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Quote from: bct_ail on October 03, 2020, 04:19:05 PM

Quote from: Daniel91 on October 03, 2020, 07:19:09 AM

Why are governments afraid to let people into stadiums?
Probably because the fans are very difficult to control, unlike the customers in the store.

This is probably also the biggest problem. I can remember a football match in Germany. After their own team won and the team went to the fan curve, the social distance from the fans in the fan curve was over.

This is a really serious problem and I have a feeling that the fans, except in very limited numbers and not everywhere, will not return to the stadiums for a long time.
I’m actually sorry about that because when I watch a game without a spectator it really looks sad and empty, there’s no real atmosphere.
The financial losses of the clubs are already very high and in the lower leagues the clubs have already been brought to bankruptcy, and this is becoming an increasingly serious problem.
Nevertheless, this UEFA decision gives hope for at least a partial return of fans to the stadiums and the return of a real football atmosphere.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 03, 2020, 07:19:09 AM

Why are governments afraid to let people into stadiums?
Probably because the fans are very difficult to control, unlike the customers in the store.

This is probably also the biggest problem. I can remember a football match in Germany. After their own team won and the team went to the fan curve, the social distance from the fans in the fan curve was over.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 03, 2020, 07:19:09 AM

Why are governments afraid to let people into stadiums?
Probably because the fans are very difficult to control, unlike the customers in the store.

Yeah that's one of the reasons. I searched for few UK stadium max capacity and found it around 50k, that's mean approximately 15k spectators could attend the game. It is a big space indeed but those people aren't leaving around the stadium, they will come from everywhere, there might be pression in transport, gathering downtown and outside of the stadium, at the entry, exit spots but also at stairs... It requires a lot of efforts and diversion of additional staff to ensure specs respecting social distancing...
I think starting with 1-5k then increase the number every week should be discussed and allowed!

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 03, 2020, 07:19:09 AM

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The 1st game for Juve is obvious at home with the Barca double game.
Uefa wants 10k people at the stadium and looking at the situation Italy is the only place where we MAYBE have this number.

But the situation is worsening day after day here too so it will probably end with no people at stadium

Correct me if I'm wrong, but UEFA allowed to fill 30% from stadium capacity in all their international tournaments. But local governments have final decision. For example, if in Germany or Netherlands fans are allowed to visit stadiums, in England games will be played without fans, despite UEFA permission.
But I'm not sure why governments are so afraid to let fans to watch football. In current reality stadiums is much safer place than supermarket, public transport or pub.

Yes, UEFA has already confirmed the news: https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1311707243251892226
Why are governments afraid to let people into stadiums?
Probably because the fans are very difficult to control, unlike the customers in the store.

It is very difficult to count the number of people in a stadium.
Also this number is huge compared to people who visit stores and the hours that they are staying the one next to the other is very long. Stadiums might be open to spectators only if there are two seats difference between each other.

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The 1st game for Juve is obvious at home with the Barca double game.
Uefa wants 10k people at the stadium and looking at the situation Italy is the only place where we MAYBE have this number.

But the situation is worsening day after day here too so it will probably end with no people at stadium

Correct me if I'm wrong, but UEFA allowed to fill 30% from stadium capacity in all their international tournaments. But local governments have final decision. For example, if in Germany or Netherlands fans are allowed to visit stadiums, in England games will be played without fans, despite UEFA permission.
But I'm not sure why governments are so afraid to let fans to watch football. In current reality stadiums is much safer place than supermarket, public transport or pub.

Yes, UEFA has already confirmed the news: https://twitter.com/UEFA/status/1311707243251892226
Why are governments afraid to let people into stadiums?
Probably because the fans are very difficult to control, unlike the customers in the store.

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The 1st game for Juve is obvious at home with the Barca double game.
Uefa wants 10k people at the stadium and looking at the situation Italy is the only place where we MAYBE have this number.

But the situation is worsening day after day here too so it will probably end with no people at stadium

Correct me if I'm wrong, but UEFA allowed to fill 30% from stadium capacity in all their international tournaments. But local governments have final decision. For example, if in Germany or Netherlands fans are allowed to visit stadiums, in England games will be played without fans, despite UEFA permission.
But I'm not sure why governments are so afraid to let fans to watch football. In current reality stadiums is much safer place than supermarket, public transport or pub.

Safety must be a priority and there is no safer place except at home so fans can watch matches at home
You must have heard a few months ago that Series A players were exposed to Covid

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on October 02, 2020, 04:46:35 PM

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The 1st game for Juve is obvious at home with the Barca double game.
Uefa wants 10k people at the stadium and looking at the situation Italy is the only place where we MAYBE have this number.

But the situation is worsening day after day here too so it will probably end with no people at stadium

Correct me if I'm wrong, but UEFA allowed to fill 30% from stadium capacity in all their international tournaments. But local governments have final decision. For example, if in Germany or Netherlands fans are allowed to visit stadiums, in England games will be played without fans, despite UEFA permission.
But I'm not sure why governments are so afraid to let fans to watch football. In current reality stadiums is much safer place than supermarket, public transport or pub.

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Source: https://twitter.com/GiovaAlbanese/status/1312107485965152256

The 1st game for Juve is obvious at home with the Barca double game.
Uefa wants 10k people at the stadium and looking at the situation Italy is the only place where we MAYBE have this number.

But the situation is worsening day after day here too so it will probably end with no people at stadium

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Really good groups have been drawn and there will be a lot of nice matches and I can already see potential upsets and dark horses. The most interesting group will be group D for me with Atalanta, Liverpool, Ajax and Midtjylland.

This group will be crazy one for sure, every match over 2.5 goals by a mile from my perspective and lots of potential surprising results on the horizon. i won't be surprised to see Liverpool lose few matches at all.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 02, 2020, 02:28:42 AM

I think this year Uefa Champions League will even more beautiful to watch than it usually is in the group stages because of the awesome draw that has put many strong teams in the same group like Real Madrid and Inter in one group,Juventus and Barcelona in one group and so on.Lastly I am impressed with Ferencvaros making it to the group stage.

They seem much more balanced than last time. Two of the top teams would advance to knockout round and it's largely predictable which would be those team in most of the groups. Though the large team clashing early are would be entertaining to watch as they might even get a second chance to play with one another in knock out stage.
Things do remains dynamic in football but there a lesser interval between the last finals and this one. And in my opinion, Munich and PSG would still be the strongest for the tournament.

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Quote from: bct_ail on October 02, 2020, 08:37:00 AM

I wouldn't call that their mentality. But the sum of their arrivals and departures is considerable. 31 new players were bought and 29 players were sold. In contrast to Munich, Liverpool and Manchester, this is really a lot.

That's quite a lot as per transfers in the Inter Milan team and they aren't doing badly to me. A mean, their last game against benevento ended in a 2-5 win for Inter Milan, securing their 3points and maintaining the third position on the league table.
That's not bad at all.
Considering the influx of players in and out of the team with regards to transfers, a lot of teams would have had understanding issues before measuring up in the games.

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Quote from: babo on October 02, 2020, 07:46:34 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on October 02, 2020, 06:04:18 AM

I agree with you, all the groups are quite homogeneous, but as an Inter fan I don't think he will finish first in his group, Real Madrid are very strong and it will not be easy to win the double clash against them. but we will see and I hope that Inter arrive as far as possible

i dont like inter..
not so much the players or the coach, it's a club with a wrong mentality .. a mentality I buy everything and it doesn't work like that in my opinion
the best thing to do is to build (starting from the Primavera team)

I wouldn't call that their mentality. But the sum of their arrivals and departures is considerable. 31 new players were bought and 29 players were sold. In contrast to Munich, Liverpool and Manchester, this is really a lot.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/inter-milan/transferrekorde/verein/46/plus/0/galerie/0?saison_id=2020&pos=&detailpos=&altersklasse=&w_s=

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Quote from: babo on October 02, 2020, 07:46:34 AM

Quote from: Lillominato89 on October 02, 2020, 06:04:18 AM

I agree with you, all the groups are quite homogeneous, but as an Inter fan I don't think he will finish first in his group, Real Madrid are very strong and it will not be easy to win the double clash against them. but we will see and I hope that Inter arrive as far as possible

i dont like inter..
not so much the players or the coach, it's a club with a wrong mentality .. a mentality I buy everything and it doesn't work like that in my opinion
the best thing to do is to build (starting from the Primavera team)

I do not completely agree with you, it is true that in the past Inter have spent a lot and received little ... mostly due to the incompetence of some managers of the past, but it is also true that they also had strong players coming from spring, practical example Obafemi Martins, Santon. but he made the best deals by selling other young people to get champions, like selling Bonucci to have Milito and Thiago Motta, we won everything that could be won

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on October 02, 2020, 06:04:18 AM

I agree with you, all the groups are quite homogeneous, but as an Inter fan I don't think he will finish first in his group, Real Madrid are very strong and it will not be easy to win the double clash against them. but we will see and I hope that Inter arrive as far as possible

i dont like inter..
not so much the players or the coach, it's a club with a wrong mentality .. a mentality I buy everything and it doesn't work like that in my opinion
the best thing to do is to build (starting from the Primavera team)

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I like the composition. This is partly a really interesting draw. Fortuna wanted to have some drama right from the start. Cheesy

I'm looking forward to the German clubs in Group B and H. That will be difficult for Gladbach and Leipzig.

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Quote from: giammangiato on October 02, 2020, 05:05:29 AM

finally we start with the most important competition in Europe, good or bad draws have created homogeneous groups, but I believe that group B and group H are the most difficult and unpredictable ones! inter and Real Madrid play first place in group B and PSG and MAN UTD play first place in group H, both groups have a fairly strong third contender

I agree with you, all the groups are quite homogeneous, but as an Inter fan I don't think he will finish first in his group, Real Madrid are very strong and it will not be easy to win the double clash against them. but we will see and I hope that Inter arrive as far as possible

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 02, 2020, 05:25:48 AM

A great group for Liverpool. I've been wanting Ajax for a while, thought I'd be getting them in that final 2 years ago.

Atalanta is basically the strongest team from the 3rd pot but overall it's a group in which Liverpool will probably get the 1st spot and will qualify with relative ease. If the corona situation lets me, I'll probably go to the Atalanta game.

Are you Italian, are they letting fans into games in Italy? Atalanta are a good team but your team Liverpool will be too strong for all the teams in that group. Ajax are not the team they were two seasons ago, bigger clubs have taken their best players.

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My preferred groups are
- group A
- group B
- group G
- group H

I think that in these groups (indeed we can say I hope) there is the show the real one, the one you enjoy watching matches with many goals and many actions

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A great group for Liverpool. I've been wanting Ajax for a while, thought I'd be getting them in that final 2 years ago.

Atalanta is basically the strongest team from the 3rd pot but overall it's a group in which Liverpool will probably get the 1st spot and will qualify with relative ease. If the corona situation lets me, I'll probably go to the Atalanta game.

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All groups look very interesting, and I am sure that we will have a nice matches!
Everybody expects that the favorites will definitely go further, but I would like the newcomers to show surprises too! Wink

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