UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread - page 239.

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Quote from: slapper on May 09, 2021, 01:52:34 PM

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Yeah, I guess Arsenal disappointed a lot of people last night. Even Villareal probably did, scoreless semifinals are not the most exciting thing in football.

That includes me. I hope the arsenal can win at home. They seemed unlucky, two kicks always hit the goalpost. It was painful to prove by Unai Emery that he was a former arsenal coach. Arsenal took it wrong. Unfortunately with this failure they will not compete in Europe next season.

Ever since Arsene Wenger had left Arsenal, I don't see any improvement in the team, imagine such a massive decline to the extent of not playing in any European tournament next season, Arteta needs to be sack, alot of us were disappointed yesterday with Villarreal results, Arsenal has lost a lot of home games this season, Wenger squad was not this strong and they still qualify for champions league spot, Arsenal needs an experience coach, Allegri won't be a bad option to redeem the image of the club

Arsenal is always like that. Their playstyle does not change at all whether it is managed by Arsene Wenger or Arteta. Other teams are getting stronger and Premier league is becoming tougher and more competitive than ever. Do not blame Arteta so much. He needs time to improve and find an adaptive formula for a whole squad. Remember that Wenger has more than 20 years with Arsenal

I saw Arsenal playing style was very different when Wenger was Arsenal coach compared to now when Arteta was coach. Arteta plays too carefully
and passes more to the defense, then the player's distance is too far, so it's very easy to be hit by counter-attacks. It is only natural that Arsenal
fans end up blaming Arteta, because in my opinion Arteta always uses the same strategy, although this proved unsuccessful. Actually Arteta could
have been given the opportunity to coach Arsenal for one more season, but provided that Arteta is given a lot of money to buy some of the star
players. But this is impossible for Stan Kroenke, who has never made an injection of personal funds to help Arsenal financially. Even Kroenke was
rated as cruel for allowing 55 Arsenal staff to be fired due to the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic. So the best solution in my opinion is still to
fire Arteta and look for other coaches who can take advantage of existing Arsenal players.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on May 09, 2021, 02:36:29 AM

Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid need to find a way to settle the dispute or they could face huge legal and reputational backlashes. The project is over why are they trying to keep it alive? I don't get it really.
This story's gonna have huge consequences.
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/juventus-real-madrid-and-barcelona-refuse-to-back-down-over-super-league-slam-uefa-as-other-clubs-reach-deal/

I believe the Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid obligation to their club stakeholders and fans is what hindering them from taking the next step to settle the dispute between them and the UEFA but with the rule of law and Tribunals have already ruled in favour of the Super League proposal which was said to lead to the ban of the clubs from the Champions League and other UEFA competitions they settle the issue as soon as possible.

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Quote from: slapper on May 09, 2021, 01:52:34 PM

Quote from: FlamingFingers on May 07, 2021, 03:09:25 PM

Quote from: Luzin on May 07, 2021, 07:27:42 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on May 07, 2021, 02:43:36 AM

Yeah, I guess Arsenal disappointed a lot of people last night. Even Villareal probably did, scoreless semifinals are not the most exciting thing in football.

That includes me. I hope the arsenal can win at home. They seemed unlucky, two kicks always hit the goalpost. It was painful to prove by Unai Emery that he was a former arsenal coach. Arsenal took it wrong. Unfortunately with this failure they will not compete in Europe next season.

Ever since Arsene Wenger had left Arsenal, I don't see any improvement in the team, imagine such a massive decline to the extent of not playing in any European tournament next season, Arteta needs to be sack, alot of us were disappointed yesterday with Villarreal results, Arsenal has lost a lot of home games this season, Wenger squad was not this strong and they still qualify for champions league spot, Arsenal needs an experience coach, Allegri won't be a bad option to redeem the image of the club

Arsenal is always like that. Their playstyle does not change at all whether it is managed by Arsene Wenger or Arteta. Other teams are getting stronger and Premier league is becoming tougher and more competitive than ever. Do not blame Arteta so much. He needs time to improve and find an adaptive formula for a whole squad. Remember that Wenger has more than 20 years with Arsenal

True but Arsenal's team isn't as strong as they used to be several years ago. They are a bit more than average I would say, but far from being able to compete with the best of the best. On a good day they could beat good teams, but I don't see them making it to the top anytime soon.

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Quote from: slapper on May 09, 2021, 01:52:34 PM

Arsenal is always like that. Their playstyle does not change at all whether it is managed by Arsene Wenger or Arteta. Other teams are getting stronger and Premier league is becoming tougher and more competitive than ever. Do not blame Arteta so much. He needs time to improve and find an adaptive formula for a whole squad. Remember that Wenger has more than 20 years with Arsenal

I agree, that after 20 years with an idea, it is difficult for the whole structure to change in a short time.
They cannot enter, where they have to change coaches every season, they have to define a new strategy and try to follow it in the best possible way.

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Quote from: FlamingFingers on May 07, 2021, 03:09:25 PM

Quote from: Luzin on May 07, 2021, 07:27:42 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on May 07, 2021, 02:43:36 AM

Yeah, I guess Arsenal disappointed a lot of people last night. Even Villareal probably did, scoreless semifinals are not the most exciting thing in football.

That includes me. I hope the arsenal can win at home. They seemed unlucky, two kicks always hit the goalpost. It was painful to prove by Unai Emery that he was a former arsenal coach. Arsenal took it wrong. Unfortunately with this failure they will not compete in Europe next season.

Ever since Arsene Wenger had left Arsenal, I don't see any improvement in the team, imagine such a massive decline to the extent of not playing in any European tournament next season, Arteta needs to be sack, alot of us were disappointed yesterday with Villarreal results, Arsenal has lost a lot of home games this season, Wenger squad was not this strong and they still qualify for champions league spot, Arsenal needs an experience coach, Allegri won't be a bad option to redeem the image of the club

Arsenal is always like that. Their playstyle does not change at all whether it is managed by Arsene Wenger or Arteta. Other teams are getting stronger and Premier league is becoming tougher and more competitive than ever. Do not blame Arteta so much. He needs time to improve and find an adaptive formula for a whole squad. Remember that Wenger has more than 20 years with Arsenal

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Weak game by Arsenal, you have to give more at home if you want to advance to the final. Interesting final with Manchester and Villareal, but I think Manchester will win the final.

Yes, I was expecting British clubs to dominate this tournament in the final also but Villarreal really surprised me with their solid performance. Villarreal will try to take Manchester Utd by surprise in the final game. Unless Manchester Utd make simple mistakes, I also think they would win it and reach the title.

Unexpectedly, Villarreal managed to rise to the top European party for the first time in the club's history and was able to beat Arsenal who had the opportunity to turn things around when they lost 2-1 in the first leg. and in the second leg Villarreal was able to withstand a draw which made him qualify for the final to meet Man United.
and in several meetings between Villarreal and Man United there are always no goals, therefore who will win the first win between Man Unute vs Villarreal, let's wait for the Europa League final which will take place on May 27 at the Energa Stadium in Poland.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 09, 2021, 03:15:44 AM

Weak game by Arsenal, you have to give more at home if you want to advance to the final. Interesting final with Manchester and Villareal, but I think Manchester will win the final.

Yes, I was expecting British clubs to dominate this tournament in the final also but Villarreal really surprised me with their solid performance. Villarreal will try to take Manchester Utd by surprise in the final game. Unless Manchester Utd make simple mistakes, I also think they would win it and reach the title.

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The Arsenal second leg game result proves me wrong when Saint-loup said the Villarreal than Arsenal this season but honestly the Gunners really mess up big time because they played to defense the game when Villarreal was at home and nothing should stop in the second leg to use home advantage against Villareal.

Honestly I did not expected Villareal to beat Arsenal and go to finals, Arsenal looked like a sure thing to me because they looked like the better team on paper, but apparently they are not and that is why it is certainly something interesting to watch.

I am not saying that Villareal has no chance now, but United is a much much better team, sure Arsenal looked better on paper as well and Villareal still managed to beat them, hence I could understand all the people that say "let's wait and see" but this is an easy bet for me, if I end up losing this one, I wouldn't feel bad about it because 90%+ of people will bet on United for this game for sure without a doubt. However I would love to leverage my bet and I would probably say it will be under 2.5 goals for that game, that way I do not have to know who will win and finals are "usually" not that high scoring.

Arsenal are its limits and cannot go beyond them .
The team needs names that know how to enter a match and they only need one goal.

I missed watching the game and I only check the game result which was so disappointing but I don't understand what you mean by Arsenal reaching a certain limit and cannot go beyond because history shows that Villarreal never defeat Arsenal before the way they did this season?

Quote from: DIA7 on May 07, 2021, 11:20:45 PM

Leave the result and exclusion, I care about desire and persistence .. What did the gunners do in order to qualify ?! .
This is the problem of teams that do not have a titular character, no matter how tactical you master it, you will be deceived by willpower and say it.
my question now is why Arsenal have left the European Super League as they are not going to be playing any European football next season and propably the seasons that will come after because with those players that they are relaying on it will only make them sleepwalking towards disaster.

You're right about the team being sleepwalking but I believe their loss to Villarreal will serve as a warning and a lot of their fans will show how they are unsatisfied with their performance.

Failed on UEFA Europa League Arsenal become the first time without participant on UEFA Europa League or champion league for the first time, I think management have looking for new coach and retired for Arteta have failed not only in primer league but also not give anything good for UEFA Europa League, I think the same what happen with Uney Emery after failed with Arsenal and have left his position as Arsenal coach.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on May 09, 2021, 03:15:44 AM

Weak game by Arsenal, you have to give more at home if you want to advance to the final. Interesting final with Manchester and Villareal, but I think Manchester will win the final.

Yes, it will be one of the interesting finals to be played on May 26. But I think that Villarreal deserved to be here also. They defended really well against Arsenal in the second leg and maintained the aggregate. First of all, Manchester Utd should be very careful about them. This is the final match in the end and I don't assume they will underestimate Villarreal. And I assume Villarreal will have a gameplay which composes of patience and defense. They will want to wear Manchester Utd out. But in the end, I believe that Manchester Utd can manage to win the title.

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Weak game by Arsenal, you have to give more at home if you want to advance to the final. Interesting final with Manchester and Villareal, but I think Manchester will win the final.

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Juventus, Barcelona and Real Madrid need to find a way to settle the dispute or they could face huge legal and reputational backlashes. The project is over why are they trying to keep it alive? I don't get it really.
This story's gonna have huge consequences.
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/juventus-real-madrid-and-barcelona-refuse-to-back-down-over-super-league-slam-uefa-as-other-clubs-reach-deal/

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Quote from: DIA7 on May 07, 2021, 11:20:45 PM

Quote from: jostorres on May 07, 2021, 04:10:15 PM

Quote from: hulla on May 07, 2021, 02:43:35 PM

The Arsenal second leg game result proves me wrong when Saint-loup said the Villarreal than Arsenal this season but honestly the Gunners really mess up big time because they played to defense the game when Villarreal was at home and nothing should stop in the second leg to use home advantage against Villareal.

Honestly I did not expected Villareal to beat Arsenal and go to finals, Arsenal looked like a sure thing to me because they looked like the better team on paper, but apparently they are not and that is why it is certainly something interesting to watch.

I am not saying that Villareal has no chance now, but United is a much much better team, sure Arsenal looked better on paper as well and Villareal still managed to beat them, hence I could understand all the people that say "let's wait and see" but this is an easy bet for me, if I end up losing this one, I wouldn't feel bad about it because 90%+ of people will bet on United for this game for sure without a doubt. However I would love to leverage my bet and I would probably say it will be under 2.5 goals for that game, that way I do not have to know who will win and finals are "usually" not that high scoring.

Arsenal are its limits and cannot go beyond them .
The team needs names that know how to enter a match and they only need one goal.

I missed watching the game and I only check the game result which was so disappointing but I don't understand what you mean by Arsenal reaching a certain limit and cannot go beyond because history shows that Villarreal never defeat Arsenal before the way they did this season?

Quote from: DIA7 on May 07, 2021, 11:20:45 PM

Leave the result and exclusion, I care about desire and persistence .. What did the gunners do in order to qualify ?! .
This is the problem of teams that do not have a titular character, no matter how tactical you master it, you will be deceived by willpower and say it.
my question now is why Arsenal have left the European Super League as they are not going to be playing any European football next season and propably the seasons that will come after because with those players that they are relaying on it will only make them sleepwalking towards disaster.

You're right about the team being sleepwalking but I believe their loss to Villarreal will serve as a warning and a lot of their fans will show how they are unsatisfied with their performance.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on May 08, 2021, 02:00:09 PM

Superleague, news from spain Spain: "Juve, Real and Barça out of the European cups for two seasons".
Cadena Cope claims that the measure has already been decided and will be made official after the Champions League final.
The Spanish broadcaster Cadena Cope has made a sensational rumour about the Superleague case: Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona would be excluded from the European cups for the next two seasons.
Is that gonna happen?

I think not out as participants in EUFA league but also their commission will deduct more than 5% each year, I think very bad ideas giving by UEFA president, without third club Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus UEFA is nothing. I think have many club support what did by Real Madrid president want to see transparent about financial and money in UEFA.

decisions like that are a little difficult to happen
considering they are a big team in their respective leagues
and if it is true that decision occurs, it is also a big loss for UEFA itself
considering they are a team that is a strong candidate for champions
especially for Barcelona themselves they have won the prestigious trophy 5X in the blue continent, while for Real Madrid there is no need to doubt their quality in the Champions League, because they are the most successful team on the blue continent with the many trophies they have won, and even more. The achievements they have achieved in the past few seasons cannot be matched by any club participating in the Champions League itself

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Quote from: Karartma1 on May 08, 2021, 02:00:09 PM

Superleague, news from spain Spain: "Juve, Real and Barça out of the European cups for two seasons".
Cadena Cope claims that the measure has already been decided and will be made official after the Champions League final.
The Spanish broadcaster Cadena Cope has made a sensational rumour about the Superleague case: Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona would be excluded from the European cups for the next two seasons.
Is that gonna happen?

I think not out as participants in EUFA league but also their commission will deduct more than 5% each year, I think very bad ideas giving by UEFA president, without third club Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus UEFA is nothing. I think have many club support what did by Real Madrid president want to see transparent about financial and money in UEFA.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on May 08, 2021, 02:00:09 PM

Superleague, news from spain Spain: "Juve, Real and Barça out of the European cups for two seasons".
Cadena Cope claims that the measure has already been decided and will be made official after the Champions League final.
The Spanish broadcaster Cadena Cope has made a sensational rumour about the Superleague case: Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona would be excluded from the European cups for the next two seasons.
Is that gonna happen?

I'm not sure it's friends ,, Europe's best team will be kicked out of UEFA, I don't think it will be possible, it's just a rumor and it will forever be a rumor ,, FIFA will suffer huge losses if you remove them``
The audience will decrease, the revenue will decrease, the broadcast rights will also decrease, I'm sure many people don't agree that Barca and Real Madrid were removed from UEFA ,, that will never happen ...

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Superleague, news from spain Spain: "Juve, Real and Barça out of the European cups for two seasons".
Cadena Cope claims that the measure has already been decided and will be made official after the Champions League final.
The Spanish broadcaster Cadena Cope has made a sensational rumour about the Superleague case: Juventus, Real Madrid and Barcelona would be excluded from the European cups for the next two seasons.
Is that gonna happen?

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Quote from: MAAManda on May 07, 2021, 04:14:31 PM

I really want Manchester United to be filled with world-class players who are still performing very well like Kylian Mbappe

I am happy if that happens because Mu is one of the favorite clubs, mbape is the dream player of all clubs including madrid, city and barca. There is a lot of news regarding Mbape's move. I don't know the transfer price but it will be very expensive for sure, he is young but has great technique.

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Quote from: masulum on May 07, 2021, 04:54:08 PM

I still don't believe MU can win the UEL this season. However, if this really happens it will be a big surprise for MU fans. Because since the beginning of the season many people have doubted Olle, seeing MU show us inconsistent appearance at the start of any league. If MU wins UEL, and in UCL, City also wins, the European trophy will be complete going Manchester.

Villareal has zero chances to win the Europa League, Manchester will prevail. Villareal arrived to the final having to face low to medium range teams (this year's Arsenal count as a medium one). This time is about winning versus a top team and they will succumb: I have placed my bet already.

We may feel confidence that a team will win but we should not underestimate the opponent. Saying that Villareal has zero chances to win is overconfidence. I do even believe that United's team, manager, and fans wont say like that. As it can be something really bad if they are underestimating their opponents. Final game is a crucial game, even team with no popular players may win against a team with many popular players and many trophies but the spirit of "nothing to lose" from the underdog team may change the game. Of course, United has better chance but it does not mean that there is no chances at all for Villareal. It is a soccer game and final game, anything may happen.

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Quote from: acquafredda on May 08, 2021, 06:36:14 AM

Villareal has zero chances to win the Europa League, Manchester will prevail. Villareal arrived to the final having to face low to medium range teams (this year's Arsenal count as a medium one). This time is about winning versus a top team and they will succumb: I have placed my bet already.

It's a final, and anything is possible, any team can win it and Villarreal is a decent side, they play good football and are 6th is the Spanish Laliga table, Manchester United haven't been fantastic this season, so I think Villarreal has a good chance to be Europa league champions. There is also an extra motivation for Villarreal since it's their only opportunity to get into the UCL next season if they win the Europa league, whilst United have already qualified for next seasons UCL via the EPL, notwithstanding it's going to be an entertaining contest.

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Quote from: masulum on May 07, 2021, 04:54:08 PM

I still don't believe MU can win the UEL this season. However, if this really happens it will be a big surprise for MU fans. Because since the beginning of the season many people have doubted Olle, seeing MU show us inconsistent appearance at the start of any league. If MU wins UEL, and in UCL, City also wins, the European trophy will be complete going Manchester.

Villareal has zero chances to win the Europa League, Manchester will prevail. Villareal arrived to the final having to face low to medium range teams (this year's Arsenal count as a medium one). This time is about winning versus a top team and they will succumb: I have placed my bet already.

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