UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season - page 19.

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Quote from: sana54210 on June 03, 2023, 01:40:02 PM

I do agree 100% that Roma should have won and the ref basically gave the game to Sevilla without a doubt. It was a very very clear situation and Roma was robbed a title, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Mourinho did, he was 100% right, I do not know if there is anything I am not aware of, but all the things he has done is a protest and I agree with them 100%.

How many times can you say that an Europa cup final was decided by a ref this clearly? Even in the most extreme examples we end up seeing just a few situations and positions, this one was basically just arranged, I bet that there could be some betting or bribery going on as well, it should be investigated very clearly. I doubt that this was a clean game, and Mourinho should come out and just bash Uefa as much as he possibly can.

It must be admitted that As Roma should have received a penalty, but unfortunately the referee did not check Var, even though on the repeated question it was very clear that the ball hit the Sevilla player's hand so the ball changed direction. If you saw the FA Final match earlier between Man City Vs Man United the leadership of the referee was very wise, he saw the var and gave a penalty to Man United because the ball hit the hand of a Man City player very thin and didn't even change the direction of the ball. From the two finals we can conclude, It is very clear that the referee who presided over the European League Final was very different from the referee who led the FA Final.

Disappointed with the appearance of the referee in the European Final, even though the final match and the two teams both have records in Europe, on the field the referee ruined this very exciting match. Hopefully FIFA evaluates all the performance of all referees, so that it doesn't happen again in the UCL final between Man City vs Inter Milan.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 03, 2023, 03:21:55 PM

Mourinho and his player lost the game and I think they should accept this.
I see on the news about Mourinho there that he said he made them lose this game because of the referee and his mistakes. If the referee had some mistakes in the game the mistakes couldn't just help Sevilla and Roma also got some benefits from it, not in this game but in other games they had, That's I can say even if the referee was guilty, Mourinho should blame the referee for it because could have better performance in the game and make the referee mistakes do not affect the result of the game. Blaming other people won't solve anything.

Well, even though there were some slightly controversial decisions from the referee, the decision has clearly been taken and now it is too late to protest because the decision cannot be changed in this regard.
I will not blame Roma and Mou as well who are adamant about their statement because indeed they may feel that they have lost in some conditions but on the other hand they should also be aware that the current conditions continue and it is better that their focus be replaced with games in Serie A for the weekend last of having to continue debating with conditions that cannot be changed.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 02, 2023, 06:48:09 PM

Again I lost the bet in the game with Sevilla, usually whenever I bet on a match in which one team is playing against Sevilla I lose the beat and I think that's mostly because Sevilla is an unpredictable team and I usually expect to see them losing the match while they are now the Europa League champion even after the poor performance we saw from this team and inexperienced and infamous coach they have.

I bet on AS Roma, but chose the 0:0 handicap option with odds @1.78. so, I didn't lose this bet. because, the match ended in a draw within 90 minutes of normal time. based on my point of view, the two teams did not display a very impressive game as befits a final match. in this match there was a lot of drama, even the referee tended to be one-sided which in the end drew protests from Jose Mourinho and the AS Roma fans. even though, in fact they shouldn't protest excessively.

In that match, the two teams played as if they had no mission and rhythm of the game. Sevilla with their spartan game, while AS Roma played like a team without a pattern, especially after Dybala was withdrawn due to injury. which in the end, the match took place in a penalty shoot-out. unlucky for AS Roma, and once again Sevilla is really a very lucky team. not because they have experience in this competition, but more luck on their side.

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Mourinho and his player lost the game and I think they should accept this.
I see on the news about Mourinho there that he said he made them lose this game because of the referee and his mistakes. If the referee had some mistakes in the game the mistakes couldn't just help Sevilla and Roma also got some benefits from it, not in this game but in other games they had, That's I can say even if the referee was guilty, Mourinho should blame the referee for it because could have better performance in the game and make the referee mistakes do not affect the result of the game. Blaming other people won't solve anything.

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Quote from: sovie on June 03, 2023, 01:49:41 AM

Everyone is impressed by the performance of the Sevilla team. This team may not do well this season but if they keep up this kind of performance I am sure they will do well next season. The team is currently progressing because of the new players playing every match with responsibility.

Apart from the good performance shown by Sevilla this season in the Europa League competition, Sevilla have also had more luck in the Europa League competition this season. Just imagine if there were no own goals from AS Roma players, of course everyone wouldn't see penalties in the final match either. But the Sevilla team really got unexpected luck with an own goal from AS Roma players so that Sevilla became champions again in the Europa League.

Sevilla proved to have luck several times in this European league before the final until the final can still be lucky.
As was the case with Sevilla and Manchester United, who were lucky to get a goal from a blunder by a Manchester United player.
I don't know what power Sevilla is carrying, for sure Sevilla cannot be underestimated and the next good luck is Sevilla getting a ticket to the champions league after successfully winning the European league.

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In the end, the Europa League is always full of surprises and, of course, after last season, Frankfurt is now part of Sevilla, which is not wrong to give hope to this competition, because they know this is the only chance for them.
In this case, we know that previously there were a lot of people who had doubts and that included myself, who was very doubtful about those who could bring trophies, especially when the opponents they faced were actually the strongest candidates to become champions. But indeed Sevilla managed to do this well and I have to admit that they silenced my statement in the previous few months saying that there is no hope when you see Manchester United and Juventus in the same pot.

But what impressed Sevilla after they won the Europa League trophy was their coach. Where Sevilla this season fired coaches twice because of poor performance in Laliga and in the end Mendilibar was appointed as coach for the rest of the season with Sevilla and he managed to bring Sevilla out of the relegation zone and was also able to present the UEFA trophy.

Even the Europa League trophy is the first trophy for Mendilibar during his coaching period. It's amazing isn't it that he manages to make the fans smile and I think he will get a new contract to ride for Sevilla for next season. Congratulations to Sevilla, they are the strongest team in the Europa League this season, even Arsenal and Manchester United have to bite their fingers this season.

This was also what doubted me at first because the sacking of the Sevilla coach was very close to an important match at that time but again they are really very good to finish the season.
It's quite interesting in the Europa League because even though in this season there are a lot of clubs which in my opinion are very good but in the end this result is as unexpected as the previous season and indeed this is what is interesting for the Europa League.
This season is now closed and hopefully there will be more interesting things for us to see next season, especially since there are several new clubs now participating, such as Brighton from the EPL and Villarreal from La Liga.

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Quote from: sana54210 on June 03, 2023, 01:40:02 PM

I do agree 100% that Roma should have won and the ref basically gave the game to Sevilla without a doubt. It was a very very clear situation and Roma was robbed a title, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Mourinho did, he was 100% right, I do not know if there is anything I am not aware of, but all the things he has done is a protest and I agree with them 100%.

How many times can you say that an Europa cup final was decided by a ref this clearly? Even in the most extreme examples we end up seeing just a few situations and positions, this one was basically just arranged, I bet that there could be some betting or bribery going on as well, it should be investigated very clearly. I doubt that this was a clean game, and Mourinho should come out and just bash Uefa as much as he possibly can.

I admit that there were some unfavorable refereeing decisions for Roma, especially about not being awarded a penalty when one of the Seville players seemed to touch the ball in the box. If the referee had seen and tried to check the VAR, the result might have been different, but that also doesn't guarantee that Roma can win the title.

Sevilla could have played with more concentration when they fell behind Roma, but that's just my opinion. It can be said that Rome did not completely lose because of the referee, but Roma's defeat in the Europa League final was due to their failure to create many goal chance plus not getting proper help from the referee.

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Quote from: flipme on June 03, 2023, 01:18:49 PM

Roma and Mou played with their classic tactics in this match. Frankly, I thought they would win the match when they scored the first goal, but Sevilla players shot very effectively from outside the penalty area. As a matter of fact, the shot taken by Rakitic from outside the penalty area in the 43rd minute was one of them. I think Roma pulled back as a team after scoring and gave encouragement to Sevilla. Mou's classic tactic didn't work this time and Sevilla won the cup. Sevilla did not perform well overall this season, but as they won this trophy, they will play in the Champions League next season. They started the season like a nightmare but finished like a dream.

I do agree 100% that Roma should have won and the ref basically gave the game to Sevilla without a doubt. It was a very very clear situation and Roma was robbed a title, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what Mourinho did, he was 100% right, I do not know if there is anything I am not aware of, but all the things he has done is a protest and I agree with them 100%.

How many times can you say that an Europa cup final was decided by a ref this clearly? Even in the most extreme examples we end up seeing just a few situations and positions, this one was basically just arranged, I bet that there could be some betting or bribery going on as well, it should be investigated very clearly. I doubt that this was a clean game, and Mourinho should come out and just bash Uefa as much as he possibly can.

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Roma and Mou played with their classic tactics in this match. Frankly, I thought they would win the match when they scored the first goal, but Sevilla players shot very effectively from outside the penalty area. As a matter of fact, the shot taken by Rakitic from outside the penalty area in the 43rd minute was one of them. I think Roma pulled back as a team after scoring and gave encouragement to Sevilla. Mou's classic tactic didn't work this time and Sevilla won the cup. Sevilla did not perform well overall this season, but as they won this trophy, they will play in the Champions League next season. They started the season like a nightmare but finished like a dream.

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Quote from: sovie on June 03, 2023, 01:49:41 AM

Everyone is impressed by the performance of the Sevilla team. This team may not do well this season but if they keep up this kind of performance I am sure they will do well next season. The team is currently progressing because of the new players playing every match with responsibility.

Apart from the good performance shown by Sevilla this season in the Europa League competition, Sevilla have also had more luck in the Europa League competition this season. Just imagine if there were no own goals from AS Roma players, of course everyone wouldn't see penalties in the final match either. But the Sevilla team really got unexpected luck with an own goal from AS Roma players so that Sevilla became champions again in the Europa League.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 02, 2023, 06:48:09 PM

Again I lost the bet in the game with Sevilla, usually whenever I bet on a match in which one team is playing against Sevilla I lose the beat and I think that's mostly because Sevilla is an unpredictable team and I usually expect to see them losing the match while they are now the Europa League champion even after the poor performance we saw from this team and inexperienced and infamous coach they have.

Usually, if you bet on the moneyline then it is only valid for 90 minutes i.e. extra time and penalty shootouts are not included. So, even if for example you bet the moneyline yesterday for Manchester United and because the final result in 90 minutes is a draw, then you lose not because of Sevilla either because after all nobody wins and loses in 2x45 minutes. Except, if you continue the live bet when the match continues into extra time and or, maybe you bet with the winning team option and choose Manchester United, then you really lose because of Sevilla.

You are right, the moneyline bet will only be valid for 2x45 minutes, when the match must continue in extra time then it will not be counted in the bet, which means we have lost the bet. But sometimes most people misunderstand this. In fact, I'm not talking about other people, because usually I also often forget about the bets I take part in.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 02, 2023, 06:48:09 PM

Again I lost the bet in the game with Sevilla, usually whenever I bet on a match in which one team is playing against Sevilla I lose the beat and I think that's mostly because Sevilla is an unpredictable team and I usually expect to see them losing the match while they are now the Europa League champion even after the poor performance we saw from this team and inexperienced and infamous coach they have.

You should be able to be calmer in making betting choices in important matches like this European league final and it can also be seen that the bookie also gives almost the same odds for the two teams to win. I also bet on this match but I wasn't in a hurry because I made a bet in the second half and seeing Roma take the lead first in the first half made me very sure to bet on over 1.5 goals

Luckily Sevilla got their first goal of the second half even though it was an own goal from Roma's Mancini. But at least I'm quite happy with the result even though there is no winner in the normal 90 minutes. Therefore, you should be more careful when making bets, especially since the odds look suspicious and it seems that the match will end in a draw.

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Quote from: Naficopa on June 03, 2023, 03:22:14 AM

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Jose moriho have done really wrong and his action is going to affect his carrier as its strictly stated that players, caosch, referee harassments are accompanied by haevy section in the international football laws and this will strictly be applied in Moriho's case against the referee.

You are right. It is really a wrong action. But I'm not surprise at all, Morinho is a controversial manager, it is not the first time he did the same case. He is a typical coach who seems difficult to control emotion. Although he got a big sanction, I doubt it can change his behaviour. Well, so far, there is no significant impact on his career. But if the sanction to ban him managing any team temporarily, it may give big impact on him.

Mourinho made a mistake in behaving in that way, so much so that UEFA has opened an investigation into him and the events that took place in the stands of the stadium, but strangely they don't investigate the gross errors that happened on the playing field. Mourinho was certainly wrong in not keeping his emotions at bay, but would you have kept silent in his place? when Sevilla are missing 2 red cards and no clear penalties are awarded? without ever asking the var? I think any of us in that situation would have been delusional

Roma team is doing something wrong in every match. As a result, the position of this team is not good in other leagues outside the Europa League. The team players are deteriorating day by day instead of improving. I really don't know what coach Mourinho thinks about the team, this team needs to find something great soon.

Roma performance this season not very impressive not only in Europa League but also on their home league. I was expecting Roma to have won the Europa League but they didn't succeed against Sevilla. Morinho needs to work on his boys, it so sad roma could not play well in the finals game.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 02, 2023, 06:48:09 PM

Again I lost the bet in the game with Sevilla, usually whenever I bet on a match in which one team is playing against Sevilla I lose the beat and I think that's mostly because Sevilla is an unpredictable team and I usually expect to see them losing the match while they are now the Europa League champion even after the poor performance we saw from this team and inexperienced and infamous coach they have.

Sevilla is very unpredictable team and sometimes when you are sure they will lose the game but the result shocks you. I think they play their games with different strategies and that's why predicting them might be a hard thing for anyone. This time they won the final by beating Roma, and that wasn't expected at all by the fans of Roma.

The coach trusted the team and gave them courage that they are strong enough to win against the competitor, and the team showed the true spirit of his belief. In hard times a trust is more than enough for a team to bring the true potential in the players and the same happened in this case.

The team is known for winning Europa League final every time and this time they continued they winning streak. Even under José Mourinho they have shown that they have the potential to win, and winning is enough to prove that they're still very competitive and no one can take the final trophy from them.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 02, 2023, 06:48:09 PM

Again I lost the bet in the game with Sevilla, usually whenever I bet on a match in which one team is playing against Sevilla I lose the beat and I think that's mostly because Sevilla is an unpredictable team and I usually expect to see them losing the match while they are now the Europa League champion even after the poor performance we saw from this team and inexperienced and infamous coach they have.

Usually, if you bet on the moneyline then it is only valid for 90 minutes i.e. extra time and penalty shootouts are not included. So, even if for example you bet the moneyline yesterday for Manchester United and because the final result in 90 minutes is a draw, then you lose not because of Sevilla either because after all nobody wins and loses in 2x45 minutes. Except, if you continue the live bet when the match continues into extra time and or, maybe you bet with the winning team option and choose Manchester United, then you really lose because of Sevilla.

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Quote from: nurilham on June 02, 2023, 04:59:14 PM

You are right. It is really a wrong action. But I'm not surprise at all, Morinho is a controversial manager, it is not the first time he did the same case. He is a typical coach who seems difficult to control emotion. Although he got a big sanction, I doubt it can change his behaviour. Well, so far, there is no significant impact on his career. But if the sanction to ban him managing any team temporarily, it may give big impact on him.

That will be way too much for him to handle, this can cause him more emotional damage and trauma. Temporarily suspending him not to manage any team will be a big clampdown to his career. The sanction already given to him should serve and be able to make him realise his wrongs to the referee.

Football is a game of joy, laughter, happiness and also accompanied with a lot of disappointments too. Being able to control your emotion as a football player or manager when you lose a match is a sign of discipline and can earn you more respect in the football community.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on June 03, 2023, 02:53:14 AM

Quote from: nurilham on June 02, 2023, 04:59:14 PM

Quote from: RILWAN on June 02, 2023, 04:36:54 PM

Jose moriho have done really wrong and his action is going to affect his carrier as its strictly stated that players, caosch, referee harassments are accompanied by haevy section in the international football laws and this will strictly be applied in Moriho's case against the referee.

You are right. It is really a wrong action. But I'm not surprise at all, Morinho is a controversial manager, it is not the first time he did the same case. He is a typical coach who seems difficult to control emotion. Although he got a big sanction, I doubt it can change his behaviour. Well, so far, there is no significant impact on his career. But if the sanction to ban him managing any team temporarily, it may give big impact on him.

Mourinho made a mistake in behaving in that way, so much so that UEFA has opened an investigation into him and the events that took place in the stands of the stadium, but strangely they don't investigate the gross errors that happened on the playing field. Mourinho was certainly wrong in not keeping his emotions at bay, but would you have kept silent in his place? when Sevilla are missing 2 red cards and no clear penalties are awarded? without ever asking the var? I think any of us in that situation would have been delusional

Mourinho always makes a drama out of everything and that is typical of him and his character.
However, he created unnecessary nervousness among his players and actually hurt their chances of winning the final.
Roma had a great chance to settle the match in the regular part and win and thus avoid the penalty shootout, but it didn't work, and somehow I had the feeling that the Sevilla players were calmer and had more chances to take penalties, and that turned out to be correct.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on June 03, 2023, 02:53:14 AM

Mourinho made a mistake in behaving in that way, so much so that UEFA has opened an investigation into him and the events that took place in the stands of the stadium, but strangely they don't investigate the gross errors that happened on the playing field. Mourinho was certainly wrong in not keeping his emotions at bay, but would you have kept silent in his place? when Sevilla are missing 2 red cards and no clear penalties are awarded? without ever asking the var? I think any of us in that situation would have been delusional

as I said earlier, the emotional situation that Mourinho experienced was very natural when he felt that the referee unfairly gave policy to Roma. so I can't blame Mourinho because he stood up for the truth that he thinks is true.
to be honest, actually from the start before the game started I talked to my friend that if the European league final used the referee Anthony Taylor it seemed he did not agree because surely there would be a problem that would occur in the stadium later and in the end it was true that there was a little unfairness on the field which made the coach of Roma angry.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on June 03, 2023, 02:53:14 AM

Quote from: nurilham on June 02, 2023, 04:59:14 PM

Quote from: RILWAN on June 02, 2023, 04:36:54 PM

Jose moriho have done really wrong and his action is going to affect his carrier as its strictly stated that players, caosch, referee harassments are accompanied by haevy section in the international football laws and this will strictly be applied in Moriho's case against the referee.

You are right. It is really a wrong action. But I'm not surprise at all, Morinho is a controversial manager, it is not the first time he did the same case. He is a typical coach who seems difficult to control emotion. Although he got a big sanction, I doubt it can change his behaviour. Well, so far, there is no significant impact on his career. But if the sanction to ban him managing any team temporarily, it may give big impact on him.

Mourinho made a mistake in behaving in that way, so much so that UEFA has opened an investigation into him and the events that took place in the stands of the stadium, but strangely they don't investigate the gross errors that happened on the playing field. Mourinho was certainly wrong in not keeping his emotions at bay, but would you have kept silent in his place? when Sevilla are missing 2 red cards and no clear penalties are awarded? without ever asking the var? I think any of us in that situation would have been delusional

Roma team is doing something wrong in every match. As a result, the position of this team is not good in other leagues outside the Europa League. The team players are deteriorating day by day instead of improving. I really don't know what coach Mourinho thinks about the team, this team needs to find something great soon.

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Quote from: nurilham on June 02, 2023, 04:59:14 PM

Quote from: RILWAN on June 02, 2023, 04:36:54 PM

Jose moriho have done really wrong and his action is going to affect his carrier as its strictly stated that players, caosch, referee harassments are accompanied by haevy section in the international football laws and this will strictly be applied in Moriho's case against the referee.

You are right. It is really a wrong action. But I'm not surprise at all, Morinho is a controversial manager, it is not the first time he did the same case. He is a typical coach who seems difficult to control emotion. Although he got a big sanction, I doubt it can change his behaviour. Well, so far, there is no significant impact on his career. But if the sanction to ban him managing any team temporarily, it may give big impact on him.

Mourinho made a mistake in behaving in that way, so much so that UEFA has opened an investigation into him and the events that took place in the stands of the stadium, but strangely they don't investigate the gross errors that happened on the playing field. Mourinho was certainly wrong in not keeping his emotions at bay, but would you have kept silent in his place? when Sevilla are missing 2 red cards and no clear penalties are awarded? without ever asking the var? I think any of us in that situation would have been delusional

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