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November 10, 2024, 06:48:26 AM
You are right I am one of those who are amazed by the performance that ajax gave in yesterday's match this big win will at least convince most people that the Dutch league representative can talk a lot in the uefa europa league competition this season or even they can go further if their consistency can be maintained well. It seems that ajax wants to focus more on this competition than the eredivisie.
In the Eredivisie Ajax is also still in a better position and it is even possible to win first place this season even though Ajax must also focus more on the Europa League this season. Winning with a big score at home is a very pleasant thing for Ajax because they can slaughter their opponents without reply and that has become proof that Ajax is a team that is still very good this season.
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November 10, 2024, 06:40:16 AM
In addition, the inclusion of Solanke was actually too late in my opinion
Ange Postecoglou preferred to rest some of his players. Because Tottenham won all of their 3 Europa League games before playing against Galatasaray. I respect this decision because Tottenham already has many injured players.


Winning all of their first three games in the UEFA Europa League competition this season I don't think is enough reason for Ange Postecoglou to bench his most important players when his team is facing a strong team like Galatasaray who are very much capable of defeating any team in the competition. That tactical approach to rest his big players and still expect good result didn't work out as planned by the Tottenham manager but I want to believe that his main reason of doing that was to save his players from getting injured. That being said, I think Tottenham stands a very good chance of progressing to the next round of the competition but I suggest they take this UEL competition this season very serious in other to reach the final or probably win it at the end of the season
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November 10, 2024, 06:25:01 AM
Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.
There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.
Ruud van Nistelrooy deserves credit, he's done a great job. I mean, he's kept Manchester United from going further down the pecking order, which is not an easy job, and I think that's enough even though many people don't see it as an improvement. Meanwhile, everyone is quite curious about Ruben Amorim, his arrival is expected to have an instant impact on The Red Devils. In the next few hours, the former Sporting CP manager will take over the Manchester United dressing room.
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November 10, 2024, 06:15:46 AM
You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated. We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals. There have been cases where players agree to underperform to make the club sack a coach so I wouldn't doubt if this is the same strategy that the players adopted. The club refused to sack him when it was clear that his performance had dropped, rather they gave him a new contact. We might not know what went wrong in the locker until a player opens up.       

Should players with this mindset remain in the biggest premier league club? I say it daily, most of these lads in this squad will never make it to Sir Alex Ferguson's team and not even Pep Guardiola's team. They have thrown three to four managers under the bus and they still remain inside the club. Players with high payrolls and this is how they payback the club? Completely traumatized whenever I watch these lads play. I'm currently not expecting nothing from the new manager if most of these british players mentally poor are still with him.
A conspiracy that often appears in social media discussions that I often see. But I personally am quite skeptical about it, because do the players really do this kind of thing because they don't like the coach? I choose not to think in that direction, because I have seen many players fail but they can perform better when a new coach handles them, I prefer to see this as something natural. Because there are many factors that will influence this kind of thing, it could be because the coach's strategy is not understood by the players, or the coach himself does not understand the character of each player they have. But on the other hand I also enjoy this conspiracy and make it an entertainment.  Grin
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November 10, 2024, 04:51:51 AM
You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated. We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals. There have been cases where players agree to underperform to make the club sack a coach so I wouldn't doubt if this is the same strategy that the players adopted. The club refused to sack him when it was clear that his performance had dropped, rather they gave him a new contact. We might not know what went wrong in the locker until a player opens up.       

Should players with this mindset remain in the biggest premier league club? I say it daily, most of these lads in this squad will never make it to Sir Alex Ferguson's team and not even Pep Guardiola's team. They have thrown three to four managers under the bus and they still remain inside the club. Players with high payrolls and this is how they payback the club? Completely traumatized whenever I watch these lads play. I'm currently not expecting nothing from the new manager if most of these british players mentally poor are still with him.
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November 10, 2024, 02:34:20 AM
At first I didn't expect Ajax to get win like this because even though I believe Ajax can play well, their chances of winning are still not that big, but they managed to do it and made everyone happy to see them beat Maccabi.
Most surprising thing for me is their good performance in the Europa League and now they are in second place in 4 match showing 3 win with 1 draw, yesterday big win 5 - 0 from Maccabi was quite fun game to watch.

Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.
Ajax's performance in the Europa League is quite good so far, they have not experienced defeat and have only found 1 draw from the 4 matches they have played, even the productivity of goals created by Ajax is more than the club at the top of the standings at the moment, so it can be concluded that Ajax's defense is quite good so far, even in their last match they were able to won by a landslide by creating clean sheet, this is good news for the Eredivisi representative team because one of them will be a strong competitor in the Europa League this season.
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November 10, 2024, 01:28:39 AM
Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.
There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.
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November 09, 2024, 11:14:09 PM
However, the way they performed under their former manager, they have little chance of doing well in the Europa League. However, whoever takes over at Manchester United tomorrow will surely want to succeed in taking on the tough challenges of the Europa League. Supporters and management will be very happy if their team performance improves.
Sometimes it's not always what we expect, MU under interim coach Ruud van Nistelrooy was showed an increase in their performance, they have never lost in the last 3 matches. If Amorim takes Ruud's position on 11th November, the fans will compare the situation with the coach before. it's not impossible the fans want Ruud back to MU as coach if Amorim can't realize what they want. Yes, this is a complex situation for Amorim, he has to do homework to make MU the same as Ruud did, in the other hand, the fans want MU to be better than Ruud.

I don't what Amorim's strategy to make them happy, this is a difficult situation because he can't buy players before the Windows transfer opening, so in that situation, he only utilizes existing players.
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November 09, 2024, 09:08:12 PM

But after all, in reality Erik ten Hag still failed and even though he managed to make Manchester United get a trophy but Erik ten Hag was still fired.

The thing is that TenHag did practically nothing, just look at the results that MU has now in comparison to how it developed in the PL, it got to 14th place, and that was enough for the board to react so that they wouldn't continue their decline, practically what Ten Hag won is not something really significant, he only saved his ass for a while, then his time to leave finally came because for me they prolonged it too much and they paid for it with the position they have now, the good thing is that any coach that arrives will do much better than Ten Hag.

The ironic thing is that Manchester United was too desperate to win a trophy that they became ignorant from the truth even when Cristiano Ronaldo spoke about Ten Hag, at that time he was hated by some of the fans but I guess we can say now, they all see the truth. Ruud van Nistelrooy has been doing well getting their first European league win after a long while. Though there are still much work to do here and Ruben Amorim will be having a difficult tasks.
It is natural for Manchester United to be desperate to win a trophy in any tournament. It's been a long time since Manchester United won the Premier League title and longer than that since Manchester United did well in the Champions League. Since they will not be able to play in the Champions League this season, their biggest goal this season is to do well in the Europa League and win the Champions League here. However, the way they performed under their former manager, they have little chance of doing well in the Europa League. However, whoever takes over at Manchester United tomorrow will surely want to succeed in taking on the tough challenges of the Europa League. Supporters and management will be very happy if their team performance improves.
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November 09, 2024, 06:29:10 PM
In addition, the inclusion of Solanke was actually too late in my opinion
Ange Postecoglou preferred to rest some of his players. Because Tottenham won all of their 3 Europa League games before playing against Galatasaray. I respect this decision because Tottenham already has many injured players.


If the condition is already quite risky, a coach will definitely make this decision, maybe not an easy decision, because there will be risks, but it will be even more risky if more players are injured.

yes, until now, there are at least 5 Tottenham players who have been injured, and the possibility of their return is still unknown when. This happened almost simultaneously in the last 2 months, imagine how confused Ange Postecoglou is for conditions like this, especially since their squad is not as many as other top clubs that are good for substitution. Moreover, in the next match of UCL, there was 1 player who got a red card and was suspended, so this is even less.
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November 09, 2024, 05:36:07 PM
Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.
I agree that Manchester United haven't played against really tough team except for Chelsea since after the exit of ten hag but even with the week teams they have played against,  you will agree with me that their performance has shown a whole lot of improvement and their game play is much better than that of the times they had ten hag still as their head coach but what they will be battling now would be how to maintain this sucks that they will be consistent enough till the end of the season and probably secure a trophy, after all with the Europa they have been seen as one key favorite to win the trophy.
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November 09, 2024, 03:22:52 PM
You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated.
From the way Manchester United are playing currently, it’s just obvious that Manchester United players are having personal problems with ten hag, and they wanted him sacked, and they have been able to achieve that. All the poor performance from players is intentional. Since Ten Hag left Manchester United, the way the players are playing is just completely different. I just hope Manchester United's performance is going to improve since ten hag is not longer their coach.

We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals.
Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.
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November 09, 2024, 01:18:17 PM
At first I didn't expect Ajax to get win like this because even though I believe Ajax can play well, their chances of winning are still not that big, but they managed to do it and made everyone happy to see them beat Maccabi.
Most surprising thing for me is their good performance in the Europa League and now they are in second place in 4 match showing 3 win with 1 draw, yesterday big win 5 - 0 from Maccabi was quite fun game to watch.

Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.

ajax was really able to take advantage of their dominance, attacking well and converting it into goals. 3 goals in the first half and 2 goals in the second half were extraordinary. And what was unexpected was that the goals were not created by just one person, but by 5 people who produced five goals.

In the midst of ajax's dominance, Tel Aviv had time to make several attacks and penetrate ajax's defense several times, but it was very unfortunate that several of these attacks did not produce perfect results and became goals to reduce the defeat, so that in the end they had to lose with a score of 5-0.

And this is not a surprising result for ajax, because from the first leg of the UEFA Europa League, ajax had shown that they would be one of the dominant clubs in this league, by destroying besiktas with a score of 4-0
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November 09, 2024, 12:38:42 PM
Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.
You are right I am one of those who are amazed by the performance that ajax gave in yesterday's match this big win will at least convince most people that the Dutch league representative can talk a lot in the uefa europa league competition this season or even they can go further if their consistency can be maintained well. It seems that ajax wants to focus more on this competition than the eredivisie.
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November 09, 2024, 12:20:09 PM
In addition, the inclusion of Solanke was actually too late in my opinion

Ange Postecoglou preferred to rest some of his players. Because Tottenham won all of their 3 Europa League games before playing against Galatasaray. I respect this decision because Tottenham already has many injured players.


Postecoglou decision to rest some key players was a wise move, given the hectic schedule and the number of injuries tottenham are currently experiencing, but on the other hand it had an impact on their performance and also their ability to win that the match, defeat from galatasaray has shown the weakness of postecoglou rotation in that match, although he intends to give rest to their main players, but postecoglou could have been wiser to play at least a creative striker like solanke in the match to first win the match before play second-tier players to defend their victory, I hope the defeat from galatasaray will be an experience for postecoglou in the future in rotating players while maintaining squad balance in a match.
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November 09, 2024, 11:35:28 AM
In addition, the inclusion of Solanke was actually too late in my opinion

Ange Postecoglou preferred to rest some of his players. Because Tottenham won all of their 3 Europa League games before playing against Galatasaray. I respect this decision because Tottenham already has many injured players.

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November 09, 2024, 08:32:33 AM
At first I didn't expect Ajax to get win like this because even though I believe Ajax can play well, their chances of winning are still not that big, but they managed to do it and made everyone happy to see them beat Maccabi.
Most surprising thing for me is their good performance in the Europa League and now they are in second place in 4 match showing 3 win with 1 draw, yesterday big win 5 - 0 from Maccabi was quite fun game to watch.

Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.
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November 09, 2024, 07:49:32 AM
As a manager, there is how you will talk and motivate your players in order for them to bring out the best in them or have the passion to win matches, but Ten Hag lacks that quality. Instead, he would come to the media and put all the blame on the players, do you think they will be happy to have someone that criticize them as their coach. I think that a good, and successful coach is not only by his experience and skills on the field, but also by having a good relationship with his players and motivate the players at the right time for them to play with passion and zeal so that they can win the game.
You are right, experience and expertise as a coach are the second and third options. The most important thing is how the coach understands the nature of all players and provides closeness to unite chemistry. And related to chemistry not only between players and players but if a player has closeness with the coach, of course the tactics and strategies given can be more perfect. That is Ten Hag weakness and without us realizing he always has problems with players and of course it will affect the performance of the squad and also sometimes players can punish the coach in different ways.
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November 09, 2024, 07:26:13 AM
To be fair, United didn't even play any different formation or strategy or even players. Most of those players did played there and I believe most of the players are the same as well. This is why I believe the players are just playing better because they just like the manager better. I am still on belief that ETH talked about players badly, and that is why players played bad knowing that if they play bad, ETH would be fired and that's why they lost so many games.

United was never this bad, they were always good enough to win, they were good enough to be at a better place than this as well. I just believe that they ended up playing badly to get him fired. Not that ETH is a good manager, he sucks and part of the reason is he lost the locker room and that's why he got fired.

You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated. We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals. There have been cases where players agree to underperform to make the club sack a coach so I wouldn't doubt if this is the same strategy that the players adopted. The club refused to sack him when it was clear that his performance had dropped, rather they gave him a new contact. We might not know what went wrong in the locker until a player opens up.       
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November 09, 2024, 04:47:42 AM
To be fair, United didn't even play any different formation or strategy or even players. Most of those players did played there and I believe most of the players are the same as well. This is why I believe the players are just playing better because they just like the manager better. I am still on belief that ETH talked about players badly, and that is why players played bad knowing that if they play bad, ETH would be fired and that's why they lost so many games.

United was never this bad, they were always good enough to win, they were good enough to be at a better place than this as well. I just believe that they ended up playing badly to get him fired. Not that ETH is a good manager, he sucks and part of the reason is he lost the locker room and that's why he got fired.
As a manager, there is how you will talk and motivate your players in order for them to bring out the best in them or have the passion to win matches, but Ten Hag lacks that quality. Instead, he would come to the media and put all the blame on the players, do you think they will be happy to have someone that criticize them as their coach. I think that a good, and successful coach is not only by his experience and skills on the field, but also by having a good relationship with his players and motivate the players at the right time for them to play with passion and zeal so that they can win the game.
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