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Topic: ⚽UEFA EURO 2020 Discussion Thread | Current Phase: Finals in June 2021! - page 11. (Read 31364 times)

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My guess is right, if this final goes to penalties then Italy will win. Maybe if I bet I'll have some extra pocket money. Being able to score a goal, England couldn't move before being locked up by Italy. Looks like the title of the host can not help their mental rise. In fact I was amazed by Italy they were able to control the ball and shoot more. Congratulations to Italy , congratulations Giorgio Chiellini this may be your last title for Italy.
Congratulations to italy for winning EURO 2020 at home to England and such a great achievement after returning the goal and sealing the match from England even though in the end the penalty shootout decided the win.

Harry Kane was worse than before why wasn't he more aggressive and Sterling didn't have a lot of gaps and it was more of a lock on the Italian defense to keep targeting England's main players but the defense was really good and it ended up being a win
Senior defenders Bonucci and Cheilini became the key to his success in Italy.

It's very sad for England to have to give up the trophy at home to another team.

I have read a news that president EUFA has said the format of this league is unfair for players and suppoter, as long as this league there are many teams which got discrimination for their travel. EURO 2020 Format which use many countries that contributed is a bad format and EUFA dont want use this format anymore. England which can reach the final is one of the team which got the advantages for this format and their achievement is not strong as Italy team. 6 of 7 matches England at home.
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Sad for Kane, and sad for the rest of the England boys (literally, actually,,, the ones who missed the penalties were almost all boys especially Saka) I just hope this loss for them does not affect them into the season. It was not their fault, we all know penalties are lottery tickets and anyone can win and lose just by doing something different.
This was the best performance by England in a really long time and Harry Kane is the sole reason they were in the final and as expected they were not able to breach the defense of England and Italy also played an attacking game and you cannot say that penalties are lottery tickets as you need to give respect to the goal keeper who was instrumental during high  pressure situation and keeping up with their composure.
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My guess is right, if this final goes to penalties then Italy will win. Maybe if I bet I'll have some extra pocket money. Being able to score a goal, England couldn't move before being locked up by Italy. Looks like the title of the host can not help their mental rise. In fact I was amazed by Italy they were able to control the ball and shoot more. Congratulations to Italy , congratulations Giorgio Chiellini this may be your last title for Italy.
Congratulations to italy for winning EURO 2020 at home to England and such a great achievement after returning the goal and sealing the match from England even though in the end the penalty shootout decided the win.

Harry Kane was worse than before why wasn't he more aggressive and Sterling didn't have a lot of gaps and it was more of a lock on the Italian defense to keep targeting England's main players but the defense was really good and it ended up being a win
Senior defenders Bonucci and Cheilini became the key to his success in Italy.

It's very sad for England to have to give up the trophy at home to another team.
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Would Italy have won against Denmark? I think it would have been more difficult against Denmark than against England. Denmark would certainly have shot more on goal than England did yesterday.  Wink
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Congratulations to Italy. I've never been a fan of penalty decision in tournaments, I hope one day it will change until a team scores. Penalties are more about luck, I think penalty is a big punishment in football and give one side a big advantage. In general I'm not a fan of it and especially it gives heavier advantage to defensive teams. That kills attacking mentality and positive football, I don't like watching defense for almost 90 minutes. -That's not about Italy's win though, just my general feel about penalty in football.

LOL... penalty is good as far as England manages to win. But they are bad if England loses. What sort of mentality is this? If penalties are so unpredictable, then why the higher ranking side wins the vast majority of the matches that are decided on the basis of penalty shootouts? Penalty shootout was necessary, because both the teams were given 30 minutes of extra time and none of them could score another goal. What do you think? They should have added another 30 minutes? And what would happen if the teams fail to score a goal even after this time? The match can't go on forever.

Where did I say that exactly? Please show it or don't misquote it. Re-read it. That has nothing to do with England's loss.
You just prove my point, mostly teams advanced with penalty shoot-outs. Teams play more controlled and defensive on extra time. You may remember golden goal rule if you are not so young. That type of ending would be more exciting for fans. I'm not a fan of penalties in football generally and for the major tournaments penalties are more decisive. That's my thought, I like to watch good football, I don't want to see teams waste time on extras waiting for penalties.
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Yep, it was a mistake to give so much space to the Italians. I read somewhere that Kane didn't have a single touch on the ball in the Italy's box and that he failed to have a shot on goal only the 2nd time in his international career.

It was not just Kane though, all England's attacking players had a really bad game yesterday. Sometimes it's hard to get back into the offensive groove if you defend too long, and England did that after an early goal. When they conceded, they simply could not jump into an offensive rhythm again.
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England has a very good early goal and they can use it to beat Italy by creating pressure and score a second goal. They chose to do differently, turn to be very seriously defensive. I feel they did not want to attack after having one goal. Maybe they worried that if they attack or counter attack, Italy can score and equalize the result.

England, in the other words, don't deserve to be called as champions because they sacrifice their home stadium advantage very easily. Italy have the DNA of Champions and they equalized the match. After the equalizer, Italy even had some opportunities to beat England in 90 minutes then 120 minutes.

England can try again in the World Cup next year and next Euro. If they manage to join other final matches, they will become champions.

to become a champion, you have to think like a champion
if after the first goal you close in defense (and it is not your style) it means that you are afraid
and therefore, you are not a champion

for Italy the match against Spain was more difficult than against England.. for understand

of course is my personal opinion

I think we should be honest and admit that the better team won in the final.
England took very good advantage of the fact that they played practically the entire European Championship at home, the ban on foreign fans coming to England, the referee's help in the semi-finals etc.
The English players didn't withdraw to the defense of their own free will, but due to the great pressure of the Italian players.
Italy is simply a more compact and better team than England and they showed that in the final and deservedly won.
In fact, it is a pity that the Italians did not solve this game earlier, before the penalties.
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Congratulations to Italy. I've never been a fan of penalty decision in tournaments, I hope one day it will change until a team scores. Penalties are more about luck, I think penalty is a big punishment in football and give one side a big advantage. In general I'm not a fan of it and especially it gives heavier advantage to defensive teams. That kills attacking mentality and positive football, I don't like watching defense for almost 90 minutes. -That's not about Italy's win though, just my general feel about penalty in football.

LOL... penalty is good as far as England manages to win. But they are bad if England loses. What sort of mentality is this? If penalties are so unpredictable, then why the higher ranking side wins the vast majority of the matches that are decided on the basis of penalty shootouts? Penalty shootout was necessary, because both the teams were given 30 minutes of extra time and none of them could score another goal. What do you think? They should have added another 30 minutes? And what would happen if the teams fail to score a goal even after this time? The match can't go on forever.
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My guess is right, if this final goes to penalties then Italy will win. Maybe if I bet I'll have some extra pocket money. Being able to score a goal, England couldn't move before being locked up by Italy. Looks like the title of the host can not help their mental rise. In fact I was amazed by Italy they were able to control the ball and shoot more. Congratulations to Italy , congratulations Giorgio Chiellini this may be your last title for Italy.
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Sad for Kane, and sad for the rest of the England boys (literally, actually,,, the ones who missed the penalties were almost all boys especially Saka) I just hope this loss for them does not affect them into the season. It was not their fault, we all know penalties are lottery tickets and anyone can win and lose just by doing something different.

Hats off to the Italians and Mancini vindication.
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I also think that England has made the wrong decision. They thought if they do full defense then they would be able to win the final match. But this decision made Italy, even more, dominating the game. If England continues to play as usual (like against Denmark), then Italy would not be that easy to win the ball possession. So that England's chances of winning (without the extra time and penalty shootouts) will be even better.
I was very disappointed with England's decision which was much different in the second half. I think England still have a chance to win without extra time and penalties if they play like the start of the first half. But their decision to stay was probably due to Italy's reaction after conceding a goal and forcing the England players to retreat to their own defensive area.

But there is nothing to regret after Italy won this title after both teams had to fight to win in regular time. England and their players don't look like a team that has a winning mentality on penalties and Italy are stronger there.
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England has a very good early goal and they can use it to beat Italy by creating pressure and score a second goal. They chose to do differently, turn to be very seriously defensive. I feel they did not want to attack after having one goal. Maybe they worried that if they attack or counter attack, Italy can score and equalize the result.

England, in the other words, don't deserve to be called as champions because they sacrifice their home stadium advantage very easily. Italy have the DNA of Champions and they equalized the match. After the equalizer, Italy even had some opportunities to beat England in 90 minutes then 120 minutes.

So Thats The Problem Of England, As I Stated Before, They Choose To Be Defensive After an Early Goal. They Can Make second and third goal If They Keep Their Attack Scheme.

I also think that England has made the wrong decision. They thought if they do full defense then they would be able to win the final match. But this decision made Italy, even more, dominating the game. If England continues to play as usual (like against Denmark), then Italy would not be that easy to win the ball possession. So that England's chances of winning (without the extra time and penalty shootouts) will be even better.
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is there a reason why Cristiano Ronaldo is now the top scorer and not Patrcik Schick? Roll Eyes
both have scored 5 goals in this tournament - is there some crazy rule again? Tongue

Both players have same goal number so they check assists. Ronaldo have one assist and Schick have none so they give Golden Boot to Ronaldo. Like it or not but this is rules.

Congratulations to Italy. I've never been a fan of penalty decision in tournaments, I hope one day it will change until a team scores. Penalties are more about luck, I think penalty is a big punishment in football and give one side a big advantage. In general I'm not a fan of it and especially it gives heavier advantage to defensive teams. That kills attacking mentality and positive football, I don't like watching defense for almost 90 minutes. -That's not about Italy's win though, just my general feel about penalty in football.
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Top Scorer : CRISTIANO RONALDO

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is there a reason why Cristiano Ronaldo is now the top scorer and not Patrcik Schick? Roll Eyes
both have scored 5 goals in this tournament - is there some crazy rule again? Tongue
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England has a very good early goal and they can use it to beat Italy by creating pressure and score a second goal. They chose to do differently, turn to be very seriously defensive. I feel they did not want to attack after having one goal. Maybe they worried that if they attack or counter attack, Italy can score and equalize the result.

England, in the other words, don't deserve to be called as champions because they sacrifice their home stadium advantage very easily. Italy have the DNA of Champions and they equalized the match. After the equalizer, Italy even had some opportunities to beat England in 90 minutes then 120 minutes.

So Thats The Problem Of England, As I Stated Before, They Choose To Be Defensive After an Early Goal. They Can Make second and third goal If They Keep Their Attack Scheme.

England can try again in the World Cup next year and next Euro.

Yeah, Very Agreed But As a Loser Again Cheesy
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England reached the final knowing they were gonna play in Wembley. They had a great start, finding a goal in two minutes and what do they do? They start defending with the whole 11 players!
That was so stupid. Italy suffered 15 minuntes but then found the right way to attack ending with a crazy > 70% ball possession!
Italy deserved the Cup, no doubts but this England lost a once in a lifetime opportunity considering they played Euro2020 basically at home.
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I felt the coach of England Gareth Southgate made a strange decision when they played against Italy yesterday, England have a great start when they managed to score an early goal against Italy, but I wonder why did England choose to play the match against Italy in defensive mode after scoring an early goal instead of balancing their attacks and defense for the rest of the match.

And since the focus of England are only on their defense, it allows the players of Italy to control the game tempo and keep on launching attacks in search of the equalizer goal and they finally get their reward when they scored the equalizer goal and thus the game would have to go into extra time and penalty shootout. I just wonder if England were to play more aggressively in attacking after scoring an early goal, and with Harry Kane leading the frontline, maybe the final outcome of the match would be different.
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I just woke up because I stayed up late to watch Italy vs England match
It was a great feeling to see England score the first goal in half 1 and I think it will last until the end of the game

but Italy can make 1 goal also in the second half, a little disappointed with the England game, they seem to be playing defensively
Italy is much more suited to that trophy
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I fell asleep immediately after the game yesterday, these constant overtimes really wore me out Grin

I'm glad that Italy won at the end, I thought they were the better team throughout the 120 minutes. I feel a bit bad about Saka though, it takes courage to shoot that last penalty, he's only 19 years old and will be put under a lot of pressure for a prolonged period now. He's also been racially abused, which is something that should never happen.

I like english team football-wise, but the english fans showed once again yesterday why the whole world is against them. Disgusting behavior.
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