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It would be so difficult for Manchester United if not for Rashford's surprising form. Presently, Manchester United does not have a good option for central 9. Martial abilities isn't good enough for the club to depend on, for that they are in the race to bring in Memphis depay or Joao Felix. If this can be completed anytime soon, this will be a big relieve for Manchester United midfield and Attacking line, and a huge deficiency on Barcelona squad because this two players needed by man united are already in Barca.. I pray Barca should make better plans ahead of the Europa league.

it seems that MU's hopes must now focus on bringing in Joao Felix. because Memphis depay has confirmed that he will stay in Barcelona.
MU's competitor to sign Joao Felix is Arsenal. and they too have hit a deadlock in negotiations. this is an opportunity for MU to move quickly.
whether it's a loan transfer or a purchase. I think MU must take into account Joao Felix's advantage of being in the squad.
to face Barcelona, I think MU needs fresher players on the front lines.

I do not believe that Joao Felix is the most effective option for Manchester United at the moment. Joao Felix seems to me to be more of a secondary striker, rather than a primary striker.

Currently, they are in need of a lethal number nine who will be able to score on a regular basis. This is in contrast to Felix who will not be able to score continuously as he is not that kind of player. I think United should look at other options besides Felix when it comes to selecting a new player. There was a time when they brought in Edinson Cavani a few months back, but I have to say that he was a complete disaster.

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Well, looks like we're going to start a new discussion and I'm quite bored to discuss Barcelona and Manchester United. as it seems, these two teams have never met at any level of competition apart from friendly matches. it seems, this match will not be as exciting as other matches, especially Manchester vs Barcelona. however, that does not mean that in the match later the two teams will not display an interesting game.

Ajax vs Union Berlin will probably be their first match in an official competition, as far as I know, because they have never met each other. I also searched for some of their matches and I found no record of any encounters other than friendlies.
You are right that maybe this match will not be as big as the match between Manchester United and Barcelona, but that does not mean this match will not be interesting. Because this is their first meeting so I think they will try to make a good record.

The match between Manchester United and Barcelona will attract more attention than any other match, I'm sure. Of course, the Ajax-Union Berlin matchup can be a fierce battle. Although the powers seem equal, Ajax seems to be one step ahead. Barcelona-Manchester match will attract more attention than this match.

We have discussed it regarding the Barcelona vs Manchester United match.

Of course, all attention will be on these two teams. because after all, Barcelona and Manchester United have a long history especially in the Champions League final. but so far, we have only discussed the two teams that will meet in the playoffs later. when in fact, there are still other teams that are no less exciting to show off matches in the playoffs later.

Like for example the Juventus vs FC Nantes match, as we all know Juventus did not perform well in the Champions League. Like any other match, Ajax vs Union Berlin is no less exciting, especially when we involve betting. however, regarding Ajax vs Union Berlin. we agree, that Ajax is one step ahead of Union Berlin. because after all, Ajax is an established team in their domestic league and just like Juventus who are more favored than Nates. but, anything can happen anyway they still have time to prepare their respective teams.

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I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

I also don't hear of any crisis in the Manchester United team right now, because apart from Manchester United still being able to win matches in the Premier League, the Manchester United team has also not had many serious problems lately, so it would be very inaccurate to say Manchester United in crisis. But for the Juventus team, there could be problems within the team, but I also don't know what problems Juventus are facing this season.

what you said is true, what crises are being faced by Manchester and Juventus, I see these two teams in good condition, especially Manchester United which is in good condition because Rashford is in top form

in the next match later (in February), barca will face MU and juventus will face Nantes, these 2 matches will be very important for MU and juventus

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I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

I also don't hear of any crisis in the Manchester United team right now, because apart from Manchester United still being able to win matches in the Premier League, the Manchester United team has also not had many serious problems lately, so it would be very inaccurate to say Manchester United in crisis. But for the Juventus team, there could be problems within the team, but I also don't know what problems Juventus are facing this season.

Manchester united are not having any crisis, the only issue we heard in Manchester was the issue of christiano Ronaldo, that was then . Manchester United is peaceful and only that but United, that is why they are able to win their matches they have been playing. Manchester United is becoming the club like the way they used to be.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 01, 2023, 09:26:04 PM

It would be so difficult for Manchester United if not for Rashford's surprising form. Presently, Manchester United does not have a good option for central 9. Martial abilities isn't good enough for the club to depend on, for that they are in the race to bring in Memphis depay or Joao Felix. If this can be completed anytime soon, this will be a big relieve for Manchester United midfield and Attacking line, and a huge deficiency on Barcelona squad because this two players needed by man united are already in Barca.. I pray Barca should make better plans ahead of the Europa league.

it seems that MU's hopes must now focus on bringing in Joao Felix. because Memphis depay has confirmed that he will stay in Barcelona.
MU's competitor to sign Joao Felix is Arsenal. and they too have hit a deadlock in negotiations. this is an opportunity for MU to move quickly.
whether it's a loan transfer or a purchase. I think MU must take into account Joao Felix's advantage of being in the squad.
to face Barcelona, I think MU needs fresher players on the front lines.

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It would be so difficult for Manchester United if not for Rashford's surprising form. Presently, Manchester United does not have a good option for central 9. Martial abilities isn't good enough for the club to depend on, for that they are in the race to bring in Memphis depay or Joao Felix. If this can be completed anytime soon, this will be a big relieve for Manchester United midfield and Attacking line, and a huge deficiency on Barcelona squad because this two players needed by man united are already in Barca.. I pray Barca should make better plans ahead of the Europa league.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on January 01, 2023, 04:03:47 PM

I think that it wouldn't be fair to write off Manchester United so soon in the tournament. Because they won the Europa League before and they qualified for the finale in the 2020/21 season also. Even in the times they play badly in the English Premier League they still manage to do better in the Europa League. Currently I can't say that they are that much bad in their domestic league. But we will see how effective they will maintain both tournaments at the same time.

Above all else, the Barcelona draw is very crucial. It is no different than a finale and the winner will have eliminated one of the title contenders already. I'm supporting Barcelona honestly but I can't fully trust them because of their losses against big teams until now.

It will be very difficult, because Barcelona is the top favorite to win, but due to the games they have had I am not convinced, I don't know what they are missing, I think maybe it is something like more luck? Manchester United is not in very good shape, they have many times to improve, also because of the last interview that CR7 did, it left them in a very bad shape, and to get up from something like this is very difficult, I think that it is something that we can give opr Given that CR7 is a person who gives a lot to a team, not only as a player but as a great influencer, if he speaks ill of a team obviously that team falls a lot, especially in their actions. I think that now Man United can give the same surprise as Barcelona, I don't see it as strong, and I don't see Barcelona as strong either.

A very interesting article:

Report: Europa League club set sights on signing 20-year-old on loan from Chelsea

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The Blues confirmed in December that they’ve reached a pre-agreement with Molde for the transfer of the young striker, which means he officially become a Blues player at the start of January.

He’s scored 24 goals in 65 Molde first-team appearances.

Is he ready to make an impact in the Chelsea first team yet, though?

Source: https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-europa-league-club-set-sights-on-signing-20-year-old-on-loan-from-chelsea/

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I think that it wouldn't be fair to write off Manchester United so soon in the tournament. Because they won the Europa League before and they qualified for the finale in the 2020/21 season also. Even in the times they play badly in the English Premier League they still manage to do better in the Europa League. Currently I can't say that they are that much bad in their domestic league. But we will see how effective they will maintain both tournaments at the same time.

Above all else, the Barcelona draw is very crucial. It is no different than a finale and the winner will have eliminated one of the title contenders already. I'm supporting Barcelona honestly but I can't fully trust them because of their losses against big teams until now.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 31, 2022, 04:41:55 PM

I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

I also don't hear of any crisis in the Manchester United team right now, because apart from Manchester United still being able to win matches in the Premier League, the Manchester United team has also not had many serious problems lately, so it would be very inaccurate to say Manchester United in crisis. But for the Juventus team, there could be problems within the team, but I also don't know what problems Juventus are facing this season.

With the increasing appearance of Manchester United at the moment, it is irrelevant to say that Manchester United is said to be in a state of crisis. Precisely now I tend to say Manchester United are in a better condition, in fact they are now in a phase of continuous improvement in the Premier League and continue to push their way up to the top of the table with the 2 wins they have won in their first 2 matches at this time.
Meanwhile, Juventus' problems are in its own management which is suspected of falsifying their financial reports and lying about the delivery of information. So maybe that's what a crisis means for Juventus.

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Well, looks like we're going to start a new discussion and I'm quite bored to discuss Barcelona and Manchester United. as it seems, these two teams have never met at any level of competition apart from friendly matches. it seems, this match will not be as exciting as other matches, especially Manchester vs Barcelona. however, that does not mean that in the match later the two teams will not display an interesting game.

Ajax vs Union Berlin will probably be their first match in an official competition, as far as I know, because they have never met each other. I also searched for some of their matches and I found no record of any encounters other than friendlies.
You are right that maybe this match will not be as big as the match between Manchester United and Barcelona, but that does not mean this match will not be interesting. Because this is their first meeting so I think they will try to make a good record.

The match between Manchester United and Barcelona will attract more attention than any other match, I'm sure. Of course, the Ajax-Union Berlin matchup can be a fierce battle. Although the powers seem equal, Ajax seems to be one step ahead. Barcelona-Manchester match will attract more attention than this match.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 31, 2022, 04:41:55 PM

I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

I also don't hear of any crisis in the Manchester United team right now, because apart from Manchester United still being able to win matches in the Premier League, the Manchester United team has also not had many serious problems lately, so it would be very inaccurate to say Manchester United in crisis. But for the Juventus team, there could be problems within the team, but I also don't know what problems Juventus are facing this season.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on January 01, 2023, 09:35:50 AM

Well, looks like we're going to start a new discussion and I'm quite bored to discuss Barcelona and Manchester United. as it seems, these two teams have never met at any level of competition apart from friendly matches. it seems, this match will not be as exciting as other matches, especially Manchester vs Barcelona. however, that does not mean that in the match later the two teams will not display an interesting game.

Ajax vs Union Berlin will probably be their first match in an official competition, as far as I know, because they have never met each other. I also searched for some of their matches and I found no record of any encounters other than friendlies.
You are right that maybe this match will not be as big as the match between Manchester United and Barcelona, but that does not mean this match will not be interesting. Because this is their first meeting so I think they will try to make a good record.

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I don't see United nowhere near the finals of Europa League this season and I also don't see them reaching semi-finals either. Why ? Well this team looks nothing like United and they are having a lot of internal problems in the club that are not surfacing around media and fans know this well. It would be a massive surprise if somehow United will win UEL and in my honest opinion , there are plenty other teams who are having better chances than them ...per example : Juventus.

But that doesn't stop them from playing in the final or semifinal, right? Everyone will notice that they are not the Manchester United we know then, but now they are heading for a change for the better. Erik Ten Hag carried out a difficult process because he had to build Manchester United from adversity first. He also couldn't immediately implement what he wanted because he had just joined Manchester United. They have the same opportunity as Barcelona.

I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

I think that both were going back to the their best performance. As far as i can see that if manchester united has been getting perfect results from a few matches in EPL. Juventus has not yet shown the current progress caused by serie a has not yet started. I think that it can be known easily if juventus and manchester united are good at this moment. We can take from the last five matches of juventus in serie a if juventus was always winning. That means juventus was also getting win streak too. Both were equal at this moment and there's no reason MU better than juventus in this case.

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Well, looks like we're going to start a new discussion and I'm quite bored to discuss Barcelona and Manchester United. as it seems, these two teams have never met at any level of competition apart from friendly matches. it seems, this match will not be as exciting as other matches, especially Manchester vs Barcelona. however, that does not mean that in the match later the two teams will not display an interesting game.

even so, I think after all for this fight Alfred Schreuder's troops are superior to Union Berlin. because after all, Ajax is a very tough team in its domestic league.

On the Berlin side, I doubt that Urs Fischer's men will focus more on the Europa League. the reason is, Union Berlin will struggle to maintain its ranking in its domestic league, what's more, they also want to finish in the top four of the Bundesliga. but, once again I have to say that Union Berlin is not a well-established team in terms of game. especially in the first leg, they played an away game. and it seems, Ajax will advance to the next round.

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. Ajax vs Berlin gonna be a very interesting match too. I would believe if there will be many surprises to come in february along with ucl.

Ajax and Union have not seen each other for a long time. and the meeting of the two of course will be interesting. team gatherings of equal strength, of course, will always attract attention. it is difficult to predict because Ajax also experiences ups and downs in its performance. Likewise, Union was once very strong at the top of the table, and eventually, they lost their consistency.
maybe it will be difficult to predict this match, but I will bet on Ajax.

I don't remember whether these two teams have met other than in their friendly match 2 years ago, and even then the match ended in a draw, 2-2. Apart from that match, have they ever met in official European competitions?
Ajax is one of the giant teams in the Eradivisie, while Union Berlin I can't say that they are a weak team, but I also can't say that they are a strong team. Even though they have sat at the top of the standings in a few weeks, in the end their position had to be couped by Bayern Munich, which has owned that position in the last decade. So I'm also likely to bet on Ajax in this match.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 31, 2022, 04:13:25 AM

Quote from: boltz on December 30, 2022, 10:48:40 AM

I don't see United nowhere near the finals of Europa League this season and I also don't see them reaching semi-finals either. Why ? Well this team looks nothing like United and they are having a lot of internal problems in the club that are not surfacing around media and fans know this well. It would be a massive surprise if somehow United will win UEL and in my honest opinion , there are plenty other teams who are having better chances than them ...per example : Juventus.

I'm not a fan of The Red Devils. however, referring to what you said. I believe the club's internal problems have passed, after Ronaldo's departure from Old Trafford. Currently, Ten Hag has brought United on the right track compared to previous coaches after the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson.

I agree that United are still a long way from getting close to the Europa League final. however, at least they still have the same opportunity as the other teams competing in this championship. some other rumors about reports that Manchester United will be sold, I'm sure if this happens and is acquired by another company or billionaire, Manchester United will soon return to its prime.

Speaking of Juventus, actually I don't have much information regarding Italian League clubs. however, according to some rumors I read that Juvetus' internal problems were more complicated than what happened to Manchester United. However, I cannot verify the validity of these rumors.

In essence, as a football lover I am happy to see matches that are very interesting and entertaining.

Juventus are currently scrapping all those involved in the mess away finally
Some five to six board of directors have successfully resigned
Ten Hag has full control over Man United in the way he disciplines the player's

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Quote from: sovie on December 30, 2022, 10:44:54 AM

I see Manchester United as more likely in this league. They have performed well in this league and have managed to win every match well. Hope they will play great in the next matches and move forward.

Let's see how it's going on against barcelona. Barcelona has become a worst dream for united in the so many matches. It's caused by MU was always losing against barcelona. It's quite easy to counter barcelona just like used parking bus strategy. MU has been coming back again after it was struggling with the performance due to the so many problems that happened in the internal of club. I can only hope if MU will be sending back barcelona to the la liga again same like when it was losing against frankfurt. Xavi has europa league as the only hope for barcelona to take the trophy.
Barcelona may still perform so well in the domestic league but barcelona lose points from the result against espanyol. MU will be also buying some new ammunitions during january to make the team even more stronger.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 31, 2022, 04:41:55 PM

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Quote from: boltz on December 30, 2022, 10:48:40 AM

I don't see United nowhere near the finals of Europa League this season and I also don't see them reaching semi-finals either. Why ? Well this team looks nothing like United and they are having a lot of internal problems in the club that are not surfacing around media and fans know this well. It would be a massive surprise if somehow United will win UEL and in my honest opinion , there are plenty other teams who are having better chances than them ...per example : Juventus.

But that doesn't stop them from playing in the final or semifinal, right? Everyone will notice that they are not the Manchester United we know then, but now they are heading for a change for the better. Erik Ten Hag carried out a difficult process because he had to build Manchester United from adversity first. He also couldn't immediately implement what he wanted because he had just joined Manchester United. They have the same opportunity as Barcelona.

I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

Yes, it's strange to compare him to Juventus because in reality Juventus are also experiencing problems, especially with their management or board. Because I think if you compare it with their management it is clear that Manchester United is still better and healthier, because even though Juventus at this moment also looks good in Serie A, in reality they have a more complicated problem regarding the case of document falsification.
So yes, it's totally wrong to compare Manchester United to Juventus but anyway, I personally believe Manchester United can beat Barcelona and Manchester United can go far in the Europa League this season.

Instead of comparing it to Juventus, I think it would be more correct to compare it to Arsenal because they are both on the rise and also they have healthier management than Juventus.
But yes, because Arsenal managed to win the group, of course Arsenal will play in the next play-off round, but at least that also proves that Arsenal this season are indeed better when compared to Manchester United who only finished runners up and Juventus who were eliminated from the Champions League.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 30, 2022, 12:33:31 PM

Quote from: boltz on December 30, 2022, 10:48:40 AM

I don't see United nowhere near the finals of Europa League this season and I also don't see them reaching semi-finals either. Why ? Well this team looks nothing like United and they are having a lot of internal problems in the club that are not surfacing around media and fans know this well. It would be a massive surprise if somehow United will win UEL and in my honest opinion , there are plenty other teams who are having better chances than them ...per example : Juventus.

But that doesn't stop them from playing in the final or semifinal, right? Everyone will notice that they are not the Manchester United we know then, but now they are heading for a change for the better. Erik Ten Hag carried out a difficult process because he had to build Manchester United from adversity first. He also couldn't immediately implement what he wanted because he had just joined Manchester United. They have the same opportunity as Barcelona.

I don't know what boltz is saying. Manchester United and Juventus who is in more crisis.
Manchester United is back to form and as we can see they are winning matches.
I don't think that Juventus is anywhere better than Manchester United in form and management.

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Actually I can't say that Barcelona are perfect now either. Because they have had serious problems in big matches as we all know very well from the ones they have played so far. Lewandowski was very ineffective as well in those matches but the team performance was also bad. It didn't change no matter in what tournament they played. I'm wondering about this the most as a result. Xavi had a very much time in the World Cup break to think of a solution for this. Because it means everything to the team.

If they don't make progress about this then I won't be surprised even if Manchester United eliminate them in the Europa League. As a result it is still early to be sure of anything about this draw.

Barcelona's Europa League match against Manchester United is still so long ago and in that match Barcelona hosted the first leg, so I'm not really worried about that. Surely Xavi will evaluate all the players and performance during this season, plus Barcelona still have about 1 month more to prepare against the red devil squad. So I think Lewandowski will still be the first choice in attack and I think Man United must prepare everything for this match.

It's going to be a very difficult fight, it will take both teams to play at 100% for them to have even a slight chance because they are equally great teams and it's very funny for me to see them match up in europa because there are worse teams in UCL right now, it is just a problem with their groups, like Barcelona failed with Inter and all.

In the end, we are going to see just one of them go further and that is sad because there will still be worse teams but because of the matchup one of the great teams will be gone. I just hope that whoever wins this game, ends up winning the cup so that the loser will feel at least a bit good about the loss to the eventual champions.

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