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Ronaldo has gotten to a stage in his career were he is not able to perform the way he used to when he was at the peak of his career. He has only managed to score just a few goals and few in the world cup too and It is so sad to conclude we are gradually seeing the end of the Ronaldo era. The Saudi league will be a less difficult league for him to flourish but there will be no glory in that and Ronaldo is all about proving himself as the greatest player in the world.

Ronaldo is still a good player, I could remember last season in Manchester United is performance was good. He was the hope of Manchester United then. In the the season he was not used very well to play most games and I think that affected his performance because he was always on the bench. If Ronaldo is becoming weak it would have showed in his performance last season. Ronaldo is still strong at 37.

Exactly speaking brains, he was the hope of Manchester United to see a qualification for the Champions League and even the European League scoring hat trick on different games in order to enable his side pull through to the level. If they really wanted him he shouldn't have been dropped that way there are external bodies actually pushing for Ronaldo's exit.

Quote from: Velvet78 on December 28, 2022, 05:43:17 PM

Barcelona should keep Depay or find a replacement for him if they are eager to part their ways with him in January already. Because Lewandowski won't have a striker as a replacement for himself if he Depay leaves. I know that there are players like Ferran Torres who can play there but it wouldn't be the same effect certainly.

This is important for them not only in the La Liga but also here. The Europa League title must be among their targets in the end. They need to keep the team strong for that.

These players both De Jong and Depay has been forced out to leave Barcelona before now it is so lovely to see Barcelona holding up to the same players they want out of th club. De Jong has been so much important, Xavi Hernandez said he'll be a good option for center back so he could leave the club indirectly but all of that now cooled. .

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Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2022, 01:53:53 PM

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Yes, we have to appreciate Xavi Hernandez's performance because he made a lot of changes to the team so that we can see Barcelona as it is today. When Koeman was still in charge, I didn't even expect Barcelona to be able to at least compete in the top 4 of the standings. However, when management decided to put their trust in Xavi. hope reappears with the changes he made. Indeed, I don't deny that at first I doubted that Xavi would make a contribution to Barcelona, but slowly my doubts were answered.

Knocked out of the Champions League is Barcelona failure this season, Xavi will not allow the same mistake to happen in the Europa League. The opponents facing this time are top teams who are building their squad after going through difficult times. Xavi must be able to make all parties believe in his quality, winning the match vs Manchester United is one way to answer doubts for him.

In the local league, Barcelona performance was very good, they managed to sit in first place with a point advantage over Real Madrid. While in the Europa League Xavi has to prove that Barcelona can still compete with the big teams, this is the second chance for saXavi to lift the Europa League trophy after he failed in last season's final after being beaten by Frankfurt.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2022, 01:53:53 PM

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I think everything all happened in a short time, probably they did not expect things will end up the way they did, they also didn't expect Messi will leave the club so they were not prepared for his departure but things are finally falling into place once again thanks to Xavi, a lot of improvement has been made compared to the previous season and they can now compete for the league trophy.

Yes, we have to appreciate Xavi Hernandez's performance because he made a lot of changes to the team so that we can see Barcelona as it is today. When Koeman was still in charge, I didn't even expect Barcelona to be able to at least compete in the top 4 of the standings. However, when management decided to put their trust in Xavi. hope reappears with the changes he made. Indeed, I don't deny that at first, I doubted that Xavi would make a contribution to Barcelona, but slowly my doubts were answered.

Xavi is a legend just like Frank Lampard. I'm happy that Barcelona's management isn't as impatience has Chelsea's management. If it were to be Chelsea, I don't think Xavi will be granted such time to build the team in a way that he desires. I think Frank Lampard would have done the same job in Chelsea if he was given much time but it was unfortunate that he found himself in the midst of inpatient management. Lucky for Xavi, he's been able to go this far with Barcelona. I believe Xavi has much better plans for FCB, but let's see what his subsequent stay will yield.

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Barcelona should keep Depay or find a replacement for him if they are eager to part their ways with him in January already. Because Lewandowski won't have a striker as a replacement for himself if he Depay leaves. I know that there are players like Ferran Torres who can play there but it wouldn't be the same effect certainly.

This is important for them not only in the La Liga but also here. The Europa League title must be among their targets in the end. They need to keep the team strong for that.

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Quote from: CryptoPanda on December 28, 2022, 01:57:39 PM

Ronaldo has gotten to a stage in his career were he is not able to perform the way he used to when he was at the peak of his career. He has only managed to score just a few goals and few in the world cup too and It is so sad to conclude we are gradually seeing the end of the Ronaldo era. The Saudi league will be a less difficult league for him to flourish but there will be no glory in that and Ronaldo is all about proving himself as the greatest player in the world.

Ronaldo is still a good player, I could remember last season in Manchester United is performance was good. He was the hope of Manchester United then. In the the season he was not used very well to play most games and I think that affected his performance because he was always on the bench. If Ronaldo is becoming weak it would have showed in his performance last season. Ronaldo is still strong at 37.

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Memphis Depay is not a bad player, but he is not so good either, he is kind of an ordinary player. He didn't score goals in the 2022 world cup, he scored only one goal, and that was against USA in the round of 16. He is rarely in the starting line-up this season because Barcelona bought many players that are better than him last summer, and Xavi no longer needs him as an important player in the team. I feel Depay should move to another team as soon as possible, if he stays in Barcelona he will only play when there are injuries to first team players, or when the match is not so important to Barcelona.

True, Memphis Depay is actually still very good if he leaves Barcelona and joins another club in the transfer market later. It is possible that this could happen and Depay did not hesitate to pick up his suitcase from Camp Nou. Considering that Xavi also rarely gives him minutes to play, of course that is also a supporting factor in continuing his career with another club.

I believe that he wouldn't be able to find himself a place at the top clubs, but he could always find himself a team in the big leagues. Like lets say if him moving to Roma was possible, would that be bad? Or him moving to Dortmund right now? They are lacking strikers and Depay could help them a lot.

All in all he is a dude that is talented, but Lewandowski is much better than him, and truth be told there are only a handful of players in the world who could be considered better at striker position than Lewandowski which is why I highly suggest him to move on and find another club which would help them out a lot in the long run, both good for Barcelona to make some money and get rid of his salary, and for Depay to show himself and play somewhere.

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Even when manchester united was not in a good shape and i think that manchester has a big chance to win the game. Manchester united is slowly moving up again. The perfomance is not yet reached its best performance but i think that if the current performance from MU was equal to the barcelona. I will not even try to underestimate manchester united for now caused by it can make barcelona going back anytime. that reminds me when people were picking barcelona over frankfurt and did you know that barcelona lose against frankfurt?
that's the story of last year but that's still worthy to take some lessons if any team in europa league was also very strong at this moment too.

I am guessing that Ronaldo doesn't show what he used to show during the practice periods? Or the fact that he couldn't score much during the group stages and the other games as well? I get that he is the guy with the most goals ever, so I am not going to argue about his scoring abilities, dude definitely scored a lot of goals so far, but just because he did that in the past doesn't mean that he did it during the world cup neither.

Manager saw him missing chances that other players "may" score, and it worked well on the first game, but against Morocco that didn't work, and Ronaldo showed up later as well and he failed to, it is just reality that he doesn't score like he used to.

Ronaldo has gotten to a stage in his career were he is not able to perform the way he used to when he was at the peak of his career. He has only managed to score just a few goals and few in the world cup too and It is so sad to conclude we are gradually seeing the end of the Ronaldo era. The Saudi league will be a less difficult league for him to flourish but there will be no glory in that and Ronaldo is all about proving himself as the greatest player in the world.

I think that might be severely underestimating what it means to be at the very top of one's career, as Ronaldo is and has been for years now. Too many people are putting age over everything else. A younger football player does not automatically make him a better football player. Throughout the years Ronaldo has been gathering experience and training that the young Ronaldo did not have. So if a young Ronaldo played against the current Ronaldo, I think the older one would win.

Why are people throwing a 37 year old down into the trash just because he is a bit older but still young? Would a few years make a huge difference here?

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It is going to be really disappointing to see one of the biggest favourites of the Europa League being eliminated already. Barcelona and Manchester United should have faced each other in the later stages of the tournament. However it is good for us at the same time. Because the Europa League is going to be back with an amazing matchup which is like a finale.

It is quite difficult to be sure of anything about a side to advance for now. We should see how these teams will perform after this break first. Maybe one of the sides won't be able to continue from where they left off.

Yes, this meeting is good because we are guaranteed to see the game with a loud sign. After all, knowing that this tournament is not a priority for any of the top teams, it is quite possible to expect that they will be destroyed by any other average team or even an outsider. A loud sign provides at least minimal motivation.

Even though this is not a priority for the teams that will meet this time, there is prestige that they must maintain and that is required to win in this match. After all, they also need a trophy that they haven't gotten for a long time, the Europa League will be an opportunity for them to get it, because in the domestic league itself it will be difficult for them to get it, especially for Manchester United.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 28, 2022, 01:53:53 PM

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I think everything all happened in a short time, probably they did not expect things will end up the way they did, they also didn't expect Messi will leave the club so they were not prepared for his departure but things are finally falling into place once again thanks to Xavi, a lot of improvement has been made compared to the previous season and they can now compete for the league trophy.

Yes, we have to appreciate Xavi Hernandez's performance because he made a lot of changes to the team so that we can see Barcelona as it is today. When Koeman was still in charge, I didn't even expect Barcelona to be able to at least compete in the top 4 of the standings. However, when management decided to put their trust in Xavi. hope reappears with the changes he made. Indeed, I don't deny that at first I doubted that Xavi would make a contribution to Barcelona, but slowly my doubts were answered.

The Barcelona team is now much more organized than before. Their performance is quite stable now. There are still several weaknesses within the party. Xavi is trying to strengthen the team. But Xavi is now trying to win the title. Xavi now aims to win both the La Liga and Europa League titles. How Barcelona will play in the Europa League is still uncertain. Barcelona will play against Espanyol in the next match in La Liga. Hopefully Barcelona will play well and win.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 27, 2022, 02:02:49 PM

It is going to be really disappointing to see one of the biggest favourites of the Europa League being eliminated already. Barcelona and Manchester United should have faced each other in the later stages of the tournament. However it is good for us at the same time. Because the Europa League is going to be back with an amazing matchup which is like a finale.

It is quite difficult to be sure of anything about a side to advance for now. We should see how these teams will perform after this break first. Maybe one of the sides won't be able to continue from where they left off.

Yes, this meeting is good because we are guaranteed to see the game with a loud sign. After all, knowing that this tournament is not a priority for any of the top teams, it is quite possible to expect that they will be destroyed by any other average team or even an outsider. A loud sign provides at least minimal motivation.

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Quote from: asriloni on December 28, 2022, 05:46:15 AM

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Barcelona is very much favored in the match against Man United, even if judging the odds from the bookmakers it is very difficult for Man United to be able to beat Barcelona, and I think what Lewandowski said is just attitude not to underestimate their opponents, namely Man United, even though I don't think it will happen Barcelona lose maybe a draw is more likely to happen, what Lewandowski said very well means that they will not let their guard down even though they are favored to win

The same thing was always happening. I see people are doing the same thing by betting on barcelona rather than MU. Even bookies gave very small odds for barcelona. I doubt if barcelona will make it against MU.
Barcelona may above everything compared with MU in the statistic but it doesn't mean MU was not capable to defeat barcelona. MU has got very big odds from bookies as bookies were disbelieve with MU.
That looks good to see that happened with MU as it give me a chance to take it.

It's only natural that Barcelona will be more seeded because after all, Barcelona has a better squad on paper but unfortunately, even though Barcelona has a better squad but Xavi still seems difficult to get them to get their best form. Because if Xavi can give the best form for the squad he has, then at least Barcelona won't be eliminated from the Champions League.
With the existence of weaknesses and imperfections in Barcelona's performance with the luxurious squad they have, for me Barcelona in this match still does not guarantee victory.

Because in the European League only with a luxurious squad for me it still doesn't guarantee good results, because if they play without good chemistry then of course they will still find it difficult to get the final result as expected.
But yes, because in this first leg Barcelona will play at home, of course Barcelona will make bigger efforts to be able to win at least with a difference of two goals. Because if it goes according to plan, then in the second leg later Barcelona will only play more defensively but yes, after all Manchester United is not a weak team and they can beat Barcelona.

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Even when manchester united was not in a good shape and i think that manchester has a big chance to win the game. Manchester united is slowly moving up again. The perfomance is not yet reached its best performance but i think that if the current performance from MU was equal to the barcelona. I will not even try to underestimate manchester united for now caused by it can make barcelona going back anytime. that reminds me when people were picking barcelona over frankfurt and did you know that barcelona lose against frankfurt?
that's the story of last year but that's still worthy to take some lessons if any team in europa league was also very strong at this moment too.

I am guessing that Ronaldo doesn't show what he used to show during the practice periods? Or the fact that he couldn't score much during the group stages and the other games as well? I get that he is the guy with the most goals ever, so I am not going to argue about his scoring abilities, dude definitely scored a lot of goals so far, but just because he did that in the past doesn't mean that he did it during the world cup neither.

Manager saw him missing chances that other players "may" score, and it worked well on the first game, but against Morocco that didn't work, and Ronaldo showed up later as well and he failed to, it is just reality that he doesn't score like he used to.

Ronaldo has gotten to a stage in his career were he is not able to perform the way he used to when he was at the peak of his career. He has only managed to score just a few goals and few in the world cup too and It is so sad to conclude we are gradually seeing the end of the Ronaldo era. The Saudi league will be a less difficult league for him to flourish but there will be no glory in that and Ronaldo is all about proving himself as the greatest player in the world.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 28, 2022, 08:32:53 AM

I think everything all happened in a short time, probably they did not expect things will end up the way they did, they also didn't expect Messi will leave the club so they were not prepared for his departure but things are finally falling into place once again thanks to Xavi, a lot of improvement has been made compared to the previous season and they can now compete for the league trophy.

Yes, we have to appreciate Xavi Hernandez's performance because he made a lot of changes to the team so that we can see Barcelona as it is today. When Koeman was still in charge, I didn't even expect Barcelona to be able to at least compete in the top 4 of the standings. However, when management decided to put their trust in Xavi. hope reappears with the changes he made. Indeed, I don't deny that at first I doubted that Xavi would make a contribution to Barcelona, but slowly my doubts were answered.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 27, 2022, 08:18:17 AM

It wasn't such a bad idea to try to build a fresh team to play with good teamwork without relying on Messi to carry the team. Indeed Barcelona's biggest flop this season was getting eliminated from the champions league, good thing they have another chance in the Europa League to rewrite the wrongs this season. If they can win the Europa League it could erase their failure in the champions league from the minds of the public.

I don't expect Barcelona to fail again this season in the Europa League even though its journey to qualifying for the last 16 is never easy. Beating Manchester United was a tough task, I never thought it would be easy but this season Barcelona and their players seem more experienced than ever.

Even I don't think Barcelona's failure in the Champions League this season hurts too much, that's because I recognize the superiority of Bayern Munich and Inter in the group stages. But after that failure, I think Barcelona are looking stronger now and they have to do something in the Europa League. I believe in their ability and their players, so there is hope to win and qualify even if it means against Manchester United.

To you, Barcelona's Elimination from the champion league doesn't hurt much. But others may not feel the same. Even if Barcelona should win the Europa League, it wouldn't be enough consolation for elimination from the champion league. moreover, their proximity to the Europa League is not ascertained especially now that Manchester United is gradually revitalizing their form, and don't forget that Sevilla, Roma, sporting Ajax, Juventus, and Arsenal are also stronger contenders in this Europa league race.

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Quote from: Pokapoka124 on December 28, 2022, 08:32:53 AM

I think everything all happened in a short time, probably they did not expect things will end up the way they did, they also didn't expect Messi will leave the club so they were not prepared for his departure but things are finally falling into place once again thanks to Xavi, a lot of improvement has been made compared to the previous season and they can now compete for the league trophy.

Barcelona should not have let go of Aubameyang during the last transfer now they will go two three games without Lewandoski, Depay is more from the side than the position Lewandoski plays so I think Barcelona will find it hard scoring against espanyol. Did they not successfully appeal was it not lifted so Lewandoski can play? Depay has been linked with Man United since they lacked a number nine currently, Europa League approaching they will have to get him if they really want the player around. Europa will be back United are surely hoping to seal it for the fans.

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Quote from: wmaurik on December 28, 2022, 08:21:04 AM

Quote from: koang on December 28, 2022, 12:45:05 AM

Statistically, Barcelona is superior, but Manchester United is a strong team.
If they want to win this match, Barcelona must bring out their best.
And to win the championship title, there is still a long way to go.
There are still clubs that can become stumbling blocks, such as Arsenal and Feyenoord,
who are currently at the top of their respective league standings.

Which statistic makes Barcelona superior? Because in the past when there was Messi at Barcelona, this team began to fail in the Champions League which in the end was in the European League. So which statistic do you mean superior to Barcelona?

Manchester United is a team from England which is fundamentally different from Spanish teams like Barcelona. So if you want to compare these two teams in terms of statistics, then you need to look at every data and achievement of these two teams so that everyone can know which team's statistics are superior.

Maybe, what @koang meant was Man United's performance and Barcelona's performance. so I guess, that he put in terms of comparison for this season. especially when he refers to United's performances, since the first game this season. there is nothing wrong, I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

after all, if we refer to these two clubs based on the statistics of their achievements in all competitions. and as you said, but the fact is that these two clubs are giants in their respective Domestic Leagues. and again, if we compare the two teams that will compete later. and if, there is a difference of opinion it is a matter of course. there will always be debate, some say United is better, some say Barcelona will have no trouble overthrowing Man United in the playoffs later.

but in truth, we never knew before this match was actually held. IMO, Manchester United still lacks both in terms of attacking midfielders and sharpness on their front lines, as well as Barcelona which is weak in terms of defense. Ten Hag and Xavi will prepare their troops for this match later, these two coaches will ensure their troops play with high performance to win the battle in the playoff match later.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on December 27, 2022, 08:52:56 AM

I saw that barcelona will not face any problem even though barcelona will be playing the game without lewandowski as its main striker. Barcelona has some players that are ready to be played in the starting line up. Is not it good for another player like depay to show if he still has potential for barcelona? i saw that as an opportunity for him although lewandowski was top scorer in la liga but it doesn't mean if depay was bad. It will be affecting the performance from barcelona as sometimes lewandowski was able to helping the club like saving barcelona when it was losing a few goals and made the match become draw. Lewandowski will absent for three matches which can be considered as a lot of matches.

Depay is not a bad choice to replace Lewandowski in the striker role for the games Lewandowski will be out. Delay is a good attacker too and can score good goals so I see this as an opportunity for him to show Xavi what qualities he also has and fight to earn Xavi's trust again, maybe just maybe is he can come through in this games he might as well seal a spot for himself in the starting eleven for Xavi's team.

Quote from: crunck on December 27, 2022, 12:06:00 PM

Barcelona management should have found a suitable replacement for Messi and then released Messi. Then they would not have to face such a bad situation. Now Xavi is trying to stabilize the team. We don't know when the Barcelona team will stabilize. Barcelona is out of the Champions League. Now they aim to win the Europa League and La Liga titles. I think if Barcelona can win the next match against Manchester United then they will be able to win the Europa League title.

I think everything all happened in a short time, probably they did not expect things will end up the way they did, they also didn't expect Messi will leave the club so they were not prepared for his departure but things are finally falling into place once again thanks to Xavi, a lot of improvement has been made compared to the previous season and they can now compete for the league trophy.

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Quote from: koang on December 28, 2022, 12:45:05 AM

Statistically, Barcelona is superior, but Manchester United is a strong team.
If they want to win this match, Barcelona must bring out their best.
And to win the championship title, there is still a long way to go.
There are still clubs that can become stumbling blocks, such as Arsenal and Feyenoord,
who are currently at the top of their respective league standings.

Which statistic makes Barcelona superior? Because in the past when there was Messi at Barcelona, this team began to fail in the Champions League which in the end was in the European League. So which statistic do you mean superior to Barcelona?

Manchester United is a team from England which is fundamentally different from Spanish teams like Barcelona. So if you want to compare these two teams in terms of statistics, then you need to look at every data and achievement of these two teams so that everyone can know which team's statistics are superior.

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Quote from: Strongkored on December 28, 2022, 05:11:15 AM

Barcelona is very much favored in the match against Man United, even if judging the odds from the bookmakers it is very difficult for Man United to be able to beat Barcelona, and I think what Lewandowski said is just attitude not to underestimate their opponents, namely Man United, even though I don't think it will happen Barcelona lose maybe a draw is more likely to happen, what Lewandowski said very well means that they will not let their guard down even though they are favored to win

The same thing was always happening. I see people are doing the same thing by betting on barcelona rather than MU. Even bookies gave very small odds for barcelona. I doubt if barcelona will make it against MU.
Barcelona may above everything compared with MU in the statistic but it doesn't mean MU was not capable to defeat barcelona. MU has got very big odds from bookies as bookies were disbelieve with MU.
That looks good to see that happened with MU as it give me a chance to take it.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 27, 2022, 12:21:33 PM

I don't think Memphis Depay is bad, it's just that during this season he has rarely been included in the starting line-up because Lewandowski has filled that position. When defending the Netherlands at the 2022 world cup he did quite well and scored goals. Maybe here is the lack of playing minutes that will make everyone doubt if Barcelona chooses Depay as an option to replace Lewandowski in the main attack line. But I don't see that bad in Depay, he will still be good and offensive when needed.

Memphis Depay is not a bad player, but he is not so good either, he is kind of an ordinary player. He didn't score goals in the 2022 world cup, he scored only one goal, and that was against USA in the round of 16. He is rarely in the starting line-up this season because Barcelona bought many players that are better than him last summer, and Xavi no longer needs him as an important player in the team. I feel Depay should move to another team as soon as possible, if he stays in Barcelona he will only play when there are injuries to first team players, or when the match is not so important to Barcelona.

True, Memphis Depay is actually still very good if he leaves Barcelona and joins another club in the transfer market later. It is possible that this could happen and Depay did not hesitate to pick up his suitcase from Camp Nou. Considering that Xavi also rarely gives him minutes to play, of course that is also a supporting factor in continuing his career with another club.

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