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Quote from: junder on October 09, 2024, 01:11:41 PM

Quote from: hyudien on October 09, 2024, 11:00:09 AM

If you compare these two teams, Lazio is better, but as you said Twente is not as bad as imagined. When they can be in the European League, you should be able to see that they are not an ordinary team, but when compared to names like Lazio, they are still slightly below Lazio. However, in the European League like this, this is not a guarantee, because there are many surprises that occur, especially Twente will definitely try their best to do their best. If you look at it at a glance, then I will not deny that I will choose the team that is stronger on paper, that is the easiest way to bet. However, in football it is not that simple, there are many factors that can make a team win a match, luck for example.

I agree it is very clear on paper that Lazio is more superior and they have more experience in the European league but in this match Lazio must visit Twente's headquarters and it must be remembered that they were able to hold Man United to a draw at Old Trafford although it is undeniable that Man United's strength is not at its true level but that is a good motivation for Twente for the next match it is not impossible that they can win the match against Lazio later, football is full of surprises unexpected events will always be present, I believe there are some bettors who bet on Twente even so if I had to choose of course I would avoid this bet, the European league is now very difficult to predict, the superior team can be disappointing.

Playing at home will also be something that can benefit the team playing at their home base, and this will be felt by Twente. They also have good capital when holding a big team from the English League to a draw, yes, even though as you said they are not at their best level, but still the draw will be a boost that can raise the morale of the Twente players.
Lazio must be aware of what Twente can do in this match, don't let them underestimate their opponents. Because if that happens then something bad will happen to them. Lazio is in the lead on paper, they must prove that they can also excel on the field until the end of the match.

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Quote from: len01 on October 09, 2024, 10:15:42 PM

From my previous speculation that I have said here that Lazio does have the advantage to be able to beat Twente. But actually these things are influenced by the formation and strategy used. I am sure Twente will prefer a defensive formation and provide 5 players in the defense line. And all of that with the aim of Twente wanting to hold the match to a draw. Lazio must also have the right formation to be able to break through Twente goal with a superior number to get the win. In my opinion Lazio must rely on wingers. That is Twente's weakness.

It will not be easy for Lazio who will visit Twente's home ground, although Lazio is currently in the best position in Europe but Twente has just played against Morinho's team and the result was a draw for them, Twente played quite well with their strategy and I don't think they will play with 5 defenders instead they play with 4-2-3-1 and indeed their formation is like that, they are quite good at defending they like to play with power and everyone plays quite well in their respective positions so I think in Lazio's away match to Twente's headquarters it will be difficult for Lazio to win. Lazio currently has 6 points and that's quite good with 2 big wins but Twente who are in the bottom position certainly want to take advantage of the home win to add to their points so they can be in a safe position. I'm sure there will be plenty of room for Twente to score goals and vice versa. Lazio but I don't think this match will be easy to win. Lazio I will bet on a draw because Twente is quite solid when playing at home.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 09, 2024, 03:18:41 PM

Quote from: hyudien on October 09, 2024, 11:00:09 AM

If you compare these two teams, Lazio is better, but as you said Twente is not as bad as imagined. When they can be in the European League, you should be able to see that they are not an ordinary team, but when compared to names like Lazio, they are still slightly below Lazio. However, in the European League like this, this is not a guarantee, because there are many surprises that occur, especially Twente will definitely try their best to do their best. If you look at it at a glance, then I will not deny that I will choose the team that is stronger on paper, that is the easiest way to bet. However, in football it is not that simple, there are many factors that can make a team win a match, luck for example.

Literally Twenty did draw their game against Manchester united, they almost won but didn't have the opportunity enough, even if i know Manchester united is in one of their worse forms, twenty drawing against them is enough to not underestimate twenty but i still believe that they could trouble Lazio a little even if Lazio is appearing better and could win them at the end of the day but they aren't to be underestimated, Lazio i know will do better than Manchester united did hopefully, after all they are more experienced than Twenty.

From my previous speculation that I have said here that Lazio does have the advantage to be able to beat Twente. But actually these things are influenced by the formation and strategy used. I am sure Twente will prefer a defensive formation and provide 5 players in the defense line. And all of that with the aim of Twente wanting to hold the match to a draw. Lazio must also have the right formation to be able to break through Twente goal with a superior number to get the win. In my opinion Lazio must rely on wingers. That is Twente's weakness.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on October 06, 2024, 11:01:33 AM

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Yes and in an interview Ivan Juric stated as if he had worked very well and did not accept when there was lot of bad talk about AS Roma performance and defeat against team that actually had much lower level than them, but this is ridiculous because defeat is still defeat and of course there will be lot of negative sentiment so they have to be able to accept it.

But indeed in that match, statistics show how Roma's dominance and many attacks were much greater than their opponents. However, all of that was in vain because it was ineffective and there were no goals at all, IF Elfsborg was indeed quite lucky because they got a penalty kick opportunity, and Roma was very unlucky with that. But behind all that, the point is that Roma's game at that time was not optimal and still wasted many opportunities. We'll see in the next matches, how they develop under Ivan Juric. In Serie A, Roma did get a win in their last match.

AS Roma could not perform consistently whether in Serie-A or Europa League matches, showing that they still could not perform optimally, indeed in Serie-A they still got good results several times but there were many mistakes and setbacks in almost every match so that this triggered a less than optimal performance in the Europa League.
Next AS Roma will face Dynamo Kyiv which is one of the strongest teams in the Ukrainian League but this is home match for AS Roma and of course on paper they have the advantage to win even though it is not guaranteed.
If in this match AS Roma can really win then it is good development as Ivan Juric said about the increasing quality, there are many team that are quite weak and not so popular in the Europa League so that it opens up many opportunities for several European team including AS Roma.
That way if they fail and are eliminated more quickly until they do not enter the last 16 or quarter-finals then it is failure for AS Roma in the Europa League at the beginning of Ivan Juric leadership.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 09, 2024, 02:12:44 PM

Since Osimhen joined Gala, I haven't had the chance to watch this team's performance. So, I can't judge or give my opinion regarding the performance of the team coached by Okan Buruk. In addition, it seems that Osimhen's performance has not shown sharpness for the Galatasaray squad. Whether it's in the Domestic League, even though they are at the top of the standings.

Yes, it is undeniable that Osimhen's contribution at Galatasaray is quite good even though it was at the beginning of the match with them. From this statistic, we can see that at least he has contributed 2 goals and 4 assists both in the Super Lig and the Europa League. And unfortunately in yesterday's match, he got a muscle strain.

Source: Victor Osimhen in Galatasaray

I have no doubt about Osimhen's performance, because he is indeed a talented player. At Galatasaray he has a wider opportunity to optimize his abilities, especially in the upcoming match in the Europa League against IF Elfsborg.

He previously had an injury but it has been confirmed that he can return to the squad on October 19 when he returns.
https://punchng.com/osimhen-confirms-october-19-return/

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on October 09, 2024, 02:12:44 PM

Since Osimhen joined Gala, I haven't had the chance to watch this team's performance. So, I can't judge or give my opinion regarding the performance of the team coached by Okan Buruk. In addition, it seems that Osimhen's performance has not shown sharpness for the Galatasaray squad. Whether it's in the Domestic League, even though they are at the top of the standings. Or in the Europa League group stage which has not been able to contribute a single goal. It's natural, he is a newcomer who has only played in 4 matches with Galatasaray. 1 in the Europa League, 3 in the Domestic League. If you look at Galatasaray in their Domestic League, it seems that they are very strong with a 4 point lead over the team below them.

Don't judge his perform in that manner as he has being a good addition to the team. He's just starting his journey at Galatasaray therefore we shouldn't expect everything to be going smoothly for him. He needs some time to adapt to the new environment and his new home but still he hasn't started badly as he has an assist and goal already while being a player for Galatasaray. Victor Osimhen is currently injured therefore there isn't much that he can do but the supporters shouldn't think that Victor Osimhen can't deliver them as that has being what he was being doing from day one in other clubs that he has played for. The supporters should just give him sometime.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 09, 2024, 01:50:07 PM

Fenerbahce is a good team I must say, and they are currently been managed by former Manchester United coach Jose Mourinho. The match will be tough because it will be a must win game for Mourinho since he was sacked at Manchester United. And for Ten Hag, it will be a test for him because his job is at risk and he will need to win any game that came his way now.
Manchester United that will be playing away from home needs to be very careful since they needed to win the game in order to make their fans happy and to have a live hope in the Europa League because now they are out of the favorites due to their poor start in the Europa league.

This is going to be a very interesting fixture. I would not want to miss it because I trust Jose Mourinho will be looking to prove himself worthy against his former club bosses…..make them feel regret for sacking him and want to consider bringing him back for the second time. Ten Hag on the other hand will be fighting to secure his job and continue as Manchester United’s manger. Ten Hag better not lose this game if he likes his job, he may have the backing of the club’s hierarchy but the fans also have the power to force his sack.

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Quote from: pusaka on October 09, 2024, 08:41:10 AM

Manchester United cannot be expected this season, I even see them declining compared to last season.

I don’t really see much difference in their performance between last season and current season, their performance has been poor since last season which is really bad. Whenever Manchester United are playing match now, most people are always expecting a loss or draw from them, even when they are playing against weak teams. Manchester United haven’t been able to win any of their Europa match, they have played two matches, and all they could get in the two matches they played was a draw. Their next match will be against Fenerbahce, and I am expecting them to draw or lose the match.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 09, 2024, 03:18:41 PM

Literally Twenty did draw their game against Manchester united, they almost won but didn't have the opportunity enough, even if i know Manchester united is in one of their worse forms, twenty drawing against them is enough to not underestimate twenty but i still believe that they could trouble Lazio a little even if Lazio is appearing better and could win them at the end of the day but they aren't to be underestimated, Lazio i know will do better than Manchester united did hopefully, after all they are more experienced than Twenty.

First of all, it's "Twente" not "Twenty" Grin

Second, yeah, they did decent in that game against Man United, but that's definitely due to United's massive dip in performance.
Serie A is on a different level than the Dutch Eredivisie, and both teams are currently placed 4th in their respective leagues, so I think Lazio being favourite with odds of x2.20 is pretty fair. The most that Twente can hope for is probably another draw, unless Lazio doesn't take the Europa League seriously and want to focus on Serie A.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 09, 2024, 11:00:09 AM

If you compare these two teams, Lazio is better, but as you said Twente is not as bad as imagined. When they can be in the European League, you should be able to see that they are not an ordinary team, but when compared to names like Lazio, they are still slightly below Lazio. However, in the European League like this, this is not a guarantee, because there are many surprises that occur, especially Twente will definitely try their best to do their best. If you look at it at a glance, then I will not deny that I will choose the team that is stronger on paper, that is the easiest way to bet. However, in football it is not that simple, there are many factors that can make a team win a match, luck for example.

Literally Twenty did draw their game against Manchester united, they almost won but didn't have the opportunity enough, even if i know Manchester united is in one of their worse forms, twenty drawing against them is enough to not underestimate twenty but i still believe that they could trouble Lazio a little even if Lazio is appearing better and could win them at the end of the day but they aren't to be underestimated, Lazio i know will do better than Manchester united did hopefully, after all they are more experienced than Twenty.

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Quote from: tygeade on October 09, 2024, 02:48:03 PM

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To be fair Twente isn't as bad as you might think, but could be not great either, I am not entirely sure. I would give Lazio a chance to win of course, but I wouldn't consider Twente to do nothing neither, they may try their best and possibly do something this game too. This is why I have hopes about them having a chance of getting at least a draw.
Europa has been quite complicated so far, I am not sure who will win against who, betting on it is very tough, hell even UCL has been tough and making me lose, so I can't say European competitions are great this season. I haven't checked conference league to be fair, I am not going to lie I don't know what's going on there, maybe it's easier to gamble there, but for these two competitions things are tough.

People do not consider Twente to lose for sure neither, Lazio doesn't have like 1.40 odds or anything like that, they have 2.20 odds in most places. Meaning, while Lazio is the favourite to win, having 2.20 means they are not really high favourites or going to dominate, anything could happen. This is why we need to make sure we are dealing with a period where it is going to take some time for us to learn who will win.
There are some easier games, betting on them looks like it would be smarter, Galatasaray should be able to beat Elfsborg, Frankfurt should be beating RFS, Ajax should beat Qarabag, Nice should beat Frencvaros, these are games that I think should be easier to bet and we would make more profit from these games.

As Lazio team has won both their matches, Lazio team is considered as favorite in the upcoming match as well. The Lazio team is very strong this season. And not only in the Europa League, but also in the Serie A matches we have seen better performances from Lazio.

But I think winning against Twente will not be an easy task for Lazio. Twente failed to win either of the two matches. However, they have managed to share points with strong opponents like Fenerbahçe and Manchester United. The defense of this team is very strong. And that's why I think it will be difficult for Lazio to win. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the match is a draw.

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Quote from: beerlover on October 09, 2024, 01:22:04 AM

To be fair Twente isn't as bad as you might think, but could be not great either, I am not entirely sure. I would give Lazio a chance to win of course, but I wouldn't consider Twente to do nothing neither, they may try their best and possibly do something this game too. This is why I have hopes about them having a chance of getting at least a draw.

Europa has been quite complicated so far, I am not sure who will win against who, betting on it is very tough, hell even UCL has been tough and making me lose, so I can't say European competitions are great this season. I haven't checked conference league to be fair, I am not going to lie I don't know what's going on there, maybe it's easier to gamble there, but for these two competitions things are tough.

People do not consider Twente to lose for sure neither, Lazio doesn't have like 1.40 odds or anything like that, they have 2.20 odds in most places. Meaning, while Lazio is the favourite to win, having 2.20 means they are not really high favourites or going to dominate, anything could happen. This is why we need to make sure we are dealing with a period where it is going to take some time for us to learn who will win.

There are some easier games, betting on them looks like it would be smarter, Galatasaray should be able to beat Elfsborg, Frankfurt should be beating RFS, Ajax should beat Qarabag, Nice should beat Frencvaros, these are games that I think should be easier to bet and we would make more profit from these games.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on October 06, 2024, 08:40:09 AM

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Galatasaray's only weakness is their defending. They can't play effective in defense especially against teams with fast counter-attacks. They concede so many goals and lose their advantage because of that. This is the point they need to work hard on. They have time for that considering the upcoming break for national matches.

If they make progress on that then everything would be just fine. They can already score goals easily. They have very capable players in the attacking area. Even in Osimhen's absence it doesn't matter for them.

Since Osimhen joined Gala, I haven't had the chance to watch this team's performance. So, I can't judge or give my opinion regarding the performance of the team coached by Okan Buruk. In addition, it seems that Osimhen's performance has not shown sharpness for the Galatasaray squad. Whether it's in the Domestic League, even though they are at the top of the standings. Or in the Europa League group stage which has not been able to contribute a single goal. It's natural, he is a newcomer who has only played in 4 matches with Galatasaray. 1 in the Europa League, 3 in the Domestic League. If you look at Galatasaray in their Domestic League, it seems that they are very strong with a 4 point lead over the team below them. In addition, they have scored 24 goals in 8 matches. In the Europa League they have not shown their aggressiveness, especially Osimhen. But I'm pretty sure they will qualify from the Europa League group stage. Because, for its class, Galatasaray is a fairly strong team.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 09, 2024, 01:59:31 PM

Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 09, 2024, 01:50:07 PM

Fenerbahce is a good team I must say, and they are currently been managed by former Manchester United coach Jose Mourinho. The match will be tough because it will be a must win game for Mourinho since he was sacked at Manchester United. And for Ten Hag, it will be a test for him because his job is at risk and he will need to win any game that came his way now.
Manchester United that will be playing away from home needs to be very careful since they needed to win the game in order to make their fans happy and to have a live hope in the Europa League because now they are out of the favorites due to their poor start in the Europa league.

Fenerbahce's situation is better than United's at the moment. we have to admit it.
United and Ten Hag are still hot topics among football fans. especially United fans. some are urging Ten Hag to be fired, but some are also in favor of giving him a chance at least until the middle of this season.

If Ten Hag loses this match, it will clearly make United's steps even harder in the Europa League. they have not gotten positive results from their 2 matches which ended in a draw. against Fenerbahce, the best possibility is also a draw. but we know that United is currently unstable. last season they were like that too, but this season there probably won't be many more opportunities for Ten Hag.

I am not putting any hope on Manchester united to win Fenerbahce, because the team is not having the quality in them to win an average club easily. Ten Hag will love to settle for a draw and will be very happy to achieve such results because he will brag that he was not defeated. And if Manchester united is defeated, Ten Hag will give empty promises and false hopes.

Manchester united might not be able to pass through to the round of 16 and if that happens, I will be surprised because it doesn't show that they can from their performance.

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Quote from: bering on October 08, 2024, 01:22:11 PM

Lazio can earn 6 points from 2 matches i think this is good start and these results too makes them can occupy first place and so far Lazio also as the team with the most goal in this competition with scores 7 goals and honestly previously i didn't counted Lazio as the team who possibly can advances to the next round this because their last season performance is not too impressive besides that i think Marco Baroni as their current manager is still lack of experience because during his career as a manager Marco Baroni only spend his time to train small teams in Serie A

Lazio next opponent is Twente and i think Lazio has good chances to gets their 3rd winning in this competition because Twente performance is not really good even at Eredivise Twente still hard struggle to gets the winning results and there was no head to head statistics between these teams because whether it Lazio and Twente never met at Europa league before and regarding the odds i have checked it that Lazio has odds @2.2 which their status as the favourite

Lazio team is strong this season. Lazio won both the Europa League matches. Scored 7 goals in two matches and conceded just one goal. Lazio won 3-0 against Dynamo Kyiv in the first match. The match was an away match of Lazio. In the second match, Lazio won the home match against Nice with a big margin of 4-1. Also Lazio's performance in Serie A is very good. Lazio is now fourth in the table. Lazio is 3 points behind Napoli at the top of the table.

My guess is that Lazio will hold the top spot in the Europa League for a while longer. This team is in very good form. Next match Lazio will play against Twente. The Twente team is not considered that strong. However, Twente shared points with United and Fenerbahce in the first two matches. So Twente will try to secure 1 point in the match against Lazio. So Lazio must perform very carefully if they want to score full points.

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Quote from: Abu-Naim on October 09, 2024, 01:50:07 PM

Fenerbahce is a good team I must say, and they are currently been managed by former Manchester United coach Jose Mourinho. The match will be tough because it will be a must win game for Mourinho since he was sacked at Manchester United. And for Ten Hag, it will be a test for him because his job is at risk and he will need to win any game that came his way now.
Manchester United that will be playing away from home needs to be very careful since they needed to win the game in order to make their fans happy and to have a live hope in the Europa League because now they are out of the favorites due to their poor start in the Europa league.

Fenerbahce's situation is better than United's at the moment. we have to admit it.
United and Ten Hag are still hot topics among football fans. especially United fans. some are urging Ten Hag to be fired, but some are also in favor of giving him a chance at least until the middle of this season.

If Ten Hag loses this match, it will clearly make United's steps even harder in the Europa League. they have not gotten positive results from their 2 matches which ended in a draw. against Fenerbahce, the best possibility is also a draw. but we know that United is currently unstable. last season they were like that too, but this season there probably won't be many more opportunities for Ten Hag.

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Quote from: karabiber on October 09, 2024, 08:02:33 AM

Manchester United and Fenerbahce have played 6 matches so far and have three wins against each other. In other words, there is a tie. Honestly, the way Manchester United have been playing in recent years and the way they've been playing, I think Fenerbahce will win against Manchester United and take the lead in the number of wins. I don't see any reason why Fenerbahce can't do that because they'll be up against the worst Manchester United in history. I think Jose Mourinho will have a special strategy against Man U. Erik ten Hag is a manager who doesn't learn from his mistakes. I don't know how long they will tolerate this man. The Fenerbahce game could be the beginning of the end for Erik ten Hag.

Fenerbahce is a good team I must say, and they are currently been managed by former Manchester United coach Jose Mourinho. The match will be tough because it will be a must win game for Mourinho since he was sacked at Manchester United. And for Ten Hag, it will be a test for him because his job is at risk and he will need to win any game that came his way now.
Manchester United that will be playing away from home needs to be very careful since they needed to win the game in order to make their fans happy and to have a live hope in the Europa League because now they are out of the favorites due to their poor start in the Europa league.

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Quote from: Palakka on October 09, 2024, 01:30:24 PM

Ten Hag has indeed won two trophies during his time in charge of Manchester United and that has been a source of pride for him all this time in the media, but I think with the money that Manchester United have spent so far in supporting him, of course the FA and Carabao trophies are not something that can cover up the fans disappointment with him so far, at the moment the management continues to give him great trust to continue coaching and obviously it indicates they are too blind at the moment in looking condition of the team is so very bad, but even so, the trust that Ten Hag has now gained should be a reference for him to give the best for the fans by winning major trophies such as the Europa League or the Premier League in end season later, I think this will be a big test for Ten Hag in getting his team back on track after a series of poor results in recent weeks.

Manchester United team is consistently performing poorly. However, Manchester United management has not thought of sacking Ten Hag. Manchester United management have spent a lot of money building up the squad to Ten Hag's liking. This is probably why United management is giving Ten Hag plenty of opportunities to improve United's performance. But I don't think Manchester United's performance will improve with Ten Hag. Manchester United's performance in this season is very weak compared to last season. Manchester United is not able to play well even in Europe League matches. The team has failed to win both the Europa League matches.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on October 09, 2024, 10:59:41 AM

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Knowing that the management has still got some sort of confidence in him has made him almost not really sorry about all of his errors, he's beginning to be bold because at the end of almost every season, he gets to come back with some sort of trophies and then look like he actually achieved something for the season and maybe that's one of the things he's planning on doing and that's why he keeps talking about judging him at the end of the season forgetting that the management may get tired of his failure and terminate his job before the end of the season he's been speaking off in awhile now.

Let's see whether he will win any single trophy this season if that's the case. Ten Hag should know by now that this season is not for him to survive another stay in Manchester United as their head coach by winning the FA Cup or Europa League title for them at least. As he has been lucky all this while, he can find himself not to be lucky this time around. He's forgetting to note that, being lucky in a season to lift any league title doesn't happen all the time as anticipated. There will be seasons when you thought you have the league titles under your control, you end up losing it due to unimagining circumstances. This is what Ten Hag don't seem to understand. He thinks this season would be like last year.

Ten Hag has indeed won two trophies during his time in charge of Manchester United and that has been a source of pride for him all this time in the media, but I think with the money that Manchester United have spent so far in supporting him, of course the FA and Carabao trophies are not something that can cover up the fans disappointment with him so far, at the moment the management continues to give him great trust to continue coaching and obviously it indicates they are too blind at the moment in looking condition of the team is so very bad, but even so, the trust that Ten Hag has now gained should be a reference for him to give the best for the fans by winning major trophies such as the Europa League or the Premier League in end season later, I think this will be a big test for Ten Hag in getting his team back on track after a series of poor results in recent weeks.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 09, 2024, 11:00:09 AM

If you compare these two teams, Lazio is better, but as you said Twente is not as bad as imagined. When they can be in the European League, you should be able to see that they are not an ordinary team, but when compared to names like Lazio, they are still slightly below Lazio. However, in the European League like this, this is not a guarantee, because there are many surprises that occur, especially Twente will definitely try their best to do their best. If you look at it at a glance, then I will not deny that I will choose the team that is stronger on paper, that is the easiest way to bet. However, in football it is not that simple, there are many factors that can make a team win a match, luck for example.

I agree it is very clear on paper that Lazio is more superior and they have more experience in the European league but in this match Lazio must visit Twente's headquarters and it must be remembered that they were able to hold Man United to a draw at Old Trafford although it is undeniable that Man United's strength is not at its true level but that is a good motivation for Twente for the next match it is not impossible that they can win the match against Lazio later, football is full of surprises unexpected events will always be present, I believe there are some bettors who bet on Twente even so if I had to choose of course I would avoid this bet, the European league is now very difficult to predict, the superior team can be disappointing.

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