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December 27, 2024, 01:14:48 PM
So far so good for us, Galatasaray.  Smiley  However there is a threat of losing Osimhen in January according to speculations. I have heard Manchester United - Juventus clubs being interested to buy out his release clause to sign him early.

If this happens it is going to be a huge hit to our attacking area. Because Icardi is out for the whole season also because of a serious injury.  Sad  In this case I hope the club doesn't sleep and bring someone reliable to replace Osimhen.

One can say there is Batshuayi too. Yeah, but he isn't reliable when he is a starter rather than entering in the 2nd half. We need to keep our squad strong if we want success in the Europa League. We should bring some new defenders as a priority also due to conceding too many goals.
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December 27, 2024, 12:57:38 PM
The European League does look more competitive and there are always clubs that provide surprises in this competition and if we look at the list of champions of each competition, the Champions League is indeed dominated by big clubs while the European League that has won the most awards is not a club that can be said to have a big name (Sevilla) but last season unfortunately this club did not go down to the European League after failing in the UCL group stage and this season it also did not participate, it can be said that it is a representative club of La Liga that dominates the UEL even though when appearing in the domestic league it looks ordinary.

The Europa league wasn't made for big clubs therefore I don't expect the big clubs to win it. The Europa league was made for clubs that couldn't get into the champions league where the big clubs are playing. Sevilla are top winners but they can't compete with the big clubs in the champions league, Sevilla are like the Real Madrid for the champions league as regardless of how bad they can be playing, it's almost a guarantee that Real Madrid are going to win the champions league and the same with Sevilla for the Europa league. The league mightn't look very competitive this season but you can't pick out one club to be the potential winner still.
Yes, the Europa League is for clubs that cannot get the best place in the League and they will be in the Europa League, but I don't really agree if I have to say that the Europa League is not for big clubs, it's just that maybe big clubs that are used to being in the Champions League don't feel more challenged when they have to be in the Europa League compared to the Champions League. This is a fact that occurs, although many big clubs end up being thrown into the Europa League, but the ones who become champions in the end are "ordinary" clubs.
I think the reason why those big clubs are being thrown to Europa is due to their weakness and inconsistencies during the season. That doesn't mean that they will do well in Europa because they are still not strong enough to win the league. This is why the regular Europa clubs will always do better than those big clubs that couldn't secure a space in UCL. There's no big club in Europa.
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December 27, 2024, 12:33:58 PM
Yes, the Europa League is for clubs that cannot get the best place in the League and they will be in the Europa League, but I don't really agree if I have to say that the Europa League is not for big clubs, it's just that maybe big clubs that are used to being in the Champions League don't feel more challenged when they have to be in the Europa League compared to the Champions League. This is a fact that occurs, although many big clubs end up being thrown into the Europa League, but the ones who become champions in the end are "ordinary" clubs.
However, the European league is still one of the tight competitions with tough competition. Even top teams that often compete in the UCL, are not necessarily able to win the title in the European league. But I make this assumption for top teams that are experiencing a decline in performance with such serious problems.
On the one hand, when a popular team like Sevilla can be in the European league every season, surely this team always has a great chance of winning the title even though there are other top teams but Sevilla is always the mainstay.
And now Sevilla is having bad luck not being able to compete here. So it is likely that other popular teams will replace the title this season and I hope Lazio or Spurs can get that result.
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December 27, 2024, 12:02:04 PM
The Europa League competition may be seen as a competition that is not meant for clubs but some times we have seen some top clubs in Europe playing in the Europa League competition when they fail to qualify in the champions League as a result of not finishing among the 1st four teams in their domestic league. I think seeing the Europa League as a competition for teams that could not qualify for the champions league competition is better than regarding the Europa League as a competition for small clubs because teams like Chelsea, Barcelona and Manchester United have all participated in the Europa League and they are also winners of the champions league competition.

However, the situation of each club can change in every season. You must have seen how teams that have won domestic league trophies and qualified for the Champions League finally have to struggle in the new season.
Some teams may be consistent and dominate in the Champions League, and the Europa League cannot be underestimated. They still contain strong teams after the competition.
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December 27, 2024, 11:56:25 AM
The European League does look more competitive and there are always clubs that provide surprises in this competition and if we look at the list of champions of each competition, the Champions League is indeed dominated by big clubs while the European League that has won the most awards is not a club that can be said to have a big name (Sevilla) but last season unfortunately this club did not go down to the European League after failing in the UCL group stage and this season it also did not participate, it can be said that it is a representative club of La Liga that dominates the UEL even though when appearing in the domestic league it looks ordinary.

The Europa league wasn't made for big clubs therefore I don't expect the big clubs to win it. The Europa league was made for clubs that couldn't get into the champions league where the big clubs are playing. Sevilla are top winners but they can't compete with the big clubs in the champions league, Sevilla are like the Real Madrid for the champions league as regardless of how bad they can be playing, it's almost a guarantee that Real Madrid are going to win the champions league and the same with Sevilla for the Europa league. The league mightn't look very competitive this season but you can't pick out one club to be the potential winner still.

The Europa League competition may be seen as a competition that is not meant for clubs but some times we have seen some top clubs in Europe playing in the Europa League competition when they fail to qualify in the champions League as a result of not finishing among the 1st four teams in their domestic league. I think seeing the Europa League as a competition for teams that could not qualify for the champions league competition is better than regarding the Europa League as a competition for small clubs because teams like Chelsea, Barcelona and Manchester United have all participated in the Europa League and they are also winners of the champions league competition.
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December 27, 2024, 11:28:12 AM
Amorim might not be getting good results from EPL matches but he is doing pretty good in Europa, because United can defeat most clubs in Europa if they are determined to do so. Amorim should be scouting around looking for players that will be able to give him what he wants with his game strategy. I just hope that United can go far in Europa so that Amorim can use it to encourage himself.
In addition to the things and hopes you said, I also hope Amorim will make some other good strategies by targeting some new players in the January transfer market because if they only have the players like now, I doubt Manchester United can improve their position in the Premier League standings even though they might be quite good when competing in the Europa League this season. Because in yesterday's match Manchester United lost to a team that is ranked quite close to the relegation zone so Amorim still has to make more maximum improvements for Manchester United so they can go further in the Europa League this season.

The squad Amorim wants is not at Manchester United at the moment. That's why Amorim's adaptation process is taking longer, but it's not his fault because Amorim didn't bring these players to the team. The important thing is whether Amorim has learned from the games. The sooner he realizes that these players are not good, the better for Amorim. Otherwise he would have to face the same fate as his predecessors. There are successful teams in the Europa League. This season Athletic Bilbao and Lazio are both doing well in their league and in the Europa League. Manchester United, who still have serious problems with the squad, the structure of the game and the players, will find it very difficult to progress in the Europa League.
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December 27, 2024, 11:21:34 AM
The European League does look more competitive and there are always clubs that provide surprises in this competition and if we look at the list of champions of each competition, the Champions League is indeed dominated by big clubs while the European League that has won the most awards is not a club that can be said to have a big name (Sevilla) but last season unfortunately this club did not go down to the European League after failing in the UCL group stage and this season it also did not participate, it can be said that it is a representative club of La Liga that dominates the UEL even though when appearing in the domestic league it looks ordinary.

The Europa league wasn't made for big clubs therefore I don't expect the big clubs to win it. The Europa league was made for clubs that couldn't get into the champions league where the big clubs are playing. Sevilla are top winners but they can't compete with the big clubs in the champions league, Sevilla are like the Real Madrid for the champions league as regardless of how bad they can be playing, it's almost a guarantee that Real Madrid are going to win the champions league and the same with Sevilla for the Europa league. The league mightn't look very competitive this season but you can't pick out one club to be the potential winner still.
Yes, the Europa League is for clubs that cannot get the best place in the League and they will be in the Europa League, but I don't really agree if I have to say that the Europa League is not for big clubs, it's just that maybe big clubs that are used to being in the Champions League don't feel more challenged when they have to be in the Europa League compared to the Champions League. This is a fact that occurs, although many big clubs end up being thrown into the Europa League, but the ones who become champions in the end are "ordinary" clubs.
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December 27, 2024, 10:37:55 AM
however, Van Dijk is also still in the process of negotiating a contract extension. Liverpool's coach himself said that the club must be able to keep him in the team. I think the possibility of him leaving Liverpool will be quite small unless there is pressure from external factors that can influence his choice not to extend his contract with Liverpool.
MU must find other alternatives quickly. if not, they may miss many opportunities to improve the squad as Amorim wants.
Liverpool board knows exactly what they're doing, they've been working so hard to sort out the challenges of the club and they solved half the problem of the club when they brought in Jurgen Klopp. Arne Slot is best choice made by the club, he's having good chemistry with the players. Arne Slot working hand in hand with Liverpool players, he's informed with the special abilities of these players and working effectively on improvements. The Reds are topping the EPL table just first season managing Liverpool, he's already given the recognition he deserves.

Who's talking about the Dutchman exiting Anfield? Liverpool managed high profile players and they're not letting of imperative ones. The ones that makes a difference and upgrade in performance have been offered contract renewal and they will sign them without hesitation. Virgil Van Dijk will sign his contract, that's not even a problem for the Reds. They've more tougher decisions to make next season and that's brining in new players, Arne Slot will make good selection when its appropriate time.
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December 27, 2024, 10:02:21 AM
There are still many things that Amorim needs to improve, especially their defense line. Facing the remaining 2 Europa League matches will not be easy for MU. In addition to their unstable performance, they must see the strength of their opponents. Amorim must have seen some of his team's weaknesses in several matches when facing stronger teams or teams whose quality is below them. He must immediately create a strategy to cover up those weaknesses in addition to building the spirit and confidence of his players.
This is incredibly true, we have seen way too many games where United lost because of their defense. Unfortunately they focus on too much what they are missing on offense, but the reality is that their defense isn't good at all and they need someone better for it as well.

I can see how VVD leaving Liverpool this summer could benefit United if they play their cards right, we still don't know if VVD will leave or not, but if he does, that could be awesome for United and they should overspend just to get him. Or, if that doesn't work, just get someone better than what they have, not only centre backs, that would be great to get a decent one there, but mainly full backs, those are the weakest links if you ask me, and definitely according to many fans too.
however, Van Dijk is also still in the process of negotiating a contract extension. Liverpool's coach himself said that the club must be able to keep him in the team. I think the possibility of him leaving Liverpool will be quite small unless there is pressure from external factors that can influence his choice not to extend his contract with Liverpool.
MU must find other alternatives quickly. if not, they may miss many opportunities to improve the squad as Amorim wants.
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December 27, 2024, 08:27:39 AM
The European League does look more competitive and there are always clubs that provide surprises in this competition and if we look at the list of champions of each competition, the Champions League is indeed dominated by big clubs while the European League that has won the most awards is not a club that can be said to have a big name (Sevilla) but last season unfortunately this club did not go down to the European League after failing in the UCL group stage and this season it also did not participate, it can be said that it is a representative club of La Liga that dominates the UEL even though when appearing in the domestic league it looks ordinary.

The Europa league wasn't made for big clubs therefore I don't expect the big clubs to win it. The Europa league was made for clubs that couldn't get into the champions league where the big clubs are playing. Sevilla are top winners but they can't compete with the big clubs in the champions league, Sevilla are like the Real Madrid for the champions league as regardless of how bad they can be playing, it's almost a guarantee that Real Madrid are going to win the champions league and the same with Sevilla for the Europa league. The league mightn't look very competitive this season but you can't pick out one club to be the potential winner still.
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December 27, 2024, 07:30:41 AM
In the European competition I think Europa league is one of the most difficult one to win, I think it even more difficult to win than the champion league. The reason is that most team that participated in the champions league every year are teams that have won it before, the like of Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona, inter Milan, and so on but in the Europa league most team that participate haven’t won, in recent years the team that win the Europa league are teams that fail to qualify from the champions league group stages, the likes of Sevilla, Manchester United too, Villarreal, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea and so on. So these teams now in the Europa league will put in every effort to win it. I think it still easy for Amorim to make the Top 6 in the English Premier League than winning the Europa League.
The European League does look more competitive and there are always clubs that provide surprises in this competition and if we look at the list of champions of each competition, the Champions League is indeed dominated by big clubs while the European League that has won the most awards is not a club that can be said to have a big name (Sevilla) but last season unfortunately this club did not go down to the European League after failing in the UCL group stage and this season it also did not participate, it can be said that it is a representative club of La Liga that dominates the UEL even though when appearing in the domestic league it looks ordinary.
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December 27, 2024, 05:09:12 AM
Amorim might not be getting good results from EPL matches but he is doing pretty good in Europa, because United can defeat most clubs in Europa if they are determined to do so. Amorim should be scouting around looking for players that will be able to give him what he wants with his game strategy. I just hope that United can go far in Europa so that Amorim can use it to encourage himself.
In addition to the things and hopes you said, I also hope Amorim will make some other good strategies by targeting some new players in the January transfer market because if they only have the players like now, I doubt Manchester United can improve their position in the Premier League standings even though they might be quite good when competing in the Europa League this season. Because in yesterday's match Manchester United lost to a team that is ranked quite close to the relegation zone so Amorim still has to make more maximum improvements for Manchester United so they can go further in the Europa League this season.
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December 27, 2024, 03:54:02 AM
Compared to Manchester United’s Premier League performance, they have really improved in the Europa League since they sacked Ten Hag as they have already won their last two matches in the Europa League which helped the team to be promoted to the eighth position in the Europa League’s table and it has increased their chance in the Europa League because they can now be considered among the favorites teams after Lazio, Bilbao, and Tottenham.
But if Amorim’s team didn’t win their next match, they might drop from their current position because it’s just three points between them and the 17th position which makes it very important to win their match.
Manchester United have suffered back-to-back defeats in the Premier League and it might have a little effect on them in the Europa League competition. This is what makes me think it will be difficult for them to get success this season in the Europa League because their strength still needs to be fixed and there are many players who might not show their best performance. The competition in the Europa League will definitely increase and the real challenge will be seen in the next round because it will create a much tighter competition compared to the qualifying round.
Like it or not, Ruben Amorim must overhaul all the players, seeing several sources Ruben Amorim has prepared several players to be brought in the upcoming transfer market because several players after Ten Hag's departure still play their way of playing that's why Man United is still having difficulty winning, if playing in the Europa League still using players who are currently certain Man United will have difficulty winning Man United must really overhaul all the players, I am very sure if Ruben Amorim is able to get rid of all the players after Ten Hag's departure Man United will be able to compete with strong teams and they can even play well in the Europa League or Champions League, only the upcoming transfer market can change Man United's game because bringing in players who are suitable and needed will be much better than bringing in players who are not suitable for the Premier League game where the playing style is rich in speed and high balls.
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December 27, 2024, 03:38:21 AM
Compared to Manchester United’s Premier League performance, they have really improved in the Europa League since they sacked Ten Hag as they have already won their last two matches in the Europa League which helped the team to be promoted to the eighth position in the Europa League’s table and it has increased their chance in the Europa League because they can now be considered among the favorites teams after Lazio, Bilbao, and Tottenham.
But if Amorim’s team didn’t win their next match, they might drop from their current position because it’s just three points between them and the 17th position which makes it very important to win their match.
Manchester United have suffered back-to-back defeats in the Premier League and it might have a little effect on them in the Europa League competition. This is what makes me think it will be difficult for them to get success this season in the Europa League because their strength still needs to be fixed and there are many players who might not show their best performance. The competition in the Europa League will definitely increase and the real challenge will be seen in the next round because it will create a much tighter competition compared to the qualifying round.
I can’t really say how he got those win in the Europa league but I have seen changes in the Manchester United team since Ten hag left, like the players still play the same and they all still look like that are forcing them to play. When there is a change of coach in a system, normally there use to be a spark in the team for a while but not this Manchester United team, the way they play, the way they mark, even the way they try to build up is very poor, sometimes I begin to question myself is Amorim Good enough, this is not what we expect from him, we all saw how is sporting team was, how they chase after every lose ball, how they make use of ball and even score goals too. You need to see how Manchester are clueless when they get to the final third. Well let see after a couple of transfer window maybe Manchester United will improve.
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December 27, 2024, 03:03:27 AM
Dynamo Kyiv no longer has a chance to qualify for the next round, even for the play-off round, Dynamo Kyiv still won't be able to because there are only 2 matches left and only collect 6 points if they win those 2 matches and they won't reach 24th place which currently has 7 points so it won't be enough to catch up so there's no point if Dynamo Kyiv fights very hard to win and Galatasaray of course won't give up, they will win this match to secure their position.
In fact, because of this, Galatasaray really has to be wary of Dynamo Kyiv. The reason is, even though Galatasaray are favorites and can definitely win this match, Galatasaray still cannot afford to be careless in this match. The reason is that Dynamo Kyiv could perform well in this match, this is because Dynamo Kyiv no longer has a burden in the European League. So they play better, because their minds remain calm and they are not afraid of losing. Because as we know, Dynamo Kyiv will definitely not qualify for the next phase, because currently Dynamo Kyiv is in the bottom position of the standings. Therefore, Galatasaray should not think that the match with Dynamo Kyiv will be easy, because after I think about it, there could be surprises in this match. Because as we know, in the Ukrainian domestic league, Dynamo Kyiv's performance is really great, because currently Dynamo Kyiv has managed to become top of the standings in the domestic league. Therefore, it is possible that in the match against Galatasaray, Dynamo Kyiv will show a real performance. So Galatasaray really have to be careful if they want to go straight into the next round without going through the play-off route. Because currently the difference in points between Galatasaray and the teams below it is not too far. So, if, for example, Galatasaray loses and the teams below it win, it could be that Galatasaray fails to enter the next phase directly.
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December 27, 2024, 02:29:29 AM
Compared to Manchester United’s Premier League performance, they have really improved in the Europa League since they sacked Ten Hag as they have already won their last two matches in the Europa League which helped the team to be promoted to the eighth position in the Europa League’s table and it has increased their chance in the Europa League because they can now be considered among the favorites teams after Lazio, Bilbao, and Tottenham.
But if Amorim’s team didn’t win their next match, they might drop from their current position because it’s just three points between them and the 17th position which makes it very important to win their match.
Manchester United have suffered back-to-back defeats in the Premier League and it might have a little effect on them in the Europa League competition. This is what makes me think it will be difficult for them to get success this season in the Europa League because their strength still needs to be fixed and there are many players who might not show their best performance. The competition in the Europa League will definitely increase and the real challenge will be seen in the next round because it will create a much tighter competition compared to the qualifying round.
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December 27, 2024, 01:46:00 AM
So the shortcut is they have to be able to win the Europa League title in order to play in the Champions League next season, it would be more realistic for Man United to focus on the Europa League right now. Moreover, their opponents in the next match in terms of quality, Man United are better than Rangers. so Man United's chances of automatically qualifying for the last 16 are very big.
This made me recall what some pundits said about United. A pundit that I followed stated that winning the Europa League is difficult for United too, so they should lower their targets and accept that next season they won't participate in the UCL/Europa League again. Let Amorim build his squad and implement his tactics. If they don't participate in the UCL or Europa League, it can be a blessing in disguise for next season if it means better confidence, better gameplay, etc. Not sure if the fans would agree with that though. Sometimes it feels like they should finish top 4 or participate in the UCL regardless of how they play every week.
Yes I can understand that, although there is still a chance for them, but it is still not an easy thing to do, especially in a situation where they are still looking for their form. But maybe they will look more convincing if they manage to take advantage of the transfer window and bring in players who can have a big impact on Manchester United's game. Because if we look, actually the current Manchester United players are good names, but at the same time they are also not at their best level. And actually this has happened in the last few seasons where their players have played below their best abilities.
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December 27, 2024, 01:40:56 AM
There are still many things that Amorim needs to improve, especially their defense line. Facing the remaining 2 Europa League matches will not be easy for MU. In addition to their unstable performance, they must see the strength of their opponents. Amorim must have seen some of his team's weaknesses in several matches when facing stronger teams or teams whose quality is below them. He must immediately create a strategy to cover up those weaknesses in addition to building the spirit and confidence of his players.
This is incredibly true, we have seen way too many games where United lost because of their defense. Unfortunately they focus on too much what they are missing on offense, but the reality is that their defense isn't good at all and they need someone better for it as well.

I can see how VVD leaving Liverpool this summer could benefit United if they play their cards right, we still don't know if VVD will leave or not, but if he does, that could be awesome for United and they should overspend just to get him. Or, if that doesn't work, just get someone better than what they have, not only centre backs, that would be great to get a decent one there, but mainly full backs, those are the weakest links if you ask me, and definitely according to many fans too.
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December 27, 2024, 01:32:38 AM
So the shortcut is they have to be able to win the Europa League title in order to play in the Champions League next season, it would be more realistic for Man United to focus on the Europa League right now. Moreover, their opponents in the next match in terms of quality, Man United are better than Rangers. so Man United's chances of automatically qualifying for the last 16 are very big.
This made me recall what some pundits said about United. A pundit that I followed stated that winning the Europa League is difficult for United too, so they should lower their targets and accept that next season they won't participate in the UCL/Europa League again. Let Amorim build his squad and implement his tactics. If they don't participate in the UCL or Europa League, it can be a blessing in disguise for next season if it means better confidence, better gameplay, etc. Not sure if the fans would agree with that though. Sometimes it feels like they should finish top 4 or participate in the UCL regardless of how they play every week.
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December 26, 2024, 06:06:06 PM
Man United is currently ranked 7th in the Europa League standings with 12 points, quite interesting when looking at their journey because so far they have not been touched by defeat. This performance is in contrast to the Premier League, where Man United is still stuck outside the top ten of the standings. We know that Amorim needs time to boost the team performance, and I think they still have a chance to stabilize their performance in the second half of the season. If you look at the opportunities that Man United currently has, Amorim should prioritize the Europa League in the future.

Man United chances of getting full points in the next two matches are actually quite high, because the opponents they will face are not dominant teams. However, Amorim and his team should not be careless and underestimate them, because Ranger and FCSB also have the ambition to finish in the top 8 of the standings in order to automatically qualify for the last 16. Regardless of Man United performance in the Premier League, I think Amorim squad deserves to be called a trophy challenger in the Europa League this season.
Because Man United have been down for years, not just for a moment. Mistakes usually always start from the management structure and philosophy of the club's technical advisors. Then it spreads to the coaching team and players. There is something wrong with Man United as a whole, so it's not just because of the coach. And I think Amorim understands that, sometimes we have to step back to try to move forward, there are also times when we are at our lowest point but if we believe in the process and are consistent in building a better direction going forward, believe that the time will come to be in the glory days again.

So it's true as you said what happened to Man United in the EPL league will not necessarily have an impact on the European league. In addition, I think Amorim is aware that the EPL league will be difficult to catch up to finish in the top four, although the season is still very long but it will be difficult and Amorim is aware of that. So the shortcut is they have to be able to win the Europa League title in order to play in the Champions League next season, it would be more realistic for Man United to focus on the Europa League right now. Moreover, their opponents in the next match in terms of quality, Man United are better than Rangers. so Man United's chances of automatically qualifying for the last 16 are very big.

I am sure Man United will rise, and can be a challenger in the Europa League trophy this season with the squad they currently have. What Amorim needs to do is continue to improve the team, work hard, then in the future Man United will be better.
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