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After a poor performance from the start of the season to a few games ago, it was certainly important for Manchester United to come back like this, which Manchester United have been able to do well. Manchester United did not fare well in the Europa League despite being considered early favorites for the Europa League. Manchester United won the last match in Europa League but the goal difference should have been more because in that match Manchester United performed well on the field but they did not have shots on target and did not finish well. Managers and players should be more serious about the upcoming matches of the European League so that they can recover the previous lost points through the next match. Manchester United still has plenty of opportunities and potential in the Europa League.

Manchester United has regained form and is winning back-to-back games. What a great performance by Manchester United and its new coach, Amorim. if they can keep up their fine work, I am confident they will win a trophy before the season ends. Everyone believed that Manchester United's weak point was Erik Ten Hag, but since the new coach took over, they have yet to lose a point. If Manchester United can win all three remaining Europa League matches, they would automatically qualify for the next round. I am confident that Manchester United will perform well in their remaining games and qualify because they have hired the best coach. But now that Amorim has left Sporting, they have been losing last two games they play they lose in the Ucl and still lose in the league. Let see how the season will end and see if Amorim will achieve Europa League for the club and probably other trophy.

This is true because Manchester United has improved their performance at least in the UEFA Europa League. However, they have not fully recovered from their slump.. Consistency and balance of play still big homework for this team.

A couple of victories on the bounce have renewed optimism but results in the English Premier League remain below what is anticipated. They are still struggling to maintain stable performance and often lose points in matches that should have been won “To win trophies this season,” Manchester United will need to strengthen the side's mentality and keep in good rhythm of the game— not just in Europe.

Amorim's arrival does bring hope, though, in time, he will prove whether he can bring much-needed steadiness in the long run. f not, good performance in one competition may not mean much if they fail in the domestic competition. because if the target is only to win the UEFA Europa League, with Ten Hag Manchester United managed to achieve it.

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Many will take the betting option that Manchester United will win in the continuation of the UEFA Europa League, but I think like you that on paper Manchester United can still be relied on because Manchester United is a famous team that plays in a famous league, while their opponents are not followed like they follow Manchester United.
Behind that, I have a feeling that Manchester United will not easily win as favored because this match is not taking place in England but in the Czech Republic.

Currently, Amorim is trying to understand problems in this club as he is also having not good start even we have fair chance for them to stay into top 24 and have chance of going into next round, but things are still not favourable for them to have good results.

Amorim is trying to understand Manchester United, I can say that it is his obligation to know and adjust to his strategy in making Manchester United better.
But you can see how difficult it is for the Manchester United team to win the match after Onana initially made a mistake when backing up to Manchester United's lower players.
With the victory at the end of the match, their position is now fairly safe to advance to the next round.

And it is not easy to change a team that was previously not good to be better, and Ruben Amorim gambled to make Manchester United better than before and it did not take a short time because Ruben Amorim could be said to be very new and only one month and two weeks with Manchester United and to build a team to be better and also make all the differences or others become fluid but I am sure Ruben Amorim has that ability, and all that is just a matter of time. And Onana became a hot topic because he made a blunder when he was about to pass to Matthijs de Ligt and the pass was successfully cut by Pavel Sulc who then provided an assist to Matej Vydra to score a goal in the first half, but fortunately Hojlund was able to turn things around and the score became 1-2 and also brought Manchester United to 7th place in the standings.

Honestly, it is not really easy to change team, especially when the set of players in a team are not that serious. Ruben Amorim is even trying with the results he has gotten in some matches. I don't even expect those results from Manchester United because of the level of their unseriousness.

I believe that, before Ruben Amorim is able to reform Manchester United, it will really take time because he needs to sign some new quality players, and it can't happen all at once. We all saw the way Chelsea suffered after the club's form dropped. It is only recently that they are getting back their form, and that is because they now have serious players, which makes the job easier for Chelsea's new coach.as for now, I am not expecting any trophies from Manchester United with their current form this season.

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Quote from: mammusu on December 12, 2024, 11:06:25 PM

When Onana often makes fatal mistakes but still becomes the main goalkeeper of manchester united at this time, can you imagine how bad the quality and standard of backup goalkeepers owned by manchester united when the clown can become the main goalkeeper? Grin

Onana wasn't as bad as a keeper as he is when he was playing for his former club. He's a decent goalkeeper but the flaws of Manchester United defence is exposing him alot and this make him to have all those errors we see in matches. Onana is also on a huge salary and not playing him is a waste to the club and it'll reduce the market value of Onana. He needs to be very active to help boost his mentality too. Onana has been good for Manchester United this season as he has lots of clean sheet and also saves too. What I think makes him to look very awful is as he gets faced with lots of chance at goal since his defense don't help him out.

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Quote from: bitgolden on December 13, 2024, 03:28:04 PM

While I do agree that Europa isn't a big task for United, it's also not an easy feat neither. It is quite tough to consider what kind of opponents they may face, and it is not always that easy, this isn't their first time in Europa lately, they have been here a few times and they do lose, and I think that's the most important part. If they end up losing like this then we are going to end up with some issues without a doubt, I think that's the most important deal and for that reason I think it's quite clear that we need to end up wit ha greater approach here on premier league.

If they want to win Europa that's great but they may not win it all, and if they do fail, they won't be in any UEFA competition next season at all, it's better to have something much simpler, it would guarantee a bit of happiness in the end for sure.

Manchester United were able to come from behind to beat their hosts Viktoria Plzen yesterday which also marked their first away win in Europe in their last 20 games but that doesn't make them a strong contender for the UEFA Europa League trophy this season. They can still improve and maybe win it this season to the surprise of many including myself but realistically, I think there are other stronger teams in the competition

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Many will take the betting option that Manchester United will win in the continuation of the UEFA Europa League, but I think like you that on paper Manchester United can still be relied on because Manchester United is a famous team that plays in a famous league, while their opponents are not followed like they follow Manchester United.
Behind that, I have a feeling that Manchester United will not easily win as favored because this match is not taking place in England but in the Czech Republic.

Currently, Amorim is trying to understand problems in this club as he is also having not good start even we have fair chance for them to stay into top 24 and have chance of going into next round, but things are still not favourable for them to have good results.

Amorim is trying to understand Manchester United, I can say that it is his obligation to know and adjust to his strategy in making Manchester United better.
But you can see how difficult it is for the Manchester United team to win the match after Onana initially made a mistake when backing up to Manchester United's lower players.
With the victory at the end of the match, their position is now fairly safe to advance to the next round.

And it is not easy to change a team that was previously not good to be better, and Ruben Amorim gambled to make Manchester United better than before and it did not take a short time because Ruben Amorim could be said to be very new and only one month and two weeks with Manchester United and to build a team to be better and also make all the differences or others become fluid but I am sure Ruben Amorim has that ability, and all that is just a matter of time. And Onana became a hot topic because he made a blunder when he was about to pass to Matthijs de Ligt and the pass was successfully cut by Pavel Sulc who then provided an assist to Matej Vydra to score a goal in the first half, but fortunately Hojlund was able to turn things around and the score became 1-2 and also brought Manchester United to 7th place in the standings.

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While I do agree that Europa isn't a big task for United, it's also not an easy feat neither. It is quite tough to consider what kind of opponents they may face, and it is not always that easy, this isn't their first time in Europa lately, they have been here a few times and they do lose, and I think that's the most important part. If they end up losing like this then we are going to end up with some issues without a doubt, I think that's the most important deal and for that reason I think it's quite clear that we need to end up wit ha greater approach here on premier league.

If they want to win Europa that's great but they may not win it all, and if they do fail, they won't be in any UEFA competition next season at all, it's better to have something much simpler, it would guarantee a bit of happiness in the end for sure.

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Quote from: BIT-BENDER on December 12, 2024, 04:21:21 PM

The Manchester United coach may be regretting his decisions because Manchester United is making his reputation go to the dust. Today I would have taught that Manchester United would win this game without any issues but that's not the case. They did not dominate the match as they were supposed to and they have to take the match down the wire before they won
I think both Manchester United and Their present coach were better off before they meet as I like the way Ruud was handling the team and the way sporting were playing.

I disagree. Ruben Amorim knew what he signed up for and he is more than capable to significantly transform Manchester United into a winning team again. Their recent Europa Europa match against plzen saw Manchester United produce a brilliant result as they dominated the game from the beginning to the end and if not for the costly error of onana united would have had a clean sheet in that match. Manchester United under Ruben Amorim has gradually started to display a strong winning mentality and I am sure with time Ruben Amorim will be able to turn United into champions once again.

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Quote from: Dickiy on December 13, 2024, 07:12:14 AM

Lyon played very well in the match, although Frankfurt was superior in terms of ball possession, but in terms of opportunities obtained by both teams, Lyon was superior and even though they were behind by one goal in the first half, it did not affect their performance, the factor of playing at home also increased the confidence of the players.
But apart from their victory, I am impressed with Lyon's overall performance in the two competitions they are playing, even though they are currently still plagued by problems, they can still perform well in the local league and in the European League competition.

Yeah, I expected Frankfurt to win as well, considering what's going on with Lyon these days, I am quite sure that I never expect them to win any game, even against bad teams, Lyon must have some morale drop because of what's going on as well. I mean the mistake wasn't really a mistake, they knew what they were doing, they didn't had the money to make 100+ million worth transfers and they did it anyway, have absolutely no clue why, maybe they assumed they were about to sell some players for a lot of money so that is why they did it?

I have no clue to be fair but they did, and when you spend more money than you have, or at least financial fair play allows you to spend, then you will end up like this, there is no doubt. In any case, they are showing resilience and trying their hardest to keep it going and they are still looking pretty decent. Beating Frankfurt is a good proof of that, I would say Frankfurt is clearly a better team, but that doesn't mean we are going to end up seeing Lyon beat everyone neither.

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Manchester United was able to make a come back in this match from one goal down to 2-1 with the help of Hojiluund who scored the two goals to give United three points away from home.

Plzen is a weak club and if not for Onana mistake, I don't think that they would have been able to score any goal. This is a good result for Amorim and he should stay more focus on this league because he has an upper hand to win it, if the United can be consistent.

Manchester United’s comeback was good and it showed their determination to get the points from the match. I also think Manchester United defense was sloppy and gave out the early goal but it was good how the reacted to it and and turn the scores around. What a nice performance from Ruben Amorim and his players. If only Manchester United can stay this focused and deciplined in the Europa league then it would be realistic to say they will be able to lift this season's Europa league trophy.

If Plzen is a weak team, then Manchester United should be able to win easily, and not have such drama. So, although Manchester United managed to turn things around but still, Manchester United still really need time to be able to enter the candidate for the trophy. After all, if there is no significant development until later in the knockout phase, and if Manchester United are still in this situation and performance, then I personally believe they will fall. But yes, maybe it's too early to say whether Manchester United will make it to the final or maybe they will fall. But for me, Amorim really still has to do his best to make Manchester United even better.

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Ruben Amorim has not been with Man United for a month and he has not played 10 matches with Man United, so it is clear that his identity is not yet visible. However, according to what Amorim said himself when he first entered Man United, his "idea" of the game is already visible. He managed to change the way Man United plays and this mission game is good for Man United in the future. The EPL League is indeed less competitive but they will maximize their best to give their best and indeed if you look at Amorim's current target for Man United they will pursue the European league trophy because with the European champions of course they will automatically enter the UCL league next season.

Man United's performance in the European league is not too bad but not good either, but Amorim still has time to build the Man United squad to be strong and solid. Amorim must also dare to reprimand Onana so that he learns from the mistakes he often makes. Because sometimes Onana makes his defenders unnecessarily stressed with opposing attackers lurking nearby Or he will waste time when taking a goal kick until it is blocked.

Yes, the ideas and concepts brought by Ruben Amorin are indeed very good, but not yet fully successful. At least there is still a lot of work to be completed by Ruben Amorin and make good improvements, so that whatever ideas, concepts and schemes will be implemented by Amorin can run well and provide good results.

And if we talk about Man United's performance in the UEFA European Cup qualifying round, with yesterday's victory over Viktoria, Man United managed to enter the top eight of the standings, and this is something that must be maintained if the target is to qualify directly for the last 16 without having to go through the playoffs first. especially if the main hope is to be able to win the UEFA European League trophy, so that it can allow them to perform at a higher level, namely the UCL.

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Many will take the betting option that Manchester United will win in the continuation of the UEFA Europa League, but I think like you that on paper Manchester United can still be relied on because Manchester United is a famous team that plays in a famous league, while their opponents are not followed like they follow Manchester United.
Behind that, I have a feeling that Manchester United will not easily win as favored because this match is not taking place in England but in the Czech Republic.

Currently, Amorim is trying to understand problems in this club as he is also having not good start even we have fair chance for them to stay into top 24 and have chance of going into next round, but things are still not favourable for them to have good results.

Amorim is trying to understand Manchester United, I can say that it is his obligation to know and adjust to his strategy in making Manchester United better.
But you can see how difficult it is for the Manchester United team to win the match after Onana initially made a mistake when backing up to Manchester United's lower players.
With the victory at the end of the match, their position is now fairly safe to advance to the next round.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 13, 2024, 05:52:36 AM

Lyon vs Frankfurt.

This match was not as expected even though Frankfurt was able to score first in the early minutes of the first half, falling behind first, not long after Lyon was able to equalize to draw. Lyon appeared more dominant in the first half, they also had many opportunities and even 2 shots hit the goalpost. In the second half, not long after Lyon increased their lead by adding 2 goals scored by Fotana and Nuamah. While Frankfurt, they were only able to reduce the defeat by scoring 1 more goal by Marmoush. As a result, this match was won by Lyon with a score of 3-2. An interesting and quite tough match, unfortunately my prediction was wrong. Lyon is now in 4th place, while Frankfurt has dropped to 5th place
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This is hard match for Lyon because previously Frankfurt have displayed good performance and before this match Frankfurt status is unbeated and finally Lyon can able to ended Frankfurt unbeated records in this competition and as we all know Lyon had a problem with their financial even they almost be bankrupt but surprisingly these conditions doesn't bringing negative impact for Lyon performance because basically in all competitions Lyon performance is still stable and if i am not mistaken to qualified to the next round Lyon only required 1 more win and if Lyon can beat Fenerbahce they will most likely will be advances to the round of 16

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Quote from: Ruttoshi on December 12, 2024, 02:47:17 PM

Manchester United was able to make a come back in this match from one goal down to 2-1 with the help of Hojiluund who scored the two goals to give United three points away from home.

Plzen is a weak club and if not for Onana mistake, I don't think that they would have been able to score any goal. This is a good result for Amorim and he should stay more focus on this league because he has an upper hand to win it, if the United can be consistent.

Manchester United’s comeback was good and it showed their determination to get the points from the match. I also think Manchester United defense was sloppy and gave out the early goal but it was good how the reacted to it and and turn the scores around. What a nice performance from Ruben Amorim and his players. If only Manchester United can stay this focused and deciplined in the Europa league then it would be realistic to say they will be able to lift this season's Europa league trophy.

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I was wondering why Beşiktaş was given 9 odds to win Bodø/Glimt because ordinarily, they are very good and ought to win that match. Little did I know that many other factors were put into consideration in fixing the odds. Glad you clarified although your post came late as I have already bet Beşiktaş to win and lost a fortune. I was just lucky to also bet other matches that returned some of my money with which I can bet my games this coming weekend. I actually agree with you that Beşiktaş deserve at least a point but football is not by wish but by reality.

I couldn't understand why the bookmakers gave such high odds either. The team might have missing players, they might be playing away, but the odds were astronomical. As a matter of fact, Beşiktaş managed to take the lead and had a chance to win the match. If Ersin hadn't made that mistake to start the game fast, maybe Beşiktaş would have gone into the break 1-0 up. Then the second half would have been very different. Bodø/Glimt would have attacked to find a goal and would have left spaces in the defense. Football is a game of mistakes, the one who makes less mistakes wins. The players still put up a good fight.

Beşiktaş and the other Turkish teams are quite inconsistent comparing to teams playing in major European leagues. Personally, I don't follow a lot the odds on these types of matches and Beşiktaş is a team that has serious problems to collect the 3 points. Same goes for Fenerbahce which lost by two goals against Athletic Bilbao and Galatasaray took a point, at least, from Malmo.
Beşiktaş is out of the standings ,sitting in the 28th position with only 6 points..

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Quote from: adultcrypto on December 12, 2024, 06:09:46 PM

I was wondering why Beşiktaş was given 9 odds to win Bodø/Glimt because ordinarily, they are very good and ought to win that match. Little did I know that many other factors were put into consideration in fixing the odds. Glad you clarified although your post came late as I have already bet Beşiktaş to win and lost a fortune. I was just lucky to also bet other matches that returned some of my money with which I can bet my games this coming weekend. I actually agree with you that Beşiktaş deserve at least a point but football is not by wish but by reality.

I couldn't understand why the bookmakers gave such high odds either. The team might have missing players, they might be playing away, but the odds were astronomical. As a matter of fact, Beşiktaş managed to take the lead and had a chance to win the match. If Ersin hadn't made that mistake to start the game fast, maybe Beşiktaş would have gone into the break 1-0 up. Then the second half would have been very different. Bodø/Glimt would have attacked to find a goal and would have left spaces in the defense. Football is a game of mistakes, the one who makes less mistakes wins. The players still put up a good fight.

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The teams in the European league are generally much weaker than the teams in the Premier League. Therefore, it is more realistic to aim for the Europa League championship inst ead of the Premier League championship. If we consider that none of the teams in the Champions League will be included in the Europa League this year, the strongest team among the existing teams may be Manchester United. Of course, there are a few teams that will challenge them, such as Lazio or Athletic or Tottenham. If Manchester United plays well in the finals against these teams, I think they can be Europa League champions.

Manchester United's performance in the Europa League this season is worthy of appreciation, but this is the initial stage where the real battle will take place in the knockout rounds. The round of 16 is much more challenging than the current one, even if Manchester United's performance is good, then they will also get a different probability if the opponent is equal.

Several teams from La Liga and Serie A should be considered tough opponents in the race for the European League title this season. I agree Manchester United are worthy favorites based on their recent performance, but this will still differ depending on who they play in the last 16 and beyond.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on December 13, 2024, 09:05:50 AM

Where did you see improvement from Manchester United? I didn't even see that. They played averagely against a garbage team like Plzen. They were also almost losing the game as well.

Onana was pure liability in this game, and he owes Hojlund's paycheck this week with his blunder. I'm not seeing actual structure from Manchester United. They still lack tactical build.

It's also important to remember if it was Plzen, not a strong team. They're gonna struggle to face stronger team if they keep playing like that in EPL.

I can only see the positive in this game is Hojlund.

Europa League is competitive one and Manchester United wouldn't underrated any more oppositions they faced in this tournament, not after what happen yesterday against Viktoria Plzen. The Manchester United squad under Ruben Amorim is absolutely unserious following the poor performance they exhibits against Viktoria Plzen because this was a less important game for them, thrashing their oppositions was suppose to be the ultimate goal but what did we watch? Manchester United struggle for a comeback and eventually narrowly sealed 3 winning points. There's definitely something wrong with Manchester United if you ask me because the weakness are openly spotted out from the main goalkeeper, André Onana who's always making crucial mistakes that leads to conceding goals in his post. He's liability for Manchester United this season? Ofcourse yes but at the same time, he also made brilliant saves that accumulated three points and saved the day for the Red Devils, as counting his flaws we should also review the days he did his best for the club.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on December 13, 2024, 03:18:17 AM

Manchester United have improved their game a lot, especially in the Europa League. We saw that they won 1/2 against Viktoria Plzen in the last match. The great performance of Manchester United's players at the moment means that they may be in a good position in the Europa League. So I think that the current coach who is leading Man United forward so well will be successful. Moreover, Manchester United have not lost a single match in the Europa League so far, in fact they are undefeated, currently they are in 7th position in the points table, of course they will try to play better in the next matches.

Where did you see improvement from Manchester United? I didn't even see that. They played averagely against a garbage team like Plzen. They were also almost losing the game as well.

Onana was pure liability in this game, and he owes Hojlund's paycheck this week with his blunder. I'm not seeing actual structure from Manchester United. They still lack tactical build.

It's also important to remember if it was Plzen, not a strong team. They're gonna struggle to face stronger team if they keep playing like that in EPL.

I can only see the positive in this game is Hojlund.

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Manchester United is currently one of the few teams undefeated in the Europa League. I don't think they are doing too badly in the Europa League. What is more important for them is the Premier League. They normally aim to be champions in the Premier League, but they have been far from it for a few seasons now. Their main goal is to finish this year in the best way possible. They aim to climb to the top and go to the Champions League. However, their current ranking is not suitable for this. Becoming champions in the Europa League is perhaps the shortest way to do this. That is why the Portuguese manager will give more importance to this league than necessary.

I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

Ruben Amorim has not been with Man United for a month and he has not played 10 matches with Man United, so it is clear that his identity is not yet visible. However, according to what Amorim said himself when he first entered Man United, his "idea" of the game is already visible. He managed to change the way Man United plays and this mission game is good for Man United in the future. The EPL League is indeed less competitive but they will maximize their best to give their best and indeed if you look at Amorim's current target for Man United they will pursue the European league trophy because with the European champions of course they will automatically enter the UCL league next season.

Man United's performance in the European league is not too bad but not good either, but Amorim still has time to build the Man United squad to be strong and solid. Amorim must also dare to reprimand Onana so that he learns from the mistakes he often makes. Because sometimes Onana makes his defenders unnecessarily stressed with opposing attackers lurking nearby Or he will waste time when taking a goal kick until it is blocked.

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I think with their current condition Jim Ratcliffe can definitely think realistically and not target difficult things for Amorim this season. Maybe he just hopes that Man United can make good progress so that it can be an important provision for the following seasons. But if we look at their progress in the European League, it seems Man United still has hope to become champions and that is still a realistic target for them this season. Even though they are still far from satisfactory, but they have never lost in the Europa League.

Clearly, there is no other demand than to improve Man United performance, that is the only reason the club appointed Amorim as Ten Hag successor. This season there is still a lot that needs to be improved in the Man United squad, they are still performing inconsistently in the EPL and UEL. The January transfer window should be used to slowly build up the squad, at least Amorim can help Man United improve their position in the standings. Meanwhile, regarding their performance in the UEL, I am very pessimistic that they can survive longer because there are still other clubs that have been able to perform consistently throughout this season, such as Lazio and Athletic Club.

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