Topic: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers - page 343. (Read 46458 times)

Italy, Netherlands and Spain are actually very strong teams for the Euros and of course these three teams can have more wins than some of the teams on your list.
The Euros are always won by big and strong national teams so that from the very beginning of the qualifying rounds we have been able to see more wins that can be achieved by other strong teams.
From group G, Bulgaria became a very sad team because they couldn't have one win in 4 matches and this could be the start of proving that Bulgaria would easily be eliminated in the German Euro 2024 cup.

I don't agree that they are being placed in a weak group. It is as tough as it can get. They have two very strong teams (Spain and Scotland) in addition to two teams that can spring some surprises every now and then (Cyprus and Georgia). After heavy defeats to Spain and Scotland, now the chances of Norway qualifying for the final tournament is very low. In the next phase they have one match against Georgia. But even if they win that match, Spain can easily overtake them to become no.2 in the group. For Spain there are two matches in the next phase - against Georgia and Cyprus.

Its so strange for Norway to be this much unsuccessful in that weak group. And I agree with that post, they have many above average players that would even make countries like Germany jealous. I felt like they are literally the biggest disappointment. I don't think they will be able to fix it anymore cause Scotland showed extraordinary good performance and I am pretty sure they will hit first or second rank in this group along with Spain. (Spain will be better - don't worry)

Talking about Norway this team has been failed to regeneration their squad because last time they were playing at big tournament on Euro 2000 and since that seems Norway status is only as underdog and at Euro qualification or World cup qualification matches Norway always be end up with dissappoint results and actually this year Norway has promising squad because for defender they have Kristoffer Ajer who playing at Brentford, for midfielder they have Martin Odegaard from Arsenal and for forward lines everybody knows Norway has Haaland but seems these players cannot able to make Norway to performing well and just like i said before i think Norway will be failed to play at Euro 2024 remains their position who already lose twice and only get draw result from weak team Georgia

I was looking at the points table and came up with a list of teams that can be considered as the biggest disappointments:

Group A: Norway (so far won just 1 out of their total 4 matches)
Group F: Sweden (one win out of three matches)
Group G: Bulgaria (no wins from four matches)
Group J: Bosnia (one win out of four matches)
Group J: Iceland (one win out of four matches)

I am not adding Italy, Netherlands and Spain to this list, because they haven't played a large number of matches till now.

Well, as far as the Croatian technical director is concerned, I don't know what plans he has for the Croatian team, and despite the fact that Modric is reaching an age where many things are compromised, I would like it if they could endure one more World Cup, sometimes a generation The relief game is good, but they must have players who are veterans and who can intuit the new ones to act on the field in a way, the experience is not improvised, and in this case I think that Modric could undoubtedly make the difference, this is something similar to the case of Messi, from CR7, these players who are so important in the world of soccer and in their national teams, Croatia is a country that has very good soccer and I really like the Croatian style of soccer, it is very efficient , and it's not just that they play under one tactic, each player shows their specific talent.


I am one of those who think that Modric lacks one more World Cup, like CR7, Messi, Ibra, but I know that things are not so good, but I am sure that if the Croatian team lets Modric know that They still need him, they want them to be captain, I would love it , because he is a player who will always give his all, I also think that Modric is at his best moment, because he has a third place in the world cup, he was also He appears in Real Madrid , and is very loved in Croatia.

He is not only loved in Croatia, many people in the world feel a lot of affection for the Croatian, one of the winners of the Golden Ball, a pride for Croatia , personally for me Modric Still has a lot to Give for his Country, to show us For us , the great thing about fútbol, in addition to the fact that Croatia needs its leader , there are players who retire until they are 43 or 45 years old and continue to give it their all as if they were younger, the advantage that young people have over a veteran Player is that they have More Speed.

Modric is a big factor in Croatia's good run so far. His performance was quite impressive in the latest Nations League tournament as well. But he might be on the verge of retiring from national football on one hand. Actually I would really like to see him playing in Euro 2024 to make this big tournament his last one in his career. But for now he is silent about the future of his career. If he retires earlier then there will be alternatives to him like Brozovic, Kovacic and Majer to fill his place in Euro 2024.

According to their current formation and the choices of Dalic, Kovacic and Brozovic are already in the starting eleven. In this case Dalic will need to look for whether there is a better replacement than Majer for Modric's position.

@rdluffy, maybe you'll be interested in how Croatian institutions treat some Croatian players and how they time indictments in order to try at all costs to force Modric to no longer play for the national team. These days it is unbelievable to see some Croatian media calling for a boycott of the national team and are particularly cruel towards Modric and Lovren.

Of course, you should know that many in Croatia hate everything that has to do with any national team, but that's the case in a country ruled by the children of communists and fans of one of the greatest criminals in the history, Broz Tito.

https://www.insideworldfootball.com/2023/07/03/modric-lovren-face-new-croatian-trial-transfer-fraud/

I also respect your list, I won't talk about Croatia anymore because I have already talked too much hehehe

About the other teams, Italy and Germany are unstable, as I mentioned in my previous message, and at any moment they can reach a good shape and become unbeatable, but they suffer from inconsistency, they are teams like Brazil that are champions one year and can't even qualify the next, they lack consistency

Spain I disagree with you a little, after all they have just been champions of the League, it is a more settled team, they know how to play and are gaining experience. It is not a messed team, I believe they will have a good Euro 2024 and possibly an even better World Cup

England is a case apart, I know that the team is strong, several good players individually, they play good matches, but it seems that when they face a decisive match they can't keep up the good level soccer (or football hehe)

Now that the league of nations is over, we will be able to see better about each team, as some teams have only played 2 games so far, others have played 4...

But I keep my list. I'll save in a text here and I'll compare in the end of the qualifiers and in the end of Euro, let's see if my predictions are good 

Croatia are a really successful team in the World Cup recently. We have all seen how good they were in the last one as well. However there isn't the same look when it comes to Euro tournaments. I have checked all the tournaments since Euro 2000. There isn't a single time that they even made it to the semi finals. Hence while placing them in the rankings for next Euro tournament I wouldn't put them in the first places. But they would still be like 5th or 6th team for me in top 10.

Because I still like their effective team play. The experienced players in the team like Modric are still playing a huge role.

I think this is a list that underestimates some teams and puts certain teams in a place that right now, given their weakness, they don't deserve to be where you put them. I agree that Franca is the best team in Europe right now, but England also has a good team and then comes Portugal. look at the roster of players from england and portugal, you will see that they have many good players like france currently have. In Portugal there are: Ronaldo, Rafael Leao, Bernardo Silva, Joao Cancelo, Diogo Jota, Joao Felix and others. portugal has many players of high technical level, and england too

just see that england has harry kane, Saka, rashford, Declan Rice, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Phil Foden and other good players. both portugal and england had 4 games and 4 wins and lead their group with 12 points. In my opinion I only see:

1 - France
2 - England
3 - Portugal

as favorites to win the euro.

Croatia is also strong and could have a chance if it manages to qualify. now about spain, germany, italy, belgium and netherlands... honestly they are unstable teams that even turkey has been doing better than them. spain stopped in time, there were times when it was a great team, today they are nothing. in spain's group despite spain having 2 games less, they played 2 games, with 1 win, 1 loss and guess how many goals spain scored in 2 games? It's unbelievable that even being in a group of weak teams in 2 games spain only scored 3 goals. Netherlands is also in the same situation as spain, italy is also in the same situation as spain, croatia is also in the same situation as spain.

This is a good question and I think one way to approach this question is to have some cross comparison between maybe the first four to five teams from Ligue 1 and the first four to five teams from the Bundesliga. It is not that the Bundesliga is the far better league, but I would assume that if we ran an experiment where the first five play against each other, we would get a distribution that is somewhere around 60:40 for the Bundesliga clubs.

The comparison for the national teams is trickier as a lot of players from the French national team play abroad with Mbappe being the exception given what a player he is. They are still the favorite at the Euro 2024, or maybe exactly because of the many players who are playing abroad.

Last World Cup Croatia did better than England or Spain... 2018 they also proved to be better than the other teams... They were only unlucky against France... So I think that although Croatia are the oldest in Europe, they can make it to the final this time too... The recent Conference League confirmed that Croatia have a lot of strength...

Croatia is a great team but unfortunately their best players are old in age and I don't think the new ones who will replace them in Euro 2024 will be at the same level of them.Also if Croatia plays with these players will have one of the oldest average age as a team and this is not looking promising at all for them to be winning against teams like England,France or Spain for that matter who has a really young team eager to do well and much better than they did in the World Cup last November.

I think that Croatia will go far but I doubt they will be able to win the Euro 2024,we have also Germany playing at home who I think has gone through a complete remake of the team after their miserable fail in the World Cup.

I totally agree with this.
It is actually interesting that the countries with the strongest leagues and clubs, English, Spanish and Italian, have so little success in world competitions in recent years.
On the other hand, the Croatian league is very weak, but their footballers play for the best clubs in the world, such as Real, Inter, Bayern, and now Manchester City.
However, such a Croatia regularly achieves great results at major competitions.
The same goes for Morocco.
Is the reason for their national team failures that the main roles in English, Spanish and Italian clubs are played by foreigners and that local footballers are not used to taking responsibility and being leaders on the field?
Or some other reason?

Croatia as 3rd favorite also makes sense, I respect your opinion.
England is a great team but I still think Croatia is more consistent with their results
About Germany I believe that at any moment they will be able to put together a strong team again. It is quite strange that a country with so many good players is not being able to deliver a good level of soccer.

By the way, if you analyze Brazil, Italy and Germany, they are 3 extremely victorious teams, with 13 world titles together, and they all go through the same situations, in some years they have unbeatable teams, and in other years they have VERY bad campaigns.


And I take your comment to complement the answer.
What I have admired about Croatia's national team is the consistency they have achieved in the championships.
A cup final, a semi final, now they are runner up in the Nations League, and still the media can't give them enough credit, at least is what I see
It is always the same teams that they give more value, and Croatia maybe because it is a smaller country, or because it is not the country that has such a strong media as England and Spain, it is always considered a smaller team.

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In short, while there is a lot of talk about the other teams, Croatia goes out there and plays its best soccer, and I admire that very much.

With all the selection it is difficult to make bets , it is Better to see what level each of the teams have, it takes a long time to make bets at Once, we don't know how much some teams have improved, anything can happen here, Let's remember that Macedonia did great things to get even better than Italy in the World Cup qualifiers in Qatar , so here as far as I'm concerned I prefer to wait and see how they continue to perform , but generally things with the teams that we Consider great They are the most Promising.


It is interesting to see that they have these preferences, I know that England is a very big team and that they have good players, well, the case of Harry Kane is quite peculiar because he is a player who has everything to be successful, but I don't know how he performs with the other players to put it there, but it is urgently needed for the England team to have good results, I remember the era when Beckham was there, he was very good, and they had everything to be champions, except that in the World Cups when they met Brazil, Argenita there was nothing to do.

The teams that I see as the strongest are for me 3, France, Croatia and Portugal, many will say why Portugal? Well, we have a CR7 that doesn't want to waste any more football opportunities and I'm sure that this player will give everything in each competition, because they have that hunger to do things very well and have great victories, every minute that CR7 plays in the Portugal team will not waste it.

We also have that the technical director of Portugal will not make the mistakes of the previous coach, who was a friend of CR7 and earned the hatred of an entire country.

In another aspect, Croatia is a country that has shown a lot, and they have to take advantage of Modric as much as possible, he is a legend, he can do anything in his team and according to his age he knows that he is burning the last cartridges he has as a player in his team, that's why it seems to me that things will get very good in the Euro.

I don't think England to be superior from Croatia although they have better players but Croatia have better team play. It is not names that make team successful but the way they playing, otherwise Morocco wouldn't play in advanced stage in Qatar World Cup.
So I will go with France, Croatia, Spain then the others depending from their performance in each game.

Croatia was very good at the last 2 world championships, but I would still give France and England more chances to win the trophy for now.
Croatia is currently very good in defense and midfield, but it lacks a real, deadly striker, and this was clearly visible in Croatia's last matches.
It is very difficult to win in an uncertain and open game if you don't have a top striker like Mbappe or Kane.
Croatia has not yet recovered after the departure of Mandzukic from the national team, but it will always be a difficult and unpleasant team for any national team in the world and loses games very hard.

I liked your choices in general. Belgium should definitely be at the bottom because they don't give hope to people anymore. They had a great generation to take advantage of but they couldn't. They had to struggle with serious private issues between many players in the squad. It is said that there are still players who don't talk to each other for this reason.

I would have put Croatia to the 3rd or 4th place. Because Spain have proven a couple of times in their head-to-heads that they are still the better side. Of course I still admire Croatia about their fighting really hard with very experienced players. As for a comparison between England and Croatia for now they are at similar levels in terms of successes.

England have such a potential to win many titles with an amazing squad of them. But only the squad itself isn't enough to win a tournament of course.