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June 01, 2023, 04:04:32 PM
I guess Gianluca Mancini is not in a good situation at all and after the own goal Gianluca Mancini tried to even have a better performance and help his teams to maybe score another goal and take the game back but the fact about Sevila us they were lucky enough during this season in Europa League to finally win the title.
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June 01, 2023, 03:55:58 PM
It was a pretty bad day for Mancini in this match because apart from scoring a return goal for his own club, he was also one of the kickers who failed in the penalty shootout.
Now everything has happened and they have to get back to focusing on the near-term competition that will happen in the last week for Serie A because they also still have a chance to be in the Europa League next season.
The own goal that occurred through Gianluca Mancini was very profitable for Sevilla, because if it had not happened to Mancini, AS Roma would have won the Europa League this season. But it was very unfortunate because AS Roma had to lose in the final this time on penalties, so that made the AS Roma coach feel a little disappointed about this. Because AS Roma has fought very well in the final this time even though it was not lucky enough to win this season in the Europa League.
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June 01, 2023, 03:44:52 PM
Sevilla is still pressuring Roma to score their second goal and Navas is outstanding in his wing,he is a big problem to Roma defense as he equalized the goal for Sevilla. The match is at its peak and I think that Roma  can't withstand the pressure from Sevilla. Sevilla was almost given a penalty but it was canceled by the Referee as Ocampus wasn't knocked down in the box. There is big hope for Sevilla to win this match because they are taking the match so serious and they are very confident.

That decision about a penalty to be given or not for Sevilla was totally correct. Because it was clear that there was only a touch to the ball by the Roma defender and that was all. While we we are closing in on the final whistle of regular time I don't think we will see a last-minute goal. None of the teams would be willing to take a big risk in a critical moment like this because it would be really difficult to make up for it.

Even in extra time I don't expect the tie to be broken. Players would like to play more carefully and keep the match balanced as much as possible. If we see a goal then it would come by a counter-attack I guess. I think we will watch penalty shoot-outs and I think Roma will win the title after this.

Quite a possibility, but I have noticed that Roma's players are already very tired, which is not the case with Sevilla, all they do is go on the attack. Yes, not as fiercely, but still going and maybe they'll get the better of their opponents in extra time. Remarkable that none of the coaches have used all the substitutions, especially Mourinho who has a lot of players with yellow cards, he has a lot of confidence in his players
Both Roma and Sevilla are being very careful at this stage of the finals. It is about 100mins of the match and it appears that Roma players are more tired than Sevilla players because Sevilla players are pushing more attack than the Roma players in this first half of the extra time.
I believe Mourinho will have to defend this match till it will enter to penalty kick.
I really want Mourinho to win this cup for Roma as Sevilla has had so much of this title

I wanted to too, but alas, it didn't happen. But there is an excuse for that, I don't understand why such inexperienced players from Roma's side took the penalty, did Mourinho want to give them a chance? Not only did they not use it, but they let the team down... OK, the reality is that a penalty shootout is almost always roulette, so there's no point in blaming the players for that
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June 01, 2023, 03:38:43 PM
Roma coach José Mourinho may not have had his players practice penalties before the final match, which is why Roma failed so badly in penalties. Our regional tournaments are also full of competitive penalties but we didn't see anything like that from Roma against Sevilla. It is a normal rule that one team will win the game and one team will lose but what Roma did in the UEL final match was really unexpected for us. Roma have been great on the field but such a poor performance from them in the penalty shootout has really disappointed many fans. The outcome of this match could have been a little different.

I don't think so. I think a manager like Mourinho would never overlook the possibility of this final match to end by penalties. Because his strategy in this kind of matches is mostly defending rather than attacking. He doesn't want to take big risks unless there is a big need. He must have practiced some penalties also with his players because of that.

But the inevitable fact is that nothing can be certain for you no matter how hard you work on something. Basically Roma players weren't having a good day for penalties. Actually the missed penalties weren't weak ones but the goalkeeper Bono was just impressive with his prediction and saving skills.

Mourinho's series of not losing in the finales is gone now.
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June 01, 2023, 03:36:52 PM
Can’t believe Sevilla did it again, that trophy really is theirs isn’t it.

Did anybody see the short video of Mourinho waiting in the carpark for the referee (Englishman Anthony Taylor).
https://twitter.com/centregoals/status/1664165315498876930

That trophy is ours next season (LFC).

I also read news about this, even a few years ago when he was still training Madrid, Mourinho did the same thing (waiting for the referee) when Madrid lost in the final, maybe this has become his habit LOL

Other news that doesn't wear is Mourinho throwing the runner-up medal into the stands, many speculate he is not happy with the results that Rome got.

congrats once again Sevilla, the fans celebrating their favorite team's win on the street.
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June 01, 2023, 03:30:26 PM
It was an interesting game last night, both team played like a champions. this is how a final game should be, i just felt bad for coach Mourinho for looking his first European final,  Sevilla has again shown that they own this cup, winning it for eight times is something amazing, it was a beautiful night for the Spanish club.

penalty is a lucky game, any team can have it, i don't blame any players for missing the penalties.
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June 01, 2023, 03:29:40 PM
Roma are really good at defending, but have difficulty building attacks because Sevilla has put strong pressure since Roma have won 1 goal. Roma were also fortunate in that Sevilla were not awarded penalty after the referee reviewed the VAR for an unconsidered offence. The result of the match is determined fairly because both teams must determine their status in the penalty round. Congratulations to Sevilla on their 7th Europa League title, I expected it.
Defense is Jose Mourinho's strength in big matches like this and that is evidenced by the statistics of possession of the ball that Sevilla has and the several attacks that have been created, but because Rome's defense is so solid it makes it difficult for Sevilla to score goals. But unfortunately Mancini made a mistake due to an own goal in the 55th minute, thus opening up opportunities for Sevilla to continue to suppress the Roman defense. The several yellow cards obtained in the first half made the Roma players a little more careful to avoid a second yellow card.

Luckily the referee canceled the penalty for Sevilla after checking the VAR, thus giving Roma another chance in the rest of the game, but until normal time and extra time no more goals were scored so a penalty shootout became Sevilla's winning scenario. I agree with you regardless of the controversy over the referee in charge of the match but I think Sevilla deserved this trophy.
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June 01, 2023, 03:09:35 PM
It was a bad management from the referee yesterday night.Roma played better until the point Dybala was out for that Netherland attacker which was the worse player of the whole match in my opinion.The referee missed two clamorous penalties for Roma and one for Sevilla and the bad thing was that he kept saying "No penalty,no penalty",I wonder why UEFA let Premier League referees in such finals,they are not fit for when two teams of other nations play each other as they are used to another type of football in the Premier League,I am not saying they should not manage a final but not such type of referees who made the game go a different way.

I agree with you that they shouldn't use that kind of referee in a final because both teams will be focused on winning the league and will do whatever it takes to do so. Roma was very serious in the game yesterday because they knew Sevilla had the desire to win the Europa League. The first goal convinced me that Roma was fully prepared to defeat Sevilla; the only thing Sevilla has was luck.
Roma really played well, and even Sevilla will believe that they just got lucky to win the game, therefore it is not terrible that they didn't win the game since the game is either you win or you lose.

Roma are truly defeated by their own destiny. As luck would have it, Sevilla won the match surprisingly in Roma's hands.  At 55 minutes I couldn't believe myself. Because such a mistake in the final match was never expected from an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini. I didn't see Sevilla make much of an impact in the 90 minutes against Roma.  The match was tied at 1-1 despite an own goal but Roma had a disappointing performance on penalties. Only one short they got right and the rest were off target.
Yes mate, their luck didn't favor with them and the goalkeeper could not provide good support. The final match between Sevilla and Roma created huge excitement. Dybala scored 1 in the 34th minutes to give Roma ahead in the match. But that score was able to equalize with another goal through opponent team player Mancini. As a result, the match ended with Mancini 1 and Roma 1. Unfortunately when the game went to penalties Roma lost 4-1. It would have been acceptable if the loss had been 2-1 but when it was 4-1 the Roma crowd certainly did not take the defeat normally. In the final, the whole match was exciting but the ending was not good.
Roma coach José Mourinho may not have had his players practice penalties before the final match, which is why Roma failed so badly in penalties. Our regional tournaments are also full of competitive penalties but we didn't see anything like that from Roma against Sevilla. It is a normal rule that one team will win the game and one team will lose but what Roma did in the UEL final match was really unexpected for us. Roma have been great on the field but such a poor performance from them in the penalty shootout has really disappointed many fans. The outcome of this match could have been a little different.

I don't agree with you on this, I don't think the lost of Roma in the penalties came as a result of the coach Jose Mourinho not letting them practice penalty kick before the game. The game against Sevilla is not the first time Roma is playing penalty more over the players are professionals they ought to have learnt before now on how to play penalty kick but considering what has been said about penalties, it's a no man's game but rather a game of luck and Sevilla was lucky that the penalties ended in their favour even though Roma's penalty kick was very poor.

Move-in away from the penalty kick, Sevilla should have won the game before the penalties because they dominated the game but lacked the tactical finishing and Roma were good in the defense but lost a lot of scoring opportunities even though they were denied a clear penalty which was clearly seen as a hand ball in the box of the Sevilla.
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June 01, 2023, 02:45:36 PM
It is luck as well that is true, but sometimes there are penalties that can't be defended and that's also skill and full concentration and dedication. When a player hits the post he was nervous and the keeper didn't even have to defend. That is why some players are better at penalties than others. Roma's penalties were bad and that makes it a bad performance at the penalties and not bad luck at penalties. When both shoot their penalties equally well and the goalkeeper chooses the right corner one more time than the other goalkeeper, then it is more about luck.
Actually, when talking about luck, maybe there is. However, I believe more in the mental readiness and the players who are taken for penalty kicks, this is not luck. Taking a final kick, especially in the UEFA European League is not easy, it is more dramatic and the executors certainly have higher pressure. So, this is more about technical readiness, accuracy, and what is also important is their mentality. So, not solely because of bad luck or luck. In this case, it means that Sevilla is better prepared in several ways compared to Roma when it comes to determining the final winner of the UEFA European League.

And once again, congrats to Sevilla. This is really unexpected because how bad they were at the start of the season, even in the middle of the season, they are still playing very badly, especially in La Liga. But they can really prove that they are still worthy of being reckoned with, and won the UEFA European League this season.
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June 01, 2023, 02:35:16 PM
I didn't expect that AS Roma could only score 1 goal in a penalty shoot-out, and that is indeed a battle of luck that will make one of the clubs have to be satisfied with the result. If in the Champions League we have Real Madrid, then in the Europa League we have Sevilla.
I will speak a little out of the context of the Europa League, yes I really regret it when Sevilla in the domestic league cannot be like in the Europa League. In La Liga it looks like they are not strong enough to stay at the top. The previous 3 seasons they could always be in the top 4 of the standings, but this season they had to be knocked out by being in 11th place, even though that could still change in the last week, but still it was a decline they showed.
It seems that this proves that the quality of La Liga is starting to improve. Sevilla may not be able to appear in the Europa League if they fail to win this season. But the fInal against Roma was finished and Sevilla were champions. Roma did not play full defense like they did against Leverkusen. It seems that after a one-goal lead, Roma defended more. But Roma failed to play well the rest of the time even they made an own goal. Congratulations Sevilla you deserved to win, your game was better than Roma.
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June 01, 2023, 02:18:24 PM
I also saw Rome had played well enough but even though in the end Roma lost through the penalty shootout that would not make the defeat embarrassing, because the defeat through penalties did not look embarrassing, congratulations to Sevilla
I do agree with it. Roma has a chance to win the game but mancini has been ruining it. It's sevilla's luck. Roma must accept if sevilla is again winning europa league for the seventh time.
Roma didn't have strong mentality when it comes to the penalty against sevilla.

Roma were unlucky. Otherwise, an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini would not have made such a big mistake in such an important match. It was a ridiculous mistake. And Mancini shouldn't be blamed for that. He did not understand the movement of the ball properly. However, Roma's performance was quite good. But still, they can't win. It was Roma's misfortune. However, with Sevilla's performances this season, they deserve the title. The performance of Sevilla's players in the final was impressive.
From my own point of view,I don't think that Roma messed things up,it was just that they weren't lucky enough to be victorious and Sevilla has that luck,which was why they didn't make mistake in any of their PK. If you look at the game,the last PK was canceled after Roma's goalkeeper caught the ball,and it was replayed which the Argentine in the second time scored the PK to give his club the winner of this season Europa league. I don't see penalty as a weakness from the players who took them. I see penalty as a game of luck because the probability of winning any game with a penalty shoot out is 50-50.
Any club can lose in a penalty, even big clubs do. The penalty shootout is a game of luck, luck can shine on any club to win. It was Sevilla luck to win by a penalty against Roma by 4-1. Although Sevilla had the ball possession of the match by 67%, 19 total shots, and 3 shots on target while Roma had 33% of ball possession, 11 total shots, and 4 shots on target. This is the 7th time Sevilla is winning the Europa League, that makes them supreme in a Europa League while Roma had only won ones in 1990/1991
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June 01, 2023, 02:17:35 PM
It is not always right to hold everything to luck. Because even if Roma had lost 5-4 or 4-3 on penalties, it would have been accepted that Roma lost because of their bad luck. But while Roma lost 4-1 on penalties, it can be said that Roma lost because of their poor performance of goalkeeping. Roma's players were also very well prepared and played well throughout the game.  But eventually Roma lost due to poor goalkeeping

To be honest I'm pretty sure Sevilla can win the Europa League title this season as they managed to beat Manchester United in the second leg of the quarter final. I have been very impressed with their form since then and it has helped Sevilla come back from their La Liga slump. Sevilla then managed to beat Juventus who were in appearance a much better team, but in the end Sevilla actually won the match and they made it to the final.

In the final match against Rome, I also found Sevilla to have a good performance even though they were left behind by Paulo Dybala's goal. But in the end Roma had to make unforced errors in defense when preventing Sevilla's goal which led to an own goal. That was about the match though I admit that some of the refereeing decisions were not in favor of Roma last night.
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It is luck as well that is true, but sometimes there are penalties that can't be defended and that's also skill and full concentration and dedication. When a player hits the post he was nervous and the keeper didn't even have to defend. That is why some players are better at penalties than others. Roma's penalties were bad and that makes it a bad performance at the penalties and not bad luck at penalties. When both shoot their penalties equally well and the goalkeeper chooses the right corner one more time than the other goalkeeper, then it is more about luck.
Penalty is always for luck, Roma at the end of the match was clearly not against the penalty, because Sevilla dominated but as it turned out it did not help them. It was a good final, of course, there were some controversial moments, but in such matches it's normal, everyone wants to win and the referee try to be objective, but it's not so easy when there is pressure from players and fans, but it was a good match.
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June 01, 2023, 01:50:43 PM
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And I predict Mourinho will probably leave his job soon and will return to adventure with his new team next season.
won't. because I'm sure Mourinho still has great curiosity about Rome and decided to stay at Rome until his contract expires and I'm sure that in the next season Mourinho will prove that he is capable of giving the European league title because he still has another chance after successfully getting a ticket to the European league in the following year.
but if you read the rumors from some of the chats if suddenly Mourinho decides to leave Rome there will be a team that is ready to accept Mourinho as coach, namely PSG but I am still sure that Roma will also retain Mourinho to put their hopes on bringing him to the European league title. even though Roma did not win the European league title this season but still have a chance in the next season.
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June 01, 2023, 01:29:12 PM
It's a shame, especially about Gianluca Mancini who managed to create an assist for Dybala but Gianluca Mancini also scored an own goal. Also, I got some footage, it looks like Sevilla has quite the advantage because the referee doesn't seem to be on AS Roma's side. Because there was a moment when a Sevilla player had a hand ball in the penalty box, but the referee didn't make it a penalty because the hand ball occurred in the penalty box. If so, then Sevilla again and again get lucky because after all, if the referee made a fairer decision then it looks like AS Roma will still win until the end of the match with a score of 1-0 or 2-1.
It was a pretty bad day for Mancini in this match because apart from scoring a return goal for his own club, he was also one of the kickers who failed in the penalty shootout.
Now everything has happened and they have to get back to focusing on the near-term competition that will happen in the last week for Serie A because they also still have a chance to be in the Europa League next season.
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June 01, 2023, 01:15:32 PM
It was a bad management from the referee yesterday night.Roma played better until the point Dybala was out for that Netherland attacker which was the worse player of the whole match in my opinion.The referee missed two clamorous penalties for Roma and one for Sevilla and the bad thing was that he kept saying "No penalty,no penalty",I wonder why UEFA let Premier League referees in such finals,they are not fit for when two teams of other nations play each other as they are used to another type of football in the Premier League,I am not saying they should not manage a final but not such type of referees who made the game go a different way.

I agree with you that they shouldn't use that kind of referee in a final because both teams will be focused on winning the league and will do whatever it takes to do so. Roma was very serious in the game yesterday because they knew Sevilla had the desire to win the Europa League. The first goal convinced me that Roma was fully prepared to defeat Sevilla; the only thing Sevilla has was luck.
Roma really played well, and even Sevilla will believe that they just got lucky to win the game, therefore it is not terrible that they didn't win the game since the game is either you win or you lose.

Roma are truly defeated by their own destiny. As luck would have it, Sevilla won the match surprisingly in Roma's hands.  At 55 minutes I couldn't believe myself. Because such a mistake in the final match was never expected from an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini. I didn't see Sevilla make much of an impact in the 90 minutes against Roma.  The match was tied at 1-1 despite an own goal but Roma had a disappointing performance on penalties. Only one short they got right and the rest were off target.
Yes mate, their luck didn't favor with them and the goalkeeper could not provide good support. The final match between Sevilla and Roma created huge excitement. Dybala scored 1 in the 34th minutes to give Roma ahead in the match. But that score was able to equalize with another goal through opponent team player Mancini. As a result, the match ended with Mancini 1 and Roma 1. Unfortunately when the game went to penalties Roma lost 4-1. It would have been acceptable if the loss had been 2-1 but when it was 4-1 the Roma crowd certainly did not take the defeat normally. In the final, the whole match was exciting but the ending was not good.
Roma coach José Mourinho may not have had his players practice penalties before the final match, which is why Roma failed so badly in penalties. Our regional tournaments are also full of competitive penalties but we didn't see anything like that from Roma against Sevilla. It is a normal rule that one team will win the game and one team will lose but what Roma did in the UEL final match was really unexpected for us. Roma have been great on the field but such a poor performance from them in the penalty shootout has really disappointed many fans. The outcome of this match could have been a little different.
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June 01, 2023, 01:09:40 PM
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Sevilla are well experienced in this league and in playing the finals,they knew that it might end up to be a Penalty shoot out because the last three consecutive Europa league finals ended in a penalty shoot out. Sevilla has shown that they remain the best club and the most favourite in this league. The match was tougher than expected
Mourinho may not have predicted that the match would not go to penalties to determine who was the best. Why do I say that, because Mourinho took out Paulo Dybala and brought in Shaarawy late.
The last name I mentioned is often the decisive player in saving AS Roma.

And yes Sevilla is more experienced and better prepared in this competition than AS Roma apart from the luck factor because before the match against Sevilla, AS Roma was far from the positive results it had in the last 5 matches.

Dybala was substituted in the 68th minute because he was injured again, correct me if I'm wrong. IMO, that's why Jose Mourinho pulled him out. even before Dybala was taken off, it was already 1-1. Dybala was taken off in the 68th minute, while the score drew 1-1 in the 55th minute. even then, a blunder from Gianluca Mancini's mistake which made an own goal.
As for Shaarawy, he actually had enough playing time because the match continued in extra time. however, there was not a single chance he created. I will say that AS Roma was really unlucky in this match, even though they were ahead by Dybala's goal in the 35th minute. it's a shame, the match continued in a penalty shootout and in the end As Roma fell.

On the contrary, Sevilla's victory was not because they performed well in this match. except, Bono's performance did look very good. the rest, not many Seville players have performed well apart from Rakitic and Jesus Navas. I will say Sevilla was very lucky to win this final, but not because they have a lot of experience in this competition. without the Roma defender's own goal, perhaps the situation would have been different. But this is football, anything can happen on the pitch. and, no other words but congratulations to Sevilla.
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June 01, 2023, 01:03:03 PM
Roma were unlucky. Otherwise, an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini would not have made such a big mistake in such an important match. It was a ridiculous mistake. And Mancini shouldn't be blamed for that. He did not understand the movement of the ball properly. However, Roma's performance was quite good. But still, they can't win. It was Roma's misfortune. However, with Sevilla's performances this season, they deserve the title. The performance of Sevilla's players in the final was impressive.
From my own point of view,I don't think that Roma messed things up,it was just that they weren't lucky enough to be victorious and Sevilla has that luck,which was why they didn't make mistake in any of their PK. If you look at the game,the last PK was canceled after Roma's goalkeeper caught the ball,and it was replayed which the Argentine in the second time scored the PK to give his club the winner of this season Europa league. I don't see penalty as a weakness from the players who took them. I see penalty as a game of luck because the probability of winning any game with a penalty shoot out is 50-50.
I think they backed off a lot, and that is a signature move by Mourinho so I wasn't shocked but they didn't keep the possession a lot neither, and they didn't even had any proper counter attacking. The purpose of parking the bus is the fact that when the other team attacks, if you do not give them an inch, they will have to bring in everyone, otherwise just 3-4 attackers will not beat your 11 guys, so all of the other team comes, even their defenders are mostly beyond the halfway line, so they are 10 man all on your field.

In return of this, while it's risky and you may get scored, you have fast 2 wingers and one good attacker, and when you get the ball you take off and try to beat their defender and score on a counter attack. Roma didn't do that, they just laid back and let Sevilla attack, that's their trouble and eventually they lost.
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June 01, 2023, 12:59:07 PM
I would say Roma lost because of bad luck. Teams can't win unless they have good luck in the penalty shootout. I have seen many experienced goalkeepers in the past not perform well in the penalty shootout and the team lost as a result. However, the penalty shootout will become more exciting if Roma's goalkeeper performs a bit better. At the same time, Roma had to concede the goal due to Mancini's error. It was also completely unexpected. If Mancini hadn't made a mistake, maybe Roma would have won 1-0 and been champions. It is for these reasons that I say Roma can't be champions entirely due to bad luck.

It is luck as well that is true, but sometimes there are penalties that can't be defended and that's also skill and full concentration and dedication. When a player hits the post he was nervous and the keeper didn't even have to defend. That is why some players are better at penalties than others. Roma's penalties were bad and that makes it a bad performance at the penalties and not bad luck at penalties. When both shoot their penalties equally well and the goalkeeper chooses the right corner one more time than the other goalkeeper, then it is more about luck.
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June 01, 2023, 12:58:56 PM
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Mourinho may not have predicted that the match would not go to penalties to determine who was the best. Why do I say that, because Mourinho took out Paulo Dybala and brought in Shaarawy late.
The last name I mentioned is often the decisive player in saving AS Roma.

And yes Sevilla is more experienced and better prepared in this competition than AS Roma apart from the luck factor because before the match against Sevilla, AS Roma was far from the positive results it had in the last 5 matches.
And in the end Sevilla was able to prove themselves and break all assumptions that they are not a better team than Roma. Sevilla's experience in the Europa League has been great even though I agree they can still be beaten by better teams, but with Roma I think Sevilla is still the best in terms of performance. Sevilla did make Roma have to work hard to defend their goal without conceding and because of that Roma tend to have difficulty developing their game.

I agree that Sevilla are the kings of the Europa League after winning their 7th title of the season. Several media have stated that the Sevilla League is no longer the Europa League because the Spanish team has won every final they have reached so far.
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