UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 173.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 13, 2021, 03:03:08 PM

Napoli should be able to move Barcelona out of their way now if we consider the recent performances of both teams. Napoli have started a bad form lately though but they are still much better than their opponent now. Barcelona are still making a big effort to improve their performance and they are getting bad results in this period of time too of course. If they don't reach a decent level in two months, they won't be able to fight back much against Napoli most probably.

I can say that all is not well with Barcelona. Apart from their financial crisis and poor game play, they are not even lucky in some fixtures. That was how they entered Bayern Munich group in Champions league. They successfully crashed out, which has not happened for about 18yrs now.
Yet, in the Europa they got Napoli. I know too well that Napoli will not take it easy with Barcelona at all.
It is possible they'll crash out of Europa League too.

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When it comes to the teams left after the group stage, the biggest candidates to win the championship seem like Barcelona, Dortmund, Napoli and Sevilla to me. It wouldn't be fair not to add Sevilla among these candidates. Because they are the most successful team in the Europa League in the last ten years. They will be a big threat again obviously.

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Quote from: poldanmig on December 14, 2021, 02:50:39 PM

Quote from: Distraction on December 14, 2021, 05:43:08 AM

A final match like Barcelona - Dortmund, Barcelona - Napoli or Dortmund - Napoli would be really perfect for this tournament. Because I would really like to watch a quality final match in this tournament and this would increase the attention to the final match also at the same time. Because normally there is not as much attention as the final match in the Champions League.

The knockout phase for the Europa League this season is quite interesting, because we will see a number of big matches occur early, the preliminary match between Barcelona and Napoli can be said to be a big game of the European league, I think whoever can win the match later can be said to be a strong candidate to be able to penetrate the European league final this season.
The Europa League knockout stages first leg will start on 17 February 2022 and the second leg will take place on 24 February 2021.

In this season we have some good number of quality teams drops from Champions League into Europa League which makes this very interesting Barcelona, Napoli, Dortmund and Porto are big teams with few are having very good record like Sevilla is also not bad at all in current situation with good form teams like West Ham and Bayer Leverkusen all are having one motivation to win this year's title who is going to be succeeded in this process its very difficult because it's not easy for anyone to predict all can do upset on their day even few teams are badly struggling or have some difficult time for different reasons but still we will have some quality soccer after 2 months.

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It is really great that we are going to be able to watch really big teams in this tournament as of last 32 stage. It is not good for them of course as they deserve to be in the Champions League normally. But their efforts were not good enough to make this happen seemingly. We see even Barcelona in the Europa League which must be devastating news for the fans of the team also. But Barcelona players should focus fully on their work and do their best to achieve the title.

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Quote from: Distraction on December 14, 2021, 05:43:08 AM

A final match like Barcelona - Dortmund, Barcelona - Napoli or Dortmund - Napoli would be really perfect for this tournament. Because I would really like to watch a quality final match in this tournament and this would increase the attention to the final match also at the same time. Because normally there is not as much attention as the final match in the Champions League.

The knockout phase for the Europa League this season is quite interesting, because we will see a number of big matches occur early, the preliminary match between Barcelona and Napoli can be said to be a big game of the European league, I think whoever can win the match later can be said to be a strong candidate to be able to penetrate the European league final this season.
The Europa League knockout stages first leg will start on 17 February 2022 and the second leg will take place on 24 February 2021.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2021, 09:08:42 PM

I believe the favorite as champion is a club that has been eliminated from the Champions league, Maybe this is not fair?. Barcelona and Dortmund are is one of them

When I look at the past, this team will be quite opponent and become a champion competitor no.1 from the real member like; west ham, Leverkusen and etc ( the team as a champion group). looks unfair, but they have to because both are sources of money income to Uefa.

Right now predicting about winning team is not easy as few teams already announced about their desire like Dortmund and Napoli, but we have Sevilla, Porto and Atalanta those can make big upset in any match with Barcelona and Real Sociedad are also good enough, but Barcelona situation is not clear as Xavi has some hard time here in Barcelona after taking charge from Koeman is worst time.

West Ham and Leverkusen are also very good clubs with some good run currently in their leagues but sadly have not enough firepower like Porto Dortmund and Sevilla which is very important for win here in this cup.

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Dortmund - Rangers draw can also be an enjoyable one for us. Because these teams both are productive teams especially in their domestic leagues. And I expect the game in Signal Iduna Park especially to be superb. Dortmund are going to be the highly favourite club here in both games but surprising things can happen any time. For example, Dortmund's being eliminated from the Champions League was a big surprise.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2021, 09:08:42 PM

Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 13, 2021, 07:28:06 AM

And the draw has been completed!

Sevilla - Dinamo Zagreb
Atalanta - Olympiacos
Leipzig - Real Sociedad
Barcelona - Napoli
Zenit - Betis
Dortmund - Rangers
Sheriff - Braga
Porto - Lazio

I believe the favorite as champion is a club that has been eliminated from the Champions league, Maybe this is not fair?. Barcelona and Dortmund are is one of them

When I look at the past, this team will be quite opponent and become a champion competitor no.1 from the real member like; west ham, Leverkusen and etc ( the team as a champion group). looks unfair, but they have to because both are sources of money income to Uefa.

This is fair, but it devalues the meaning of the Europa League. Essentially, the Europa League has become a sump for teams that are not good enough for the Champions League and that have "free time from the domestic league" to take part in the consolation competition. Judging by the results of the games, many clubs prioritize this tournament in second place (after the domestic championship), so the quality of the games here is not very good.

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I expect excitement in the Borussia Dortmund -Rangers match. However, the Barça-Napoli matchup was like a CL match. Napoli is a strong team, they can beat Barça. I even think that the winner of this match will reach the semi-finals.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 13, 2021, 04:47:06 PM

Not a happy draft for Italians here.

Barca Napoli and Porto Lazio even they will make a lot of money from fans at the stadium will not be easy matches at all maybe was the worst possible outcome for them.

Agreed. For the Barcelona vs Napoli matchup, I suppose that Napoli can capture a big advantage if they manage to draw with Barcelona at least. In that case, Napoli would most probably move on to the next round. And for the Porto vs Lazio matchup, I suppose that the first match will end in a draw and Lazio will beat them in the other match. These are the best cases to me as I don't think any of them will have a comfortable round.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 13, 2021, 04:47:06 PM

Not a happy draft for Italians here.

Barca Napoli and Porto Lazio even they will make a lot of money from fans at the stadium will not be easy matches at all maybe was the worst possible outcome for them.

But I personally believe they still have a chance to qualify, Barcelona and Porto right now are no better than them either in my personal view. Apart from that, it's still Atalanta which I think Atalanta has a very good chance of advancing to the next round. But overall, I personally don't have a problem with a draw like that, about Napoli sometimes being able to play well and sometimes not being a problem for the team but fortunately Barcelona during this season is not very good also playing under high pressure is tough for the Barcelona squad.

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A final match like Barcelona - Dortmund, Barcelona - Napoli or Dortmund - Napoli would be really perfect for this tournament. Because I would really like to watch a quality final match in this tournament and this would increase the attention to the final match also at the same time. Because normally there is not as much attention as the final match in the Champions League.

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Quote from: ziyaaa on December 14, 2021, 05:11:33 AM

Quote from: Jackl87 on December 14, 2021, 02:33:04 AM

The Europa League is naturally always in the shadow of the Champions League but this year we have 3 matches that could also happen in the knockout stage of the Champions league with Barcelona vs. Napoli, Porto vs. Lazio and Dortmund vs. Glasgow Rangers.
That was a pretty unlucky draw for Barcelona. They desperately need money because they have 1,35 Billion € of debts and first they missed the knockout stage if the Champions League and now they are even in great danger of being eliminated from the EL too.

I definitely agree with your first sentence. The Europa League was never at the forefront compared to the Champions League. And this was especially because of the format that causes worse teams in quality to exist in this tournament mostly. But for this season, it really seems like we are going to watch great rounds. We see even teams like Barcelona and Dortmund coming from the Champions League. This kind of powerful teams can increase the quality a lot.

You are right. The league will be more competitive as teams like Barcelona and Dortmund join the Europa League. Many more people will now enjoy the Europa League live. I'm not sure if it will grow in popularity. But I would be happy if Barcelona and Dortmund had met in the semi-finals or the final.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on December 13, 2021, 01:56:26 PM

After the draw has been completed successfully, I see that there are really tough matches like Barcelona v Napoli

But apparently not, but it's true it was an interesting match for the fans of both team. Napoli lost consistency and Barcelona too. Both teams have experienced a decline in performance in their respective League but Barcelona may be the favorite considering this team is in the recovery phase with its new coach. After failing in the Champions League, Barcelona had no other choice but to strengthen their focus on two competition, namely the European League and Spanish LaLiga. These two title may still be expected even though at this time their performance can not be expected.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on December 14, 2021, 02:33:04 AM

The Europa League is naturally always in the shadow of the Champions League but this year we have 3 matches that could also happen in the knockout stage of the Champions league with Barcelona vs. Napoli, Porto vs. Lazio and Dortmund vs. Glasgow Rangers.
That was a pretty unlucky draw for Barcelona. They desperately need money because they have 1,35 Billion € of debts and first they missed the knockout stage if the Champions League and now they are even in great danger of being eliminated from the EL too.

I definitely agree with your first sentence. The Europa League was never at the forefront compared to the Champions League. And this was especially because of the format that causes worse teams in quality to exist in this tournament mostly. But for this season, it really seems like we are going to watch great rounds. We see even teams like Barcelona and Dortmund coming from the Champions League. This kind of powerful teams can increase the quality a lot.

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Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 13, 2021, 07:28:06 AM

And the draw has been completed!

Sevilla - Dinamo Zagreb
Atalanta - Olympiacos
Leipzig - Real Sociedad
Barcelona - Napoli
Zenit - Betis
Dortmund - Rangers
Sheriff - Braga
Porto - Lazio

The Europa League is naturally always in the shadow of the Champions League but this year we have 3 matches that could also happen in the knockout stage of the Champions league with Barcelona vs. Napoli, Porto vs. Lazio and Dortmund vs. Glasgow Rangers.
That was a pretty unlucky draw for Barcelona. They desperately need money because they have 1,35 Billion € of debts and first they missed the knockout stage if the Champions League and now they are even in great danger of being eliminated from the EL too.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on December 13, 2021, 09:57:27 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2021, 09:08:42 PM

Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 13, 2021, 07:28:06 AM

And the draw has been completed!

Sevilla - Dinamo Zagreb
Atalanta - Olympiacos
Leipzig - Real Sociedad
Barcelona - Napoli
Zenit - Betis
Dortmund - Rangers
Sheriff - Braga
Porto - Lazio

I believe the favorite as champion is a club that has been eliminated from the Champions league, Maybe this is not fair?. Barcelona and Dortmund are is one of them

When I look at the past, this team will be quite opponent and become a champion competitor no.1 from the real member like; west ham, Leverkusen and etc ( the team as a champion group). looks unfair, but they have to because both are sources of money income to Uefa.

As it stands now,I can not vote Barcelona to be the Europa league champions because they are not doing well at the moment,and we can't just say they can beat a team like West Ham .West Ham is one of the teams I tipped for the Europa league trophy,because they are good and they also have a good team spirit,being ready to to win at big scene.
They are the favourites to me and not Barcelona.

I don’t know if Barcelona will win it, because I fear they’ll be eliminated from this competition too as Xavi has a long road ahead of him before he can rebuild Barcelona. Furthermore I agree that West Ham are very strong, but with Dortmund in suddenly I’m favouring them to win it because of Halland.

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Quote from: blue Snow on December 13, 2021, 09:08:42 PM

Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 13, 2021, 07:28:06 AM

And the draw has been completed!

Sevilla - Dinamo Zagreb
Atalanta - Olympiacos
Leipzig - Real Sociedad
Barcelona - Napoli
Zenit - Betis
Dortmund - Rangers
Sheriff - Braga
Porto - Lazio

I believe the favorite as champion is a club that has been eliminated from the Champions league, Maybe this is not fair?. Barcelona and Dortmund are is one of them

When I look at the past, this team will be quite opponent and become a champion competitor no.1 from the real member like; west ham, Leverkusen and etc ( the team as a champion group). looks unfair, but they have to because both are sources of money income to Uefa.

As it stands now,I can not vote Barcelona to be the Europa league champions because they are not doing well at the moment,and we can't just say they can beat a team like West Ham .West Ham is one of the teams I tipped for the Europa league trophy,because they are good and they also have a good team spirit,being ready to to win at big scene.
They are the favourites to me and not Barcelona.

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Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 13, 2021, 07:28:06 AM

And the draw has been completed!

Sevilla - Dinamo Zagreb
Atalanta - Olympiacos
Leipzig - Real Sociedad
Barcelona - Napoli
Zenit - Betis
Dortmund - Rangers
Sheriff - Braga
Porto - Lazio

I believe the favorite as champion is a club that has been eliminated from the Champions league, Maybe this is not fair?. Barcelona and Dortmund are is one of them

When I look at the past, this team will be quite opponent and become a champion competitor no.1 from the real member like; west ham, Leverkusen and etc ( the team as a champion group). looks unfair, but they have to because both are sources of money income to Uefa.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on December 13, 2021, 03:03:08 PM

Napoli should be able to move Barcelona out of their way now if we consider the recent performances of both teams. Napoli have started a bad form lately though but they are still much better than their opponent now. Barcelona are still making a big effort to improve their performance and they are getting bad results in this period of time too of course. If they don't reach a decent level in two months, they won't be able to fight back much against Napoli most probably.

If you think right here and now, in my humble opinion, Napoli looks better and more thorough than Barcelona. Another question is that there are still two months ahead, during which Xavi and the Barcelona management will not sit idly by and try to improve the game and, most importantly, the results of the club. It all depends on how the transfer company will be conducted and what reinforcements the clubs will receive. At least Barcelona President Laporta promised to help strengthen the squad in January. Another question is how all this will be combined with the financial situation and the fact that the plans to overcome the financial crisis have already included funds from entering the 1/8 Champions League, and not getting into the 1/16 Europa League, where the financial income as you progress will be a multiple of less.

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