UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 9.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 14, 2024, 05:17:52 AM

Before we watch the remaining 2 games in league phase, here is the look of top 24 now:

Lazio have reached the top after beating Ajax by 3-1 away. Marco Baroni is having an incredible run in his first year with Lazio already.

He didn't manage a this big team before actually but he managed so many Italian teams. He is doing quite well in the Serie A at the same time.

Lazio, Athletic Bilbao, Anderlecht, Galatasaray and Manchester United are the remaining unbeaten teams. By the way Galatasaray really disappointed me with their horrible defensive performance against Malmo. Sad

A little surprised with Lazio's points in the Europa League even though Lazio and Bilbao have the same points with 16 points, only the difference is goal difference, Lazio performed well in the Domestic League and performed well in the Europa League and they also managed to beat Ajax, of course the perfect journey in my opinion, they are able to be consistent in the two Leagues I hope Lazio as a representative of Serie A is able to compete with other top European clubs.

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Quote from: Frankolala on December 14, 2024, 06:50:54 AM

United should be able to win their remaining matches because they are going to play with clubs that are weak. Qualifying to the round of 16 is certain because United would not be able to lose these two match and I don't expect a draw from them. This is the league that Amorim can use to console himself from the dramas in EPL. I think things will get tougher for them from the round of 16 if they face any of the clubs on top six of the table.

What I'm worried about is when Man United will face Rangers. Although Rangers is not a strong team, but we can see that currently the number of scores produced by Rangers is very small with Man United. And the number of goals conceded also has a very small difference.
So I think if the performance of Rangers and Man United is almost the same and the chance of a draw can also be a big opportunity.
However, when facing FCSB in the last match, I will not have any worries because Man United is guaranteed to win.

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After successfully winning over Viktoria Plzen, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round are now greater. A run of three straight wins since Ten Hag was sacked has lifted them to seventh, but they must win their remaining two games to secure a place in the top eight and qualify automatically. The win may boost their confidence, but it does not mean that United can compete in the title race because overall their performance has not been consistent, especially since there are still several other teams that have performed very well in several different competitions.

Despite their opponents who can be said to be no better, this victory is very important for them. Because previously, when they were still led by Ten Hag, with opponents who on paper were no better than them, they often had difficulties and in the end they had to accept many defeats. Passing the 6th match, they are now in 7th position, and that is a fairly safe position for them to be able to qualify for the last 16 directly, with the note that they must win the remaining 2 matches. In the 7th match they will face Rangers, a match that is also not easy for them. Furthermore, FCSB is the last opponent they will face in this round, also not an opponent to be underestimated.

United should be able to win their remaining matches because they are going to play with clubs that are weak. Qualifying to the round of 16 is certain because United would not be able to lose these two match and I don't expect a draw from them. This is the league that Amorim can use to console himself from the dramas in EPL. I think things will get tougher for them from the round of 16 if they face any of the clubs on top six of the table.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 14, 2024, 05:17:52 AM

Lazio, Athletic Bilbao, Anderlecht, Galatasaray and Manchester United are the remaining unbeaten teams. By the way Galatasaray really disappointed me with their horrible defensive performance against Malmo. Sad

The only unknown team is Anderlecht, very surprising they not weren't lose against Real Sociedad and FC Porto, they're not that strong, but technically they should be better than Anderlecht.

Yeah it was unexpected to see Galatasaray to have such performance, Malmö FF is just a Sweden team even though they're strong in domestic league.

I think if we compare to Champions League and Conference League, only Europa League is still impossible to predict which one will be the champion.

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Before we watch the remaining 2 games in league phase, here is the look of top 24 now:

Lazio have reached the top after beating Ajax by 3-1 away. Marco Baroni is having an incredible run in his first year with Lazio already.

He didn't manage a this big team before actually but he managed so many Italian teams. He is doing quite well in the Serie A at the same time.

Lazio, Athletic Bilbao, Anderlecht, Galatasaray and Manchester United are the remaining unbeaten teams. By the way Galatasaray really disappointed me with their horrible defensive performance against Malmo. Sad

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Quote from: mamesso on December 14, 2024, 04:09:32 AM

After successfully winning over Viktoria Plzen, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round are now greater. A run of three straight wins since Ten Hag was sacked has lifted them to seventh, but they must win their remaining two games to secure a place in the top eight and qualify automatically. The win may boost their confidence, but it does not mean that United can compete in the title race because overall their performance has not been consistent, especially since there are still several other teams that have performed very well in several different competitions.

Despite their opponents who can be said to be no better, this victory is very important for them. Because previously, when they were still led by Ten Hag, with opponents who on paper were no better than them, they often had difficulties and in the end they had to accept many defeats. Passing the 6th match, they are now in 7th position, and that is a fairly safe position for them to be able to qualify for the last 16 directly, with the note that they must win the remaining 2 matches. In the 7th match they will face Rangers, a match that is also not easy for them. Furthermore, FCSB is the last opponent they will face in this round, also not an opponent to be underestimated.

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In the match Between Ajax vs Lazio yesterday, Lazio defeated Ajax with 3-1 score and won the match. Lazio won total five matches out of six and standing top in the qualifying table with holding 16 points. On the other hand, Ajax holding 10 points as they won only three matches and ranked 11th in the qualifying table. After start of the match, both team tried to dominate each other and Loum Tchaouna Scored first goal at 12th minutes behalf of Lazio. Afterwards Ajax tired enough but before first half, the score remain same. And afterwards the start lf to 2nd half, Ajax became to strategic and supposed to be dedicative enough. And they able to score their goal at 47th time by Bertrand Traore and set the equality back. But F. Dele-Bashiru scored another goal at 52th minutes and let his team ahead with one goal and third goal came from Pedro at 77th minutes which helped themselves to reach close to the victory. Afterwards Ajax tried their best, did many fouls but unable to score any single goal. Besides Lazio did similar thing to stopped their opponent team from goal and they successfully able to defend them and won the match.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 14, 2024, 04:09:32 AM

After successfully winning over Viktoria Plzen, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round are now greater. A run of three straight wins since Ten Hag was sacked has lifted them to seventh, but they must win their remaining two games to secure a place in the top eight and qualify automatically. The win may boost their confidence, but it does not mean that United can compete in the title race because overall their performance has not been consistent, especially since there are still several other teams that have performed very well in several different competitions.

In the next match, Man United will really face a quite troublesome club. Namely the Rangers. Rangers look like an ordinary team but it turns out they can never be underestimated. Rangers are currently ranked 8th after successfully holding Tottenham to a draw in their last match. And in the next match it was Man United's turn to face Rangers. Tottenham failed to beat Rangers. But will Man United succeed? I doubt it if Man United is not at its best. But if Man United plays with full confidence and with maximum performance then there is no mistake that Man United will be the favorites. And Man United must be able to win the next match or all the remaining matches if they want to immediately qualify for the next stage without having to go through the play-off round. Amorim has definitely learned quite a lot now after a few weeks at this club and I'm sure he will be able to take this team a little better than last season.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 13, 2024, 03:37:29 PM

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Manchester United were able to come from behind to beat their hosts Viktoria Plzen yesterday which also marked their first away win in Europe in their last 20 games but that doesn't make them a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League trophy this season. They can still improve and maybe win it this season to the surprise of many including myself but realistically, I think there are other stronger teams in the competition

After successfully winning over Viktoria Plzen, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the next round are now greater. A run of three straight wins since Ten Hag was sacked has lifted them to seventh, but they must win their remaining two games to secure a place in the top eight and qualify automatically. The win may boost their confidence, but it does not mean that United can compete in the title race because overall their performance has not been consistent, especially since there are still several other teams that have performed very well in several different competitions.

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Amorim will be very pleased, he finally unlocked Hojlund! To be honest I didn't even remember to follow these games but I see that Spurs and United will probably make it into top 8 so English clubs are not so bad in this competition in the end.

And the derby in Manchester is coming. Battle of the playoff clubs

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Manchester United is currently one of the few teams undefeated in the Europa League. I don't think they are doing too badly in the Europa League. What is more important for them is the Premier League. They normally aim to be champions in the Premier League, but they have been far from it for a few seasons now. Their main goal is to finish this year in the best way possible. They aim to climb to the top and go to the Champions League. However, their current ranking is not suitable for this. Becoming champions in the Europa League is perhaps the shortest way to do this. That is why the Portuguese manager will give more importance to this league than necessary.

I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

Actually, the club also wants a target to achieve the EPL or UEL title but they are also aware that a new coach needs adaptation and it is certainly quite difficult to give a title in his first season so the more realistic thing is to see the progress of Man United whether in the UEL or in the EPL, it doesn't matter even though they haven't been able to achieve a title at least Amorim can put Man United to finish in the top ranking (enter the top 5 in the EPL) and (Reach the semifinals/finals in the UEL) or more realistically Amorim can at least provide the FA Cup title.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on December 13, 2024, 05:52:28 PM

Andre Onana is one of the best players in Manchester United right now, he is saving the team in several occasions despite their defensive problems; he is among the best goalkeepers that have more saves than many premier league goalkeepers; but his effort was not well recognized because the defenders are always exposing him to so many goals.
If Manchester United can sign some good defenders, I am sure you will see the best of Onana.

He is still not the best player because he still makes mistakes and maybe he does not have good reflexes to block the ball. One of the factors that makes him not perform optimally is because Manchester United's defense is not so solid so that more goals are conceded. But sometimes we also have to look at the quality of a goalkeeper with individual abilities and maybe this is what Onana needs to improve so that goals are not conceded due to mistakes in anticipating. Manchester United are starting to open a good path in the Europa League and maybe some evaluations are needed to increase their chances of becoming one of the title contenders this season.

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Quote from: Stablexcoin on December 13, 2024, 05:45:41 PM

Nothing was impressive from the way they played, that was an average performance from a big club like Manchester United who is known to be one of the biggest club in the Premier League, certainly much was expected from them than what was experienced during the game. Manchester United does not look like a team that'll love to win the title, with this level of performance they are unable to defeat the tough guys currently in the League.

Manchester United used to be one of the biggest clubs in the premier league but, not anymore. They are nothing more than an average team as it is and having to expect more from them when, they don’t have it in them is a flaw.
The players are averaged players, the coach is just getting to know his team and players as it is, it remains a struggling team still. They’ll be lucky not to be loosing their fixtures I would say. In this case, they didn’t lose but managed to beat Viktoria Plzen to a 1-0 Manchester United victory. That’s enough for the team.

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Quote from: eightdots on December 13, 2024, 03:57:05 PM

Onana makes too many mistakes but the coaches still keep him in goal. I think Altay should be given a chance. I don't think he will concede too many wrong goals like Onana. Constantly playing Onana because his market value is higher is hurting Manchester United and they won't give up on this mistake.

The important thing for a team should be to win the match rather than protecting the market value of their players. Manchester United hasn't been playing the game they want for a long time and both the goalkeeper and the defenders are making too many mistakes. They should make a change in the squad and give more chances to the players on the bench.

Andre Onana is one of the best players in Manchester United right now, he is saving the team in several occasions despite their defensive problems; he is among the best goalkeepers that have more saves than many premier league goalkeepers; but his effort was not well recognized because the defenders are always exposing him to so many goals.
If Manchester United can sign some good defenders, I am sure you will see the best of Onana.

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While I do agree that Europa isn't a big task for United, it's also not an easy feat neither. It is quite tough to consider what kind of opponents they may face, and it is not always that easy, this isn't their first time in Europa lately, they have been here a few times and they do lose, and I think that's the most important part. If they end up losing like this then we are going to end up with some issues without a doubt, I think that's the most important deal and for that reason I think it's quite clear that we need to end up wit ha greater approach here on premier league.

If they want to win Europa that's great but they may not win it all, and if they do fail, they won't be in any UEFA competition next season at all, it's better to have something much simpler, it would guarantee a bit of happiness in the end for sure.

Manchester United were able to come from behind to beat their hosts Viktoria Plzen yesterday which also marked their first away win in Europe in their last 20 games but that doesn't make them a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League trophy this season. They can still improve and maybe win it this season to the surprise of many including myself but realistically, I think there are other stronger teams in the competition

Manchester United's performance yesterday was very impressive, although from the start of the game, I saw the potential that they would be able to win the game because they looked stronger than Viktoria Plzen in the game, even though all the goals were gotten in the second half, but still they tried their best. But for now, think that Manchester United will be able to be the champions this season. The Europa League is somehow not sounding well. Did you forget about the team that takes this championship personally, like Lazio and Bilbao? Will you think they will stay to watch Manchester United overcome them? No, so it will not be possible for them, as I am seeing the way the season is going, they will hardly have that chance.

Nothing was impressive from the way they played, that was an average performance from a big club like Manchester United who is known to be one of the biggest club in the Premier League, certainly much was expected from them than what was experienced during the game. Manchester United does not look like a team that'll love to win the title, with this level of performance they are unable to defeat the tough guys currently in the League.

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Quote from: irhact on December 13, 2024, 03:37:30 PM

Onana wasn't as bad as a keeper as he is when he was playing for his former club. He's a decent goalkeeper but the flaws of Manchester United defence is exposing him alot and this make him to have all those errors we see in matches. Onana is also on a huge salary and not playing him is a waste to the club and it'll reduce the market value of Onana.

Manchester United's defense is just horrible. Manchester United’s defense is one of the reasons why Onana concedes so many goals, because there are some balls that are not even supposed to get to Onana, but due to Manchester United’s poor defense, opponents are always finding it so easy to penetrate the defense. I know Onana do make some errors, and we know that Onana is not really consistent, sometimes he does perform increasingly well, but in some matches, his performance is always poor, there are some goals that he should stop, but he do end up making mistakes, but if Manchester United has a strong defense, then it will have helped, and people won’t really be complaining about onana.

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Amorim is trying to understand Manchester United, I can say that it is his obligation to know and adjust to his strategy in making Manchester United better.
But you can see how difficult it is for the Manchester United team to win the match after Onana initially made a mistake when backing up to Manchester United's lower players.
With the victory at the end of the match, their position is now fairly safe to advance to the next round.

And it is not easy to change a team that was previously not good to be better, and Ruben Amorim gambled to make Manchester United better than before and it did not take a short time because Ruben Amorim could be said to be very new and only one month and two weeks with Manchester United and to build a team to be better and also make all the differences or others become fluid but I am sure Ruben Amorim has that ability, and all that is just a matter of time. And Onana became a hot topic because he made a blunder when he was about to pass to Matthijs de Ligt and the pass was successfully cut by Pavel Sulc who then provided an assist to Matej Vydra to score a goal in the first half, but fortunately Hojlund was able to turn things around and the score became 1-2 and also brought Manchester United to 7th place in the standings.

Amorin is really trying his possible best to see that Manchester united becomes better but i think the team is still lacking capacity in some of the positions especially in their midfield. With the little time that Amorim has spent in Manchester united and being able to put the team in a more better form than when Ten Hag was the club's manager, i really appreciate Amorin for his efforts in trying to re-adjust the team to a standard. Manchester united may not be in a stable form now but with time, Amorin will sort out some lapses in the team and they will become formidable again. Onana has been very controversial in his position as the goal stopper but his mistakes is becoming so annoying and if he doesn't improve, they should consider signing a new goal keeper that will not make so many mistakes like Onana. When the goal keeper is not handling his position perfectly, it weakens the defenders and it also kills their energy so the club should also give priority to the goal keeping position.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 13, 2024, 03:37:29 PM

Manchester United were able to come from behind to beat their hosts Viktoria Plzen yesterday which also marked their first away win in Europe in their last 20 games but that doesn't make them a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League trophy this season. They can still improve and maybe win it this season to the surprise of many including myself but realistically, I think there are other stronger teams in the competition

In the European League currently, Lazio, who is at the top of the standings, really looks like the most solid team this season in the European League. Because Lazio hasn't even lost 6 matches in the European League. And not only that, Lazio also has a good trend in Serie A which seems to be a sign that this team deserves to be a strong candidate to win the European League title. Man United may have recovered because Amorim seems to have succeeded in improving this team's performance to be a little better. Even though the Viktoria vs Man United match was quite tense, Viktoria initially managed to lead by 1 goal, but fortunately Man United managed to respond with 2 goals which led to Man United being able to collect full points. And there is one more team that also managed to recover, namely AS Roma. Because this team also managed to get full points by beating Braga with a score of 3-0. And it is quite extraordinary that AS Roma was able to maintain a solid defense in this match. It looks like Ranieri has really brought very good changes to this team.

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Quote from: Docnaster on December 13, 2024, 03:37:29 PM

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While I do agree that Europa isn't a big task for United, it's also not an easy feat neither. It is quite tough to consider what kind of opponents they may face, and it is not always that easy, this isn't their first time in Europa lately, they have been here a few times and they do lose, and I think that's the most important part. If they end up losing like this then we are going to end up with some issues without a doubt, I think that's the most important deal and for that reason I think it's quite clear that we need to end up wit ha greater approach here on premier league.

If they want to win Europa that's great but they may not win it all, and if they do fail, they won't be in any UEFA competition next season at all, it's better to have something much simpler, it would guarantee a bit of happiness in the end for sure.

Manchester United were able to come from behind to beat their hosts Viktoria Plzen yesterday which also marked their first away win in Europe in their last 20 games but that doesn't make them a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League trophy this season. They can still improve and maybe win it this season to the surprise of many including myself but realistically, I think there are other stronger teams in the competition

Manchester United's performance yesterday was very impressive, although from the start of the game, I saw the potential that they would be able to win the game because they looked stronger than Viktoria Plzen in the game, even though all the goals were gotten in the second half, but still they tried their best. But for now, think that Manchester United will be able to be the champions this season. The Europa League is somehow not sounding well. Did you forget about the team that takes this championship personally, like Lazio and Bilbao? Will you think they will stay to watch Manchester United overcome them? No, so it will not be possible for them, as I am seeing the way the season is going, they will hardly have that chance.

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Quote from: mammusu on December 12, 2024, 11:06:25 PM

When Onana often makes fatal mistakes but still becomes the main goalkeeper of manchester united at this time, can you imagine how bad the quality and standard of backup goalkeepers owned by manchester united when the clown can become the main goalkeeper? Grin

It is indefensible because however, seeing the goal for Victoria Plzen was indeed a fatal mistake made by Onana in this match but indeed this is not the first mistake because previously also on several occasions he seemed hesitant in making decisions even though it was quite beneficial because the wrong decisions he made did not lead to goals.

Manchester United still have a lot of obstacles for the squad at the moment where indeed the performance that occurs is not only from the difficulty of Amorim doing some game schemes and attacks but also this happens as a result of several players who still cannot give their best including Onana.

This is still a very difficult job for Amorim because apart from the pressure faced at this time is very large, he is also definitely required to make changes which in the end this will definitely have an impact on the squad overhaul next season if Manchester United gives full control to Amorim.

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