UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 800.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on March 22, 2021, 12:37:26 PM

Man City are favourites but it is by no means a foregone conclusion.

Don't bet on teams solely on the basis of "odds to win CL" alone because they only take into account current standings, if you use it as an "odds of getting eliminated" sheet you're going to make a lot of bad bets eg. on Juventus or Sevilla.

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Quote from: Yogee on March 22, 2021, 11:49:50 AM

Quote from: codegnome on March 22, 2021, 08:25:15 AM

....Real Madrid - Liverpool would also e a very nice semi final by the way.

That won't happen since they will are facing each other in the quarter-finals. Did you miss that? The winner will play either Chelsea or Porto in the semi-finals.

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I prefer to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid. Madrid is a team that really can beat City.

Man City will be playing against PSG or Bayern if they win against Dortmund. Either of the two can handle and beat City.

I’m not convinced Man City will get past Dortmund. They have form for choking in the CL, they have 0 CL titles in their history. Pep hasn’t won the CL since he was at Barcelona too. Man City are favourites but it is by no means a foregone conclusion.

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Quote from: Spack17 on March 22, 2021, 03:55:47 AM

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

This could not be an easy draw as it seems. Dortmund have a really powerful card, Haaland. Grin

We have seen how great he played against Sevilla in the last round. He is in-form and will be a big threat for City. But still the favorite is City of course.

Haaland is good but Dortmund is so bad that even when Halaand scores 2 goals against a weak opponent, Dortmund manages to get scored twice to lose. Team is getting angry as well and even though they are wrong about it, they are still doing it, what they are getting angry at? Halaand? What? Because, team plays horrible and Halaand scores and they still end up with a tie or a loss and all fans get mad at others and praise Halaand so other players hate him for being so much better than him and getting all the blame while he is praised, fans are right but players are human too so they get jealous basically. Hence Dortmund will lose FOR SURE.

I agree with almost all the other ones, I think Chelsea will not have as much trouble as we might imagine, but it is Porto so we do not know, but if I had to bet on a game I would say Chelsea for that game for sure, rest are exactly how you said it.

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Quote from: codegnome on March 22, 2021, 08:25:15 AM

....Real Madrid - Liverpool would also e a very nice semi final by the way.

That won't happen since they will are facing each other in the quarter-finals. Did you miss that? The winner will play either Chelsea or Porto in the semi-finals.

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I prefer to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid. Madrid is a team that really can beat City.

Man City will be playing against PSG or Bayern if they win against Dortmund. Either of the two can handle and beat City.

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Quote from: codegnome on March 22, 2021, 08:25:15 AM

There are still plenty of possibilities for possible finals. Real Madrid - Liverpool would also e a very nice semi final by the way.
I prefer to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid. Madrid is a team that really can beat City.

Yes, you mention it exactly right. They can beat anyone, but in this field they can also lose against everyone.
All eyes are on PSG - Munich for sure. And we also should not underestimate Chelsea, as they draw Porto, that is the perfect draw for them to advance.
Porto would have the same thoughts.

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There are still plenty of possibilities for possible finals. Real Madrid - Liverpool would also e a very nice semi final by the way.
I prefer to see Manchester City vs Real Madrid. Madrid is a team that really can beat City.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 20, 2021, 06:15:17 PM

Soo why Liverpool is so bad this year, what is the real problem?
Why from 20 points of advantage in the previous league they are now doing so badly?

Is the magic over?

Haha. No, we didn't do or use any magic during our prolific Champions league and Premier League title races. What happened was that we had a couple of injury crisis at the time of the season that messed up our team. It got to a point where we didn't have confidence in our defense as Klopp kept rotating between Fabinho, Henderson, Philips and others every once in a while. Aside from our Premier league and anfield nightmare, we have done really good in the Champions League. At least Leipzig can testify.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

This could not be an easy draw as it seems. Dortmund have a really powerful card, Haaland. Grin

We have seen how great he played against Sevilla in the last round. He is in-form and will be a big threat for City. But still the favorite is City of course.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Porto - Chelsea
Hard one. I say Chelsea but rooting for Porto.

Yeah, maybe Porto could make a surprise again. After eliminating Juventus, they have drawn the attention of other teams for sure. I think Chelsea will be well-prepared for them. Imo, Chelsea will manage to eliminate them.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Bayern München - Paris Saint-Germain
Bayern is unstoppable. They are favorite in tournament.

This is the toughest one. Bayern are playing really insane. But PSG also are great and we have seen them against Barcelona. Neymar has bounced back. Him and Mbappe will be very big threats for Bayern for sure. But still I'm favoring Bayern here.

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Real Madrid - Liverpool
The hardest one. I say any of them will not pass semi final.

This is another tough draw. They played a final match against each other in the past and now they will be competing against each other in the quarter finals. Even though Liverpool are going on badly in the EPL, I'm favoring them for this draw. I think they will manage to eliminate Real.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

I think this will be difficult to know which team to win. Even if Man City is unstoppable in Premier League and Dortmund is only in 5th position on Bundesliga, it doesn't mean Man City will win easily. You must know if Dortmund has Erling Haaland, his performance is very impressive, and often makes the difference in a match. This man can the nightmare for Man City in the next stage.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Real Madrid - Liverpool
The hardest one.

Why it is the hardest one?
No doubt that Real Madrid will win the match. Real Madrid players are ready to give their best performance with Sergio Ramos already come back from the injury. Now, Real Madrid's key players are quite complete; (defense) Ramos-Varane, (midfield) Casemiro-Kross-Modric, (attacking) Benzema. I think with these players, Real Madrid has a bigger chance to win. While Liverpool still has a problem in the defense line and even Firminho-Henderson are still injured.

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I know that some match seem very predictable. But at this stage everything is still very possible for me as the spirit of the team continues to grow to achieve their goal every season here. I think it is too early to determine which of the 8 remaining team will currently win the champions, but some of the team most likely to win the champions are Bayern Muenchen, Manchester City and Real Madrid.

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Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

Both leg will be won by the of Manchester City

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Porto - Chelsea
Hard one. I say Chelsea but rooting for Porto.

The first leg is draw, and the second will be won by Chelsea.

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Bayern München - Paris Saint-Germain
Bayern is unstoppable. They are favorite in tournament.

I don't think PSG reached the next round, Bayern went through with two wins.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Real Madrid - Liverpool
The hardest one. I say any of them will not pass semi final.

Winning will be possible for Madrid at home, but Liverpool will draw at home in the second leg.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

It's an easy choice. Manchester city will win this match easily if there is no miracle happening and If their players are not injured.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Porto - Chelsea
Hard one. I say Chelsea but rooting for Porto.

Both teams is equally strong. I think first match will be a draw and the second Leg Chelsea will win.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Bayern München - Paris Saint-Germain
Bayern is unstoppable. They are favorite in tournament.

I think PSG will win. Because their main goal is the Champions League. I bet on PSG.

Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Real Madrid - Liverpool
The hardest one. I say any of them will not pass semi final.

I don’t want to say anything about this match. Anything can happen in this match. Both teams are very unpredictable this season.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on March 20, 2021, 10:53:09 PM

Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

Another magical match might occur on the ucl night. No matter how big city chances, dortmund will show their magic on this game. We'll see

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Porto - Chelsea
Hard one. I say Chelsea but rooting for Porto.

I have no clue about this one. We need to see the line up first.

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Bayern München - Paris Saint-Germain
Bayern is unstoppable. They are favorite in tournament.

Can't beat your argument.

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Real Madrid - Liverpool
The hardest one. I say any of them will not pass semi final.

The game is call for liverpool to show their class after worst days in premier league.

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Manchester City - Borussia Dortmund
Manchester City will pass.

Porto - Chelsea
Hard one. I say Chelsea but rooting for Porto.

Bayern München - Paris Saint-Germain
Bayern is unstoppable. They are favorite in tournament.

Real Madrid - Liverpool
The hardest one. I say any of them will not pass semi final.

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Porto has no chances, they got lucky with Juventus but that is the end of it. Their Champions League will end after the quarter-final against Chelsea.

Porto isn't a favorite team, in this situation, they will enjoy the game, unstressed, and possibly they will be black horse, messed up the bet and together with Dortmund to the final.

Indeed, Porto is not a favorite team for most people and Porto always enters the top 16 and so on several times in the Champions League.
And but to advance to the next round it seems impossible because Chelsea are not an easy team and Porto have a bad record, because both teams have met eight times in the Champions League, and from the results of Chelsea who managed to get 5 wins. In my opinion, Nati Chelsea easily defeats dark horses, and Porto can get rid of Juventus because of good luck.

Yes, Chelsea has the best performance, they never lose in the last 13 games, they have perfect as a team in the champions league either. while Porto was unpredictable, they aren't getting lucky to defeat Juventus because it's not diced, they use strategy and success blockade Juventus midfielder atm.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 20, 2021, 06:15:17 PM

Soo why Liverpool is so bad this year, what is the real problem?

The big problem that happened in Liverpool: many of the key players, especially their defenders, are injured for a long time. This is a serious problem.
Their defensive line is much weaker this season without Virgil van Dijk, Joel Matip, and Joe Gomez. Moreover, Jordan Henderson got injured too, this really brings bad impacts on their defense and the balance of the Liverpool squad on the field. Even worse, Roberto Firmino followed those key players to get injured as well. Finally, their attacking power is decreasing too.

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Soo why Liverpool is so bad this year, what is the real problem?
Why from 20 points of advantage in the previous league they are now doing so badly?

Is the magic over?

Many things have made Liverpool's performance very poor this year. Based on my investigation, Liverpool rely too much on the main team.
They are a team that rarely rotates players, especially when Liverpool's playing schedule is very busy. Therefore it is not surprising that many
Liverpool players have suffered injuries. And what makes Liverpool's situation so bad is that their substitute players are very different from
the quality of the main team. Then another problem is that Liverpool bring in players who are not too good quality, only Jota and Thiago who
have good enough quality. Liverpool should have brought 3-4 star players, maybe next season Liverpool should change their transfer policy.
Therefore I am pessimistic that Liverpool can beat Real Madrid and qualify for the next round in the Champions League.

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Quote from: AakZaki on March 20, 2021, 12:01:13 PM

The match will take place on the 6th April first leg, after that Madrid will have El Clasico match 5 days later and in the second leg UCL 4 days after that. It seems that Madrid have to work hard, 8 days with 3 crucial matches. I hope their players don't get injured. Actually I want to win double championships UCL and La LIga at this season, but it looks like it will be difficult even if there is always hope. Liverpol was not an easy match, they did well at UCL even without Virgil. The history of the match three years ago Liverpol lost 3-1, they lost once because of a shoulder injury during the duel with Ramos. Maybe this could be Liverpol's revenge mission. But these two teams are the same, they don't have many good substitutes.

Soo why Liverpool is so bad this year, what is the real problem?
Why from 20 points of advantage in the previous league they are now doing so badly?

Is the magic over?

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...And I must admit that I really want to see City in the final and becoming the champions. They are having a wonderful season and they also deserve to be the champions here and complete the double.

And maybe not just the double, but a treble or even the quadruple, City are alive in all four competitions, so there's still a chance they are going to win them all, an unprecedented four trophies; City's run in the UCL always come to an abrupt end, leaving football fans disappointed, but I honestly think they can go all the way this time around. Pep will be itching for CL glory with City as that's the only trophy that's eluded him thus far, they just have to make it to the final imo, if they do, they'll win the trophy, but the problem is that there's a possibility of facing Bayern on the road to the final.

If Bayern cross City's path in the next round, things could be much harder for City surely. Because I think that City have more chance against PSG. And if City manage to eliminate whichever team advance from Bayern-PSG draw, I also think that City will have the most chance to be the champions. It will also be their very first title in the Champions League and it will have a big meaning for them without doubt.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on March 19, 2021, 06:23:24 AM

The quarterfinals have been drawn:

ManCity - Borussia Dortmund
FC Porto - FC Chelsea
Bayern - PSG
Real - Liverpool

Winner of quarterfinal 1 will play against winner of QF 3 and winner of QF 2 vs winner of QF 4.

So it will be ManCity vs Bayern or PSG in the first semifinal. I think that bayern is like a 60/40 favorite againts PSG but we will see. Man city should have no problems with BVB though.
Chelsea will advance vs Porto and Real vs. Liverpool is a 50/50 game for me.

The game pairs turned out better than I thought they would.
As for me the most interesting matches are ManCity - Borussia Dortmund and Bayern - PSG. In these matches it is difficult to predict who will win because the rivals are very strong. One of them I think will win the final of the Champions League.
But with the matches FC Porto - FC Chelsea and Real - Liverpool is easier. Here there are clear favorites are Chelsea and Liverpool. I think Liverpool will win because Real Madrid has had a lot of problems this season.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on March 19, 2021, 06:01:36 PM

Isn't Liverpool missing a lot of players? Have they healed back?
The condition of Liverpool can change if these players can be recovered or not.

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The match will take place on the 6th April first leg, after that Madrid will have El Clasico match 5 days later and in the second leg UCL 4 days after that. It seems that Madrid have to work hard, 8 days with 3 crucial matches. I hope their players don't get injured. Actually I want to win double championships UCL and La LIga at this season, but it looks like it will be difficult even if there is always hope. Liverpol was not an easy match, they did well at UCL even without Virgil. The history of the match three years ago Liverpol lost 3-1, they lost once because of a shoulder injury during the duel with Ramos. Maybe this could be Liverpol's revenge mission. But these two teams are the same, they don't have many good substitutes.

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