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July 18, 2024, 08:19:13 AM
What a sad one is for Macnhester United again has to play this tournament, i can feel all your fans being very pissed and playing this competition full of sorrow, because you know in the deep of you hearth the thing that Macnhester United is a team for Champions League and not this second tier tournament.
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July 18, 2024, 05:51:19 AM
-snip- Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.
Spending a lot of money will not make a team a strong team. A similar thing also happened to Chelsea in the previous few seasons where they made many mistakes in buying players. Chelsea has spent around 319 million pounds sterling to spend on players in the summer of 2023. And as a result, Chelsea only managed to finish in sixth place in the standings at the end of last season. They also failed to reach the UEL after United managed to win the FA Cup. I can say that Chelsea suffered a big loss because the results did not match expectations. So far only Cole Palmer has contributed significantly to the team and is Chelsea's best purchase so far.

A coach needs to know what his squad needs before buying players. Weaknesses of the team should be identified. But Ten Hag has completely failed to identify his squad's weaknesses. And that's why he couldn't stabilize the Manchester United team even in 2 years. Manchester United management provided large funds to Ten Hag for player purchases. Ten Hag invests money in young players. But Manchester United needed an experienced striker. Had the Ten Hag added an experienced striker to his squad, perhaps we would have seen a more organised gameplay from Manchester United last season.

However, not all teams that spend a lot of money to buy players then fail to get good results, such as the failures experienced by Chelsea and Manchester United. Because after all, there are still many other teams that have spent a lot of money and the results have also been successful, perhaps, for example, Liverpool and Manchester City. Therefore,  there are two possibilities for a team to succeed or fail after spending a lot of money to buy a lot of new players and also recruiting a new coach.

But indeed, basically the team will be successful because it has a coach and has the right management. Because after all, a great coach is certainly able to make players who were previously mediocre into successful players with good quality and performance. Although indeed, having quality players will make it easier for the coach to work to make the team perform well. So yes, in this case ofcourse all lines play an important role in actually getting success and trophies.
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July 18, 2024, 05:26:08 AM
When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
We cannot deny that Man Uniet's history in football cannot be ignored until now and that is why there are still many fans who are loyal to the club because of its extraordinary achievements in the past.

Man United has won 20 league titles.
It's in 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 .
Yes, unfortunately after 2013, achievements really dropped and are not progressing well even now.

3x UEFA Champions League (UCL)
This happened in 1968, 1999 and 2008. Will Man United be able to make this history again> Obviously not this year, because they only got to the UEFA Europa League.

And there are still many other trophies that make Man United a Premier League giant.

However, that is history, because after that, even up to now, nothing has changed and Man United is getting worse.

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Sir Alex Ferguson became the coach who managed to lead Manchester United to victory during his coaching period, there is no other team in England that can currently match Manchester United's record of winning the trophy, but after Ferguson withdrew, Manchester United slowly began to decline and they continued to change coaches but no one was able to lift Manchester United performance for the better, Actually the club history can be a guideline for the coach to make Manchester United rise from the slump but on the side the club history can also be a burden for the current coach  in restore glory, currently Ten Hag is the coach of Manchester United and maybe we will not see him can make Manchester return in a positive direction because his ego , Ten Hag is actually a good coach but maybe he is still not able to restore the glory of Manchester United today.
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July 18, 2024, 03:34:54 AM
-snip- Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.
Spending a lot of money will not make a team a strong team. A similar thing also happened to Chelsea in the previous few seasons where they made many mistakes in buying players. Chelsea has spent around 319 million pounds sterling to spend on players in the summer of 2023. And as a result, Chelsea only managed to finish in sixth place in the standings at the end of last season. They also failed to reach the UEL after United managed to win the FA Cup. I can say that Chelsea suffered a big loss because the results did not match expectations. So far only Cole Palmer has contributed significantly to the team and is Chelsea's best purchase so far.

A coach needs to know what his squad needs before buying players. Weaknesses of the team should be identified. But Ten Hag has completely failed to identify his squad's weaknesses. And that's why he couldn't stabilize the Manchester United team even in 2 years. Manchester United management provided large funds to Ten Hag for player purchases. Ten Hag invests money in young players. But Manchester United needed an experienced striker. Had the Ten Hag added an experienced striker to his squad, perhaps we would have seen a more organised gameplay from Manchester United last season.
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July 18, 2024, 02:58:33 AM

Ten Hag have been given one last chance by Manchester United management. He was in charge of Manchester United for two seasons. But we don't see any improvement in Manchester United. Rather, we have seen the deterioration of Manchester United's performance. Although Manchester United managed to qualify for the Champions League in the previous season, this season Manchester United finished eighth in the table. Manchester United were weak both in attack and defence. However, Manchester United management did not fire their club Ten Hag.

Manchester United are again relying on the Ten Hag. And Ten Hag will provide full support to strengthen United's squad. If Ten Hag still fails then Ten Hag will be fully responsible. And even then I don't think Manchester United management will give Ten Hag another chance.

Lol, Erik ten Hag saw his contract extended by two years if I'm not mistaking, not on last chance by Manchester United. They're cool with him for the future.
How can you say Manchester United hasn't seen improvement? Since the retirement of Sir Alex Ferguson, who has taken Manchester United to three finals in two years? Who has won back to back trophies for Manchester United? Y'all want big things but fail to understand that, celebrating the little things leads to the bigger things. So much improvements have been seen since Erik Ten Hag took over.

Y'all talk like Manchester United wasn't in a bad state before he took over, even with Ralf Rangnick, Ole Gunner Solskjaer, , Manchester United suffered heavily. Even Ralf Rangnick said Manchester United should wipe the sqaud, leaving two to three players alone, called out tue management which was the same reason they part ways with him.

Erik Ten Hag had a bad season, he has taken responsibility and will do better this season as much as he has enough squad depth. Breaks my heart to see that football fans these days are not patient enough, yet again, Rome wasn't built in a day. So much negativity, from comment, what if everything goes fine with/for Erik Ten Hag?
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July 18, 2024, 02:09:11 AM
The last time that Manchester United won the Europa League competition they weren't playing the way they are playing now and their attacking force was far better than what we are seeing now likewise the defensive line. The team may have all the experience in the competition but it takes a team with good performance and consistency in winning matches to advance to the finals of a competition but I don't see that ability in the Manchester United team right now unless they get better.

I can't accept that Manchester United don't have a strong squad. Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. However, if their squad is not strong then it is entirely the failure of the coach and management. Manchester United management spent 96 million to add Antony to the squad. Manchester United paid 75 million for Hojlund. Then the performance of the attacking players of this team is poor. Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.

Man United has indeed spent a lot of money on their players but, the reason they failed was not entirely because they chose the wrong players. You also have to look at the fact that they also faced a quite serious injury crisis last season and because of this, Ten Hag doesn't have many options to play with their best squad in every match.

Whoever the coach is will definitely have a headache if they are faced with an injury crisis throughout the season.
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July 18, 2024, 01:32:19 AM
Looking at this post now I laugh so hard, you must’ve said it with all confidence and now the team which no one expected won it. Football is absolutely unpredictable that’s the Fun of it lol.
Sorry Liverpool fan
It's such a normal thing in football that it's not only fun to watch, but it's also fun to see how many people are predicting. Because when you see everyone who loves a team and says that the team will win, I think that is the hope of every fan and clearly it won't be a problem whatsoever even if in the end they lose and don't become champions. Next season looks like it will be even more exciting because there are several big teams that have to be here apart from several other teams that have to come here via the UCL route.
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July 17, 2024, 10:17:28 PM
-snip- Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.
Spending a lot of money will not make a team a strong team. A similar thing also happened to Chelsea in the previous few seasons where they made many mistakes in buying players. Chelsea has spent around 319 million pounds sterling to spend on players in the summer of 2023. And as a result, Chelsea only managed to finish in sixth place in the standings at the end of last season. They also failed to reach the UEL after United managed to win the FA Cup. I can say that Chelsea suffered a big loss because the results did not match expectations. So far only Cole Palmer has contributed significantly to the team and is Chelsea's best purchase so far.

-snip- Basically, big teams like Barcelona, ​​Liverpool or Arsenal do not take Europa League seriously. This is why we don't see these big teams performing well in the Europa League.
I think the top teams also play seriously in UEL. The European League is the second prestigious league after the UCL so there is no reason for them to make the UEL just an amateur league. But there are several teams who are more concerned with chasing the domestic league champions and that makes them not prioritize UEL.
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July 17, 2024, 10:09:49 PM
Manchester United is quite old and big team compared to other European League teams, so the European League spotlight will definitely be on Manchester United. But only considering the statistics will not mean that Manchester United must perform well but Manchester United can do well in the Europa League.
Of course Manchester United is a big team and has a long history. United plays in the UCL more often than the UEL, therefore Manchester United will be one of the teams that will be highlighted in the UEL this season. But we can also see that United's performance is not good enough in the League. They can play at UEL because they won the FA cup but they are ranked eighth in the final standings. I doubt United will do well in the UEL. But Ten Hag will make several player purchases and that means we cannot look at their performance this season as a reference. They succeeded in recruiting Zirkzee who will strengthen the attack line. So hopefully United can perform well in the UEL.
Although Manchester City has performed very well recently, if you still consider the difference between Manchester United and Manchester City in terms of supporters, you will now see that Manchester United has more fans than Manchester City.  I'm a Real Madrid fan and if there's one club I love in the Premier League it's Manchester United. We know Manchester United as an old club and we are aware that this club has done well in the past although they have not been performing well recently. Manchester United have underperformed in the Premier League tournament for two seasons in a row, particularly in the last season, which saw them qualify for the Europa League next season without qualifying for the Champions League. Since they have not done well in the Champions League for a few seasons, they must take the Europa League tournament seriously and plan how to win the league tournament title.
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July 17, 2024, 06:51:57 PM
The last time that Manchester United won the Europa League competition they weren't playing the way they are playing now and their attacking force was far better than what we are seeing now likewise the defensive line. The team may have all the experience in the competition but it takes a team with good performance and consistency in winning matches to advance to the finals of a competition but I don't see that ability in the Manchester United team right now unless they get better.

I can't accept that Manchester United don't have a strong squad. Manchester United have spent a lot of money building their squad. However, if their squad is not strong then it is entirely the failure of the coach and management. Manchester United management spent 96 million to add Antony to the squad. Manchester United paid 75 million for Hojlund. Then the performance of the attacking players of this team is poor. Although Manchester United spent a lot of money, they failed to select the right players for their squad.


You have given a typical example to what happened last season when everyone expected Liverpool to be the favorite team to lift the Europa League trophy but we saw them being eliminated and Atalanta and Bayer Leverkusen advancing to the finals, United can win the Europa next season if they improve in performance but it is not certain because there are other good clubs in the competition.

Last season I also thought Liverpool and Leverkusen would play in the Europa League final. But Liverpool were eliminated from the Europa League after losing against Atalanta. Basically, big teams like Barcelona, ​​Liverpool or Arsenal do not take Europa League seriously. This is why we don't see these big teams performing well in the Europa League.
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July 17, 2024, 06:50:33 PM
When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
We cannot deny that Man Uniet's history in football cannot be ignored until now and that is why there are still many fans who are loyal to the club because of its extraordinary achievements in the past.

Man United has won 20 league titles.
It's in 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013 .
Yes, unfortunately after 2013, achievements really dropped and are not progressing well even now.

3x UEFA Champions League (UCL)
This happened in 1968, 1999 and 2008. Will Man United be able to make this history again> Obviously not this year, because they only got to the UEFA Europa League.

And there are still many other trophies that make Man United a Premier League giant.

However, that is history, because after that, even up to now, nothing has changed and Man United is getting worse.

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Source: MU Honours
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July 17, 2024, 06:04:20 PM
Easy demolition job for Liverpool this year, even the reserves are good enough for the group stages here. Only West Ham, Roma, Villareal and some others are going to be tricky. I'm not accounting for teams who will drop down from champions league though (Newcastle for example will almost definitely drop) but there's enough quality in our squad to dismantle them all too.Even Sevilla.
Looking at this post now I laugh so hard, you must’ve said it with all confidence and now the team which no one expected won it. Football is absolutely unpredictable that’s the Fun of it lol.
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July 17, 2024, 05:13:53 PM
Of course Manchester United is a big team and has a long history. United plays in the UCL more often than the UEL, therefore Manchester United will be one of the teams that will be highlighted in the UEL this season. But we can also see that United's performance is not good enough in the League. They can play at UEL because they won the FA cup but they are ranked eighth in the final standings. I doubt United will do well in the UEL. But Ten Hag will make several player purchases and that means we cannot look at their performance this season as a reference. They succeeded in recruiting Zirkzee who will strengthen the attack line. So hopefully United can perform well in the UEL.
I understand that you are seeing Manchester United as a supposed big team of which by their track record which you briefly retraced, this can be made substantial but a quick look at the UEL last season and you will agree to the fact that eve the top teams couldn't Make it to lifting the trophy, Liverpool was one of the most highlighted team in the last season UEL but even in their tough and good form, they couldn't last till the end of the season, that has made me believe that the chances Manchester United eventually wins the Europa isn't of any certainty rather it's in almost what I consider equal measures with almost every other team who happens to be in the tournament. So with Manchester United my expectations are just as same as with every other team in the league.

The last time that Manchester United won the Europa League competition they weren't playing the way they are playing now and their attacking force was far better than what we are seeing now likewise the defensive line. The team may have all the experience in the competition but it takes a team with good performance and consistency in winning matches to advance to the finals of a competition but I don't see that ability in the Manchester United team right now unless they get better.

You have given a typical example to what happened last season when everyone expected Liverpool to be the favorite team to lift the Europa League trophy but we saw them being eliminated and Atalanta and Bayer Leverkusen advancing to the finals, United can win the Europa next season if they improve in performance but it is not certain because there are other good clubs in the competition.
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July 17, 2024, 04:52:06 PM
Of course Manchester United is a big team and has a long history. United plays in the UCL more often than the UEL, therefore Manchester United will be one of the teams that will be highlighted in the UEL this season. But we can also see that United's performance is not good enough in the League. They can play at UEL because they won the FA cup but they are ranked eighth in the final standings. I doubt United will do well in the UEL. But Ten Hag will make several player purchases and that means we cannot look at their performance this season as a reference. They succeeded in recruiting Zirkzee who will strengthen the attack line. So hopefully United can perform well in the UEL.
I understand that you are seeing Manchester United as a supposed big team of which by their track record which you briefly retraced, this can be made substantial but a quick look at the UEL last season and you will agree to the fact that eve the top teams couldn't Make it to lifting the trophy, Liverpool was one of the most highlighted team in the last season UEL but even in their tough and good form, they couldn't last till the end of the season, that has made me believe that the chances Manchester United eventually wins the Europa isn't of any certainty rather it's in almost what I consider equal measures with almost every other team who happens to be in the tournament. So with Manchester United my expectations are just as same as with every other team in the league.
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July 17, 2024, 03:48:04 PM
Last season became the worst season in Manchester United history even though they managed to win the FA Cup and save their face from missing played on the Europa League, but it is not something impressive and worthy of pride for Manchester United fans today, although Ten Hag continues to receive pressure to withdraw from previous Manchester United fans but now the management still entrusts Ten Hag as a coach to restore their glory next seasons.
Playing in the Europa League is not a competition that Manchester United have been unfamiliar with in the last 10 seasons, so it doesn't seem like we should underestimate them so quickly at the moment, Ten Hag is currently focused on improving the squad they have so it will be difficult for us to rule them out as favorites next season in the Europa League title race.
I would say finishing sixth and not getting any cup neither would be worse, for the past two years they got two cups, finished third once and was in UCL this season. I understand that it may not look good how they finished the league and that's understandable, there is nothing wrong with that and if people are feeling like that's a bad one then that's a bad one.

Fans however, feels like it is not going to be all that important, we need to make sure that it is not really that crazy changes, if you try to overhaul a whole team just because of one bad season, then you are not going to get anything that will change much, it should not be considered at all. I believe that we should see slow and gradual good improvements on the team, if they can do that then they are going to get a good result, that seems like the most important part.

If we could somehow manage to do that, then we are going to end up with a United that team gradually becomes better as well, and results will follow. But if they keep trying to fix the team by throwing money at the problem, then we are not going to get anything good out of it, results will be lackluster. They tried that once, and we have seen how the result turned out.
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July 17, 2024, 01:06:35 PM
When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
There are many things that Manchester United need to change next season because they themselves must be aware that last season they did not appear so impressive even though the FA Cup saved them from being able to take them to the Europa League next season. So Manchester United themselves do not have to be satisfied with what they got last season because in general there are still many things they need to improve in order to start next season very well. Especially in terms of recruiting players and also in implementing more extraordinary tactics from the start of the season.
Manchester United last season not expectations and they can be said to be one of the big teams that has performed quite poorly compared to other big teams, although the management of Manchester United understands what happened to their squad last season but so far they still trust ten hag as a coach, so maybe we will not see much change next season to happen,  But Manchester United very active transfer activity at the moment allows fans to hope for a lot if next season Manchester United can get back on track and be able to compete in the domestic league and Europa League, Ten Hag last season failed to make Manchester United end the season in the Champions League zone, but next season Ten Hag can prove his ability to win the championship trophy in both the domestic league and the Europa League, The Europa League trophy in particular can be used as a way for Ten Hag to regain the trust of Manchester United fans later, although the Europa League is indeed a European second-tier competition but the Europa League trophy is still a prestigious trophy besides the Champions League trophy so far.
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July 17, 2024, 05:25:38 AM
Last season became the worst season in Manchester United history even though they managed to win the FA Cup and save their face from missing played on the Europa League, but it is not something impressive and worthy of pride for Manchester United fans today, although Ten Hag continues to receive pressure to withdraw from previous Manchester United fans but now the management still entrusts Ten Hag as a coach to restore their glory next seasons.

Why TenHag was sacked by Manchester United management is a mystery. Because we heard rumors that Manchester United will sack Ten Hag and United management are looking for a new coach. But in the end we saw Manchester United management trust ten Hag once again.

Manchester United won the FA Cup last season. They were very lucky. However, Manchester United's performance in Europa League or Champions League was very poor and erratic. The overall performance of the team was not stable. The bonding between the players was very weak. For these reasons, Manchester United was in eighth place in the table last season.


Playing in the Europa League is not a competition that Manchester United have been unfamiliar with in the last 10 seasons, so it doesn't seem like we should underestimate them so quickly at the moment, Ten Hag is currently focused on improving the squad they have so it will be difficult for us to rule them out as favorites next season in the Europa League title race.

Ten Hag and United management are once again looking to strengthen United's squad. But there is no telling if ten Hag will succeed. Once again the United management is spending a lot of money to strengthen their squad. But I feel like Ten Hag is going to waste money again like the last two seasons.
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July 17, 2024, 04:14:42 AM
When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
There are many things that Manchester United need to change next season because they themselves must be aware that last season they did not appear so impressive even though the FA Cup saved them from being able to take them to the Europa League next season. So Manchester United themselves do not have to be satisfied with what they got last season because in general there are still many things they need to improve in order to start next season very well. Especially in terms of recruiting players and also in implementing more extraordinary tactics from the start of the season.
Last season became the worst season in Manchester United history even though they managed to win the FA Cup and save their face from missing played on the Europa League, but it is not something impressive and worthy of pride for Manchester United fans today, although Ten Hag continues to receive pressure to withdraw from previous Manchester United fans but now the management still entrusts Ten Hag as a coach to restore their glory next seasons.
Playing in the Europa League is not a competition that Manchester United have been unfamiliar with in the last 10 seasons, so it doesn't seem like we should underestimate them so quickly at the moment, Ten Hag is currently focused on improving the squad they have so it will be difficult for us to rule them out as favorites next season in the Europa League title race.
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July 17, 2024, 01:49:40 AM
When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.
There are many things that Manchester United need to change next season because they themselves must be aware that last season they did not appear so impressive even though the FA Cup saved them from being able to take them to the Europa League next season. So Manchester United themselves do not have to be satisfied with what they got last season because in general there are still many things they need to improve in order to start next season very well. Especially in terms of recruiting players and also in implementing more extraordinary tactics from the start of the season.
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July 16, 2024, 05:08:39 PM
Manchester United is quite old and big team compared to other European League teams, so the European League spotlight will definitely be on Manchester United. But only considering the statistics will not mean that Manchester United must perform well but Manchester United can do well in the Europa League.
Of course Manchester United is a big team and has a long history. United plays in the UCL more often than the UEL, therefore Manchester United will be one of the teams that will be highlighted in the UEL this season. But we can also see that United's performance is not good enough in the League. They can play at UEL because they won the FA cup but they are ranked eighth in the final standings. I doubt United will do well in the UEL. But Ten Hag will make several player purchases and that means we cannot look at their performance this season as a reference. They succeeded in recruiting Zirkzee who will strengthen the attack line. So hopefully United can perform well in the UEL.
When bring the previous historical about the Manchester united is a big team compared to their currently performance, how they been perform so far in all last but some say that Manchester united performance is good and exist better, but Manchester united performance is very poorly in the leagues both the champion league and the premier league, their performance is not enough that they count them among of the team that can able to do well in the league next season.

They can make the their performance better in the Europe since I can see some people's are hype them that their performance is more very strong in the Europe league than others league, let see how they can turn the UEF in the season since although that it has been a while that manchester won the league is only the FA cup that they wom as of recently.
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