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Quote from: Joca97 on June 01, 2023, 09:08:27 AM

Sevilla didnt stop attacking the entire match and deserved the win in the end. But i think Roma got badly damaged by the refs. I dont understand the refs that was a clear handball in the end of full time for Roma. If they gaved them the penalty the match could have gone in a different way

It is not only about the missing penalty for Roma but also about referee decisions in the first half. He gave Roma some yellow cards with unclear reasons, the yellow card for Pellegrini is correct but how about a same for Sevilla and Campos should be given a yellow card because he tried to get a penalty. Then the yellow card for Mancini when a Sevilla player pulled his skirt and torn it, weird. Another card for Cristante for stupid reason only the referee knows but I am not sure it happened in the first half or the second half.

Those cards caused a lot of issues for Roma players and they had to play how to avoid a second yellow card means a red card. At least the referee is right by checking VAR, then refuse a penalty for Sevilla. I am sure without VAR, that will be a penalty because Ibanez only touched the ball shortly before he touched Sevilla player.

However, at the end he refused a penalty for Roma and even did not check VAR is not right in my opinion.

Combine all those situations, I think Mourinho is right to call the referee is like a Spanish referee.

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Sevilla team win yet again the europa league crowning themselves kings of this competition it was a good final both teams had multiple goal chances and either one could've been the champion but unlucky for roma, sevilla goalkeeper bono showed a great performance especially in the penalties and he allowed his team to win the title by stoping two of them.

Sevilla didnt stop attacking the entire match and deserved the win in the end. But i think Roma got badly damaged by the refs. I dont understand the refs that was a clear handball in the end of full time for Roma. If they gaved them the penalty the match could have gone in a different way

Congratulations to Sevilla for winning the Europa League this season by beating AS Roma on penalties. Again and again Sevilla proves itself that they are one of the best clubs in the Europa League by winning again. Actually from the start they weren't many favorites because previously they faced Juventus and Manchester United, but they were able to get rid of them one by one and in the end they managed to lift the trophy. At the same time their success will lead them to the Champions League next season, even if they do not get a place in La Liga.

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Quote from: hahay on June 01, 2023, 08:52:57 AM

It's a shame, especially about Gianluca Mancini who managed to create an assist for Dybala but Gianluca Mancini also scored an own goal. Also, I got some footage, it looks like Sevilla has quite the advantage because the referee doesn't seem to be on AS Roma's side. Because there was a moment when a Sevilla player had a hand ball in the penalty box, but the referee didn't make it a penalty because the hand ball occurred in the penalty box. If so, then Sevilla again and again get lucky because after all, if the referee made a fairer decision then it looks like AS Roma will still win until the end of the match with a score of 1-0 or 2-1.

The match was very well played and both teams were very active due to which there was no goal gap between them even after a long period of play. Which eventually led to a penalty shootout but Roma lost the final match due to the weakness and inattention of Roma's goalkeeper during the penalty shootout. This is Roma's failure. But Sevilla were not a weak side as we can say they won on penalties by virtue of luck. Sevilla have also beaten Roma several times in their previous matches. So I think the result of the match is fair

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Quote from: hahay on June 01, 2023, 08:52:57 AM

It's a shame, especially about Gianluca Mancini who managed to create an assist for Dybala but Gianluca Mancini also scored an own goal. Also, I got some footage, it looks like Sevilla has quite the advantage because the referee doesn't seem to be on AS Roma's side. Because there was a moment when a Sevilla player had a hand ball in the penalty box, but the referee didn't make it a penalty because the hand ball occurred in the penalty box. If so, then Sevilla again and again get lucky because after all, if the referee made a fairer decision then it looks like AS Roma will still win until the end of the match with a score of 1-0 or 2-1.

That's an interesting allegation against the referee, but I have heard that the talks between the referee on the pitch and the VARs are recorded. If the VAR sees a hand ball, the referee would have to be 100% sure about his decision and actively refuse to check it on the monitor. I don't think that happened.

You could also argue that there was a foul before Dybala scored the goal. In the midfield the Sevilla player was held back for a moment by a Roma player with his hands. I wouldn't say it is a foul and the goal was correct, I just wanted to point out that the referee could have made a decision against Roma and he didn't.

This game wasn't really one of those cases where the referee decided who is going to win. There will always be some decisions that the fans argue about, but there have been games that were much worse. In this game I think the referee was ok. They all went all out all the time during the game. It wasn't simple for the referee and yet he kept the control over the game.

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Quote from: Ratash on June 01, 2023, 08:27:00 AM

Sevilla team win yet again the europa league crowning themselves kings of this competition it was a good final both teams had multiple goal chances and either one could've been the champion but unlucky for roma, sevilla goalkeeper bono showed a great performance especially in the penalties and he allowed his team to win the title by stoping two of them.

Sevilla didnt stop attacking the entire match and deserved the win in the end. But i think Roma got badly damaged by the refs. I dont understand the refs that was a clear handball in the end of full time for Roma. If they gaved them the penalty the match could have gone in a different way

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 01, 2023, 07:04:46 AM

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I see penalty as a game of luck because the probability of winning any game with a penalty shoot out is 50-50.

Roma became unlucky when they prepared to force play with normal time. several key players had to be substituted and when they faced coercion to shootouts, Roma lost their shooter.
however, Sevilla was better prepared and had more luck with this incredible final scenario. Congrats to Sevilla and all the fans. Sevilla showed they are not finished this season.

Substitution players is not more than strategy purposes that because the match have to ended with extra time and penalty shootout so Mourinho want to ensure Roma players fitness in the good shape and replace some players who cannot performing well is necessary and i think it's normal in my opinion Roma were performing well and they were successfully to make Sevilla players is hard to penetrate their defense and Roma too good to utilized counter attack strategy

But indeed penalty shootout has different atmosphere that only the team with champion mentally who can able to do it and Sevilla has been prove it that although they changing coach but it doesn't have any affect to their performance in this competition and regardless referee controversial decision but Sevilla now is the king of europa league and it cannot be denial

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It's a shame, especially about Gianluca Mancini who managed to create an assist for Dybala but Gianluca Mancini also scored an own goal. Also, I got some footage, it looks like Sevilla has quite the advantage because the referee doesn't seem to be on AS Roma's side. Because there was a moment when a Sevilla player had a hand ball in the penalty box, but the referee didn't make it a penalty because the hand ball occurred in the penalty box. If so, then Sevilla again and again get lucky because after all, if the referee made a fairer decision then it looks like AS Roma will still win until the end of the match with a score of 1-0 or 2-1.

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It was a bad management from the referee yesterday night.Roma played better until the point Dybala was out for that Netherland attacker which was the worse player of the whole match in my opinion.The referee missed two clamorous penalties for Roma and one for Sevilla and the bad thing was that he kept saying "No penalty,no penalty",I wonder why UEFA let Premier League referees in such finals,they are not fit for when two teams of other nations play each other as they are used to another type of football in the Premier League,I am not saying they should not manage a final but not such type of referees who made the game go a different way.

I agree with you that they shouldn't use that kind of referee in a final because both teams will be focused on winning the league and will do whatever it takes to do so. Roma was very serious in the game yesterday because they knew Sevilla had the desire to win the Europa League. The first goal convinced me that Roma was fully prepared to defeat Sevilla; the only thing Sevilla has was luck.
Roma really played well, and even Sevilla will believe that they just got lucky to win the game, therefore it is not terrible that they didn't win the game since the game is either you win or you lose.

Roma are truly defeated by their own destiny. As luck would have it, Sevilla won the match surprisingly in Roma's hands. At 55 minutes I couldn't believe myself. Because such a mistake in the final match was never expected from an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini. I didn't see Sevilla make much of an impact in the 90 minutes against Roma. The match was tied at 1-1 despite an own goal but Roma had a disappointing performance on penalties. Only one short they got right and the rest were off target.

In the whole match, there was a lot of fighting between these two teams. But Roma lost on penalties. It is normal for one team to lose and one team to win a match. However, Roma's 4-1 loss on penalties was a sad affair. This was due to the weakness of Roma's goalkeeper. And because of this, Roma had to leave the field in shame. Sevilla's goalkeeper was very active and they won the match very well which is a big gain for them. Sevilla vs Roma last five matches Sevilla won 3 matches and Roma won only one. This proves that Sevilla is a better team than Roma

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Quote from: HajiBagi on June 01, 2023, 04:16:21 AM

Quote from: swogerino on June 01, 2023, 02:51:54 AM

It was a bad management from the referee yesterday night.Roma played better until the point Dybala was out for that Netherland attacker which was the worse player of the whole match in my opinion.The referee missed two clamorous penalties for Roma and one for Sevilla and the bad thing was that he kept saying "No penalty,no penalty",I wonder why UEFA let Premier League referees in such finals,they are not fit for when two teams of other nations play each other as they are used to another type of football in the Premier League,I am not saying they should not manage a final but not such type of referees who made the game go a different way.

I agree with you that they shouldn't use that kind of referee in a final because both teams will be focused on winning the league and will do whatever it takes to do so. Roma was very serious in the game yesterday because they knew Sevilla had the desire to win the Europa League. The first goal convinced me that Roma was fully prepared to defeat Sevilla; the only thing Sevilla has was luck.
Roma really played well, and even Sevilla will believe that they just got lucky to win the game, therefore it is not terrible that they didn't win the game since the game is either you win or you lose.

Roma are truly defeated by their own destiny. As luck would have it, Sevilla won the match surprisingly in Roma's hands. At 55 minutes I couldn't believe myself. Because such a mistake in the final match was never expected from an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini. I didn't see Sevilla make much of an impact in the 90 minutes against Roma. The match was tied at 1-1 despite an own goal but Roma had a disappointing performance on penalties. Only one short they got right and the rest were off target.

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Sevilla team win yet again the europa league crowning themselves kings of this competition it was a good final both teams had multiple goal chances and either one could've been the champion but unlucky for roma, sevilla goalkeeper bono showed a great performance especially in the penalties and he allowed his team to win the title by stoping two of them.

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To be honest, I'm quite upset with the outcome of this match even though a draw doesn't affect my bet to still be able to make money betting the handicap for Rome's lead. However, what disappointed me was that the decision of the referee Antony Taylor was very controversial, we also often see this British referee also often make judgment errors like in EPL matches and many English clubs are also victims. Roma should have received a penalty in the 80th minute, but Antony Taylor was reluctant to see VAR to confirm the Sevilla player's handball.

With events like that, in my opinion, Roma's chances of winning the European league this season are certain to fail, especially if it goes until the penalty shootout, it's clear that Sevilla will be favored because they have one of the best goalkeepers in last year's world cup, namely Yassine Bounou. Roma have to get up and can't be sad about this defeat, they will still be able to try again next season. Back again, congrats to Sevilla for winning the European league this season.

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Quote from: Frankolala on June 01, 2023, 07:38:15 AM

Sevilla are well experienced in this league and in playing the finals,they knew that it might end up to be a Penalty shoot out because the last three consecutive Europa league finals ended in a penalty shoot out. Sevilla has shown that they remain the best club and the most favourite in this league. The match was tougher than expected

Sevilla Goalkeeper was such an intimidating figure in the penalty shoot out for Roma. He has a very good penalty record and is very experienced in penalty situations. What I was able to observe from the penalty shoot out was that the Sevilla players were more confident maybe because they have won the competition that way before than the Roma players who were not confident. Mourinho's good record of winning finals has now been spoilt by Sevilla. Sevilla have gotten qualification for the Champions league that they don't stay long enough in anytime they get in.

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Sevilla has won a total of 7 Europa League in total of 18 seasons that they played in the league. They played a well disciplined football as they were so much conserved and more agree than Roma. Even when their hit man Acuna is absent in the match because of the red card he conceived in the previous Europa League match, they still played optimally well.
I have nothing much to say, than Congratulations Sevilla

The victory in the Europa League final beating AS Roma on penalties made Sevilla worthy of the title of King of the UEFA Europa League with the acquisition of 7 trophies.
Sevilla showed AS Roma how they fight when they were left behind through Paulo Dybala's goal.
They showed effort without giving up so that they controlled almost 70% ball possession.
In my opinion, Mourinho's strategy of choosing to play defensively in the final failed.

Sevilla's success won their seventh UEFA Europa League trophy, as well as thwarting Jose Mourinho's efforts to celebrate two UEFA Europa League titles.
Congratulations to Sevilla as champions.

You are right, Sevilla was more prepared for the trophy than Roma because Sevilla fought till the end and they never gave up their strength and zeal to win the match. Roma played as if they didn't put into consideration that the match might exceed 90mins,thinking that they will win Sevilla so easy, but Mourinho knew that it wouldn't be an easy task to win Sevilla that was why he wasn't happy even when Dybala scores the first goal in the match.

Sevilla are well experienced in this league and in playing the finals,they knew that it might end up to be a Penalty shoot out because the last three consecutive Europa league finals ended in a penalty shoot out. Sevilla has shown that they remain the best club and the most favourite in this league. The match was tougher than expected

Sevilla's team goalkeeper was very good and clever. And because of that they won by a high goal margin on penalties. Losing 4-1 on penalties was an embarrassment for Roma. Roma's goalkeeper let Roma down in the final match. Sevilla were lucky to score so well on penalties. The biggest credit for Sevilla being champions is their goalkeeper. The match was a 1-1 draw in the whole game. After playing the match for such a long time, losing the match on penalties is very painful which Roma understood very well

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Sevilla have done well, their nerves have been tougher than Mourinho's team. They failed in La Liga, but they made up for it in Europa League and will play in the Champions League next season.
Roma played decently, a bit sorry for them. Sevilla, however, were certainly no worse.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 01, 2023, 07:04:46 AM

Quote from: Merit.s on June 01, 2023, 06:13:28 AM

I see penalty as a game of luck because the probability of winning any game with a penalty shoot out is 50-50.

Roma became unlucky when they prepared to force play with normal time. several key players had to be substituted and when they faced coercion to shootouts, Roma lost their shooter.
however, Sevilla was better prepared and had more luck with this incredible final scenario. Congrats to Sevilla and all the fans. Sevilla showed they are not finished this season.

Mourinho major setback in that match was that he substituted good penalty shootout players like Abraham and Dybala though they are already tired having played out with all their strength and energy thus became exhausted, unfortunately players called out for the penalty shootout missed their opportunity, of course penalty shootout is a game of luck either of the side can win it, Mourinho had finally broke the record of never losing a final since winning his first trophy with Porto twenty years ago that is an incredible records, once again Sevilla kept their records of consistency in winning the Europa league cup intact congratulations to Navas for winning the trophy with Sevilla far back in 2006 now 2023.

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Quote from: aylabadia05 on June 01, 2023, 07:24:52 AM

Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 31, 2023, 06:10:24 PM

Sevilla has won a total of 7 Europa League in total of 18 seasons that they played in the league. They played a well disciplined football as they were so much conserved and more agree than Roma. Even when their hit man Acuna is absent in the match because of the red card he conceived in the previous Europa League match, they still played optimally well.
I have nothing much to say, than Congratulations Sevilla

The victory in the Europa League final beating AS Roma on penalties made Sevilla worthy of the title of King of the UEFA Europa League with the acquisition of 7 trophies.
Sevilla showed AS Roma how they fight when they were left behind through Paulo Dybala's goal.
They showed effort without giving up so that they controlled almost 70% ball possession.
In my opinion, Mourinho's strategy of choosing to play defensively in the final failed.

Sevilla's success won their seventh UEFA Europa League trophy, as well as thwarting Jose Mourinho's efforts to celebrate two UEFA Europa League titles.
Congratulations to Sevilla as champions.

You are right, Sevilla was more prepared for the trophy than Roma because Sevilla fought till the end and they never gave up their strength and zeal to win the match. Roma played as if they didn't put into consideration that the match might exceed 90mins,thinking that they will win Sevilla so easy, but Mourinho knew that it wouldn't be an easy task to win Sevilla that was why he wasn't happy even when Dybala scores the first goal in the match.

Sevilla are well experienced in this league and in playing the finals,they knew that it might end up to be a Penalty shoot out because the last three consecutive Europa league finals ended in a penalty shoot out. Sevilla has shown that they remain the best club and the most favourite in this league. The match was tougher than expected

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 31, 2023, 06:10:24 PM

Sevilla has won a total of 7 Europa League in total of 18 seasons that they played in the league. They played a well disciplined football as they were so much conserved and more agree than Roma. Even when their hit man Acuna is absent in the match because of the red card he conceived in the previous Europa League match, they still played optimally well.
I have nothing much to say, than Congratulations Sevilla

The victory in the Europa League final beating AS Roma on penalties made Sevilla worthy of the title of King of the UEFA Europa League with the acquisition of 7 trophies.
Sevilla showed AS Roma how they fight when they were left behind through Paulo Dybala's goal.
They showed effort without giving up so that they controlled almost 70% ball possession.
In my opinion, Mourinho's strategy of choosing to play defensively in the final failed.

Sevilla's success won their seventh UEFA Europa League trophy, as well as thwarting Jose Mourinho's efforts to celebrate two UEFA Europa League titles.
Congratulations to Sevilla as champions.

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Quote from: Merit.s on June 01, 2023, 06:13:28 AM

I see penalty as a game of luck because the probability of winning any game with a penalty shoot out is 50-50.

Roma became unlucky when they prepared to force play with normal time. several key players had to be substituted and when they faced coercion to shootouts, Roma lost their shooter.
however, Sevilla was better prepared and had more luck with this incredible final scenario. Congrats to Sevilla and all the fans. Sevilla showed they are not finished this season.

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I also saw Rome had played well enough but even though in the end Roma lost through the penalty shootout that would not make the defeat embarrassing, because the defeat through penalties did not look embarrassing, congratulations to Sevilla

I do agree with it. Roma has a chance to win the game but mancini has been ruining it. It's sevilla's luck. Roma must accept if sevilla is again winning europa league for the seventh time.
Roma didn't have strong mentality when it comes to the penalty against sevilla.

Roma were unlucky. Otherwise, an experienced player like Gianluca Mancini would not have made such a big mistake in such an important match. It was a ridiculous mistake. And Mancini shouldn't be blamed for that. He did not understand the movement of the ball properly. However, Roma's performance was quite good. But still, they can't win. It was Roma's misfortune. However, with Sevilla's performances this season, they deserve the title. The performance of Sevilla's players in the final was impressive.

From my own point of view,I don't think that Roma messed things up,it was just that they weren't lucky enough to be victorious and Sevilla has that luck,which was why they didn't make mistake in any of their PK. If you look at the game,the last PK was canceled after Roma's goalkeeper caught the ball,and it was replayed which the Argentine in the second time scored the PK to give his club the winner of this season Europa league. I don't see penalty as a weakness from the players who took them. I see penalty as a game of luck because the probability of winning any game with a penalty shoot out is 50-50.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on June 01, 2023, 04:16:21 AM

Quote from: swogerino on June 01, 2023, 02:51:54 AM

It was a bad management from the referee yesterday night.Roma played better until the point Dybala was out for that Netherland attacker which was the worse player of the whole match in my opinion.The referee missed two clamorous penalties for Roma and one for Sevilla and the bad thing was that he kept saying "No penalty,no penalty",I wonder why UEFA let Premier League referees in such finals,they are not fit for when two teams of other nations play each other as they are used to another type of football in the Premier League,I am not saying they should not manage a final but not such type of referees who made the game go a different way.

I agree with you that they shouldn't use that kind of referee in a final because both teams will be focused on winning the league and will do whatever it takes to do so. Roma was very serious in the game yesterday because they knew Sevilla had the desire to win the Europa League. The first goal convinced me that Roma was fully prepared to defeat Sevilla; the only thing Sevilla has was luck.
Roma really played well, and even Sevilla will believe that they just got lucky to win the game, therefore it is not terrible that they didn't win the game since the game is either you win or you lose.

Any football match is a stroke of luck. Especially it's a final and only one game instead of two. But I think Sevilla have played very well this season. They had really strong opponents, unlike Roma, who got to the final much easier. Therefore Sevilla's win is fair. Roma had their chances, but Sevilla were lucky.

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