UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread - page 935.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on September 29, 2020, 10:28:50 AM

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Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

I think it so. Even it is true for Barcelona too . They are not in their previous deadly position . It will take a few years for them to adjust .Koeman wants to reorganize the Barcelona team in a completely new way . I look forward to seeing Barcelona's previous offensive performance.

Koeman was the right coach to get the Dutch team back on track. After he become the coach the reached the finale of the Nation Legaue after a few years with qualifing for the Worl Cup/European Cup.

If he does the same for Barcelona, the prizes will come.

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Quote from: kassex on September 29, 2020, 07:53:03 AM

Quote from: Naida_BR on September 28, 2020, 03:26:39 AM

Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

I think it so. Even it is true for Barcelona too. They are not in their previous deadly position. It will take a few years for them to adjust. Koeman wants to reorganize the Barcelona team in a completely new way. I look forward to seeing Barcelona's previous offensive performance.

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Quote from: kassex on September 29, 2020, 07:53:03 AM

Quote from: Naida_BR on September 28, 2020, 03:26:39 AM

Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

Real Madrid isn't that good anymore since Christiano Ronaldo left. They have some goal players left but they don't have anyone for him in the place who made so much goals. The game against Ajax few years ago said enough. Left's hope Real will find their good shape back.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on September 28, 2020, 03:26:39 AM

Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

Real Madrid? A bad example: In the Champions League, Real Madrid will not be competitive for at least the next 2-3 years. Real Madrid can only count on La Liga, but even there it has serious competitors.

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So, today we have 3 2nd leg play-off games. Any thoughts about it?
Ferencvaros - Molde should be a great game. First game was really crazy, which ended 3:3. I was planning to go with Ferencvaros to qualify, but odds isn't very attractive, just 1.40.
Dynamo Kyiv - Genk. I'm backing Dynamo. They won away game and with new manager Lucescu they are playing really good football. While Genk are struggling so far - they are nearby by relegation zone in Belgium.
Omonia - Olympiakos. OLY is better team and they already have 2:0 score from first game. But I think they are going win tonight too to be 100% to reach group stage and avoid some drama in last minutes.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on September 28, 2020, 03:26:39 AM

Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

I remember how many people said at the last world championship that Germany would win the cup! What happened after the 1/8th all perfectly remember ... Wink

That's why I also think that we shouldn't be 100% in the Bayern victory!

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Quote from: dre1982 on September 25, 2020, 03:54:31 PM

Nowadays Barcelona is playing like a itialian team. Just trying to get no goal against and hoping that they score.

that's right, this type of game is very boring to me
I don't watch games to see the team win with a boring game
I watch games to have fun, this is my philosophy (very rugby style)

of course many ppl prefer see boring game (and beloved team win)

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Quote from: Naida_BR on September 28, 2020, 03:26:39 AM

We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.

Exactly, If welook at the local strength, they have become a solid team. But, if we talk about UCL, it will be different for Bayern. In my opinion, Bayern were lucky at UCL last year because Madrid and Barcelona have a problem with their players. If they return to their best performance this season, it will also be tough for Bayern to be able to defend the trophy they won last season. Liverpool will return to improve their performance for UCL this season after failing to reach the final last season. don't forget about Man City who have improved in transfer window. I think this season will be hard for Bayern compared to last season in UCL competition

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Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Just be a little patient man...
We are still in the beginning of the season you can't say that Bayern is going to win everything again.
Many team such as Real Madrid are still dangerous and competitive and can win Bayern in knockout games.
On top of that, many things can change during the winter transfer window - Bayern might be weakened who knows...

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on September 26, 2020, 12:00:21 PM

Quote from: kassex on September 26, 2020, 11:35:40 AM

There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

So you are seeing Sevilla better than teams like City, Real, Juve, PSG or Liverpool etc.? If Sevilla manages to bring Bayern into trouble, all these team can do it very well, too in my opinion. If you want to have a chance against Bayern, Sevillas tactic could be a good example how to approach the match. If you play such a high-risk formation like Schalke did last week with slow offensive full-backs against Gnabry and Sane, it's no wonder you concede 8 goals. I still see Bayern as the top-favourite for this years title but it won't be a walk in the park for them either. Not every team will be as chanceless as Barca or Schalke.

@Darkoth89 in my personal opinion this year Liverpool is a very strong contender to win the champions league, because not only have they retained their star player’s, but they have also made some wise additions too. Lastly if I had to pick a second team then I would definitely pick Bayern, but I’m also going to keep my eyes on Manchester City as I feel that Pep will deliver something big this season.

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https://www.sentinelassam.com/sports-news/pep-guardiola-says-he-has-to-earn-new-man-city-contract-502632

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on September 26, 2020, 12:00:21 PM

Quote from: kassex on September 26, 2020, 11:35:40 AM

There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

So you are seeing Sevilla better than teams like City, Real, Juve, PSG or Liverpool etc.? If Sevilla manages to bring Bayern into trouble, all these team can do it very well, too in my opinion. If you want to have a chance against Bayern, Sevillas tactic could be a good example how to approach the match. If you play such a high-risk formation like Schalke did last week with slow offensive full-backs against Gnabry and Sane, it's no wonder you concede 8 goals. I still see Bayern as the top-favourite for this years title but it won't be a walk in the park for them either. Not every team will be as chanceless as Barca or Schalke.

Sevilla-level teams cannot play open football with Bayern-level teams. The only option is clear play in defense and quick counterattacks. This is the only way to beat Bayern. And Sevilla almost succeeded. But here the level of players affected.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on September 26, 2020, 11:22:14 PM

I just can't wait to watch the finals held on Wednesday. Both teams are tough and hard to beat.
I support Dortmund I have a strong belief that this year they'll lift the cup. They played tough in the last game and won the match.

Seeing Dortmund losing badly yesterday vs Augsburg with 2 goals, I am no more sure they can compete and stand vs Bayern..
Odds in bookies are x1.48 for Bayern and x5. 2 for Dortmund... I expect both to score but Bayern will most likely win the game!

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I just can't wait to watch the finals held on Wednesday. Both teams are tough and hard to beat.
I support Dortmund I have a strong belief that this year they'll lift the cup. They played tough in the last game and won the match.

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Quote from: kassex on September 26, 2020, 11:35:40 AM

There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

So you are seeing Sevilla better than teams like City, Real, Juve, PSG or Liverpool etc.? If Sevilla manages to bring Bayern into trouble, all these team can do it very well, too in my opinion. If you want to have a chance against Bayern, Sevillas tactic could be a good example how to approach the match. If you play such a high-risk formation like Schalke did last week with slow offensive full-backs against Gnabry and Sane, it's no wonder you concede 8 goals. I still see Bayern as the top-favourite for this years title but it won't be a walk in the park for them either. Not every team will be as chanceless as Barca or Schalke.

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on September 25, 2020, 02:35:24 PM

Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Well, haven't you watched their match yesterday? That wasn't soo convincing by Bayern as you could have expected beforehand. Sevilla showed pretty good how you should play against Bayern these days. And ff En-Nesyri has his nerves under control just right the end or if he is facing a goalkeeper other than Manuel Neuer, Sevilla wins the game.

There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

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Initially, Bayern was a favorite of the match, and no one doubted her win! However, Sevilla played very well in defence, otherwise extra time wouldn't have happened... At least the level of the teams is completely different - Sevilla is good!

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Quote from: cryptofrka on September 25, 2020, 03:55:43 AM

Bayern was better throughout the game and deserves the trophy. Sevilla was decent and played to their strengths, but it was always about Bayern.

If you look at the whole game, Bayern was clearly the better team. Sevilla got a controversial penalty. You can see it as a foul, but just as well as a normal duel. After that, mainly Bayern controlled the gameplay and had some good chances. Sane's goal was regular and actually Bayern should have won the game within the regular play time. In the end Sevilla still had a big chance, but you could see how the striker lost his temper when he suddenly saw Manuel Neuer in front of him Cheesy

All in all it was not an outstanding game, but Bayern deserved to win.

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Quote from: babo on September 25, 2020, 12:48:30 PM

Quote from: dre1982 on September 25, 2020, 05:46:17 AM

The 'old' Barcelona was great with their tiki taka football. But the last years the aren't that great anymore. Messi is getting older and the basis around him is now gone. Let's hope some other player will rise.

Frenkie is a good player but too bad he doens't score that much.

exact, you get the point! i mean old barcelona Cheesy

i like the show, i like to have fun while i watch a game
the games played in defense bore me very much

i now follow F1 now, becase guy like https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Mansell cant race (many laws, many rules.. BORING)

Nowadays Barcelona is playing like a itialian team. Just trying to get no goal against and hoping that they score.

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Quote from: kassex on September 25, 2020, 01:11:00 PM

Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

Well, haven't you watched their match yesterday? That wasn't soo convincing by Bayern as you could have expected beforehand. Sevilla showed pretty good how you should play against Bayern these days. And ff En-Nesyri has his nerves under control just right the end or if he is facing a goalkeeper other than Manuel Neuer, Sevilla wins the game.

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Bayern will take all the cups this year, and if they manage to keep the pace, they will defend the Champions League title. They look very strong. Their domestic league is weaker, you can save energy for the Champions League.

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