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Quote from: Zlantann on November 09, 2024, 07:26:13 AM

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To be fair, United didn't even play any different formation or strategy or even players. Most of those players did played there and I believe most of the players are the same as well. This is why I believe the players are just playing better because they just like the manager better. I am still on belief that ETH talked about players badly, and that is why players played bad knowing that if they play bad, ETH would be fired and that's why they lost so many games.

United was never this bad, they were always good enough to win, they were good enough to be at a better place than this as well. I just believe that they ended up playing badly to get him fired. Not that ETH is a good manager, he sucks and part of the reason is he lost the locker room and that's why he got fired.

You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated. We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals. There have been cases where players agree to underperform to make the club sack a coach so I wouldn't doubt if this is the same strategy that the players adopted. The club refused to sack him when it was clear that his performance had dropped, rather they gave him a new contact. We might not know what went wrong in the locker until a player opens up.

There is a renewed hope amongst the players, some people say it’s the new manager bounce that’s working for Manchester United, but I feel Ruud van Nistelrooy understands the strengths and weakness of the players and is not afraid to bench players when they flop. I was surprised to see Amad Diallo scoring goals like it’s nothing, this is a player that wouldn’t see the light of day under Erik ten Hag. So don’t tell me the playing style of Ruud van Nistelrooy and Erik Ten Hag are the same, small things make the difference. ETH was sacked for a reason, it’s for the best that United stop the Erik Ten Hag comparison and look forward to a new era with Amorim.

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Quote from: tusandii on November 10, 2024, 11:38:21 PM

Actually, playing 4 matches is not enough to say that Man United's performance has fully improved, they need to prove it in many matches, but unfortunately Ruud only took over the club temporarily and maybe the match against Leicester City will be his last match, but so far he has given quite good results and we need to appreciate his hard work, hopefully when Man United is taken over by Ruben Amorim, this coach can be better than Erik Ten Hag and Ruud in the remaining matches this season, it is very important to hone the abilities of their squad.

I agree with you, that we can't quickly conclude now with several matches that have successfully become a positive ending for Manchester United, especially since they have not been held by a real coach who has made an agreement. The transition will definitely be there and we never know what the future will be like. But at least they are currently growing a great hope when they can achieve positive results with a good game. Van Nistelrooy is only a temporary coach and maybe he will be prepared to anticipate if the new coach cannot live up to expectations. I look forward to Manchester United's performance with their new coach.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 10, 2024, 01:28:39 AM

Quote from: Issa56 on November 09, 2024, 03:22:52 PM

Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.

There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.

Actually, playing 4 matches is not enough to say that Man United's performance has fully improved, they need to prove it in many matches, but unfortunately Ruud only took over the club temporarily and maybe the match against Leicester City will be his last match, but so far he has given quite good results and we need to appreciate his hard work, hopefully when Man United is taken over by Ruben Amorim, this coach can be better than Erik Ten Hag and Ruud in the remaining matches this season, it is very important to hone the abilities of their squad.

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Quote from: len01 on November 10, 2024, 11:43:50 AM

Maybe I would not be surprised if Ajax could appear impressive like this because in fact this team has always been experienced in the European league or even in the UCL also has experience. So in every match when playing against any team, Ajax always performs optimally trying to win the title in a more prestigious competition like in the current UEL. And currently Ajax still looks very consistent but we'll see in the next round whether Ajax is able to appear consistently like this.

Actually Ajax only suffered some sorts of set backs they didn't completely loose all their senses of been able to perform well so their was room for improvement as it was only a tactical and strategic service back, they had their depth and firm still intact so actually I wouldn't be overly surprised at the improvement I'm seeing with them recently and their level of Europa experience is such that cannot be undermined so they still know to a great extent their ways around the league . Their consistency is gradually building up even if they haven't gotten it right already but with time I believe they will do even better.

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Quote from: baeva on November 10, 2024, 04:54:07 PM

Yes, in the 4 matches they have had so far they have only conceded one straight and scored 13, they have very good realisation,. Their next match is against Real Sociedad, who have just beaten Barcelona, albeit with a minimal difference, but they were very strong, so I think this will be the first match for Ajax where they can meet serious resistance.

Ajax might win but it's sure going to be a tough test. Real Sociedad is a team that is hard to predict how well they will play. Like today, they played against a stunning Barcelona team amd won the game but played in that same stadium against Osasuna and they lost it. It might be the same for ajax but we'd have to just wait till that day. I'm personally not going going to be backing Sociedad on that day because they have been shit this season so far.

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Quote from: len01 on November 10, 2024, 11:43:50 AM

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Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2024, 08:32:33 AM

Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.

You are right I am one of those who are amazed by the performance that ajax gave in yesterday's match this big win will at least convince most people that the Dutch league representative can talk a lot in the uefa europa league competition this season or even they can go further if their consistency can be maintained well. It seems that ajax wants to focus more on this competition than the eredivisie.

Maybe I would not be surprised if Ajax could appear impressive like this because in fact this team has always been experienced in the European league or even in the UCL also has experience. So in every match when playing against any team, Ajax always performs optimally trying to win the title in a more prestigious competition like in the current UEL. And currently Ajax still looks very consistent but we'll see in the next round whether Ajax is able to appear consistently like this.

Yes, in the 4 matches they have had so far they have only conceded one straight and scored 13, they have very good realisation,. Their next match is against Real Sociedad, who have just beaten Barcelona, albeit with a minimal difference, but they were very strong, so I think this will be the first match for Ajax where they can meet serious resistance.

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Quote from: Issa56 on November 09, 2024, 03:22:52 PM

Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.

Nistelrooy may not has been able to bring Manchester United to be better at the moment, but at least we have now seen a change in the mentality and also the chances of Manchester United in winning since being handled by him, previously it was very difficult for Manchester United to achieve a draw, let alone win from the weak teams, but when they are currently able to be unbeaten in the last 4 matches including holding Chelsea to a draw and get first win in european league, isn't that an improvement?

Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 10, 2024, 01:28:39 AM

There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.

Nistelrooy was only an interim coach before Amorim arrived, but at least now he is starting to get Manchester United back on a positive path by relying on the same players that Ten Hag coached, with the same squad, his can achieving different results than Ten Hag which continues get bad results, so this shows that Nistelrooy strategy and game scheme are still more effective than ten hag, So I think currently Manchester United has managed to get rid of their main problem so far, namely Ten Hag..!

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Quote from: boltz on November 10, 2024, 11:49:52 AM

Man now I regret not buying a ticket to watch FCSB against Mijdyland because the stadium itself it's just 20 minutes away from me and I'm also a supporter of FCSB but my lazy mind decided to watch it on TV. Still happy with the performance and that epic 2nd goal they scored which went viral on all social media platforms ( scored by Birligia ) but also sad that I didn't go. However , I surely go and watch them against United in January as that is a game I simply cannot miss , a game that could secure top 8 for FCSB which will be really a big surprise consider how many big teams are in Europe League. Cool

I don't know about this team (FCSB), but it seems that FCSB is still in a good position so far and considering the results FCSB has so far, I think this team has a chance to be able to advance to the next round. Playing at home against Midtjylland with a clean sheets victory I think is quite impressive too, because based on the odds also at least Midtjylland is still quite a little favorite compared to FCSB. For the next match, FCSB will play at home against Olympiacos Piraeus and this should also be a difficult match for FCSB. Because after all, at least Olympiacos Piraeus also really needs three points because of its position which is still outside of the top eight.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 09, 2024, 11:14:09 PM

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However, the way they performed under their former manager, they have little chance of doing well in the Europa League. However, whoever takes over at Manchester United tomorrow will surely want to succeed in taking on the tough challenges of the Europa League. Supporters and management will be very happy if their team performance improves.

Sometimes it's not always what we expect, MU under interim coach Ruud van Nistelrooy was showed an increase in their performance, they have never lost in the last 3 matches. If Amorim takes Ruud's position on 11th November, the fans will compare the situation with the coach before. it's not impossible the fans want Ruud back to MU as coach if Amorim can't realize what they want. Yes, this is a complex situation for Amorim, he has to do homework to make MU the same as Ruud did, in the other hand, the fans want MU to be better than Ruud.

I don't what Amorim's strategy to make them happy, this is a difficult situation because he can't buy players before the Windows transfer opening, so in that situation, he only utilizes existing players.

Amorim is set to take charge of Manchester United from today. Since this manager is trusted, this manager should be given time to apply his strategy well. All the doors to buy and sell players are now closed so Manchester United fans will have to wait until the new season for anything good.

There is certainly reason to believe in Amorim, but he would not have been handed the Manchester United job if it weren't for his talent. Supporters will certainly talk about how successful Manchester United have been since Ten Hag left and before Amorim took over at United. If Manchester United continue to lose after Amorim takes over, there will be criticism, but even if he is criticised, he needs to be given time.

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Man now I regret not buying a ticket to watch FCSB against Mijdyland because the stadium itself it's just 20 minutes away from me and I'm also a supporter of FCSB but my lazy mind decided to watch it on TV. Still happy with the performance and that epic 2nd goal they scored which went viral on all social media platforms ( scored by Birligia ) but also sad that I didn't go. However , I surely go and watch them against United in January as that is a game I simply cannot miss , a game that could secure top 8 for FCSB which will be really a big surprise consider how many big teams are in Europe League. Cool

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Quote from: junder on November 09, 2024, 12:38:42 PM

Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2024, 08:32:33 AM

Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.

You are right I am one of those who are amazed by the performance that ajax gave in yesterday's match this big win will at least convince most people that the Dutch league representative can talk a lot in the uefa europa league competition this season or even they can go further if their consistency can be maintained well. It seems that ajax wants to focus more on this competition than the eredivisie.

Maybe I would not be surprised if Ajax could appear impressive like this because in fact this team has always been experienced in the European league or even in the UCL also has experience. So in every match when playing against any team, Ajax always performs optimally trying to win the title in a more prestigious competition like in the current UEL. And currently Ajax still looks very consistent but we'll see in the next round whether Ajax is able to appear consistently like this.

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Quote from: irhact on November 10, 2024, 07:50:51 AM

Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 10, 2024, 01:28:39 AM

There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.

They face Chelsea and didn't lose even though Chelsea are in top form so the agenda that it is only weak teams that Manchester United has face since the interim manager came in should stop. I was also thinking the same but after that didn't lose against Chelsea but played very well and even scored first. I now think that Manchester United are going to come back to form under the new manager coming to takeover soon. This means the Europa clubs should get ready and not underate Manchester United again as they're now with a new manager and all players will begin to play well to impress the manager and become a regular for him to start.

I can't say that they are in their best form yet, keep in mind they have just gone through a few matches after firing the coach and they did that with a temporary coach, and now they are also not handled by their new coach. Manchester United just won in the Premier League by beating Leicester with a score of 3-0. This is a very good result that they managed to achieve. I hope this is not just temporary, or in other words after their new coach comes, they will continue the positive results in the last few matches they have played. There is hope, they get a breath of fresh air at this time.

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Quote from: junder on November 09, 2024, 12:38:42 PM

You are right I am one of those who are amazed by the performance that ajax gave in yesterday's match this big win will at least convince most people that the Dutch league representative can talk a lot in the uefa europa league competition this season or even they can go further if their consistency can be maintained well. It seems that ajax wants to focus more on this competition than the eredivisie.

In the Eredivisie Ajax is also still in a better position and it is even possible to win first place this season even though Ajax must also focus more on the Europa League this season. Winning with a big score at home is a very pleasant thing for Ajax because they can slaughter their opponents without reply and that has become proof that Ajax is a team that is still very good this season.

Ajax performance is back as they did in every game with their goals unlike last season they conceded a lot and now it seems they have found their new rhythm, 4 Europa League matches currently they have scored 10 goals and only conceded 1 of the 4 matches they have played, currently they are also in 2nd position in Europe I think Ajax will shine again with their new aura.

Although many were lost at Ajax a few seasons ago but Klaassen is still an important player for Ajax even though he is no longer young but he is always the key to Ajax's game hopefully they will return to where they should be.

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 10, 2024, 01:28:39 AM

There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.

They face Chelsea and didn't lose even though Chelsea are in top form so the agenda that it is only weak teams that Manchester United has face since the interim manager came in should stop. I was also thinking the same but after that didn't lose against Chelsea but played very well and even scored first. I now think that Manchester United are going to come back to form under the new manager coming to takeover soon. This means the Europa clubs should get ready and not underate Manchester United again as they're now with a new manager and all players will begin to play well to impress the manager and become a regular for him to start.

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Quote from: junder on November 09, 2024, 12:38:42 PM

You are right I am one of those who are amazed by the performance that ajax gave in yesterday's match this big win will at least convince most people that the Dutch league representative can talk a lot in the uefa europa league competition this season or even they can go further if their consistency can be maintained well. It seems that ajax wants to focus more on this competition than the eredivisie.

In the Eredivisie Ajax is also still in a better position and it is even possible to win first place this season even though Ajax must also focus more on the Europa League this season. Winning with a big score at home is a very pleasant thing for Ajax because they can slaughter their opponents without reply and that has become proof that Ajax is a team that is still very good this season.

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In addition, the inclusion of Solanke was actually too late in my opinion

Ange Postecoglou preferred to rest some of his players. Because Tottenham won all of their 3 Europa League games before playing against Galatasaray. I respect this decision because Tottenham already has many injured players.

Winning all of their first three games in the UEFA Europa League competition this season I don't think is enough reason for Ange Postecoglou to bench his most important players when his team is facing a strong team like Galatasaray who are very much capable of defeating any team in the competition. That tactical approach to rest his big players and still expect good result didn't work out as planned by the Tottenham manager but I want to believe that his main reason of doing that was to save his players from getting injured. That being said, I think Tottenham stands a very good chance of progressing to the next round of the competition but I suggest they take this UEL competition this season very serious in other to reach the final or probably win it at the end of the season

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Quote from: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on November 10, 2024, 01:28:39 AM

Quote from: Issa56 on November 09, 2024, 03:22:52 PM

Manchester United have been able to win some matches after Ten Hag got sacked, but the only strong team that they played against and they played a draw was against Chelsea. Other clubs that they played against are not really strong teams, so I won’t really say there is improvement in their performance yet.

There is a much better hope for Manchester United in the future and although their main coach has not worked but three previous results have provided an increase. We always look for a reason that they face a much weaker team so that the victory that is obtained does not mean but have we ever seen how when Ten Hak are still the Manchester United coach and he is not even able to face a weak team to get a victory. The increase in Manchester United has been seen better than before and I disagree with the assessment because when viewed the ability of Manchester United's game is also increasing now.

Ruud van Nistelrooy deserves credit, he's done a great job. I mean, he's kept Manchester United from going further down the pecking order, which is not an easy job, and I think that's enough even though many people don't see it as an improvement. Meanwhile, everyone is quite curious about Ruben Amorim, his arrival is expected to have an instant impact on The Red Devils. In the next few hours, the former Sporting CP manager will take over the Manchester United dressing room.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 10, 2024, 04:51:51 AM

Quote from: Zlantann on November 09, 2024, 07:26:13 AM

You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated. We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals. There have been cases where players agree to underperform to make the club sack a coach so I wouldn't doubt if this is the same strategy that the players adopted. The club refused to sack him when it was clear that his performance had dropped, rather they gave him a new contact. We might not know what went wrong in the locker until a player opens up.

Should players with this mindset remain in the biggest premier league club? I say it daily, most of these lads in this squad will never make it to Sir Alex Ferguson's team and not even Pep Guardiola's team. They have thrown three to four managers under the bus and they still remain inside the club. Players with high payrolls and this is how they payback the club? Completely traumatized whenever I watch these lads play. I'm currently not expecting nothing from the new manager if most of these british players mentally poor are still with him.

A conspiracy that often appears in social media discussions that I often see. But I personally am quite skeptical about it, because do the players really do this kind of thing because they don't like the coach? I choose not to think in that direction, because I have seen many players fail but they can perform better when a new coach handles them, I prefer to see this as something natural. Because there are many factors that will influence this kind of thing, it could be because the coach's strategy is not understood by the players, or the coach himself does not understand the character of each player they have. But on the other hand I also enjoy this conspiracy and make it an entertainment. Grin

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Quote from: Zlantann on November 09, 2024, 07:26:13 AM

You have a point mate. I am also surprised that the same players and almost the same playing style are bringing good results now. This shows that the players don't like Erik Ten Hag or they are not well motivated. We saw a Manchester United team that has improved and is hungry for goals. There have been cases where players agree to underperform to make the club sack a coach so I wouldn't doubt if this is the same strategy that the players adopted. The club refused to sack him when it was clear that his performance had dropped, rather they gave him a new contact. We might not know what went wrong in the locker until a player opens up.

Should players with this mindset remain in the biggest premier league club? I say it daily, most of these lads in this squad will never make it to Sir Alex Ferguson's team and not even Pep Guardiola's team. They have thrown three to four managers under the bus and they still remain inside the club. Players with high payrolls and this is how they payback the club? Completely traumatized whenever I watch these lads play. I'm currently not expecting nothing from the new manager if most of these british players mentally poor are still with him.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 09, 2024, 08:32:33 AM

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At first I didn't expect Ajax to get win like this because even though I believe Ajax can play well, their chances of winning are still not that big, but they managed to do it and made everyone happy to see them beat Maccabi.
Most surprising thing for me is their good performance in the Europa League and now they are in second place in 4 match showing 3 win with 1 draw, yesterday big win 5 - 0 from Maccabi was quite fun game to watch.

Literally Ajax went beyond the expectations of many in this game in that they had to win without conceding a goal with such an epic scorelines which they haven't had since this season in their Europa games. Ajax is doing so well position wise and their chances of winning the title may just be increasing if they can consistently get more of this, that have not had as much poor performance in the Europa as they have done in their domestic league this season and so I'm beginning to build some confidence in them that they will be able to get a good leverage in the Europa gis season.

Ajax's performance in the Europa League is quite good so far, they have not experienced defeat and have only found 1 draw from the 4 matches they have played, even the productivity of goals created by Ajax is more than the club at the top of the standings at the moment, so it can be concluded that Ajax's defense is quite good so far, even in their last match they were able to won by a landslide by creating clean sheet, this is good news for the Eredivisi representative team because one of them will be a strong competitor in the Europa League this season.

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