UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 11.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 13, 2024, 09:05:50 AM

Where did you see improvement from Manchester United? I didn't even see that. They played averagely against a garbage team like Plzen. They were also almost losing the game as well.

Onana was pure liability in this game, and he owes Hojlund's paycheck this week with his blunder. I'm not seeing actual structure from Manchester United. They still lack tactical build.

It's also important to remember if it was Plzen, not a strong team. They're gonna struggle to face stronger team if they keep playing like that in EPL.

I can only see the positive in this game is Hojlund.

Europa League is competitive one and Manchester United wouldn't underrated any more oppositions they faced in this tournament, not after what happen yesterday against Viktoria Plzen. The Manchester United squad under Ruben Amorim is absolutely unserious following the poor performance they exhibits against Viktoria Plzen because this was a less important game for them, thrashing their oppositions was suppose to be the ultimate goal but what did we watch? Manchester United struggle for a comeback and eventually narrowly sealed 3 winning points. There's definitely something wrong with Manchester United if you ask me because the weakness are openly spotted out from the main goalkeeper, André Onana who's always making crucial mistakes that leads to conceding goals in his post. He's liability for Manchester United this season? Ofcourse yes but at the same time, he also made brilliant saves that accumulated three points and saved the day for the Red Devils, as counting his flaws we should also review the days he did his best for the club.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on December 13, 2024, 03:18:17 AM

Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

Where did you see improvement from Manchester United? I didn't even see that. They played averagely against a garbage team like Plzen. They were also almost losing the game as well.

Onana was pure liability in this game, and he owes Hojlund's paycheck this week with his blunder. I'm not seeing actual structure from Manchester United. They still lack tactical build.

It's also important to remember if it was Plzen, not a strong team. They're gonna struggle to face stronger team if they keep playing like that in EPL.

I can only see the positive in this game is Hojlund.

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Manchester United is currently one of the few teams undefeated in the Europa League. I don't think they are doing too badly in the Europa League. What is more important for them is the Premier League. They normally aim to be champions in the Premier League, but they have been far from it for a few seasons now. Their main goal is to finish this year in the best way possible. They aim to climb to the top and go to the Champions League. However, their current ranking is not suitable for this. Becoming champions in the Europa League is perhaps the shortest way to do this. That is why the Portuguese manager will give more importance to this league than necessary.

I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

Ruben Amorim has not been with Man United for a month and he has not played 10 matches with Man United, so it is clear that his identity is not yet visible. However, according to what Amorim said himself when he first entered Man United, his "idea" of the game is already visible. He managed to change the way Man United plays and this mission game is good for Man United in the future. The EPL League is indeed less competitive but they will maximize their best to give their best and indeed if you look at Amorim's current target for Man United they will pursue the European league trophy because with the European champions of course they will automatically enter the UCL league next season.

Man United's performance in the European league is not too bad but not good either, but Amorim still has time to build the Man United squad to be strong and solid. Amorim must also dare to reprimand Onana so that he learns from the mistakes he often makes. Because sometimes Onana makes his defenders unnecessarily stressed with opposing attackers lurking nearby Or he will waste time when taking a goal kick until it is blocked.

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Quote from: punk.zink on December 13, 2024, 07:24:03 AM

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I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

Clearly, there is no other demand than to improve Man United performance, that is the only reason the club appointed Amorim as Ten Hag successor. This season there is still a lot that needs to be improved in the Man United squad, they are still performing inconsistently in the EPL and UEL. The January transfer window should be used to slowly build up the squad, at least Amorim can help Man United improve their position in the standings. Meanwhile, regarding their performance in the UEL, I am very pessimistic that they can survive longer because there are still other clubs that have been able to perform consistently throughout this season, such as Lazio and Athletic Club.

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Quote from: Mustang Shelby on December 13, 2024, 07:32:07 AM

The teams in the European league are generally much weaker than the teams in the Premier League. Therefore, it is more realistic to aim for the Europa League championship instead of the Premier League championship. If we consider that none of the teams in the Champions League will be included in the Europa League this year, the strongest team among the existing teams may be Manchester United. Of course, there are a few teams that will challenge them, such as Lazio or Athletic or Tottenham. If Manchester United plays well in the finals against these teams, I think they can be Europa League champions.

Saying some of the teams in the Europa are weak would have sounded more agreeable than generalizing them, it's more like taking off the prestige that comes with he Europa games because it's now a league of the week teams across Europe from your perspective. Manchester United has got a lot g time history that given them some supportive edg and making them the most picked choice for the trophy but it still doesn't mean some other teams in the Europa doesn't have good chances for an attempt.

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The first half is over, and the match is still goalless.
Manchester United is still playing well in the match, they dominated the game and have more ball possession, attempts in goals and more hope and chances created than Viktoria Plzen, and based on how this game is goin, if Amorim can have little more coordination in United attack, they can win this match because they have the chance of winning the match.

While the score changes to Viktoria Plzen winning over Manchester United. Manchester United fans are too quick to celebrate when Amorim could have given Manchester United some wins.

I'm not editing anymore, just adding here that Hojlund who came on as a substitute was the player who made the score change to 1-1.
Continue to press with good passing of the ball to open up opportunities to score goals. It looks like Manchester United can come back in this game.

You predicted well, maybe I should help you to edit. Hojlund made it 2 to enable Manchester United win of Viktoria Plzen. Manchester United fans didn't celebrate too quick because Plzen even scored first. But whoever weighs the weight of the match will surely know that Manchester United was supposed to win. But I will not fail to criticise the Manchester United team. They were supposed to score more than 3 goals in this match but their conversation rate is too weak. For Manchester United to succeed, Hojlund should be the top 9 and should be more focused on hitting the net. Other wings are gradually falling in place.

You have seen for yourself how they played. For me it was an exciting match and winning at the end of the match is a meaningful victory for the Amorim squad in the Europa League.
I also will not criticize them with the game they played because for me it doesn't matter about their condition because we want to prove that our team is better than them. Maybe your criticism has been represented.
In another match, I regret Galatasaray. They failed to maintain the 3 points that were in sight.

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Quote from: punk.zink on December 13, 2024, 07:24:03 AM

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Manchester United is currently one of the few teams undefeated in the Europa League. I don't think they are doing too badly in the Europa League. What is more important for them is the Premier League. They normally aim to be champions in the Premier League, but they have been far from it for a few seasons now. Their main goal is to finish this year in the best way possible. They aim to climb to the top and go to the Champions League. However, their current ranking is not suitable for this. Becoming champions in the Europa League is perhaps the shortest way to do this. That is why the Portuguese manager will give more importance to this league than necessary.

I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

The teams in the European league are generally much weaker than the teams in the Premier League. Therefore, it is more realistic to aim for the Europa League championship instead of the Premier League championship. If we consider that none of the teams in the Champions League will be included in the Europa League this year, the strongest team among the existing teams may be Manchester United. Of course, there are a few teams that will challenge them, such as Lazio or Athletic or Tottenham. If Manchester United plays well in the finals against these teams, I think they can be Europa League champions.

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Quote from: Silence Scream on December 13, 2024, 06:50:48 AM

Manchester United is currently one of the few teams undefeated in the Europa League. I don't think they are doing too badly in the Europa League. What is more important for them is the Premier League. They normally aim to be champions in the Premier League, but they have been far from it for a few seasons now. Their main goal is to finish this year in the best way possible. They aim to climb to the top and go to the Champions League. However, their current ranking is not suitable for this. Becoming champions in the Europa League is perhaps the shortest way to do this. That is why the Portuguese manager will give more importance to this league than necessary.

I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

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Lyon vs Frankfurt.

This match was not as expected even though Frankfurt was able to score first in the early minutes of the first half, falling behind first, not long after Lyon was able to equalize to draw. Lyon appeared more dominant in the first half, they also had many opportunities and even 2 shots hit the goalpost. In the second half, not long after Lyon increased their lead by adding 2 goals scored by Fotana and Nuamah. While Frankfurt, they were only able to reduce the defeat by scoring 1 more goal by Marmoush. As a result, this match was won by Lyon with a score of 3-2. An interesting and quite tough match, unfortunately my prediction was wrong. Lyon is now in 4th place, while Frankfurt has dropped to 5th place
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Lyon played very well in the match, although Frankfurt was superior in terms of ball possession, but in terms of opportunities obtained by both teams, Lyon was superior and even though they were behind by one goal in the first half, it did not affect their performance, the factor of playing at home also increased the confidence of the players.
But apart from their victory, I am impressed with Lyon's overall performance in the two competitions they are playing, even though they are currently still plagued by problems, they can still perform well in the local league and in the European League competition.

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Quote from: shogun47 on December 12, 2024, 05:07:24 PM

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Club fans always expecting instant improvement, why? Fortunately for Amorim Manchester United managed to win 1:2 against Plzen tonight else he would have gotten all sort of criticism questioning his capability as Manchester United coach, which is too rushy a thing to do..

It was a win and I think Amorim doesn't care how this win was achieved. It was clear that Manchester United would have more ball possession, but Pilzen had more than chance to score a goal and Manchester United kept the tension in the game until the last minute was over.

You're right mate, we were supposed to see Manchester United leading in possession in that game but that wasn't happening and that got fans wondering if the team has really improved in anyway under Ruben Amorim because he is known for getting possession of his game even when in Sporting CP. To this end since we didn't get to see that in this game then it's obvious the players hasn't accustomed yet to his style and tactics. But the ultimate subject was that they took all three points in end, which would have been a different story if they had failed to.

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Club fans always expecting instant improvement, why? Fortunately for Amorim Manchester United managed to win 1:2 against Plzen tonight else he would have gotten all sort of criticism questioning his capability as Manchester United coach, which is too rushy a thing to do.

Amorim as much as am concerned, he isn't the problem with Manchester United performance not having significant improvement since the departure of ETH, for it is until some of the existing players in tue club have been replaced with new signings into the squad I see no reason to question Amorim capacity with the club because he was doing great as a head coach with Sporting CP before taking the UTD job.

For goodness sake, Manchester United is a top top club with high expectations and the fans are eager to see them back to the to real soon. Personally, I have lowered my expectations so I don't get vexed game after game. Too many people faulted EtH saying he lost the dressing room when they should have called out these lads with high pay roles. Pathetic!

Manchester United is currently one of the few teams undefeated in the Europa League. I don't think they are doing too badly in the Europa League. What is more important for them is the Premier League. They normally aim to be champions in the Premier League, but they have been far from it for a few seasons now. Their main goal is to finish this year in the best way possible. They aim to climb to the top and go to the Champions League. However, their current ranking is not suitable for this. Becoming champions in the Europa League is perhaps the shortest way to do this. That is why the Portuguese manager will give more importance to this league than necessary.

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Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

What exactly Manchester United improved lol.

Viktoria Plzen market value is only 41 Million Euro while Manchester United market value is 854 Million Euro, 21 times higher than Viktoria Plzen. Manchester United even play with their best eleven, they should able to score at least 4 goals.

If they only won one goal difference, it means they're still struggling.

Of course, United is still struggling to pick form and I haven't see any good improvement yet, because they find it difficult to score more goals against Viktoria Plzen despite several chances that they had. It's just that their host is very weak, if not maybe, we might see a different thing entirely. However, a win is a win, be it a weak club or a strong club because they all qualified to this competition.

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Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

To be honest, it was not a very good match from Manchester United, in the first half the hosts attacked more, and at the beginning of the second half they even managed to score and only after that Manchester United woke up and started to play. Amorim's substitution worked, when he replaced Rashford with Geilund, actually his double will bring victory to Manchester United. I see that Amorim is having a hard time working with the players who are in the team now, and I think that in the winter we will see big changes.

Overall, Manchester United's performance has not been that good, but since Amorim's arrival, there has been better progress in the current Manchester United team and the progress is going in a positive direction so if this can continue to be done, then over time I think Manchester United's performance will improve.

The victory over Viktoria Plzen was quite important for Manchester United regardless of what happened in the match, but this is a model for Amorim to be able to improve the team's mentality and make the team even better in the future.

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Lyon vs Frankfurt.

This match was not as expected even though Frankfurt was able to score first in the early minutes of the first half, falling behind first, not long after Lyon was able to equalize to draw. Lyon appeared more dominant in the first half, they also had many opportunities and even 2 shots hit the goalpost. In the second half, not long after Lyon increased their lead by adding 2 goals scored by Fotana and Nuamah. While Frankfurt, they were only able to reduce the defeat by scoring 1 more goal by Marmoush. As a result, this match was won by Lyon with a score of 3-2. An interesting and quite tough match, unfortunately my prediction was wrong. Lyon is now in 4th place, while Frankfurt has dropped to 5th place
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Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

To be honest, it was not a very good match from Manchester United, in the first half the hosts attacked more, and at the beginning of the second half they even managed to score and only after that Manchester United woke up and started to play. Amorim's substitution worked, when he replaced Rashford with Geilund, actually his double will bring victory to Manchester United. I see that Amorim is having a hard time working with the players who are in the team now, and I think that in the winter we will see big changes.

It was indeed with great difficulty even though the opponents they faced did not have equal strength, I will not praise Man United's performance even though they won against Viktoria Plzen, let's be realistic if Man United should have been able to win the match easily but in fact it did not happen, there are still many improvements that must be made by Amorim to be able to compete in the Europa League, for now Manchester United's performance is still not so good.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on December 13, 2024, 02:11:06 AM

Manchester united now is at a phase where they will need to focus and make every game count as a win because loses can destabilize the whole process of building because it's been long that united experience anything like consistency and that's exactly what the coach needs to increase the moral of these boys to even start thinking of winning big games like derby matches or long term rivals like Liverpool and arsenal.

This victory still cannot be said to be satisfactory, because the rhythm of the game applied by Manchester United is still very slow, especially the passes in the back line are not clear, so that 1 goal occurred due to Onana blunder. Hopefully Hojlund can be comfortable with Amorim game system, maybe Amorim wants to make Hojlund like Gyokeres. Actually, there are many opportunities that United got but there are seeds of egoism emerging in Amad, trying to force himself to hold the ball even though ideally it could be passed to Bruno or Hojlund. Amad must be able to control himself because Amorim is still in the process of selecting players.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on December 13, 2024, 02:14:16 AM

Manchester United won by luck yesterday and we can still see that some players in Manchester United don't deserve to be in the team, Manchester United players are not serious and I will say that some players did make Erik Ten Hag become a good coach in Manchester United, Look at Manchester United performance yesterday, the performance is poor and if not for the Hojlund that score the two goals yesterday Manchester United will lose the match Yesterday's.

Many players in the team are very selfish when it comes to assisting in scoring, players like Bruno Fernandes, Garnacho and Rashford these players are selfish when they are on the field and that affects the team to score goals, Ruben Amorim needs to do something about and with the news I hear about Manchester United planning to sell some players it will be very good if the team sell some players like the way Chelsea did and they are doing well now.

Manchester United won but it was actually a boring game from them. I will assume it was a fair game since they managed to get the victory. Although, I noticed improvements especially in their ball possession but they played sluggish game. They missed two goals towards the end of the game simply because of their sluggish game and wrong decision together with their selfishness. Just imagine them having three vs one chance and couldn't make it count due to their indecisive. If there is no change of these lazy players, Amorin will hardly succeed building this Manchester team. The January transfer is not far, they need a significant flow out and drastic recruitment to build the team.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on December 13, 2024, 03:18:17 AM

Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

To be honest, it was not a very good match from Manchester United, in the first half the hosts attacked more, and at the beginning of the second half they even managed to score and only after that Manchester United woke up and started to play. Amorim's substitution worked, when he replaced Rashford with Geilund, actually his double will bring victory to Manchester United. I see that Amorim is having a hard time working with the players who are in the team now, and I think that in the winter we will see big changes.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on December 13, 2024, 03:18:17 AM

Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

What exactly Manchester United improved lol.

Viktoria Plzen market value is only 41 Million Euro while Manchester United market value is 854 Million Euro, 21 times higher than Viktoria Plzen. Manchester United even play with their best eleven, they should able to score at least 4 goals.

If they only won one goal difference, it means they're still struggling.

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at least there is a new spirit and motivation for MU to win the derby. I admit Amorim is enough enthusiast when he plays on the Europa League, he seem like have the target to the Europa League title, I know he never said that, but when I look at how he was so excited tonight, I think he wants that title for this season. Now, MU is ranked 7th where automatically qualify for next round. This is a pretty good achievement for the team who have problems with the squad before. They have step begun to awaken, and start building the team gradually. let's stay tuned who are the next players he recruited to build the perfect team.

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Manchester united now is at a phase where they will need to focus and make every game count as a win because loses can destabilize the whole process of building because it's been long that united experience anything like consistency and that's exactly what the coach needs to increase the moral of these boys to even start thinking of winning big games like derby matches or long term rivals like Liverpool and arsenal.

It is not easy to create consistency, Ruben Amorim must work hard every week. If Manchester United avoids the storm of player injuries, Ruben Amorim has the potential to push his team to achieve this season target. The adaptation process seems to be going smoothly, the players look happier with a different approach, and Hojlund is starting to show signs of his sharpness in the front line.

With an unbeaten run in the Europa League, Manchester United are now slowly starting to be considered again as a candidate to win the trophy. Indeed, there are still many things that Ruben Amorim must improve in the future, one of which is uniting the egos of key players. Victory over Viktoria Plzen is very important for Manchester United, because it will be valuable capital when facing Manchester City in the Premier League.

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