UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 171.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 17, 2021, 07:55:26 AM

I myself expected it but it seems this variant of the omicron is more vicious than imagined.
If we look at there are several in the EPL team who are indeed affected by this virus and the worst thing now is Tottenham Hotspur.
In addition, other domestic leagues cannot be calm because there are indeed several teams in other top leagues who are affected by this.

What I've been wondering all this time is how can a new virus variant develop quite rapidly, even though it can be said that many countries in the world are still implementing very strict health protocols for the community?
I hope that what happened to the players and staff of tottenham and other clubs can be resolved soon, because if this new variant of the virus spreads widely, of course this season we will see the competition stop, so far football clubs have implemented health protocols and of course this needs to be returned improved so that no more players or staff are infected with the virus.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 17, 2021, 07:55:26 AM

I myself expected it but it seems this variant of the omicron is more vicious than imagined.
If we look at there are several in the EPL team who are indeed affected by this virus and the worst thing now is Tottenham Hotspur.
In addition, other domestic leagues cannot be calm because there are indeed several teams in other top leagues who are affected by this.

I think the problem is not so much this new variant, but the attitude that many countries, like the UK, had towards Covid. They started acting as if the pandemic no longer existed, and this is the result. They lowered their "guard" and are now suffering these consequences.

Either way this is not just a problem in EPL. Championships from other countries are also seeing several clubs with a large number of infected.

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Quote from: Joca97 on December 17, 2021, 07:30:11 AM

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Quote from: Kusman on December 16, 2021, 06:20:58 PM

Covid-19 started taking control of football again. There are already some players who are trying to get well because of getting covid-19. And there are so many matches currently to be postponed. I wonder if the situation can be under control until the European tournaments continue from they left. Otherwise, we could see many games to be postponed in the Europa League and the other big tournaments also.

In particular, regions in European countries returned with quite worrying impacts and hampered the course of matches which had been postponed several times due to the peak condition of Covid 19. In fact, if you look at this, this is the most ideal season to return to playing matches. Because in 2020 it has been delayed and our time has to go back to having a bad mood.

Covid problem will continue to be a problem not only in sports but in the world. Everytime a new covid comes and just effects the world. I think before the playoffs starts its gone a calm down and we will see not many players infected so i think we will have the second part of the tournaments finish without any problems

I myself expected it but it seems this variant of the omicron is more vicious than imagined.
If we look at there are several in the EPL team who are indeed affected by this virus and the worst thing now is Tottenham Hotspur.
In addition, other domestic leagues cannot be calm because there are indeed several teams in other top leagues who are affected by this.

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Quote from: maju69 on December 17, 2021, 07:18:38 AM

Quote from: Kusman on December 16, 2021, 06:20:58 PM

Covid-19 started taking control of football again. There are already some players who are trying to get well because of getting covid-19. And there are so many matches currently to be postponed. I wonder if the situation can be under control until the European tournaments continue from they left. Otherwise, we could see many games to be postponed in the Europa League and the other big tournaments also.

In particular, regions in European countries returned with quite worrying impacts and hampered the course of matches which had been postponed several times due to the peak condition of Covid 19. In fact, if you look at this, this is the most ideal season to return to playing matches. Because in 2020 it has been delayed and our time has to go back to having a bad mood.

Covid problem will continue to be a problem not only in sports but in the world. Everytime a new covid comes and just effects the world. I think before the playoffs starts its gone a calm down and we will see not many players infected so i think we will have the second part of the tournaments finish without any problems

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Quote from: Kusman on December 16, 2021, 06:20:58 PM

Covid-19 started taking control of football again. There are already some players who are trying to get well because of getting covid-19. And there are so many matches currently to be postponed. I wonder if the situation can be under control until the European tournaments continue from they left. Otherwise, we could see many games to be postponed in the Europa League and the other big tournaments also.

In particular, regions in European countries returned with quite worrying impacts and hampered the course of matches which had been postponed several times due to the peak condition of Covid 19. In fact, if you look at this, this is the most ideal season to return to playing matches. Because in 2020 it has been delayed and our time has to go back to having a bad mood.

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Quote from: rmhuntley on December 16, 2021, 08:34:29 PM

Quote from: Kusman on December 16, 2021, 06:20:58 PM

Covid-19 started taking control of football again. There are already some players who are trying to get well because of getting covid-19. And there are so many matches currently to be postponed. I wonder if the situation can be under control until the European tournaments continue from they left. Otherwise, we could see many games to be postponed in the Europa League and the other big tournaments also.

Just happening with domestic league because they running on every week and now most impact with many match postponed, primer league have three match have postponed because their player got covid 19 and I hope champion league or Europe League can running well because begin next stage on February, still have two months and hope covid 19 could be gone forever.

That is the hope of all of us but we will not know how long this surge of covid19 will last, the UEL and UCL tournaments will return in the second month of next year and of course there is still time for them to overcome this problem. But if I see that at least there are leagues that are running normally at the moment, maybe they will be able to deal with it quickly so that this tournament will continue to run normally. If until this UEL event there are still impacts caused by covid19, then of course it will make all match schedules postponed due to problems that have not been resolved and are increasing.

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Quote from: Kusman on December 16, 2021, 06:20:58 PM

Covid-19 started taking control of football again. There are already some players who are trying to get well because of getting covid-19. And there are so many matches currently to be postponed. I wonder if the situation can be under control until the European tournaments continue from they left. Otherwise, we could see many games to be postponed in the Europa League and the other big tournaments also.

Just happening with domestic league because they running on every week and now most impact with many match postponed, primer league have three match have postponed because their player got covid 19 and I hope champion league or Europe League can running well because begin next stage on February, still have two months and hope covid 19 could be gone forever.

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Covid-19 started taking control of football again. There are already some players who are trying to get well because of getting covid-19. And there are so many matches currently to be postponed. I wonder if the situation can be under control until the European tournaments continue from they left. Otherwise, we could see many games to be postponed in the Europa League and the other big tournaments also.

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Quote from: Distraction on December 16, 2021, 04:43:30 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 16, 2021, 12:12:22 PM

I also do not find this application correct. Teams eliminated from the Champions League should not go to the Europa League. Teams eliminated from the European league should not go to the Conference league either. I think every trophy should continue in its own lane. As such, the chances and financial conditions of strong teams from the Champions League are higher than the clubs that have participated in the Europa League from the very beginning.

I also think the same. It would be better for each tournament if there was no such rule. The eliminated teams at the third and the last place should just be eliminated permanently from all of the European tournaments for that season. Thanks to this, every European tournament would keep its quality at a particular level and it would be better to watch the matches. It is really unfair for the Europa League teams to have matchups with stronger teams that come from the Champions League.

agree with your what benefit team have third position on champion league standing group have eliminate and play on Europe league? I think UEFA is looking much money because many bigger team on third position will give good feedback for Europe league competition. Now have Barcelona, Dortmund and Napoli as team have good reputation and will make Europe league looks interested.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 16, 2021, 12:12:22 PM

I also do not find this application correct. Teams eliminated from the Champions League should not go to the Europa League. Teams eliminated from the European league should not go to the Conference league either. I think every trophy should continue in its own lane. As such, the chances and financial conditions of strong teams from the Champions League are higher than the clubs that have participated in the Europa League from the very beginning.

I also think the same. It would be better for each tournament if there was no such rule. The eliminated teams at the third and the last place should just be eliminated permanently from all of the European tournaments for that season. Thanks to this, every European tournament would keep its quality at a particular level and it would be better to watch the matches. It is really unfair for the Europa League teams to have matchups with stronger teams that come from the Champions League.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 16, 2021, 12:12:22 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 16, 2021, 12:07:21 PM

It would be absurd (and quite unfair to the clubs that participate in the Europa League from the group stage) if the clubs eliminated from the Champions League take their places in the tournament and we will see competition among the Champions League losers from the quarter-finals stage. And when I look at the pairs that came out of the draw, I am sure that most of the clubs from the Champions League will make it to the round of 16.

I also do not find this application correct. Teams eliminated from the Champions League should not go to the Europa League. Teams eliminated from the European league should not go to the Conference league either. I think every trophy should continue in its own lane. As such, the chances and financial conditions of strong teams from the Champions League are higher than the clubs that have participated in the Europa League from the very beginning.

Plus, I think any fan wants simple formats like: the team wins - goes forward. When I start to figure out what happens to the clubs after the group stages and how they start to shuffle between the Europa League and the Conference League, my head boils. Absolutely stupid rules allow you to start a competition in one tournament and end it in another.

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Dortmund are another team that have a big claim on the title of the Europa League. But I wonder whether they will show this by an action like finishing Rangers off with a huge score in the first match of the draw already. Because if they play fully focusedly, Rangers will have nowhere to run undoubtedly. They already have a very low probability for eliminating Dortmund though.

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Quote from: baeva on December 16, 2021, 02:48:01 PM

I'm not used to seeing Barcelona in the european league, but it is what it is. In principle they have about two months to prepare for the match, maybe something will work out with a new coach, but we have to look closer to the case will be. So far I still see it as a favorite, despite the relatively good form of Napoli.

everything is still possible, now it's up to the players and their new coach whether they really want to do a little extra to be able to at least make up for the losses when they lose and get knocked out in the UCL.
because indeed 2 months can be used as a turning point and they will definitely look more different with the addition of players who do have to rest because of the injury storm

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 16, 2021, 10:04:34 AM

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Especially the Barcelona - Napoli draw makes me excited more. There is around a two-month time period until the first games to start. This is a long enough time period for Barcelona to pull themselves together I suppose. Xavi needs to work really hard with the players and get them ready for the Europa League games also. But if they only focus on La Liga, then Napoli would do the same Benfica did to Barcelona in the group stage. Grin

If the match held in next few weeks i guess we have the winner already between barcelona vs napoli right? Grin

luckily there is sufficient time for barcelona to improve everything and get a title of the season at least rather than nothing .. as mathematically barcelona are out of la liga title race and this is one of the prestigious one that they could reach.
interesting draw though. i just wish sheriff tiraspol could bring us some entertainment through their unexpected crazy on fire performance.

Yeah, Napoli would have been the winner if the game was held on a near date. Grin

Barcelona have a very low chance for the La Liga title even while mathematically speaking. There is already a 18-point gap with the leader. They wouldn't stop caring about their domestic league of course but they would fight for ending the season at a decent position at least. And their main focus could even be the Europa League if they don't start increasing their form in the La Liga until the Napoli game.

I'm not used to seeing Barcelona in the european league, but it is what it is. In principle they have about two months to prepare for the match, maybe something will work out with a new coach, but we have to look closer to the case will be. So far I still see it as a favorite, despite the relatively good form of Napoli.

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Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 16, 2021, 10:19:08 AM

I agree with you. Dortmund may want to finish their work in the first leg already. And we could really see them doing it by a big score difference. Rangers are one of the best teams of the Scottish Premier League. But there are not many strong clubs there so it is totally normal. Dortmund are a world-class team compared to them and they shouldn't give any chance to Rangers in this.

I would be very surprised if Rangers manage to get a tie against Dortmund. Dortmund are a very strong team compared to Rangers. Of course the Rangers will fight and try to surprise, but I have some doubts that they will be able to do it.

Ever since Gerrard left Rangers they arent playing that good but still manage to win.I think Dortmund is an aposolute favorite in this match and i dont have any doubt they will lose to Rangers. Rangers chance is at home in front of their crowd to try and grab a win.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 16, 2021, 12:07:21 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 16, 2021, 09:44:03 AM

There are matches like the champions league. Barcelona-Napoli matchup is such a match. In addition, the Lazio-Porto match can be played at a high level. The teams that finished first in their group and the winners of these matches will play in other matches. Leading teams are their groups; Lyon, Monaco, Spartak Moscow, Eintracht Frankfurt, Galatasaray, Red Star, Bayer Leverkusen and West Ham. There will be very competitive matches.

It would be absurd (and quite unfair to the clubs that participate in the Europa League from the group stage) if the clubs eliminated from the Champions League take their places in the tournament and we will see competition among the Champions League losers from the quarter-finals stage. And when I look at the pairs that came out of the draw, I am sure that most of the clubs from the Champions League will make it to the round of 16.

I also do not find this application correct. Teams eliminated from the Champions League should not go to the Europa League. Teams eliminated from the European league should not go to the Conference league either. I think every trophy should continue in its own lane. As such, the chances and financial conditions of strong teams from the Champions League are higher than the clubs that have participated in the Europa League from the very beginning.

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Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 16, 2021, 10:19:08 AM

I agree with you. Dortmund may want to finish their work in the first leg already. And we could really see them doing it by a big score difference. Rangers are one of the best teams of the Scottish Premier League. But there are not many strong clubs there so it is totally normal. Dortmund are a world-class team compared to them and they shouldn't give any chance to Rangers in this.

I would be very surprised if Rangers manage to get a tie against Dortmund. Dortmund are a very strong team compared to Rangers. Of course the Rangers will fight and try to surprise, but I have some doubts that they will be able to do it.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on December 16, 2021, 09:44:03 AM

There are matches like the champions league. Barcelona-Napoli matchup is such a match. In addition, the Lazio-Porto match can be played at a high level. The teams that finished first in their group and the winners of these matches will play in other matches. Leading teams are their groups; Lyon, Monaco, Spartak Moscow, Eintracht Frankfurt, Galatasaray, Red Star, Bayer Leverkusen and West Ham. There will be very competitive matches.

It would be absurd (and quite unfair to the clubs that participate in the Europa League from the group stage) if the clubs eliminated from the Champions League take their places in the tournament and we will see competition among the Champions League losers from the quarter-finals stage. And when I look at the pairs that came out of the draw, I am sure that most of the clubs from the Champions League will make it to the round of 16.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 15, 2021, 10:14:06 AM

Quote from: ElmasKafa on December 14, 2021, 07:06:46 AM

Dortmund - Rangers draw can also be an enjoyable one for us. Because these teams both are productive teams especially in their domestic leagues. And I expect the game in Signal Iduna Park especially to be superb. Dortmund are going to be the highly favourite club here in both games but surprising things can happen any time. For example, Dortmund's being eliminated from the Champions League was a big surprise.

Given the fact that Borussia has no motives to save energy (and this season it plays in an ultimatum attacking style), we can expect some absurd results here like 6-2 or something like that. I will wait for the bookmakers to make quotes on the total in this pair and think about placing a bet if the odds match my assumptions.

I agree with you. Dortmund may want to finish their work in the first leg already. And we could really see them doing it by a big score difference. Rangers are one of the best teams of the Scottish Premier League. But there are not many strong clubs there so it is totally normal. Dortmund are a world-class team compared to them and they shouldn't give any chance to Rangers in this.

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Quote from: skscengeng on December 16, 2021, 10:04:34 AM

Yeah, Napoli would have been the winner if the game was held on a near date. Grin

Barcelona have a very low chance for the La Liga title even while mathematically speaking. There is already a 18-point gap with the leader. They wouldn't stop caring about their domestic league of course but they would fight for ending the season at a decent position at least. And their main focus could even be the Europa League if they don't start increasing their form in the La Liga until the Napoli game.

Although Napoli can be considered a favorite, European competitions are very different from domestic ones. I'm not saying that Barcelona is the mighty Barca and for sure Napoli can be in the next round. However, their last games are not good and had bad results. Plus that it seems that they can't handle the pressure of favorite. So, we must be cautious regarding who is going to qualify...

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