UEFA Europa League 2024/25 Season - page 57.

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Quote from: len01 on October 04, 2024, 07:09:49 AM

What you said is very true, and I was just too selfish with my skeptical thoughts about Man United's performance in the EPL. And I should have bet on the over or under in the MU and Roma match.

But at least out of the 10 matches I had, I still got 7 profitable wins and 3 losses.

It was a prediction out of my gut feeling and one born out of how badly Manchester United had performed in their previous games, they ought to be getting some wins and the Europa is a perfect league for them to prove their worth. Though Porto is good and you can relate by how they quickly came from behind to bring the game to Manchester United, with Samu being an unstoppable force for Manchester United’s backline De light and Dalot, Manchester United had some force in their forward to force a draw out of Porto and they eventually did. 3 odds on them was just a way for the bookies to throw gamblers off balance but, it wasn’t the game that ruined me though, AS Roma couldn’t make out a win.

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on October 04, 2024, 05:06:18 AM

That picture was telling us if Ten Hag would say, "They played badly all season. But, they still won a trophy."

It sounds like another excuse from Ten Hag. And even he can't guarantee his team is going to win another trophy this season. He looks so stubborn.

Ten Hag is always using the trophies he won in his two seasons in charge of Manchester United as excuse, he is always bringing it up to save his job because it is a good achievement per say, but for team like Manchester United, the excuse should not be acceptable because he is yet to show any quality as a manager, and his European games are always not good. He played 10 European games and won just one which is embarrassing for a team with higher standards like Manchester United. Nevertheless, if the managements wants to give him more time, it is fine and understandable, but I am very sure Manchester United fans are angry and didn’t trust this guy’s process anymore.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on October 04, 2024, 08:46:16 AM

Maybe he was emotional because at that time they were behind Porto so when there was an opportunity it became disastrous because the foot was too high then obviously this endangered the opponent the second card yellow card was still appropriate for him, but for some reason he always protests which is not clear.

Imagine two matches in the EPL and UEL he got a red card, meaning it can be said to play in an arrogant manner.
As a captain he should not do that especially in situations where his team is under pressure and behind a goal.

It is clear that Bruno is frustrated because his team cannot develop the game so he plays so roughly because his emotions are no longer under control, the red card he received is very reasonable because he played quite roughly in this match.

This is clearly very detrimental to the Manchester United team, it is true that Bruno did something detrimental to the team in two consecutive matches and it is clear that he is very emotional, even though he is the team captain but his behavior is very bad, it causes all Manchester United players to be frustrated because of their captain's actions.

Manchester United's draw is very unfortunate, even though they were 2 goals ahead but they had to fall behind until finally there was a goal at the end of the match to save them from a humiliating defeat.

Manchester United's performance is really very bad now, there is nothing to judge from the Manchester United team, since the beginning of the season they have been in a slump.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on October 04, 2024, 08:46:16 AM

Maybe he was emotional because at that time they were behind Porto so when there was an opportunity it became disastrous because the foot was too high then obviously this endangered the opponent the second card yellow card was still appropriate for him, but for some reason he always protests which is not clear.

Imagine two matches in the EPL and UEL he got a red card, meaning it can be said to play in an arrogant manner.
As a captain he should not do that especially in situations where his team is under pressure and behind a goal.

I don't explain it for Bruno and as a captain, he needs to avoid these over emotional behaviors because if he wants best results for his team, he never wants to put his team win situation of 10 players vs 11 players of the opponent.

In another explanation, I believe that Bruno himself is stressful too and it seems too much pressure on his shoulder as a captain of Manchester United. He failed to control himself partially because of too much pressure and expectation on his performance and leadership as their captain. Manchester United and Ten Hag actually must do many things to reduce pressure on Bruno and help him to rebalance for playing better.

They have to do this because Manchester United need a best Bruno in psychology and performance, not a captain like this.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 04, 2024, 03:43:59 AM

The match between Manchester United and Porto was indeed very dramatic, the exchange of goals occurred in the match since the first half of the match began, playing at home, in fact Porto was surprised by Rashford quick goal in the 7th minute and Manchester who were 1 goal ahead continued to increase their attack to secure the victory, but unfortunately it was Manchester United's defense again that became a problem that caused them to fail to get full points in the match, De Ligt and Martinez I think was the reason Manchester failed to get 3 points because of their inability to guard the defense which made Porto manage to end the game with a score of 3-3.
Maybe Manchester United will try to appeal, but it looks like they won't succeed in overturning the punishment received by Bruno Fernandes,Because indeed he deserves a second yellow card in the match after raising his legs too high and potentially endangering the opponent.

Here, everything is already quite obvious. Dangerous play. It is not a sin to give a yellow card for this. The referee did everything right here. A completely justified gesture. You can’t play like that on the field. Bruno Fernandes behaved strangely in this situation, having such a great experience of the game. Apparently, something is affecting him. What could it be? Perhaps some personal problems?

Maybe he was emotional because at that time they were behind Porto so when there was an opportunity it became disastrous because the foot was too high then obviously this endangered the opponent the second card yellow card was still appropriate for him, but for some reason he always protests which is not clear.

Imagine two matches in the EPL and UEL he got a red card, meaning it can be said to play in an arrogant manner.
As a captain he should not do that especially in situations where his team is under pressure and behind a goal.

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Quote from: ajanwalker on October 03, 2024, 02:16:32 PM

Before the match, Galatasaray coach Okan Buruk said: The field is beautiful, the air temperature is good, and we went to the field as a team with our main squad, but Galatasaray could not manage to beat Rigas.
They took a 0-2 lead in the match, but 2 minutes after scoring the second goal, they conceded a goal and the first half ended 1-2.
Rigas started the second half well again and made the score 2-2 in the 54th minute. My Rigas returned a ball to the post. If a goal had been scored in that position, Galatasaray would have been defeated away. With this draw, Galatasaray increased its points to 4 in the league.
Muslera was still suspended and Günay guarded the goal again.
Muslera has a one-match suspension remaining.

In the last two games, Galatasaray have conceded a handicap lead and they was a draw. Galatasaray is a team that gets demoralized quickly after conceding a goal and as a result the team is unable to react. I think this is due to a lack of technical work outside the master plan. Galatasaray are not able to stay in the game. The reason for this is the short average height of the team.

When Galatasaray can't get any results from the pressure, they don't have a second plan. In all the games when they were ahead, they faced the same problems and the team couldn't keep the ball. They are still in the early stages and such mistakes can be compensated for. However, if Okan Buruk doesn't change the system, he might not see the second half of the season.

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Quote from: davis196 on October 04, 2024, 01:49:51 AM

The only surprising thing about Manchester United's performance against Porto was Marcus Rashford. He scored a goal and assisted for Rasmus Hojlund's goal. Rashford's goal was quite impressive. He is a talented player and I hope that he finds motivation to lead United to more victories in the future. United as usual was horrible in defense and chaotic in the middle. The new owner of United has incredible patience when it comes to Ten Hag. The players of Porto should feel regrets about the wasted victory, but their defensive play was also very bad.

If Maguire hadn't scored a goal in extra time, Manchester United would have surely lost this match. I watched the first half of this match between Manchester United vs Porto where both teams managed to score two goals against each other. I left this game annoyed with Manchester United because even though Manchester United scored goals, they didn't do well in defense and they couldn't resist some of Porto's simple attacks. The team against which Manchester United played the last European League match is not a strong team at all.
Still, as hard as Manchester United had to work to get a point against this team, it goes without saying that if there was a stronger team in their place, they would have been beaten by a much larger margin.

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Quote from: Marvell1 on October 04, 2024, 07:12:08 AM

Yesterday I was very disappointed with the overall performance of the Roma team. Roma team shared the points with Athletic Club in the first match of the Europa League. It was Roma's home match. But the match was completely dominated by Athletic Club. Even then Roma managed to get 1 point from this match.

But Roma's defeat against IF Elfsborg was a completely unexpected result. Because we know the Elfsborg team well. Not even this is the first time I've heard the name Elfsborg. Roma lost against such a team. It is true that Roma played well throughout the match. But it was Roma's failure to break down Elfsborg's defence. I wouldn't call it bad luck. Roma's players should have performed better. Roma's attacking players in particular also missed a lot of easy chances. Roma will not be able to do much better in the Europa League this season.

Elfsborg was a Swedish club. They also rarely played in European competition as well.

On other hand, i don't even think Roma played well in this game. They had no poise and character. They wasted so many chances. They dominated possession. But their opponent let them have it. They are playing without a tactical plan. They did 20 crosses that went nowhere.

I hope Roma is out of the competition If they keep playing at this rate, they clearly don't want to be here. They were not serious in their performance.

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Quote from: Obim34 on October 04, 2024, 06:30:22 AM

Ten Hag and the players are not having it this time, I see no sign of improvement, moving from worst to worst on different leagues. Knocking Chelsea off from qualifying for the Europa league is of no importance because even with their last minute qualification they have been unable to put out a good performance.

I don't think the coach will last for another season with this level of results the team is getting in this crucial phases of the competition, even Bruno might end up not being part of the squad by then.

At first I thought Manchester was certain to win after they scored two quick goals in the first half, I thought Erik Ten Hag's team was starting to rise again. But it turned out that Porto was able to turn things around and become superior to United. It was quite surprising, I thought it wouldn't be like this. It was made worse by Bruno getting a red card. Fortunately, United were able to equalize to 3-3. A terrible situation for United, I think Ten Hag should re-evaluate his team. Especially when he made the decision to pull Rashford, 4 minutes later Porto were able to turn the situation around with an advantage for them. For me, statistically United didn't play that badly, they had a lot of chances. But based on individual players, it seems like it will be a job for the coach. A draw is not too bad than losing in this match, besides Porto is not a weak team. Even though I'm not a supporter of The Red Devil, I hope Ten Hag finds a formula to bring his team back on track.

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Quote from: mammusu on October 04, 2024, 03:43:59 AM

The match between Manchester United and Porto was indeed very dramatic, the exchange of goals occurred in the match since the first half of the match began, playing at home, in fact Porto was surprised by Rashford quick goal in the 7th minute and Manchester who were 1 goal ahead continued to increase their attack to secure the victory, but unfortunately it was Manchester United's defense again that became a problem that caused them to fail to get full points in the match, De Ligt and Martinez I think was the reason Manchester failed to get 3 points because of their inability to guard the defense which made Porto manage to end the game with a score of 3-3.
Maybe Manchester United will try to appeal, but it looks like they won't succeed in overturning the punishment received by Bruno Fernandes,Because indeed he deserves a second yellow card in the match after raising his legs too high and potentially endangering the opponent.

Here, everything is already quite obvious. Dangerous play. It is not a sin to give a yellow card for this. The referee did everything right here. A completely justified gesture. You can’t play like that on the field. Bruno Fernandes behaved strangely in this situation, having such a great experience of the game. Apparently, something is affecting him. What could it be? Perhaps some personal problems?

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 03, 2024, 05:41:35 PM

Ten Hag's comments are a separate type of comedy.
It is unlikely that anyone reads his statements for any purpose other than to laugh.
Meanwhile, United have won just once in their last eight European games. The fact that Ten Hag has not yet been sacked in the face of such results is some kind of inexplicable mystery.

I completely agree with you, Ten Hag statement always contains comedy in it, and for now it is hard to believe. Even many assume, Ten Hag will not make it to the end of the season, where a series of bad results make his position very threatened by dismissal, although it is still full of mystery. His decision to rotate players raises various questions, why he never learns from his mistakes. Rashford who looked quite good in the first half, was rotated in the second half by Garnacho. A decision that I think is very wrong, but Ten Hag always has a reason to deny his mistake.
The ups and downs of performance that Manchester United continues to experience, seem to make it difficult for them to realize their ambitions, The Red Devils actually have a great chance of winning the Europa League trophy this season.
In the next match, in the Europa League and Premier League, Ten Hag is certain to lose Bruno Fernandes because he got a red card, that is a big loss. It is very difficult to explain the current situation of The Red Devils, luck seems to always be reluctant to side with them. Meanwhile, fans should thank their former captain Maguire, who saved Manchester United from defeat today.

You will be surprised, but Fernandes won the appeal so his red is overturned (in the Premier League) and he will play the next games, but I don’t think it will help United much. Aston Villa are serious opponents and United will be lucky to get at least a draw.
By the way, I was wrong - United has one win not in 8 games in European competitions, but in 10. And this is a win against Copenhagen.
At the same time, Ten Hag suggests waiting until the end of the season Grin

And also - yes, United have a good chance of winning the Europa League, but everyone understands that this will not be the same Europa League as in previous years, since the composition of participants this year is an order of magnitude weaker (since there will be no addition of teams from the Champions League).

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Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

Bruno's red card was due to his own mistake, he couldn't control his emotions and that had happened in 2 Manchester United matches so Ten Hag had to give a warning to Bruno not to harm the team.
Manchester United played very badly in this match, and they were lucky there was an equalizer in the last minutes to make the match end in a draw otherwise they would have lost very embarrassingly again because they were already 2 goals ahead.

I highlight Manchester United's overall performance, they who had been 2 goals ahead could not maintain the rhythm of the game, I think this is a team that does not have clear tactics and if this continues to happen then there is no good possibility for Manchester United in the next match.

I think Bruno Fernandes definitely has some beef with Ten Hag, because it's really weird for the captain to get 2 red cards in a row. You can see that Ten Hag trusts him, if he puts him in the lineup for the game against Porto, even after the suspension in the last EPL match, but Bruno himself is not in the best shape and in fact for the second time breaks the game of Manchester United.
I would not call the match with Porto a failure for Manchester United, if only because at the end of the game they still managed to equalize the score playing in the minority and won one more point, which in any case than a loss and 0 points. It was good that Harry Maguire came on at the end of the game and scored an important goal for Manchester United and Ten Hag personally, because I think the defeat against Porto could be the last game for Ten Hag as the head coach of Manchester United.

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Yesterday I was very disappointed with the overall performance of the Roma team. Roma team shared the points with Athletic Club in the first match of the Europa League. It was Roma's home match. But the match was completely dominated by Athletic Club. Even then Roma managed to get 1 point from this match.

But Roma's defeat against IF Elfsborg was a completely unexpected result. Because we know the Elfsborg team well. Not even this is the first time I've heard the name Elfsborg. Roma lost against such a team. It is true that Roma played well throughout the match. But it was Roma's failure to break down Elfsborg's defence. I wouldn't call it bad luck. Roma's players should have performed better. Roma's attacking players in particular also missed a lot of easy chances. Roma will not be able to do much better in the Europa League this season.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on October 03, 2024, 11:35:16 AM

I know Manchester United to have not had the best of the season thus far but, do we really think they wouldn’t do great in the Europa too? I’m not seeing that when they play against FC Porto tonight. I think they would challenge themselves in this round and make that 3 odds given against them by book markers count towards those who would have the courage enough to bet on them. I the most that could come out of this is a draw else, Manchester United wins this one.

Spurs would win and it’s going to be right from the first half, Roma wins and Bilbao. That’ll be my prediction.

What you said is very true, and I was just too selfish with my skeptical thoughts about Man United's performance in the EPL. And I should have bet on the over or under in the MU and Roma match.

But at least out of the 10 matches I had, I still got 7 profitable wins and 3 losses.

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Manchester United vs Porto was the most exciting match, it started from Manchester United leading two goals, Porto make a comeback for scoring 3 goals and in the injury time, Manchester United managed to equalize the score.

Bruno once again try a risky move and he received red card in this match, will Manchester United appeal the red card again just like they did in the previous match against Tottenham?

Bruno should be benched, unfortunately there are no players that play as good as him right now.

Wow, the match was really exciting, how could Man United who were already two goals ahead concede three goals, luckily Harry Maguire was able to score a goal in injury time, saving Man United from defeat. Regarding Bruno's red card, I think it's fair because it was clearly a violation and the referee didn't immediately issue a red card, only gave a yellow card, so because Bruno had previously received a yellow card, it's fair to get a red card. I don't agree if Bruno is benched because he is one of the key players in the Man United squad and he is also the team captain.

Ten Hag and the players are not having it this time, I see no sign of improvement, moving from worst to worst on different leagues. Knocking Chelsea off from qualifying for the Europa league is of no importance because even with their last minute qualification they have been unable to put out a good performance.

I don't think the coach will last for another season with this level of results the team is getting in this crucial phases of the competition, even Bruno might end up not being part of the squad by then.

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Quote from: wakier on October 04, 2024, 05:56:00 AM

Last season Man United might have won the FA Cup but it was not a prestigious trophy and what the fans need now is for Man United to return to their best and win one of the prestigious titles.
However I think it is unlikely for Man United to win a trophy this season their performance in the UEL and EPL is also not that good I am not sure Man United can compete in the title race I think Erik Ten Hag will be sacked soon.

Soon Erik ten Hag will sack from his position after Manchester United get failure securing three points on second match in UEFA Europe League faced FC Porto, I doubt with Manchester United opportunity qualify to knock out round or not behind six matches left only have one points and difficult reach the top eight position standings are directly qualifying to 16 of round.
Looking the matches schedule left on UEFA Europe League, Manchester United will face many top teams and I doubt with opportunity will get directly qualify to knock out round and have possibility with playoff round qualifying by standings until 24th position place.

In this season seems very difficult for Manchester United get secure any trophy after last season success winning FA Cup, can't guarantee with any tittle behind poor performance not only in Europe League but also Manchester United dropped to 13th standings place in Premier League until games week 6.

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Last season Man United might have won the FA Cup but it was not a prestigious trophy and what the fans need now is for Man United to return to their best and win one of the prestigious titles.
However I think it is unlikely for Man United to win a trophy this season their performance in the UEL and EPL is also not that good I am not sure Man United can compete in the title race I think Erik Ten Hag will be sacked soon.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 04, 2024, 04:36:10 AM

I usually don't bet on the 1st Goal market in any match. But in the Union Saint-Gilloise vs Bodo/Glimt match in the Europa League last night I tried my luck to bet on that market. The odds given by the bookmaker were 15.00 for none. Honestly, I just bet on that market because usually if I'm not so sure about the winning result, I will bet on a draw or BTTS.

I followed the match, there were many opportunities for both teams, especially for the home team. But the problem of accuracy in finishing seems to be a job that must be completed for both teams in the next match.

You placed a bet but your bet had no weight because you didn't know the teams due to which the match ended in a draw. Because no goal was scored by any of the players due to which no good effort was seen in the match. It is better not to bet too much because sometimes the match team loses the match due to not scoring 1 goal. One or the other team will definitely advance for the next matches because one or the other player will definitely work hard to play well and will not let his hard work go in vain during the match. I bet mostly by looking at the history of complex matches. Because it shows how strong the team is and how it will perform in the match.

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Quote from: Richbased on October 03, 2024, 01:46:51 PM

Yeah you got it right and that was a convenient option you choose there because in Galatasaray's previous games there were lot of goals so it was a safe option for you but for people who staked them to win RFS it will be a disappointment for them because they are playing 2:2 currently and it doesn't look like they can win the match again because they had early advantage of scoring 2 goals ahead of RFS but they became so reluctant and the 2 goals were equalized and the match has just ended in 2:2 draw, i never expected Galatasaray to draw this game considering the fact that they also played a 3:3 draw against Kasimpasa in their domestic league match during last weekend.

Unfortunately Galatasaray couldn't score another goal. Sad

It was really unbelievable. But more surprising thing was that they even let RFS equalize and steal a point. I mean how can you make yourself embarrassed in such an easy game? The fans started to criticize Okan Buruk even more after this result. Because losing big advantages in last two games must have made them really angry.

Frankfurt won as expected but Beşiktaş could have levelled the game actually if they played the early part better. Porto were also nearly winning if it weren't for Maguire's last minute save.

Anyways, it was a nice try. Grin

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Quote from: ingiltere on October 04, 2024, 04:10:01 AM

Yesterday's match was very unlucky for Beşiktaş. Getting into so many scoring positions and not being able to put the ball in the net stressed everyone out. Eintracht Frankfurt's second goalkeeper played the best game of his life. A missed penalty, a ball off the post, blocked shots and shots saved by the goalkeeper meant that Beşiktaş could have scored 5-6 goals but ended the match with only one goal. Still, if we look at the positives, unlike the Ajax match, Beşiktaş played much better. There was a team that had the ball and could play a good passing game, the only problem was finishing. If we solve this, we can advance to next rounds in this league.

It was unfortunate for Besiktas that they could not win this match. At the same time I would say that Besiktas' weakness in attack is also well realized from this match. It was Besiktas' home match. And from the beginning of the match, Besiktas players tried hard to score. But the team could not score a single goal in 90 minutes. Besiktas scored their only goal after 90 minutes.

Frankfurt was tactical in this match. Although not as prolific as Besiktas, Frankfurt's every attack was powerful. Also, since Besiktas played completely attacking, Frankfurt's players had the opportunity to counter-attack.

Besiktas were a bit unlucky in this match. Besiktar got a chance to score from the penalty in the first half. But Immobile missed the opportunity. However, another reason for Besiktas' defeat in this match is that Frankfurt's goalkeeper Santos performed well. Santos made 10 saves in this match. Immobile's penalty is saved by Santos.

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