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January 26, 2025, 11:19:32 AM
I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.
It will be even more complicated because it is impossible for Manchester United to get players according to Amorim's needs in the near future so this can affect the team's performance in the competition in the League. Even winning the Europa League is still quite difficult for Manchester United because the team's condition is not so consistent and they will get a much tougher challenge when facing much tougher opponents. Amorim's situation in changing the team to be stronger is not easy because they have to sell some of the existing players first and after that buy some of the players needed and the club's finances must also be adjusted first.

So if Amorim has difficulty bringing United to win the Europa League trophy, then everyone must accept that United may not compete in the Europa League or Champions League next season.
Currently, United's position in the Europa League is quite safe, but in the next round who will know the results? The opponent will be stronger, if Amorim does not manage the current team well, then they could be eliminated at any time.
I think Amorim's hope is only to try his best in the Europa League. Nothing else.
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January 26, 2025, 10:33:25 AM
I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.
It will be even more complicated because it is impossible for Manchester United to get players according to Amorim's needs in the near future so this can affect the team's performance in the competition in the League. Even winning the Europa League is still quite difficult for Manchester United because the team's condition is not so consistent and they will get a much tougher challenge when facing much tougher opponents. Amorim's situation in changing the team to be stronger is not easy because they have to sell some of the existing players first and after that buy some of the players needed and the club's finances must also be adjusted first.
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January 26, 2025, 08:44:52 AM

Manchester United should try to focus on a competition that is more open to them to win the trophy this season, although they should not lose concentration in the current league to stay away from the relegation zone, the European league is one of the alternatives that is current still open to them to win the trophy or also a way to get one ticket for the champions league next season if they can win it, the competition in the European league is very tight at the moment but if they can focus and also maintain the consistency of their performance in the European league, then I think it is not impossible for them to win the European league trophy later.
Ten Hag always used the example of winning trophies, no matter how badly Manchester United had the season, but it was true, he achieved that goal. For Amorim there are not many opportunities to do that, obviously in the Premier League they will not do it, so they have the FA Cup and the Europa League. But I think Amorim now want to improve their game, to go into the new season with a completely different team.
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January 26, 2025, 08:41:35 AM
Since I don't see much change in performance, I think Manchester United will have to play in Europa League next season too.

I'm afraid getting a ticket to the Europa League next season will be quite difficult for United considering their performance in the Premier League. If Amorim wants to build his own squad, then we will see some players leave United first and some will be brought in. The situation is unlikely to happen in a short time. Amorim will do it gradually and adjust the club's finances. Maybe United will not easily burn their money like they have done in the past.
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January 26, 2025, 08:28:41 AM
I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.
Manchester United must still care about the remaining matches in the EPL because after all Manchester United must survive there without having to experience relegation even though it is quite difficult to be in a much better position because now Manchester United is still outside the top ten in the EPL standings. While in the UEL, the level of competition will also still be quite difficult over time especially when they are in the round of 16 to the quarter-finals because in rounds like that all teams will try to perform better.
Don't bother, more precisely, you have to focus on every match, be it EPL or UEL, especially now that the situation they are experiencing, Man United is in a lot of trouble and their players are not performing well at the moment and Amorin has to improve their quality because buying new players seems a bit hesitant because Man United's finances are not good, and I'm sure they can still progress to the top level because it can be seen from several big matches they will play in the future, it's just how consistent it is to implement it so as not to fall into degradation.

And I'm sure Man United still has good quality, that's why Man United is my favorite in UEL, I'm sure under Amorin they can develop, especially since the performance that Amorin implements to the players is extraordinary, he puts pressure on the players well, doesn't give them the opportunity to be lazy, so I'm sure they will be able to get through this phase well.

I don't know whether I should be happy or sad, but now one of their mainstay strikers has moved to Real Betis on a 6-month loan.

Antoni has been reported that he has now joined Real Betis, and even though many people are criticizing him, I hope he can perform well in La Liga. On the other hand, this is also a fairly concrete step to slightly ease the financial condition of Man United which is currently shaky, considering that Antoni is one of Man United's players with a fairly high salary.

And for now, we just have to wait for Casemiro's transfer to be completed, because if there is an agreement between Man United and Al Nassr, then Man United will get additional funds to be able to bring in new players.
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January 26, 2025, 08:15:50 AM
In my opinion, Man United was quite lucky in that victory because they got 1 own goal from their opponents and Man United only added 1 goal to determine their victory, if Rangers did not make a mistake, the match might have ended in a draw, honestly Man United is not a tough opponent in the UEL and I am not sure Man United will last long in the UEL competition because Man United is not yet fully consistent.

How Manchester United plays in the Europa league cannot be compared to how they play in the premier league. The performance they’ve put in all this while in the Europa league is not enough to say they’ll be the team that will have the more chances to prevail in the Europa League. Generally they are poor and I can’t say to what extent they can do this season in the Europa league. Most of the wins they got from this league was through the former coach and not the present one, so I won’t say they’re technically good to be the most dominant team in the league today. We have other big teams that are doing greatly than them, so I suppose they’ll have more chances of prevailing than them.
Considering the opponent Manchester United has faced so far in the European League or the opponent they will face in the upcoming matches, the opponents in the Premier League are tough. Since Premier League opponents are stronger than European League opponents, naturally Premier League performance and European League performance will not be the same for Manchester United. Manchester United has been performing well in the Europa League recently but when there was no change in manager, Manchester United's performance in the Europa League was very poor. According to the number of matches played by Manchester United in the Europa League, they have not achieved good points due to which they are still at the bottom of the points table. Since I don't see much change in performance, I think Manchester United will have to play in Europa League next season too.
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January 26, 2025, 05:32:38 AM
In my opinion, Man United was quite lucky in that victory because they got 1 own goal from their opponents and Man United only added 1 goal to determine their victory, if Rangers did not make a mistake, the match might have ended in a draw, honestly Man United is not a tough opponent in the UEL and I am not sure Man United will last long in the UEL competition because Man United is not yet fully consistent.

It wasn't an easy win for the Red Devils indeed!  Sad  They could have nearly got a draw if it weren't for Fernandes' winner. They still don't look convincing enough with their performance in general. They can't get comfortable wins.

Like I said before, I relate this to the squad quality. Amorim shouldn't be the scapegoat here. He has nothing else to do other than playing with the current squad he has in his hands. He couldn't rebuild the team yet.

This is why I don't think Manchester United will manage to win the Europa League title this season. How far can they go on like this I mean?  Huh  They will need to show much better effort when they face a serious threat in later stages.
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January 26, 2025, 05:08:58 AM
I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.
Manchester United must still care about the remaining matches in the EPL because after all Manchester United must survive there without having to experience relegation even though it is quite difficult to be in a much better position because now Manchester United is still outside the top ten in the EPL standings. While in the UEL, the level of competition will also still be quite difficult over time especially when they are in the round of 16 to the quarter-finals because in rounds like that all teams will try to perform better.
Their distance from the club that is in the relegation zone is 10 points. That seems a long distance, but make no mistake that it will be a very close distance if they dare to ignore the Premier League.
I don't think they will be so reckless as to ignore the Premier League for their achievements in the Europa League, because if they do then I can say they are very stupid.
If they want to be champions in the Europa League at the same time, then they have to put these 2 competitions on the same priority scale, that's the wisest thing to do.
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January 26, 2025, 04:13:52 AM
Manchester United should try to focus on a competition that is more open to them to win the trophy this season, although they should not lose concentration in the current league to stay away from the relegation zone, the European league is one of the alternatives that is current still open to them to win the trophy or also a way to get one ticket for the champions league next season if they can win it, the competition in the European league is very tight at the moment but if they can focus and also maintain the consistency of their performance in the European league, then I think it is not impossible for them to win the European league trophy later.

Definitely agree with you, Manchester United cannot at the moment qualify to the champions league using the traditional way of finishing in the top four, I don’t even think they will get to any European competition on this current form, they are 14 points behind the team in 6 position in the league and the league is in the second phase already. So for me the Europa league seems the easiest way for them to get into the competition and winning this competition could at least bring something to celebrate under Ruben Amorim.

The Europa league will not be having those who fall out of the champions league in the competition and that will mean less bigger clubs falling into the competition, as such Manchester United against this current teams in the Europa league now have the opportunity to compete and win it. If they can gear up their game I believe they can win the competition
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January 26, 2025, 04:03:29 AM
I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.
Manchester United must still care about the remaining matches in the EPL because after all Manchester United must survive there without having to experience relegation even though it is quite difficult to be in a much better position because now Manchester United is still outside the top ten in the EPL standings. While in the UEL, the level of competition will also still be quite difficult over time especially when they are in the round of 16 to the quarter-finals because in rounds like that all teams will try to perform better.
Don't bother, more precisely, you have to focus on every match, be it EPL or UEL, especially now that the situation they are experiencing, Man United is in a lot of trouble and their players are not performing well at the moment and Amorin has to improve their quality because buying new players seems a bit hesitant because Man United's finances are not good, and I'm sure they can still progress to the top level because it can be seen from several big matches they will play in the future, it's just how consistent it is to implement it so as not to fall into degradation.

And I'm sure Man United still has good quality, that's why Man United is my favorite in UEL, I'm sure under Amorin they can develop, especially since the performance that Amorin implements to the players is extraordinary, he puts pressure on the players well, doesn't give them the opportunity to be lazy, so I'm sure they will be able to get through this phase well.
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January 26, 2025, 03:32:41 AM
So true as football doesn't reward with fairness sometimes but reward only the clubs that takes their chance and this is why clubs aren't supposed to be missing the chances that they get when playing as with just one chance that their opponents takes, they can win the game. Roma can always win AZ Alkmaar but they didn't have luck on this day. Roma got two chances on target but couldn't covert any of them. Roma won't get the chance to play AZ Alkmaar again and that's one bad thing about this new format for the Europa league as before they would have gotten another opportunity to revenge their losses but not again instead, they'll play another club.
After losing to AZ, Roma is currently ranked 21st in the European league. I think with this, it can be confirmed that Roma will not be able to qualify for the round of 16 directly. Apart from that, if for example Roma loses or draws in the next match, I don't think Roma will have a big chance of qualifying for the round of 16. Because currently the teams ranked 22, 23 and 24 have the same points as Roma. So if, for example, Roma loses again in the next match, it is certain that Roma will not take part in the play-off round to get into the last 16. Therefore, Roma really has to fight very hard in the next match. Because this match is Roma's last chance to have hope of entering the round of 16. So basically Roma has to learn a lesson from their defeat yesterday against AZ. Don't let Roma have a performance like that again in the next match.

Because even in the match against AZ, Roma really controlled the match very well. But because their strikers were less able to make good use of the opportunities they created. So this opportunity failed to be converted into a goal. Maybe Roma should really improve their front line better. Because from what I see, this season Roma has quite serious problems on its front lines. Especially after Dobvyk's arrival, from then on Roma could really be said to be quite blunt on the front line. I don't know what the problem is, but what is clear is that Dobvyk has not been able to find his best performance again, like when he was still at Girona. For this reason, Roma must anticipate this problem as soon as possible, so that Roma can show their best performance in the upcoming match in the European league.
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January 26, 2025, 02:08:31 AM
I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.
Manchester United must still care about the remaining matches in the EPL because after all Manchester United must survive there without having to experience relegation even though it is quite difficult to be in a much better position because now Manchester United is still outside the top ten in the EPL standings. While in the UEL, the level of competition will also still be quite difficult over time especially when they are in the round of 16 to the quarter-finals because in rounds like that all teams will try to perform better.
Manchester United should try to focus on a competition that is more open to them to win the trophy this season, although they should not lose concentration in the current league to stay away from the relegation zone, the European league is one of the alternatives that is current still open to them to win the trophy or also a way to get one ticket for the champions league next season if they can win it, the competition in the European league is very tight at the moment but if they can focus and also maintain the consistency of their performance in the European league, then I think it is not impossible for them to win the European league trophy later.
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January 26, 2025, 01:56:51 AM
I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.
Manchester United must still care about the remaining matches in the EPL because after all Manchester United must survive there without having to experience relegation even though it is quite difficult to be in a much better position because now Manchester United is still outside the top ten in the EPL standings. While in the UEL, the level of competition will also still be quite difficult over time especially when they are in the round of 16 to the quarter-finals because in rounds like that all teams will try to perform better.
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January 25, 2025, 10:56:56 PM
If MU pursues the trophy in European league but forgets how to increase their rank in a premier league, that is an inappropriate step. It's so funny that they're champions of the European league but degrading in the championship. I think Amorim must be thought it if the competition is not only on European but Premier League also that they have to fight the same as they did in Europe. I don't know what he should be doing now, but for sure looking for new players for replace the current player is the right step at this time, don't be late because some players they are target also wanted by other clubs.
In Premier league Manchester United at 13th place so it's impossible for them to finish at top 4 or champion league spot so if Manchester United want to playing on that competition i think the realistic target is winning Europa league because we all know the winner can automatically gets one spot on Champion league for next season so starting from now probably Manchester United should be more focus in this competition because basically they have good position to qualify and i know it's not easy to gets the trophy but nothing is impossible
You are right, it will be difficult for Manchester United to enter the top 4 when the Premier League competition ends later because their current position is very unlikely and the only ticket to enter the UCL next season is to win the Europa League title even though there are also some strong team here that will be obstacles for Manchester United.
Although they have to focus on the Europa League, they also have to focus on other competitions such as the FA Cup and especially the Premier League because if they are negligent and make more mistakes then they could be very close to the relegation zone.
Furthermore, in the last Europa League match Manchester United must face FCSB and this is not an easy match because FCSB has fairly good performance, they must beat FCSB to make it easier in the future so that they do not need to go through the play-off round.
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January 25, 2025, 09:47:04 PM
But if they focus more on the Europa League, then it will also endanger their position in the Premier League, their position is not completely safe now. So if I can choose then I think the Premier League should be the main priority. Maybe if we talk about the opportunity to win the title, then the Europa League opens up a big opportunity for them, but as I said at the beginning it will also be risky for them if they focus too much on it. The best choice is that they have to do their best in the next match, both in the Premier League and in the Europa League. Their current position is very vulnerable, and it would be very funny if they managed to become champions in the Europa League, while in the Premier League they have to fight hard to get away from the relegation zone.
I also agree with you that Man United should not ignore the EPL even though they are very ambitious to be the best club in the UEL because after all the EPL is the most important competition because even if Man United wins the UEL title if Man United is relegated then they cannot appear in the EPL next season moreover with Man United's current condition I doubt they can win the UEL title because the competition is almost as tight as the UCL.
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January 25, 2025, 08:03:03 PM
Each team usually has a good plan to prioritize the title they will pursue. And maybe in the EPL Man United will not be too good but will be very strong in the UEL. It is all clear that we do not need to see or compare the performance of a team in one competition with another. Because all of that is clear that Man United also wants to restore its reputation which was previously considered a popular team but had poor performance. We all will never know if in the UEL MU could get the title and have a ticket to the UCL and in the EPL standings, Man United did not get the best position. So through the UEL, Man United can restore all the bad things the team has.
But if they focus more on the Europa League, then it will also endanger their position in the Premier League, their position is not completely safe now. So if I can choose then I think the Premier League should be the main priority. Maybe if we talk about the opportunity to win the title, then the Europa League opens up a big opportunity for them, but as I said at the beginning it will also be risky for them if they focus too much on it. The best choice is that they have to do their best in the next match, both in the Premier League and in the Europa League. Their current position is very vulnerable, and it would be very funny if they managed to become champions in the Europa League, while in the Premier League they have to fight hard to get away from the relegation zone.
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January 25, 2025, 06:50:20 PM
How Manchester United plays in the Europa league cannot be compared to how they play in the premier league. The performance they’ve put in all this while in the Europa league is not enough to say they’ll be the team that will have the more chances to prevail in the Europa League. Generally they are poor and I can’t say to what extent they can do this season in the Europa league. Most of the wins they got from this league was through the former coach and not the present one, so I won’t say they’re technically good to be the most dominant team in the league today. We have other big teams that are doing greatly than them, so I suppose they’ll have more chances of prevailing than them.
No doubts their results is an obvious evidence to this fact, and maybe it could be their contenders in the europa are way weaker than the contenders they get to face in the Premier League,  because usually that too could  be a factor to affect the productivity of a team, but for me I want to wait till the next round of the europa so I can ascertain if for sure they are better at the europa than they are in the Premier league as the next stage of the Europa is going to get a bit tougher than it is at this stage due to the teams they probably will be meeting at that stage.
Each team usually has a good plan to prioritize the title they will pursue. And maybe in the EPL Man United will not be too good but will be very strong in the UEL. It is all clear that we do not need to see or compare the performance of a team in one competition with another. Because all of that is clear that Man United also wants to restore its reputation which was previously considered a popular team but had poor performance. We all will never know if in the UEL MU could get the title and have a ticket to the UCL and in the EPL standings, Man United did not get the best position. So through the UEL, Man United can restore all the bad things the team has.
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January 25, 2025, 06:43:06 PM

They Roma bought players based on media statistics, even though Lukaku was quite good with them last season but their choice fell on Dovbyk even though this player often wastes opportunities and in the match against Az Alkamaar Dvbyk only had one shot the rest and he only had 4 touches in one half, this indicates that Dovbyk is a failed player who was bought by Roma at a high price, this defeat also makes it difficult for them to survive in the Europa League and I think they will be eliminated quickly no one can help Roma after the karma they did to Mourinho and also Lukaku. Their last match in the Europa League will face Frankfurt this is very difficult for them to qualify Frankfurt is a team that has developed well this season and Roma is a team that has high chaos I think this difficult situation they will face for quite a long time.
I don't see dovbyk as a failed player while he hasn't yest justified his price tag,that doesn't necessarily mean he is a failure. It's true that his performance against az alkmaar was not particularly encouraging as he failed to make an impact in the match , but he still have the potential to become one of Roma's standout players. He is new in the league and players often need time to adapt to a new team, league,and system. I think it's premature to write him off. As for claims that karma is affecting Roma due to their treatment of Jose Mourinho and Lukaku, these are all superstitions. Football is unpredictable and performances depend on several factors not superstition or supposed karma.

Roma's next match in the Europa League is against Frankfurt. It will be a challenging fixture for as Roma but I think Roma will be able to have a slight advantage since the match will be played at their home ground.
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January 25, 2025, 06:32:00 PM
In my opinion, Man United was quite lucky in that victory because they got 1 own goal from their opponents and Man United only added 1 goal to determine their victory, if Rangers did not make a mistake, the match might have ended in a draw, honestly Man United is not a tough opponent in the UEL and I am not sure Man United will last long in the UEL competition because Man United is not yet fully consistent.

How Manchester United plays in the Europa league cannot be compared to how they play in the premier league. The performance they’ve put in all this while in the Europa league is not enough to say they’ll be the team that will have the more chances to prevail in the Europa League. Generally they are poor and I can’t say to what extent they can do this season in the Europa league. Most of the wins they got from this league was through the former coach and not the present one, so I won’t say they’re technically good to be the most dominant team in the league today. We have other big teams that are doing greatly than them, so I suppose they’ll have more chances of prevailing than them.

Unfortunately, we cannot count on Manchester United this season too just like Manchester City or even worst..
In UEFA Europa League, they seem to be better with no defeat and 3 draws even though they are almost directly qualified.
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January 25, 2025, 04:40:08 PM
How Manchester United plays in the Europa league cannot be compared to how they play in the premier league. The performance they’ve put in all this while in the Europa league is not enough to say they’ll be the team that will have the more chances to prevail in the Europa League. Generally they are poor and I can’t say to what extent they can do this season in the Europa league. Most of the wins they got from this league was through the former coach and not the present one, so I won’t say they’re technically good to be the most dominant team in the league today. We have other big teams that are doing greatly than them, so I suppose they’ll have more chances of prevailing than them.
No doubts their results is an obvious evidence to this fact, and maybe it could be their contenders in the europa are way weaker than the contenders they get to face in the Premier League,  because usually that too could  be a factor to affect the productivity of a team, but for me I want to wait till the next round of the europa so I can ascertain if for sure they are better at the europa than they are in the Premier league as the next stage of the Europa is going to get a bit tougher than it is at this stage due to the teams they probably will be meeting at that stage.
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