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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 03, 2023, 02:20:33 AM

maybe Barcelona is very concentrated on La Liga. now is another opportunity they can't ignore for both of them after their UCL exit.
now Madrid also appears dominant in La Liga. if Xavi does not take advantage of the opportunities that exist, Barca may also lose hope for the La Liga trophy.
I still hope Barca will win the game against United. although team-wise we can see United looking better.

@Pandu Geddon I believe that Barcelona player’s will be distracted, because now De Jong has been rumoured to say that he wishes to leave Barcelona and join Manchester United. Furthermore Manchester United player’s are getting better and better with each game that they play, hence I expect them to defeat Barcelona easily and progress to the next round.

I highly doubt that is true. I mean we are talking about De Jong who has been asked by United at the start of the season and asked a lot, like constantly with higher and higher offers, because Erik Tan Hag really wanted him, and he declined, even when Barcelona wanted to get rid of his high salary, he still rejected and said wanted to stay in Barcelona.

Now after half a season is gone, he suddenly wants to leave to go to United? I really do not think that it will happen, I feel like it is not going to be serious. Maybe these are just rumours and it is not going to happen at all, we should not be expecting it to be possible at all, it is probably a lie.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2023, 06:26:02 AM

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Barcelona is currently not showing the best of performances. Because Barcelona has drawn the first match after the break. That was the match Barcelona really should have not drawn.

We also very well know, that Barcelona has some problems going on with the team. The team itself is not a very balanced one. You know, they are also unable to bring in any new players, any new good players right now in the team. That’s obviously because of the financial problems they are facing right now.

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

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Barcelona's only chance is that United will treat the Europa League as their second priority this season. There are all prerequisites for this - United are doing well in the Premier League and they have every chance of not only gaining a foothold in the top 4 but even climbing higher. Given the value of qualifying for the Champions League, this looks like a bigger deal than beating Barcelona. Winning the Europa League also gives a direct ticket to the Champions League but it is less "guaranteed" as there is a lot of randomness in the knockout games.

I have some level of trust in Manchester United to defeat Barcelona and knock them out of the Europa league. Manchester United have a history of playing very well against toughest of opponents just as they defeated PSG on several occasions and so far the only team to defeat Arsenal this season in the premier league, same way they will up their game against Barcelona and get the expected result in the game. Barcelona have a star studded squad but it definitely won't be easy competing against Manchester United.

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Ever since Ronaldo' left Manchester united, united have been playing all their games well with a good result. If I should compare the performance and challenge in both teams, I think Manchester United is better, all their player’s are doing better in performance.
Manchester united has already orove in their March during the weekend that they can do without Ronaldo.

I think Manchester United's performance is very independent of Ronaldo and this has nothing to do with Ronaldo because before Ronaldo left Manchester United, Ronaldo was also not fully played into the game, so Manchester United's appearance that has been seen so far was purely due to the efforts of the coach himself. who are still determined to change the way of playing for the better and now it is starting to show.

Rashford is a competent attacker before Ronaldo departed, so Manchester United would be fine statically with or without him. However, I can't speak of the club's internal matters or the players, especially how Eric has been backed by the management in his selections. Did you see what happened to Rashford last week when he was denied playing time against Nottingham Forest because he slept off? After seeing that, I started to believe everything Ronaldo said in the interview, it made me believe that Manchester United has an internal problem that they need to address especially now that they are bouncing back in every league they are playing.

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Ever since Ronaldo' left Manchester united, united have been playing all their games well with a good result. If I should compare the performance and challenge in both teams, I think Manchester United is better, all their player’s are doing better in performance.
Manchester united has already orove in their March during the weekend that they can do without Ronaldo.

I think Manchester United's performance is very independent of Ronaldo and this has nothing to do with Ronaldo because before Ronaldo left Manchester United, Ronaldo was also not fully played into the game, so Manchester United's appearance that has been seen so far was purely due to the efforts of the coach himself. who are still determined to change the way of playing for the better and now it is starting to show.

Yes indeed, the rise of Manchester United is purely from the way of coaching Erik ten Hag but still, whether Ronaldo is in the Manchester United squad or not still has a difference. Because when Ronaldo was still in the Manchester United squad, it was like making the other players in the Manchester United squad not too flexible in playing.
At least there is still stiffness and/or like an obstacle, especially for the Manchester United coach who seems to have a burden when he doesn't play Ronaldo.

But yes, after all, so far Erik ten Hag can provide the best for Manchester United. Also, of course, this change in performance is also a good achievement as a coach who is still new to coaching a team in the English Premier League with very tough competition.
So, with Erik ten Hag having proven himself in the Premiere League, then Erik ten Hag will certainly prove that Manchester United are currently improving and ready to play well in the European League as well.

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Quote from: asriloni on January 03, 2023, 05:28:30 AM

Quote from: koang on January 03, 2023, 02:01:12 AM

Yep. Ronaldo is a story of the past. In United, no player is Bigger than his club.
But I think Manchester United still needs to bring in a striker that can score Goals.

Btw, Let's keep the focus, take the points and get that 3rd Position by winning Bournemouth today. Go United... Start the year with a win.

MU has replacement for ronaldo and that's rashford. there's no need to feel disappointed when ronaldo already gone. ronaldo has gotten a new club for him. Rashford is also a very good winger like ronaldo. Rashford has become a new superstar for MU. Bournemouth seems an easy opponent for MU. it's likely MU will be winning the match by scoring a lot of goals against bournemouth.
United needs to be consistent to make sure if it can even enter into the top 3. Manchester city and newcastle were struggling by facing the small clubs. Both were getting draw and MU can use that golden opportunity.
The result from the MU in EPL can give more moral to the whole of its players in the europa league when MU will be facing barcelona.

Once again I have to say, that Manchester United performed better without Ronaldo. Currently, The Red Devils have entered the top four in their Domestic League. And also I have to say to be fair Ronaldo would be better off playing for another club than having the mental burden of staying with United. Rashford is one of Ten Hag's mainstay players in his squad, Rashford's performance shows that he deserves to be a main starter.

However, Rashford is not really the answer to United's needs in the centre-forward position. like it or not, Ten Hag had to bring in some newcomers, especially pure stickers, to sharpen their front line. We'll see which players Ten Hag will bring in this January. If he brings in the right players, I'm sure Manchester United will be an opponent who can again be on a par with the big clubs competing in the European League competition. before preparing for the match for the playoffs later, Ten Hag will focus his troops more on the Domestic League competition to maintain the ranking they currently occupy.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2023, 06:26:02 AM

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Barcelona is currently not showing the best of performances. Because Barcelona has drawn the first match after the break. That was the match Barcelona really should have not drawn.

We also very well know, that Barcelona has some problems going on with the team. The team itself is not a very balanced one. You know, they are also unable to bring in any new players, any new good players right now in the team. That’s obviously because of the financial problems they are facing right now.

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

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Barcelona's only chance is that United will treat the Europa League as their second priority this season. There are all prerequisites for this - United are doing well in the Premier League and they have every chance of not only gaining a foothold in the top 4 but even climbing higher. Given the value of qualifying for the Champions League, this looks like a bigger deal than beating Barcelona. Winning the Europa League also gives a direct ticket to the Champions League but it is less "guaranteed" as there is a lot of randomness in the knockout games.

Talking about the opportunity to qualify for the Champions League, of course Manchester United will prioritize that instead of focusing on the European League. But there is one thing they have to take care of, namely the prestige of Barcelona. Their meeting record says Manchester United are no better than Barcelona and as one of the giant teams they definitely want to make their record against Barcelona better by calming this match. They have the same chance as Barcelona to beat each other.

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Quote from: KTChampions on January 03, 2023, 06:26:02 AM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on January 03, 2023, 02:15:32 AM

Barcelona is currently not showing the best of performances. Because Barcelona has drawn the first match after the break. That was the match Barcelona really should have not drawn.

We also very well know, that Barcelona has some problems going on with the team. The team itself is not a very balanced one. You know, they are also unable to bring in any new players, any new good players right now in the team. That’s obviously because of the financial problems they are facing right now.

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

Duke Khan

Barcelona's only chance is that United will treat the Europa League as their second priority this season. There are all prerequisites for this - United are doing well in the Premier League and they have every chance of not only gaining a foothold in the top 4 but even climbing higher. Given the value of qualifying for the Champions League, this looks like a bigger deal than beating Barcelona. Winning the Europa League also gives a direct ticket to the Champions League but it is less "guaranteed" as there is a lot of randomness in the knockout games.

I think that Barcelona has the better chances here but the fact that they are directly fighting with Real Madrid to win the La Liga makes it a bit more difficult for them compared to Manchester United which has no title winning objective and it is impossible for them to win the title in the Premier League.

Barcelona when compared player by player I think has a better quality and normally should qualify further in the Europa League and be a strong contender to win the Europa League but in these encounters you never know how it might go because it is just a 2 game elimination so it can be anyone's game.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on January 03, 2023, 02:15:32 AM

Barcelona is currently not showing the best of performances. Because Barcelona has drawn the first match after the break. That was the match Barcelona really should have not drawn.

We also very well know, that Barcelona has some problems going on with the team. The team itself is not a very balanced one. You know, they are also unable to bring in any new players, any new good players right now in the team. That’s obviously because of the financial problems they are facing right now.

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

Duke Khan

Barcelona's only chance is that United will treat the Europa League as their second priority this season. There are all prerequisites for this - United are doing well in the Premier League and they have every chance of not only gaining a foothold in the top 4 but even climbing higher. Given the value of qualifying for the Champions League, this looks like a bigger deal than beating Barcelona. Winning the Europa League also gives a direct ticket to the Champions League but it is less "guaranteed" as there is a lot of randomness in the knockout games.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 03, 2023, 02:20:33 AM

Quote from: Smack That Ace on January 03, 2023, 02:15:32 AM

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

maybe Barcelona is very concentrated on La Liga. now is another opportunity they can't ignore for both of them after their UCL exit.
now Madrid also appears dominant in La Liga. if Xavi does not take advantage of the opportunities that exist, Barca may also lose hope for the La Liga trophy.
I still hope Barca will win the game against United. although team-wise we can see United looking better.

@Pandu Geddon I believe that Barcelona player’s will be distracted, because now De Jong has been rumoured to say that he wishes to leave Barcelona and join Manchester United. Furthermore Manchester United player’s are getting better and better with each game that they play, hence I expect them to defeat Barcelona easily and progress to the next round.

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Quote from: koang on January 03, 2023, 02:01:12 AM

Yep. Ronaldo is a story of the past. In United, no player is Bigger than his club.
But I think Manchester United still needs to bring in a striker that can score Goals.

Btw, Let's keep the focus, take the points and get that 3rd Position by winning Bournemouth today. Go United... Start the year with a win.

MU has replacement for ronaldo and that's rashford. there's no need to feel disappointed when ronaldo already gone. ronaldo has gotten a new club for him. Rashford is also a very good winger like ronaldo. Rashford has become a new superstar for MU. Bournemouth seems an easy opponent for MU. it's likely MU will be winning the match by scoring a lot of goals against bournemouth.
United needs to be consistent to make sure if it can even enter into the top 3. Manchester city and newcastle were struggling by facing the small clubs. Both were getting draw and MU can use that golden opportunity.
The result from the MU in EPL can give more moral to the whole of its players in the europa league when MU will be facing barcelona.

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Quote from: Smack That Ace on January 03, 2023, 02:15:32 AM

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

maybe Barcelona is very concentrated on La Liga. now is another opportunity they can't ignore for both of them after their UCL exit.
now Madrid also appears dominant in La Liga. if Xavi does not take advantage of the opportunities that exist, Barca may also lose hope for the La Liga trophy.
I still hope Barca will win the game against United. although team-wise we can see United looking better.

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Quote from: harapan on January 02, 2023, 09:57:06 AM

I am really looking forward to the match between Man United and Barcelona. It's going to be an interesting fixture. They are two teams that are rebuilding and also struggling. At the moment, Barcelona looks more formidable but you never know how things can go. There's kind of like a rivalry between these two teams because most United fans are Madrid's and Ronaldo's fans. while Barcelona fans are generally Messi fans and some are even City fans.
Man United also has a point to prove after kicking Ronaldo out. They would want to show that they can do it without him and that letting him go was not a mistake.

Barcelona is currently not showing the best of performances. Because Barcelona has drawn the first match after the break. That was the match Barcelona really should have not drawn.

We also very well know, that Barcelona has some problems going on with the team. The team itself is not a very balanced one. You know, they are also unable to bring in any new players, any new good players right now in the team. That’s obviously because of the financial problems they are facing right now.

Another thing is Barcelona right now is concentrating more on the La Liga title. So, I am not very confident about winning against Manchester United. Manchester United on the other hand has shown some significant improvements.

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I think Manchester United's performance is very independent of Ronaldo and this has nothing to do with Ronaldo because before Ronaldo left Manchester United, Ronaldo was also not fully played into the game, so Manchester United's appearance that has been seen so far was purely due to the efforts of the coach himself. who are still determined to change the way of playing for the better and now it is starting to show.

Yep. Ronaldo is a story of the past. In United, no player is Bigger than his club.
But I think Manchester United still needs to bring in a striker that can score Goals.

Btw, Let's keep the focus, take the points and get that 3rd Position by winning Bournemouth today. Go United... Start the year with a win.

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Quote from: Gosgosking on January 02, 2023, 10:27:07 AM

Ever since Ronaldo' left Manchester united, united have been playing all their games well with a good result. If I should compare the performance and challenge in both teams, I think Manchester United is better, all their player’s are doing better in performance.
Manchester united has already orove in their March during the weekend that they can do without Ronaldo.

I think Manchester United's performance is very independent of Ronaldo and this has nothing to do with Ronaldo because before Ronaldo left Manchester United, Ronaldo was also not fully played into the game, so Manchester United's appearance that has been seen so far was purely due to the efforts of the coach himself. who are still determined to change the way of playing for the better and now it is starting to show.

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Actually it would be really assertive to say that the winner of the Barcelona - Manchester United matchup will determine the title winner. Because Arsenal are currently the biggest favourite for the Europa League title already. Barcelona and Manchester United follow them right behind according to bookmakers. By the way I still find it pretty weird that Barcelona's odd is 5.50 while it is 5.00 for Arsenal to win this title. It looks like bookmakers don't care about the Manchester United matchup that much. I would have expected that gap to be bigger.

Manchester United's chance to continue in the Europa League is not too low in my opinion. Barcelona had better take this matchup very seriously.

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Depay should have gone to United, it would have been much much better for him, staying at Barcelona is a mistake for him because he is used as a sub and not a starter whereas United would have probably started him.

Rashford doesn't really have a surprising performance because he was always a good player, I always remember him as being a great scorer and even before Ronaldo came in, dude was the goal scorer for the team, only after having one big injury and being benched because of Ronaldo that people forgot how good he was, now they remember again how good he is. That is why I believe that we should not be really surprised with his good performance this year.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 01, 2023, 04:03:47 PM

I think that it wouldn't be fair to write off Manchester United so soon in the tournament. Because they won the Europa League before and they qualified for the finale in the 2020/21 season also. Even in the times they play badly in the English Premier League they still manage to do better in the Europa League. Currently I can't say that they are that much bad in their domestic league. But we will see how effective they will maintain both tournaments at the same time.

Above all else, the Barcelona draw is very crucial. It is no different than a finale and the winner will have eliminated one of the title contenders already. I'm supporting Barcelona honestly but I can't fully trust them because of their losses against big teams until now.

The only problem I have with Manchester United is that they are really inconsistent on a regular basis. Then, on top of all of that, they have released Cristiano Ronaldo as well, which is also a big blow to them. Their current situation is that they lack a suitable striker in the squad, and they really need to be able to sign one in this transfer window otherwise they will be in big trouble.

As a matter of fact, it seems as though the next match between Manchester United and Barcelona will somewhat determine who will be the winner of the Europa League this season, as it seems these two seem to be the most likely winners.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on January 02, 2023, 08:50:52 AM

what you said is true, what crises are being faced by Manchester and Juventus, I see these two teams in good condition, especially Manchester United which is in good condition because Rashford is in top form

in the next match later (in February), barca will face MU and juventus will face Nantes, these 2 matches will be very important for MU and juventus

that's gonna be the hottest match in the europa league. People were beliving in barcelona while they were underestimating rashford. i think that MU has bigger chance to win against barcelona caused by rashford.
Juventus will face nantes which an easy opponent to be beaten. MU vs barcelona is more interesting compared with juventus's match. Juventus will not face any problem against nantes.
I'd like to see that if MU and Juventus will be going to the next round

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Quote from: harapan on January 02, 2023, 09:57:06 AM

I am really looking forward to the match between Man United and Barcelona. It's going to be an interesting fixture. They are two teams that are rebuilding and also struggling. At the moment, Barcelona looks more formidable but you never know how things can go. There's kind of like a rivalry between these two teams because most United fans are Madrid's and Ronaldo's fans. while Barcelona fans are generally Messi fans and some are even City fans.
Man United also has a point to prove after kicking Ronaldo out. They would want to show that they can do it without him and that letting him go was not a mistake.

Ever since Ronaldo' left Manchester united, united have been playing all their games well with a good result. If I should compare the performance and challenge in both teams, I think Manchester United is better, all their player’s are doing better in performance.
Manchester united has already orove in their March during the weekend that they can do without Ronaldo.

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I am really looking forward to the match between Man United and Barcelona. It's going to be an interesting fixture. They are two teams that are rebuilding and also struggling. At the moment, Barcelona looks more formidable but you never know how things can go. There's kind of like a rivalry between these two teams because most United fans are Madrid's and Ronaldo's fans. while Barcelona fans are generally Messi fans and some are even City fans.
Man United also has a point to prove after kicking Ronaldo out. They would want to show that they can do it without him and that letting him go was not a mistake.

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