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I think that if Barcelona is able to beat Manchester United it doesn't mean that they will be highly favored as winners of the Europa League trophy because every team that passes to the next round will definitely try hard to achieve their hopes of becoming champions.

Barcelona ever beat MU many times, in the last 3 matches, Barcelona always won. The last won in the Champions league 2019, but in that time, even won, Barcelona is not able to get the champions league trophy because lost versus Liverpool in the semifinal, which mean, MU is not stepped for them to get the trophy, but If Barcelona able to beat them in Eufa league 2022, step for champions is open because MU is one club who can able to stop them on next round, Lewandowski admits it.

Barcelona is very much favored in the match against Man United, even if judging the odds from the bookmakers it is very difficult for Man United to be able to beat Barcelona, and I think what Lewandowski said is just attitude not to underestimate their opponents, namely Man United, even though I don't think it will happen Barcelona lose maybe a draw is more likely to happen, what Lewandowski said very well means that they will not let their guard down even though they are favored to win

This match won't be easy because this two teams are strong teams , what will happen as a result of this match is unpredictable. The absence of Lewandowski can affect Barcelona if time is not taking. Manchester United are getting stronger in their games it won't be easy for them to lose Barcelona. Manchester United have chances of winning because they have complete squad while Barcelona they already missing their important player in the match.

An important game for both Barcelona and Manchester United, Both club s has two great coach who knows how to detect and predict a game as it goes. It's a clear chance for the best side alone to go further.
Robert Lewandoski won't be absent he will only be absent for game's in the spanish league amd not Europa League playoffs competition.
Having Lewandoski absent doesn't place Man United a chance above Barcelona the game will decide who wins especially who defends and scores as quick in the game.

Barcelona and Manchester United both play very good football, both teams have very good players. However, in terms of experience, the players of Manchester United team are more advanced, in that case, I see the possibility of victory of Man U.

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I think that if Barcelona is able to beat Manchester United it doesn't mean that they will be highly favored as winners of the Europa League trophy because every team that passes to the next round will definitely try hard to achieve their hopes of becoming champions.

Barcelona ever beat MU many times, in the last 3 matches, Barcelona always won. The last won in the Champions league 2019, but in that time, even won, Barcelona is not able to get the champions league trophy because lost versus Liverpool in the semifinal, which mean, MU is not stepped for them to get the trophy, but If Barcelona able to beat them in Eufa league 2022, step for champions is open because MU is one club who can able to stop them on next round, Lewandowski admits it.

Barcelona is very much favored in the match against Man United, even if judging the odds from the bookmakers it is very difficult for Man United to be able to beat Barcelona, and I think what Lewandowski said is just attitude not to underestimate their opponents, namely Man United, even though I don't think it will happen Barcelona lose maybe a draw is more likely to happen, what Lewandowski said very well means that they will not let their guard down even though they are favored to win

This match won't be easy because this two teams are strong teams , what will happen as a result of this match is unpredictable. The absence of Lewandowski can affect Barcelona if time is not taking. Manchester United are getting stronger in their games it won't be easy for them to lose Barcelona. Manchester United have chances of winning because they have complete squad while Barcelona they already missing their important player in the match.

An important game for both Barcelona and Manchester United, Both club s has two great coach who knows how to detect and predict a game as it goes. It's a clear chance for the best side alone to go further.
Robert Lewandoski won't be absent he will only be absent for game's in the spanish league amd not Europa League playoffs competition.
Having Lewandoski absent doesn't place Man United a chance above Barcelona the game will decide who wins especially who defends and scores as quick in the game.

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Europa League matches will be so exciting to watch. From the looks of things, some clubs have already shown signs of weakness and these clubs may likely not qualify for the next stage. it's difficult to predict the winner between Manchester United vs Barcelona, Ajax vs Union Berlin, and Shakhtar Donetsk vs Rennes, others like Roma, Sporting, PSV, Juventus, and Monaco, Seem more dominating in this stage because from the fixtures, they seem to be the stronger side, and with that, they may likely qualify. But I see Arsenal as the next Europa league winners

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Quote from: lalabotax on December 29, 2022, 04:50:11 PM

The absence of Lewandowski will actually give certain influence to Barcelona. Moreover they must face Man United. Although both team may be not at their best condition rigjt now, but at least, Lewandowski will give certain influence. So pitty that he has the accumulation of the cards.

The Europe League this season willl be exactly a good match to watch and see. Because we know that so many big clubs are there. moreover, some of them must face and meet each other in earlier stages.

Seems you are misunderstanding about Robert Lewandowski punishment and absent in three matches later, Lewandowski absent only in La Liga competition and not any related with UEFA Europe League, still can playing against Manchester United in playoff round for next months.

Having one bigger team eliminated early in UEFA Europe League after playoff drawing match between Barcelona vs Manchester United, I don't think which one between Barcelona and Manchester United have eliminated early. This season many bigger team failed in Champion League knock out and have participants in Europe League and seems many big match later after playoff round for schedule drawing because still left Juventus, Ajax Amsterdam and Arsenal.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 29, 2022, 02:13:55 PM

By the way, both clubs have won any title in the international arena for a long time. For Barcelona it's 2015 and the Champions League, and for United it's 2017 and the Europa League. We can say that United is the more experienced club in this tournament Grin

Both giants in the Europe had their last successful seasons many years ago, 7 years for Barcelona and 5 years for Manchester United when they won their last titles in Europe. After that, they fell into their terrible crises that have yet ended.

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And another interesting factor that can be checked in this confrontation is that Barcelona this season loses all the big games, while United, on the contrary, performs better than expected. Will this trend continue?

Any trend can be broken anytime but with the records, it is more logic to bet that Manchester United will beat Barcelona. For me I choose Barcelona because they have beter system at least in attacking and they have a good striker Lewandowski who can break United defense anytime. Manchester United don't have good players like Barcelona in attacking.

Both clubs have bad defense systems.

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Yes, this meeting is good because we are guaranteed to see the game with a loud sign. After all, knowing that this tournament is not a priority for any of the top teams, it is quite possible to expect that they will be destroyed by any other average team or even an outsider. A loud sign provides at least minimal motivation.

Even though this is not a priority for the teams that will meet this time, there is prestige that they must maintain and that is required to win in this match. After all, they also need a trophy that they haven't gotten for a long time, the Europa League will be an opportunity for them to get it, because in the domestic league itself it will be difficult for them to get it, especially for Manchester United.

By the way, both clubs have won any title in the international arena for a long time. For Barcelona it's 2015 and the Champions League, and for United, it's 2017 and the Europa League. We can say that United is the more experienced club in this tournament Grin

And another interesting factor that can be checked in this confrontation is that Barcelona this season loses all the big games, while United, on the contrary, performs better than expected. Will this trend continue?

I was thinking u will say; United won all their big games, as Barcelona lose theirs. You are betting on the wrong horse to have concluded that Manchester United is more experienced than Barcelona. Currently, if u cross-examine each arm of both teams, u will realize that from defense to the attackers, Barcelona has more experienced players than Manchester united. And Barcelona has more good results than Manchester United in their clash history. So as it stands now both teams are firing on all cylinders but the prediction of who is to win is uncertain.

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Quote from: asriloni on December 29, 2022, 06:58:16 AM

The transfer season has not yet opened. Lewandowski was only getting sanction for not to play on the three matches and lewandowski is still fine. It seems like that barcelona didn't have intention to sell him to the another clubtoo. Torres didn't perform so well with barcelona. I will prefer to keep depay rather than torres.

The absence of Lewandowski will actually give certain influence to Barcelona. Moreover they must face Man United. Although both team may be not at their best condition rigjt now, but at least, Lewandowski will give certain influence. So pitty that he has the accumulation of the cards.

The Europe League this season willl be exactly a good match to watch and see. Because we know that so many big clubs are there. moreover, some of them must face and meet each other in earlier stages.

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Quote from: Alanaz on December 29, 2022, 08:22:27 AM

The statistics for the meetings of these two teams are more in favor of Barcelona, but it must be seen that at that time Barcelona still had stars like Lionel Messi who became the heart of Barcelona's game. I agree that this is a meeting that will be very different, apart from the players in the two teams there are also many differences, the coaches of the two teams are also different, and as far as I can remember this will be the first meeting between these two coaches.

It will 100% be different but that doesn't mean it will be amazing for United neither. I mean sure they are doing better than how they started the season, they might be not doing that great at the start but got better but so did Barcelona as well, they are doing fine.

All in all I have to say this is a game between equal parties, I do not see one better than the other at all, I see them both at the same level right now and if I had to be an oddmaker I would do it 2.30 vs 2.30 equal odds, which I know is not but that is how I see them. I believe that it is quite important to reach to a point where you realize big teams are much closer in talent than people think they are.

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Yes, this meeting is good because we are guaranteed to see the game with a loud sign. After all, knowing that this tournament is not a priority for any of the top teams, it is quite possible to expect that they will be destroyed by any other average team or even an outsider. A loud sign provides at least minimal motivation.

Even though this is not a priority for the teams that will meet this time, there is prestige that they must maintain and that is required to win in this match. After all, they also need a trophy that they haven't gotten for a long time, the Europa League will be an opportunity for them to get it, because in the domestic league itself it will be difficult for them to get it, especially for Manchester United.

By the way, both clubs have won any title in the international arena for a long time. For Barcelona it's 2015 and the Champions League, and for United it's 2017 and the Europa League. We can say that United is the more experienced club in this tournament Grin

And another interesting factor that can be checked in this confrontation is that Barcelona this season loses all the big games, while United, on the contrary, performs better than expected. Will this trend continue?

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I believe that Ronaldo’s exit will help Manchester United when they face Barcelona, because they’ll not be distracted by his antics on and off the pitch. Furthermore De Jong and Deepay will most likely stay at Barcelona at least till the summer transfer window, but beyond that Barcelona will have to convince them to stay otherwise I’m sure that they’ll move on to a club that makes them feel valuable.

Ronaldo himself has rarely been played by Ten Hag in the main squad. so Ronaldo's departure will not bother United. the match against Barcelona, of course, is a game of tactics. those who can overcome the opponent's tactics will get the victory.
there is still enough time, I'm sure both teams can focus first on their league. quite a long preparation, hopefully, the fight will be entertaining.

If you see speculation like this, I think Cristiano Ronaldo is the scapegoat for the inconsistent appearance of Manchester United. I don't mean to defend Cristiano Ronaldo, but how unfair it is when he is the only player who is considered to be the cause of all the negativity from Manchester United. Manchester United had struggled long before Cristiano Ronaldo joined Manchester United, even I myself can't remember the last time Manchester United played consistently impressive apart from when they were still coached by Alex Ferguson.

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I believe that Ronaldo’s exit will help Manchester United when they face Barcelona, because they’ll not be distracted by his antics on and off the pitch. Furthermore De Jong and Deepay will most likely stay at Barcelona at least till the summer transfer window, but beyond that Barcelona will have to convince them to stay otherwise I’m sure that they’ll move on to a club that makes them feel valuable.

Ronaldo himself has rarely been played by Ten Hag in the main squad. so Ronaldo's departure will not bother United. the match against Barcelona, of course, is a game of tactics. those who can overcome the opponent's tactics will get the victory.
there is still enough time, I'm sure both teams can focus first on their league. quite a long preparation, hopefully, the fight will be entertaining.

Yes, I also believe that Ronaldo's departure will not have a negative impact on Manchester United's performance, because it is possible that Ronaldo's absence in Manchester United's squad might make Manchester United's performance better. Also regarding Barcelona with the issue of their key players who might leave Barcelona like the name mentioned, I personally also think it's possible that with their departure and then Barcelona will get other new players who might be even better.
Because basically we won't know for sure which player is more appropriate for the team, because of course all possibilities can still happen.

But if I only consider their abilities so far, basically they have abilities and/or qualities that are not much different. Because after all, there will always be strengths and weaknesses, but not only from the players but also from many other factors such as coaches etc.
Because before they play in the Europa League too, they will experience a reshuffle of the line-up due to the transfer window. Even though the reshuffle may not be too big, but still, it will also have an impact on changes in their performance later.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 29, 2022, 10:07:36 AM

How did you know that Lewandowski would be absent in the playoff match, against Manchester United later.

I'm not even sure, regarding Manchester United's line-up against El Barca later. the reason is, until now Manchester United have not decided to bring in a center forward for the team's current needs after Ronaldo's departure. plus, Man United still lacks an attacking midfielder even though Ten Hag already has Bruno Fernandes as a Second Striker. even so, in fact Ten Hag still needs additional attacking midfielders to help their front line.

On the Barcelona side, I believe that Xavi has learned a lot from the mistakes and weaknesses of his squad. Barcelona has Lewandowski who is very sharp when it comes to scoring goals, it's just that El Barca still has many weaknesses that his coach will actually fix. So, in the match, we will find out which team will make it through to the next round.

Seems speculation only about Robert Lewandowski absent in the playoff match against Manchester United because left more than one month later and we can't have accurate predicting about Lewandowski injury or not, but he has absent for Barcelona in La Liga until three matches later after official announcement from RFEF.

For Manchester United still not having center forward after Cristiano Ronaldo leaving United before World Cup and right now have space left in center forward position, actually have chance in January window transfer but Manchester United lost compete for signing Cody Gakpo from PSV and have reach agreement joining with Liverpool.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on December 29, 2022, 08:50:46 AM

This match won't be easy because this two teams are strong teams , what will happen as a result of this match is unpredictable. The absence of Lewandowski can affect Barcelona if time is not taking. Manchester United are getting stronger in their games it won't be easy for them to lose Barcelona. Manchester United have chances of winning because they have complete squad while Barcelona they already missing their important player in the match.

How did you know that Lewandowski would be absent in the playoff match, against Manchester United later.

I'm not even sure, regarding Manchester United's line-up against El Barca later. the reason is, until now Manchester United have not decided to bring in a center forward for the team's current needs after Ronaldo's departure. plus, Man United still lacks an attacking midfielder even though Ten Hag already has Bruno Fernandes as a Second Striker. even so, in fact Ten Hag still needs additional attacking midfielders to help their front line.

On the Barcelona side, I believe that Xavi has learned a lot from the mistakes and weaknesses of his squad. Barcelona has Lewandowski who is very sharp when it comes to scoring goals, it's just that El Barca still has many weaknesses that his coach will actually fix. So, in the match, we will find out which team will make it through to the next round.

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I think that if Barcelona is able to beat Manchester United it doesn't mean that they will be highly favored as winners of the Europa League trophy because every team that passes to the next round will definitely try hard to achieve their hopes of becoming champions.

Barcelona ever beat MU many times, in the last 3 matches, Barcelona always won. The last won in the Champions league 2019, but in that time, even won, Barcelona is not able to get the champions league trophy because lost versus Liverpool in the semifinal, which mean, MU is not stepped for them to get the trophy, but If Barcelona able to beat them in Eufa league 2022, step for champions is open because MU is one club who can able to stop them on next round, Lewandowski admits it.

Barcelona is very much favored in the match against Man United, even if judging the odds from the bookmakers it is very difficult for Man United to be able to beat Barcelona, and I think what Lewandowski said is just attitude not to underestimate their opponents, namely Man United, even though I don't think it will happen Barcelona lose maybe a draw is more likely to happen, what Lewandowski said very well means that they will not let their guard down even though they are favored to win

This match won't be easy because this two teams are strong teams , what will happen as a result of this match is unpredictable. The absence of Lewandowski can affect Barcelona if time is not taking. Manchester United are getting stronger in their games it won't be easy for them to lose Barcelona. Manchester United have chances of winning because they have complete squad while Barcelona they already missing their important player in the match.

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I think there is a slight misunderstanding here

I mean statistic Head to Head Man United VS Barcelona.
Please read the post that I previously quoted too. Peace

By the way, I'm a United fan, and I agree with you, The team from England is fundamentally different from the Spanish team.

If the statistics are head to head between Manchester United vs Barcelona, it is very clear that Barcelona won more matches when they met Manchester United and that included when Messi was still at Barcelona, but for this season I am sure there will be a difference in appearance on the part of Barcelona and also on the Manchester United side, because both of these teams have both had better changes so there is a possibility that the matches will be fierce.

The statistics for the meetings of these two teams are more in favor of Barcelona, but it must be seen that at that time Barcelona still had stars like Lionel Messi who became the heart of Barcelona's game. I agree that this is a meeting that will be very different, apart from the players in the two teams there are also many differences, the coaches of the two teams are also different, and as far as I can remember this will be the first meeting between these two coaches.

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Quote from: koang on December 29, 2022, 03:07:19 AM

I think there is a slight misunderstanding here

I mean statistic Head to Head Man United VS Barcelona.
Please read the post that I previously quoted too. Peace

By the way, I'm a United fan, and I agree with you, The team from England is fundamentally different from the Spanish team.

If the statistics are head to head between Manchester United vs Barcelona, it is very clear that Barcelona won more matches when they met Manchester United and that included when Messi was still at Barcelona, but for this season I am sure there will be a difference in appearance on the part of Barcelona and also on the Manchester United side, because both of these teams have both had better changes so there is a possibility that the matches will be fierce.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2022, 05:43:17 PM

Barcelona should keep Depay or find a replacement for him if they are eager to part their ways with him in January already. Because Lewandowski won't have a striker as a replacement for himself if he Depay leaves. I know that there are players like Ferran Torres who can play there but it wouldn't be the same effect certainly.

The transfer season has not yet opened. Lewandowski was only getting sanction for not to play on the three matches and lewandowski is still fine. It seems like that barcelona didn't have intention to sell him to the another clubtoo. Torres didn't perform so well with barcelona. I will prefer to keep depay rather than torres.

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2022, 05:43:17 PM

This is important for them not only in the La Liga but also here. The Europa League title must be among their targets in the end. They need to keep the team strong for that.

That means lewandowski must not get injured. There's no guarantee if when barcelona played without lewandowski and barcelona can perform so good since early season until now.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on December 29, 2022, 03:26:54 AM

I believe that Ronaldo’s exit will help Manchester United when they face Barcelona, because they’ll not be distracted by his antics on and off the pitch. Furthermore De Jong and Deepay will most likely stay at Barcelona at least till the summer transfer window, but beyond that Barcelona will have to convince them to stay otherwise I’m sure that they’ll move on to a club that makes them feel valuable.

Ronaldo himself has rarely been played by Ten Hag in the main squad. so Ronaldo's departure will not bother United. the match against Barcelona, of course, is a game of tactics. those who can overcome the opponent's tactics will get the victory.
there is still enough time, I'm sure both teams can focus first on their league. quite a long preparation, hopefully, the fight will be entertaining.

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Ronaldo has gotten to a stage in his career were he is not able to perform the way he used to when he was at the peak of his career. He has only managed to score just a few goals and few in the world cup too and It is so sad to conclude we are gradually seeing the end of the Ronaldo era. The Saudi league will be a less difficult league for him to flourish but there will be no glory in that and Ronaldo is all about proving himself as the greatest player in the world.

Ronaldo is still a good player, I could remember last season in Manchester United is performance was good. He was the hope of Manchester United then. In the the season he was not used very well to play most games and I think that affected his performance because he was always on the bench. If Ronaldo is becoming weak it would have showed in his performance last season. Ronaldo is still strong at 37.

Exactly speaking brains, he was the hope of Manchester United to see a qualification for the Champions League and even the European League scoring hat trick on different games in order to enable his side pull through to the level. If they really wanted him he shouldn't have been dropped that way there are external bodies actually pushing for Ronaldo's exit.

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2022, 05:43:17 PM

Barcelona should keep Depay or find a replacement for him if they are eager to part their ways with him in January already. Because Lewandowski won't have a striker as a replacement for himself if he Depay leaves. I know that there are players like Ferran Torres who can play there but it wouldn't be the same effect certainly.

This is important for them not only in the La Liga but also here. The Europa League title must be among their targets in the end. They need to keep the team strong for that.

These players both De Jong and Depay has been forced out to leave Barcelona before now it is so lovely to see Barcelona holding up to the same players they want out of th club. De Jong has been so much important, Xavi Hernandez said he'll be a good option for center back so he could leave the club indirectly but all of that now cooled. .

I believe that Ronaldo’s exit will help Manchester United when they face Barcelona, because they’ll not be distracted by his antics on and off the pitch. Furthermore De Jong and Deepay will most likely stay at Barcelona at least till the summer transfer window, but beyond that Barcelona will have to convince them to stay otherwise I’m sure that they’ll move on to a club that makes them feel valuable.

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Quote from: wmaurik on December 28, 2022, 08:21:04 AM

Quote from: koang on December 28, 2022, 12:45:05 AM

Statistically, Barcelona is superior, but Manchester United is a strong team.
If they want to win this match, Barcelona must bring out their best.
And to win the championship title, there is still a long way to go.
There are still clubs that can become stumbling blocks, such as Arsenal and Feyenoord,
who are currently at the top of their respective league standings.

Which statistic makes Barcelona superior? Because in the past when there was Messi at Barcelona, this team began to fail in the Champions League which in the end was in the European League. So which statistic do you mean superior to Barcelona?

Manchester United is a team from England which is fundamentally different from Spanish teams like Barcelona. So if you want to compare these two teams in terms of statistics, then you need to look at every data and achievement of these two teams so that everyone can know which team's statistics are superior.

I think there is a slight misunderstanding here

I mean statistic Head to Head Man United VS Barcelona.
Please read the post that I previously quoted too. Peace

By the way, I'm a United fan, and I agree with you, The team from England is fundamentally different from the Spanish team.

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