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December 30, 2021, 11:16:26 AM
There is one problem with Dortmund they have never been any ambition for good club in Europe because their management is going with money, and mostly they grow a player then sold him on very good price just because of this they never achieve any good silverware in Europe and have good history in Germany behind Bayern.

Right now, same doing with Haaland they are creating hype around him for having their targeted price, so hopefully they will do some special here in Europa for having this all in better way. In next summer we have going to have some new stars in European soccer with Mbappé and Haaland are both going to for their better future in big clubs.

It is difficult to evaluate the strategy of Borussia, since we do not know what depends on what - whether it sells players out of a desire to make money, or whether it makes money by selling players from a lack of them. In any case, I'm sure Borussia has less money than Bavaria. As for Haaland, he himself inflates the hype around him - his performance is better than that of Ronaldo or any other player in his years.
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December 30, 2021, 10:52:04 AM
As far as I can remember, Dortmund's biggest success in European tournaments lately was their qualifying for the Champions League final in the 2012/13 season. They played against Bayern Munich in the finale but lost by 2-1. This was their closest chance for a European tournament title. Dortmund's biggest achievement in European tournaments history was their Champions League championship in the 1996/97 season.

Considering all of this, maybe they would like to make an effort to win the title in this tournament at least. And they need Erling Haaland also to have a bigger chance to do this.
There is one problem with Dortmund they have never been any ambition for good club in Europe because their management is going with money, and mostly they grow a player then sold him on very good price just because of this they never achieve any good silverware in Europe and have good history in Germany behind Bayern.

Right now, same doing with Haaland they are creating hype around him for having their targeted price, so hopefully they will do some special here in Europa for having this all in better way. In next summer we have going to have some new stars in European soccer with Mbappé and Haaland are both going to for their better future in big clubs.
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December 30, 2021, 05:46:48 AM
Although Dortmund is a big and striking team in Germany but still, Dortmund's achievements in Europe are not so good. Indeed, in domestic tournaments Dortmund deserve to be considered for the title winner but in European tournaments like UCL and UEL, I think Dortmund still has no chance of winning the title. We can see how Dortmund's performance in the UCL before finally becoming part of the UEL now, Dortmund before being projected to advance to the knockout phase in the UCL because they were in a group that wasn't too difficult but Dortmund was still unable to get the expected results.

As far as I can remember, Dortmund's biggest success in European tournaments lately was their qualifying for the Champions League final in the 2012/13 season. They played against Bayern Munich in the finale but lost by 2-1. This was their closest chance for a European tournament title. Dortmund's biggest achievement in European tournaments history was their Champions League championship in the 1996/97 season.

Considering all of this, maybe they would like to make an effort to win the title in this tournament at least. And they need Erling Haaland also to have a bigger chance to do this.
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December 30, 2021, 03:23:17 AM
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I would argue ... especially now that there is so much hype around Haaland (he understands this and I think he will make every effort in the upcoming Europa League matches to raise his own price). The Norwegian received a clear deadline (until the end of February) to decide whether he will stay in his native club or not, and this time will definitely be enough to strengthen his position. Although, if I were the owner or coach of Borussia, I would hint to Erling about his excessive ambitions regarding foreign clubs (and joke about his too large female lips. lol)Cheesy
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December 30, 2021, 02:48:56 AM
I believe that Dortmund should do their best to win the Europa League championship. Because they won't most probably be winning the Bundesliga championship this season as they already are far away from Bayern Munich in the standings now. But they should at least thrive for winning a championship in this season. Maybe they don't need the title of this tournament as they would join the Champions League by ending the season at a decent position in the Bundesliga. But it is worse for them if they end it without any title.

aCLS63 Dortmund are indeed a very strong team, but I don’t think that they’ll find it easy to win in the Europa League and they’ll have to bring their best game to win the league title. Lastly if they bow out of this league without reaching the finals then yes indeed it’ll be a disaster for them, hence it’ll be really interesting to see if they chose to prioritise winning this league or no.
Although Dortmund is a big and striking team in Germany but still, Dortmund's achievements in Europe are not so good. Indeed, in domestic tournaments Dortmund deserve to be considered for the title winner but in European tournaments like UCL and UEL, I think Dortmund still has no chance of winning the title. We can see how Dortmund's performance in the UCL before finally becoming part of the UEL now, Dortmund before being projected to advance to the knockout phase in the UCL because they were in a group that wasn't too difficult but Dortmund was still unable to get the expected results.
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December 30, 2021, 02:14:42 AM
I believe that Dortmund should do their best to win the Europa League championship. Because they won't most probably be winning the Bundesliga championship this season as they already are far away from Bayern Munich in the standings now. But they should at least thrive for winning a championship in this season. Maybe they don't need the title of this tournament as they would join the Champions League by ending the season at a decent position in the Bundesliga. But it is worse for them if they end it without any title.

aCLS63 Dortmund are indeed a very strong team, but I don’t think that they’ll find it easy to win in the Europa League and they’ll have to bring their best game to win the league title. Lastly if they bow out of this league without reaching the finals then yes indeed it’ll be a disaster for them, hence it’ll be really interesting to see if they chose to prioritise winning this league or no.
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December 29, 2021, 02:47:30 PM
I believe that Dortmund should do their best to win the Europa League championship. Because they won't most probably be winning the Bundesliga championship this season as they already are far away from Bayern Munich in the standings now. But they should at least thrive for winning a championship in this season. Maybe they don't need the title of this tournament as they would join the Champions League by ending the season at a decent position in the Bundesliga. But it is worse for them if they end it without any title.
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December 29, 2021, 02:22:12 PM
The result of the match was little bit surprising because I think that Sevilla is better and has more chance to win. But in fact on the field, everything can happen as what Barcelona shown in that match. Barcelona really played very well,  moreover after Sevilla got one red card, this really gave influence that the club cannot score again.
It is hopefully that Barcelona will exactly sign Haaland, but it may be difficult because of the financial. But, really hopefully it can be,  this cub exactly needs something bigger to rise up again.
I don't think anyone can question the quality of Barcelona's players, and they've been playing well. The problem is that it seems that they don't know what to do when they reach certain areas of the field, and then they start to get desperate because they don't score. And that doesn't help.
Barcelona is getting well in terms of play. Xavi is doing a nice work. If they continue thjs way, they will get better by next year. Even their recent signing is a resounding hope for the club.
Though they have a very tight fixture with Napoli. Though Napoli started well in the season but they are becoming somewhat inconsistent now. So, if Napoli does not recover before Fabuary, it is expected that Barcelona should fight and scale through.

Napoli and Barcelona are now in a different position.
Barcelona started the season very badly. There was a team that was very weak and unpredictable. Now they are trying to solve their problems with Xavi. They are somewhat stable now. Napoli, on the other hand, started the season very strongly. They were at the top of the points table, winning several matches at once. But now their performance has deteriorated.
So, I see equal chances for both teams to win this match.
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December 29, 2021, 09:52:25 AM
The result of the match was little bit surprising because I think that Sevilla is better and has more chance to win. But in fact on the field, everything can happen as what Barcelona shown in that match. Barcelona really played very well,  moreover after Sevilla got one red card, this really gave influence that the club cannot score again.
It is hopefully that Barcelona will exactly sign Haaland, but it may be difficult because of the financial. But, really hopefully it can be,  this cub exactly needs something bigger to rise up again.

I don't think anyone can question the quality of Barcelona's players, and they've been playing well. The problem is that it seems that they don't know what to do when they reach certain areas of the field, and then they start to get desperate because they don't score. And that doesn't help.
Barcelona is getting well in terms of play. Xavi is doing a nice work. If they continue thjs way, they will get better by next year. Even their recent signing is a resounding hope for the club.
Though they have a very tight fixture with Napoli. Though Napoli started well in the season but they are becoming somewhat inconsistent now. So, if Napoli does not recover before Fabuary, it is expected that Barcelona should fight and scale through.
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December 24, 2021, 03:49:31 PM
Dortmund are losing their title chance in the Bundesliga little by little every week. They still would be able to qualify for the Champions League easily though but maybe they would start focusing on the Europa League more to at least win a title this season. And this would lead them to demolish Rangers in their matchup. This would be a great start and they would threaten the other teams like this also.
Right now the chance for dormund to win the bundesliga title is almost impossible, as well as the champion league trophy,  their chances of winning the champion have been tightly closed, but currently dortmund still have two competitive titles that they might be able to win, one of which is the DFB trophy which may be relatively easy for them to get, while for the european league cup, i'm a little doubtful if dortmund can get it, because even though the UEFA league is the european league second caste competition, but still there will be tough competition in the match and now some big teams like barcelona, ​​napoli, atlanta and PSV of course also target to be able to get a trophy.


Depends on what kind of grid they have, maybe they'll make the finals easily, who knows? (Actually, there is already a grid, I just can't find it). By net I mean how they will play starting in 1/8, because I personally think they will make it to 1/8, I don't think the Rangers in 1/16 will be a problem for them.
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December 24, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
Sevilla is indeed better now, but that does not mean it has to win 10 out of 10 matches against Barcelona. Let's say the spread of results can be as follows: 4 wins, 2 losses and 4 draws. Obviously the team with 4 wins is better, but they only win 40% of the time. Therefore, when we place bets, we must take into account this spread and think about earning only at a distance and not in a particular match on which everything depends.
Actually we don't think about that is a must. We only predict based on the chances that are had by each club before matches, that is why there are some predictions. And the results based on the live match on the field will sometimes not match to our prediction or expectation. We can see from the paper that one club maybe better than another, but in fact in the field on match, they are lost.
Like what happen to Sevilla, I don't mean that the club must win 10 from 10 always win win and win without any losses.

The problem is that there is always space for randomness in sports. You say that a club that is stronger than another club on paper in reality loses - yes, it happens. But I meant another case: the really strongest club (not on paper, but in fact) sometimes loses to a weaker (and even an obvious outsider) club. This happens often and we must take this into account when placing bets.
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December 23, 2021, 06:55:49 PM
I don't think anyone can question the quality of Barcelona's players, and they've been playing well. The problem is that it seems that they don't know what to do when they reach certain areas of the field, and then they start to get desperate because they don't score. And that doesn't help.
Yeah, so far we sometimes ask questions about the condition in Barcelona because this club is very decreasing from a very big club to  be that kind of condition right now. That is why actually some questions about Barcelona is actually very normal in this case. But for that last match, yeah I personally really appreciate that this club can play very well and win the match. Many people were doubtful  about the match, but Barcelona has proven that. Let's see what will happen to the next matches faced by Barcelona.

Sevilla is indeed better now, but that does not mean it has to win 10 out of 10 matches against Barcelona. Let's say the spread of results can be as follows: 4 wins, 2 losses and 4 draws. Obviously the team with 4 wins is better, but they only win 40% of the time. Therefore, when we place bets, we must take into account this spread and think about earning only at a distance and not in a particular match on which everything depends.
Actually we don't think about that is a must. We only predict based on the chances that are had by each club before matches, that is why there are some predictions. And the results based on the live match on the field will sometimes not match to our prediction or expectation. We can see from the paper that one club maybe better than another, but in fact in the field on match, they are lost.
Like what happen to Sevilla, I don't mean that the club must win 10 from 10 always win win and win without any losses.



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December 23, 2021, 02:06:16 PM
Dortmund have a really comfortable matchup in the current stage of the Europa League. Rangers can be one of the biggest teams of the Scotland League but I don't think that they are capable enough to make big difficulties for Dortmund in this matchup. Dortmund have a golden opportunity to put on a great show here. And I don't expect them to refuse it. I think Dortmund will destroy them in Signal Iduna Park and finish it already.
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December 23, 2021, 01:59:03 PM
I personally don't think Barcelona need a new striker, but if Barcelona can sign a new experienced striker then that's fine too. For me, the problem is with the coach,
At first you didn't think Barcelona needed an experienced striker. Do you think Dembele, Coutinho, Fati, Braithwait and Depay are experienced players? They are irregular players and have been injured for most of the season. Attacks on such players cannot be relied upon. Secondly, you are looking for an experienced coach.
Exactly, the problems faced by Barcelona are complex, these include players, tactics, maybe coach (although Xavi is actually not a bad choice for this club, but he is  starting right now in this very And situation) so he must do very high effort to rise up Barcelona again. Not only about those, but also the management in the club itself including some financial reasons that may limit the club to sign some certain very potential players for the club.

Btw, it's still around 2 months to prepare for the next matches in this UEFA Europa League, and some teams may use that time to prepare it more significantly, although they are also doing some other matches in other championships or league.


Right, because some clubs may not be preparing for the european league at all, only if a couple of weeks before it. After the new year there is a pause in some championships, some will train, some will not, I've never been interested in that (who trains and who does not). But I think if a club performs well in their league, they don't need thorough training, they will essentially be in good shape.
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December 23, 2021, 12:47:09 PM
Dortmund are losing their title chance in the Bundesliga little by little every week. They still would be able to qualify for the Champions League easily though but maybe they would start focusing on the Europa League more to at least win a title this season. And this would lead them to demolish Rangers in their matchup. This would be a great start and they would threaten the other teams like this also.
Right now the chance for dormund to win the bundesliga title is almost impossible, as well as the champion league trophy,  their chances of winning the champion have been tightly closed, but currently dortmund still have two competitive titles that they might be able to win, one of which is the DFB trophy which may be relatively easy for them to get, while for the european league cup, i'm a little doubtful if dortmund can get it, because even though the UEFA league is the european league second caste competition, but still there will be tough competition in the match and now some big teams like barcelona, ​​napoli, atlanta and PSV of course also target to be able to get a trophy.

The Dortmund team should now aim for the Europa League title. If Haaland decides to stay in Dortmund without changing teams in the winter transfer window. Then Dortmund might win the Europa League title. Because I think Barcelona, ​​Napoli and Atlanta are the strongest teams here. Napoli or Barcelona will be eliminated in the first round. Moreover, Napoli and Barcelona are not in a good position now. So I think the Atlanta team is the only strong opponent of the Dortmund team. If Dortmund can perform well against Atalanta. Then maybe they can win the title.
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December 23, 2021, 12:29:20 PM
Dortmund are losing their title chance in the Bundesliga little by little every week. They still would be able to qualify for the Champions League easily though but maybe they would start focusing on the Europa League more to at least win a title this season. And this would lead them to demolish Rangers in their matchup. This would be a great start and they would threaten the other teams like this also.
Right now the chance for dormund to win the bundesliga title is almost impossible, as well as the champion league trophy,  their chances of winning the champion have been tightly closed, but currently dortmund still have two competitive titles that they might be able to win, one of which is the DFB trophy which may be relatively easy for them to get, while for the european league cup, i'm a little doubtful if dortmund can get it, because even though the UEFA league is the european league second caste competition, but still there will be tough competition in the match and now some big teams like barcelona, ​​napoli, atlanta and PSV of course also target to be able to get a trophy.
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December 23, 2021, 12:10:18 PM
The result of the match was little bit surprising because I think that Sevilla is better and has more chance to win. But in fact on the field, everything can happen as what Barcelona shown in that match. Barcelona really played very well,  moreover after Sevilla got one red card, this really gave influence that the club cannot score again.
It is hopefully that Barcelona will exactly sign Haaland, but it may be difficult because of the financial. But, really hopefully it can be,  this cub exactly needs something bigger to rise up again.

Sevilla is indeed better now, but that does not mean it has to win 10 out of 10 matches against Barcelona. Let's say the spread of results can be as follows: 4 wins, 2 losses and 4 draws. Obviously the team with 4 wins is better, but they only win 40% of the time. Therefore, when we place bets, we must take into account this spread and think about earning only at a distance and not in a particular match on which everything depends.
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December 23, 2021, 05:18:22 AM
Dortmund are losing their title chance in the Bundesliga little by little every week. They still would be able to qualify for the Champions League easily though but maybe they would start focusing on the Europa League more to at least win a title this season. And this would lead them to demolish Rangers in their matchup. This would be a great start and they would threaten the other teams like this also.
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December 23, 2021, 05:15:43 AM
The result of the match was little bit surprising because I think that Sevilla is better and has more chance to win. But in fact on the field, everything can happen as what Barcelona shown in that match. Barcelona really played very well,  moreover after Sevilla got one red card, this really gave influence that the club cannot score again.
It is hopefully that Barcelona will exactly sign Haaland, but it may be difficult because of the financial. But, really hopefully it can be,  this cub exactly needs something bigger to rise up again.

I don't think anyone can question the quality of Barcelona's players, and they've been playing well. The problem is that it seems that they don't know what to do when they reach certain areas of the field, and then they start to get desperate because they don't score. And that doesn't help.
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December 22, 2021, 06:40:46 PM
I saw Barcelona's performance in La Liga against Sevilla today. The Barcelona guys played excellent. The finishing was disgusting. Barcelona had an easy chance to score several goals today. If the finisher was good, Barcelona could have won today's match. If Xavi doesn't get a new striker, I don't expect him to do well in the Europa League. Barcelona management may try to sign Haaland in the team.
The result of the match was little bit surprising because I think that Sevilla is better and has more chance to win. But in fact on the field, everything can happen as what Barcelona shown in that match. Barcelona really played very well,  moreover after Sevilla got one red card, this really gave influence that the club cannot score again.
It is hopefully that Barcelona will exactly sign Haaland, but it may be difficult because of the financial. But, really hopefully it can be,  this cub exactly needs something bigger to rise up again.
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