea can be a strong candidate to advance to the next round. However, FC Porto also an opponent that Chelsea cannot underestimate. They have good performances in the local league and currently in the #2 position, Oliveira, Taremi are the two Porto players who entered as the top goalscorers in the premiera league, Portugal. If these two players are played, then Chelsea must be able to prevent them from entering the defense zone as well as possible.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on March 23, 2021, 09:32:19 AM

For me personally chealsea is the 90/10 favorite in this match up maybe a few weeks ago before tuchel came it would have been closer but since tuchel took the lead of chelsea they managed to be unbeaten in 14 games in a row whichis pretty impressive.
Chelsea has the stronger individual players and now they also have momentum and are in great shape too, that's why i am pretty sure that chelsea will advance into the next round.

I have the same idea.
But despite Porto in internal competitions, it hasn't been doing good games, but in the Champions it has been very constant (with luck the mixture).

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Quote from: joker_josue on March 23, 2021, 09:22:25 AM

Who think they will win FC Porto vs Chelsea FC?

Personally, although Chelsea is theoretically stronger, it is an accessible adeversary for Porto to have the possibility of overtaking.

For me personally chealsea is the 90/10 favorite in this match up maybe a few weeks ago before tuchel came it would have been closer but since tuchel took the lead of chelsea they managed to be unbeaten in 14 games in a row whichis pretty impressive.
Chelsea has the stronger individual players and now they also have momentum and are in great shape too, that's why i am pretty sure that chelsea will advance into the next round.

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Who think they will win FC Porto vs Chelsea FC?

Personally, although Chelsea is theoretically stronger, it is an accessible adeversary for Porto to have the possibility of overtaking.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 22, 2021, 07:16:10 PM

Quote from: hahay on March 22, 2021, 04:48:39 PM

I personally don't see any chance for Madrid and Liverpool to play in the final

That's your personal opinion only, but in fact no one knows what will happen in the future. Sure, Real Madrid or Liverpool has a chance for the final because it is always possible for a surprise happened in the football competition. Especially for Real Madrid, they have won many times in UEFA Champions League, they must be familiar and know well how to play effectively in this competition. Moreover, now Real Madrid is getting better in its performance since Sergio Ramos and other key players come back from injury.

Ramos got injured again a few days ago and the return date is unknown. But still Real Madrid have Benzema who is very important and vital for scoring goals. They are depending too much on him and having problems in the absence of him. Liverpool also have some missing players and the absence of van Dijk has weakened the defense. But still, I see Liverpool's lineup as better than Real's now. However, it won't be easy for any side to advance to the semi finals. My favourite team for this draw are Liverpool.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 23, 2021, 05:48:14 AM

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on March 23, 2021, 12:42:58 AM

Liverpool are not seeded against Real Madrid in the quarter-final this time. They are weak and very easy to beat by other weak team in the league. They were lucky enough to qualify for the quarter-final, but I think the meeting with Real Madrid at this stage is the end of Liverpool's journey in the Champions League this season. Sorry about that, but I think Real Madrid are the team that will qualify for the next stage.

I think Real Madrid has come this far in the Champions League because their defense is much stronger than their opponents. If you look at the Champions League matches, you can see that the opponents of Real Madrid have not been able to score too many goals against Real Madrid. If Liverpool can find the weak point of Madrid's defense then they can easily win the match. Liverpool's forward lineup is more stable than Real Madrid's forward lineup.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on March 23, 2021, 12:42:58 AM

Liverpool are not seeded against Real Madrid in the quarter-final this time. They are weak and very easy to beat by other weak team in the league. They were lucky enough to qualify for the quarter-final, but I think the meeting with Real Madrid at this stage is the end of Liverpool's journey in the Champions League this season. Sorry about that, but I think Real Madrid are the team that will qualify for the next stage.

I think Real Madrid has come this far in the Champions League because their defense is much stronger than their opponents. If you look at the Champions League matches, you can see that the opponents of Real Madrid have not been able to score too many goals against Real Madrid. If Liverpool can find the weak point of Madrid's defense then they can easily win the match. Liverpool's forward lineup is more stable than Real Madrid's forward lineup.

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Quote from: Strongkored on March 22, 2021, 11:02:04 PM

So the key to a good performance from the team is when the key players return to play after suffering an injury,

It's true, there are big team in different league that don't do well when they lose key players through injury. Liverpool, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Juventus, Barcelona are some example of team that experience many unsatisfactory result when they don't have key players in the team. That's why they need them in the team because I think they are the heart of the team game.

Liverpool are not seeded against Real Madrid in the quarter-final this time. They are weak and very easy to beat by other weak team in the league. They were lucky enough to qualify for the quarter-final, but I think the meeting with Real Madrid at this stage is the end of Liverpool's journey in the Champions League this season. Sorry about that, but I think Real Madrid are the team that will qualify for the next stage.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on March 22, 2021, 07:16:10 PM

-snip-now Real Madrid is getting better in its performance since Sergio Ramos and other key players come back from injury.

So the key to a good performance from the team is when the key players return to play after suffering an injury, but unfortunately Liverpool key defensive player will not play for the CL and another competition match. LFC still have a chance advanceto the semifinals although it is difficult to happen. This is the last prestigious competition in which they are still playing, while in the local league it is impossible for them to become champions even they are still struggling to reach 4 ranks in standings.

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Quote from: hahay on March 22, 2021, 04:48:39 PM

Quote from: kassex on March 22, 2021, 03:30:53 PM

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I personally don't see any chance for Madrid and Liverpool to play in the final, because for this part I am very confident about Chelsea. In addition, the Bayern - PSG match is a match worthy of being called a final because until now I still can't predict it, but if I look at the odds at the moment Bayern are the favorites. For Madrid - Liverpool both have the same chance and the match in this quarter-final is an interesting match because it is still unpredictable, it means that the team that is not favored still has a chance to win.

I can understand why you doubt that Real Madrid and Liverpool will play in the final, because it has seen the two teams' performance have decreased
significantly this year. Chelsea can be a dark horse in my opinion in the Champions League, because their performance has improved since Tuchel
replaced Lampard. Moreover, Tuchel has a pretty good experience with PSG in the Champions League, allowing Chelsea to advance to the final.
To win the Champions League this season I agree that Bayern's chances are the greatest compared to other teams, That's why Bayern are still
my favorites to win the Champions League this year.

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Quote from: hahay on March 22, 2021, 04:48:39 PM

I personally don't see any chance for Madrid and Liverpool to play in the final

That's your personal opinion only, but in fact no one knows what will happen in the future. Sure, Real Madrid or Liverpool has a chance for the final because it is always possible for a surprise happened in the football competition. Especially for Real Madrid, they have won many times in UEFA Champions League, they must be familiar and know well how to play effectively in this competition. Moreover, now Real Madrid is getting better in its performance since Sergio Ramos and other key players come back from injury.

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Quote from: kassex on March 22, 2021, 03:30:53 PM

The best semi-final will be Manchester City - Bayern Munich. This match would be worthy of the final. But it will be nice if Bayern - Liverpool, or Bayern - Real Madrid meet in the Champions League final. I think other teams will leave the race during the tournament.

I personally don't see any chance for Madrid and Liverpool to play in the final, because for this part I am very confident about Chelsea. In addition, the Bayern - PSG match is a match worthy of being called a final because until now I still can't predict it, but if I look at the odds at the moment Bayern are the favorites. For Madrid - Liverpool both have the same chance and the match in this quarter-final is an interesting match because it is still unpredictable, it means that the team that is not favored still has a chance to win.

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Quote from: acquafredda on March 22, 2021, 03:43:16 PM

So far my best player in this Champions League has been Kylian Mbappé, no doubt. 1998 was a great year for France: they won the World Cup in Paris and their new football phenomenon was born that year. He is such an amazing player and seeing play is very entertaining. Will he be able to lead his team to the final? I guess so.

There is no doubt that he is a very special player and showing a very nice performance in the Champions League also. He has 6 goals and 3 assists in 7 games in the CL. At such a young age, it is really hard for any player to carry his team. He really proves his quality in every games and we can clearly see that he is also performing superbly in the Ligue 1. But it is very doubtful whether his team will manage to get to the final. Because they are going to compete against Bayern first and City after it (most probably). Their job is too hard.

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I agreed Man City are favorite and also lucky either to face an easy opponent in the quarter final of this year Champ league

Meanwhile, this is an advantage for Manchester City. But for me every match now is going to be tighter because everything is very close to the Final and that is the target of all the team. There are no easy match, but maybe the result will be easy to predict, like Manchester City vs Dortmund and Bayern Muenchen vs PSG.

However, I want Manchester City to qualify for the semifinal and do their best there before reaching the Final. Whoever the opponent is now, it's never easy.

You said it yourself that there are no easy match now and I believe every team will be careful but if you consider the remain game not to be easy why is it easy to predicted?
The last time I checked, Bayern and PSG game is also not easy to predict because they are currently like a rival if you remember they both played last year final.

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So far my best player in this Champions League has been Kylian Mbappé, no doubt. 1998 was a great year for France: they won the World Cup in Paris and their new football phenomenon was born that year. He is such an amazing player and seeing play is very entertaining. Will he be able to lead his team to the final? I guess so.

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The best semi-final will be Manchester City - Bayern Munich. This match would be worthy of the final. But it will be nice if Bayern - Liverpool, or Bayern - Real Madrid meet in the Champions League final. I think other teams will leave the race during the tournament.

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Quote from: hulla on March 22, 2021, 02:25:07 PM

I agreed Man City are favorite and also lucky either to face an easy opponent in the quarter final of this year Champ league

Meanwhile, this is an advantage for Manchester City. But for me every match now is going to be tighter because everything is very close to the Final and that is the target of all the team. There are no easy match, but maybe the result will be easy to predict, like Manchester City vs Dortmund and Bayern Muenchen vs PSG.

However, I want Manchester City to qualify for the semifinal and do their best there before reaching the Final. Whoever the opponent is now, it's never easy.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on March 22, 2021, 01:37:26 PM

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Quote from: codegnome on March 22, 2021, 09:25:15 AM

....Real Madrid - Liverpool would also e a very nice semi final by the way.

That won't happen since they will are facing each other in the quarter-finals. Did you miss that? The winner will play either Chelsea or Porto in the semi-finals.

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I prefer to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid. Madrid is a team that really can beat City.

Man City will be playing against PSG or Bayern if they win against Dortmund. Either of the two can handle and beat City.

I’m not convinced Man City will get past Dortmund. They have form for choking in the CL, they have 0 CL titles in their history. Pep hasn’t won the CL since he was at Barcelona too. Man City are favourites but it is by no means a foregone conclusion.

I agreed Man City are favorite and also lucky either to face an easy opponent in the quarter final of this year Champ league but football can be hard predicted sometime and I think Porto winning over Cristiano Ronaldo in the last 16 games should be a lesson but the first leg game will show us how Man City are serious about going to the next level.

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