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Quote from: joker_josue on May 21, 2021, 01:44:52 AM

Quote from: Luzin on May 20, 2021, 06:17:10 PM

The two teams are safe in their respective positions in the league, meaning that it is safe here that MU has entered the Champions League zone while their Villareal is in the Europa League zone, the second point will not be overtaken by the team below because only 1 league match remains. So I think it's natural that they would prepare their best players and rotate players for games in the league.

You are mistaken, with respect to Villarreal.
Villarreal still have the possibility of reaching sixth place and thus entering the Europa League, in the next season. For that they have to win and hope that Betis will lose.
The problem is that they will play against Real Madrid who also need to win, to try to win the championship. So it will be difficult for them to reach the sixth place that gives access to Europe.
We will see what the main objective will be. If you continue to fight for a place in the Europa League next season, or save all your strength for the final.

Villareal cant win in my opinion. So much team difference.

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Europa League winner odds

United head the Europa League outright betting at 8/15, with Villarreal at 7/2. Arsenal are third favourites at 4/1.

Manchester United @ 8/15
Villarreal @ 7/2
Arsenal @ 4/1
Roma @ 150/1

and these rates show the difference on teams

clearly anything can happen, but the percentages are very low in favor of Villareal
i hope only is a fun game

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Quote from: Welsh on May 21, 2021, 10:15:48 AM

Completely disagree with this. Manchester United will want silverware to boast about, and not only that silverware directly translates to more money. The more money the club generates the more likely they are to part with their money for players, and wages. Plus, as someone who has played at a relatively low level I still wanted to win every game regardless. They definitely won't be treating this as a friendly, and the players certainly won't. Its their legacy at the end of the day, and there's only a few games left of the season.

I was talking about the English league games. It is not by winning these last games that you will have more revenue. Its position in the league table, already defined, does not matter the results. Of course, they won't want to lose. But they also will not avoid wearing out unnecessarily, before the final. The focus now is on winning the Europa League!

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I said a while back that I would need to look at the team sheet before making a bet, but I believe Fred the main culprit I thought that was detrimental to that Manchester United team picked up an injury at the end of the last game I do believe. So, I'm actually a little bit more confident that United take this home. I just thought that Fred breaks up their fluid play, and against Liverpool he actually contributed more to the Liverpool attack than he did for any part of the game for United.

Quote from: joker_josue on May 20, 2021, 11:20:04 AM

Exactly. Man United have their place in the final standings guaranteed. You no longer have to fight for anything else in the championship. English teams are not fanatical about winning, the important thing is to win in the right games. I believe that Man United is looking at these last games, as training games, to study the best strategy for the UEFA final.

Villareal, on the other hand, must continue to fight to get a place in the Europa League for the next season.

We are talking about two different levels. The likelihood of Villarreal reaching the final against Man United with the most tired players is much greater.

Completely disagree with this. Manchester United will want silverware to boast about, and not only that silverware directly translates to more money. The more money the club generates the more likely they are to part with their money for players, and wages. Plus, as someone who has played at a relatively low level I still wanted to win every game regardless. They definitely won't be treating this as a friendly, and the players certainly won't. Its their legacy at the end of the day, and there's only a few games left of the season.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on May 21, 2021, 07:12:12 AM

Quote from: FatFork on May 20, 2021, 04:11:50 PM

This season Villarreal has played extremely well in Europe, so I feel that the bookmakers have underrated them somewhat by giving them odds between 4.5 and 5 to win. The quality of Manchester United's players puts them in a competitive advantage, but Villarreal's record in Europa League this season is impressive, with 12 wins and two draws from 14 games. In contrast, the Red Devils have struggled in defense in recent games. They obviously had problems without their captain.
It will be an interesting day on May 26. A number of factors point to a very exciting final, much more exciting than the odds suggest.

But United will get their captain back and we have to be fair to them, they had tougher opponents than Villareal (also not to mean disrespect to anyone). I will not even mention what happened to my Spurs team here who just completely blew their chances at a "weak" team of Dinamo Zagreb. But yes, 5x for Villa is a really nice odds to hit.

In top leagues like UEFA Europa League there are rarely weak teams, but I see your point. Btw, have you noticed how often an underdog has an advantage due to being underestimated by the opponent? Probably that's exactly what happened to Tottenham.

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Quote from: FatFork on May 20, 2021, 04:11:50 PM

This season Villarreal has played extremely well in Europe, so I feel that the bookmakers have underrated them somewhat by giving them odds between 4.5 and 5 to win. The quality of Manchester United's players puts them in a competitive advantage, but Villarreal's record in Europa League this season is impressive, with 12 wins and two draws from 14 games. In contrast, the Red Devils have struggled in defense in recent games. They obviously had problems without their captain.
It will be an interesting day on May 26. A number of factors point to a very exciting final, much more exciting than the odds suggest.

But United will get their captain back and we have to be fair to them, they had tougher opponents than Villareal (also not to mean disrespect to anyone). I will not even mention what happened to my Spurs team here who just completely blew their chances at a "weak" team of Dinamo Zagreb. But yes, 5x for Villa is a really nice odds to hit.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on May 20, 2021, 06:59:33 PM

Quote from: judas on May 20, 2021, 05:25:20 PM

Villarreal have a La Liga game on May 22 and Manchester Utd have an EPL game on May 23. As there is only a-few-day-gap between the league games and the final game, I think the teams will rotate their squads in their league games. They will want to make sure about not suffering an injury.

not just injuries, players can get really exhausted during the match, which can also cause some injuries, and the final is the most important one so they have to rest players in the league, also i think Villarreal have a chance to win the title even though its small.

In my opinion, both teams have an equal chance to win the title. Villarreal is a good enough team. I am disappointed in the performance of the last few matches of Manchester United. They have performed very poorly in the last few matches. They have to correct their own mistakes. And they have to play more attacking against Villarreal. Otherwise, I don't think they will win.

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Quote from: Luzin on May 20, 2021, 06:17:10 PM

The two teams are safe in their respective positions in the league, meaning that it is safe here that MU has entered the Champions League zone while their Villareal is in the Europa League zone, the second point will not be overtaken by the team below because only 1 league match remains. So I think it's natural that they would prepare their best players and rotate players for games in the league.

You are mistaken, with respect to Villarreal.
Villarreal still have the possibility of reaching sixth place and thus entering the Europa League, in the next season. For that they have to win and hope that Betis will lose.
The problem is that they will play against Real Madrid who also need to win, to try to win the championship. So it will be difficult for them to reach the sixth place that gives access to Europe.
We will see what the main objective will be. If you continue to fight for a place in the Europa League next season, or save all your strength for the final.

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Quote from: judas on May 20, 2021, 05:25:20 PM

Villarreal have a La Liga game on May 22 and Manchester Utd have an EPL game on May 23. As there is only a-few-day-gap between the league games and the final game, I think the teams will rotate their squads in their league games. They will want to make sure about not suffering an injury.

not just injuries, players can get really exhausted during the match, which can also cause some injuries, and the final is the most important one so they have to rest players in the league, also i think Villarreal have a chance to win the title even though its small.

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Quote from: judas on May 20, 2021, 05:25:20 PM

Villarreal have a La Liga game on May 22 and Manchester Utd have an EPL game on May 23. As there is only a-few-day-gap between the league games and the final game, I think the teams will rotate their squads in their league games. They will want to make sure about not suffering an injury.

The two teams are safe in their respective positions in the league, meaning that it is safe here that MU has entered the Champions League zone while their Villareal is in the Europa League zone, the second point will not be overtaken by the team below because only 1 league match remains. So I think it's natural that they would prepare their best players and rotate players for games in the league.

I hope the game ends in 90 minutes, with the win belonging to United. Villareal is not a bad team, the proof is that during the meeting with MU at UCL they always drew. MU must play seriously for 1 title this season. If this title is not obtained, management is obliged to evaluate OLE

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Villarreal have a La Liga game on May 22 and Manchester Utd have an EPL game on May 23. As there is only a-few-day-gap between the league games and the final game, I think the teams will rotate their squads in their league games. They will want to make sure about not suffering an injury.

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Quote from: hahay on May 20, 2021, 09:46:26 AM

For me this can no longer be used as a reference because their position in their respective leagues is very different, I think the successive wins from Villarreal are to make their position safer in the standings. Unlike Manchester United, I think that even though United didn't get a win in the previous 3 matches, the fact is United's position is still safe in second place. So, maybe United will be more focused for the Final match against Villarreal because even, if we look at the current odds, at least United are the favorites and I think that still makes sense.

Indeed, the games in the League cannot be used as a reference, I am aware of that. However, what we are discussing here is performance and preparation. Although MU made preparations, with "focus" on UEL, but by not performing optimally in the league, this could be an opportunity for Villareal to find the weaknesses of MU. Meanwhile, from a mental perspective, Villareal certainly has higher optimism, because if they win, this will be their first title in the history of their participation at UEL.

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Quote from: joker_josue on May 20, 2021, 11:20:04 AM

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We are talking about two different levels. The likelihood of Villarreal reaching the final against Man United with the most tired players is much greater.

This season Villarreal has played extremely well in Europe, so I feel that the bookmakers have underrated them somewhat by giving them odds between 4.5 and 5 to win. The quality of Manchester United's players puts them in a competitive advantage, but Villarreal's record in Europa League this season is impressive, with 12 wins and two draws from 14 games. In contrast, the Red Devils have struggled in defense in recent games. They obviously had problems without their captain.
It will be an interesting day on May 26. A number of factors point to a very exciting final, much more exciting than the odds suggest.

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Quote from: hahay on May 20, 2021, 09:46:26 AM

Quote from: masulum on May 20, 2021, 09:24:20 AM

If we are looking from their past performance, of course MU maybe have bad performance than Villareal. Yesterday, Villarial won 4-0 vs Sevilla and win 2-0 over Valladollid. From this results, Villareal players may have good confidence than MU players. But, MU still become a clubs that unpredictable, this is the best moment for them to stopped without any trophy from last few season. I think this will be good matches, My prediction the game ended with Penalty.

For me this can no longer be used as a reference because their position in their respective leagues is very different, I think the successive wins from Villarreal are to make their position safer in the standings. Unlike Manchester United, I think that even though United didn't get a win in the previous 3 matches, the fact is United's position is still safe in second place. So, maybe United will be more focused for the Final match against Villarreal because even, if we look at the current odds, at least United are the favorites and I think that still makes sense.

Exactly. Man United have their place in the final standings guaranteed. You no longer have to fight for anything else in the championship. English teams are not fanatical about winning, the important thing is to win in the right games. I believe that Man United is looking at these last games, as training games, to study the best strategy for the UEFA final.

Villareal, on the other hand, must continue to fight to get a place in the Europa League for the next season.

We are talking about two different levels. The likelihood of Villarreal reaching the final against Man United with the most tired players is much greater.

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Quote from: masulum on May 20, 2021, 09:24:20 AM

If we are looking from their past performance, of course MU maybe have bad performance than Villareal. Yesterday, Villarial won 4-0 vs Sevilla and win 2-0 over Valladollid. From this results, Villareal players may have good confidence than MU players. But, MU still become a clubs that unpredictable, this is the best moment for them to stopped without any trophy from last few season. I think this will be good matches, My prediction the game ended with Penalty.

For me this can no longer be used as a reference because their position in their respective leagues is very different, I think the successive wins from Villarreal are to make their position safer in the standings. Unlike Manchester United, I think that even though United didn't get a win in the previous 3 matches, the fact is United's position is still safe in second place. So, maybe United will be more focused for the Final match against Villarreal because even, if we look at the current odds, at least United are the favorites and I think that still makes sense.

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If we are looking from their past performance, of course MU maybe have bad performance than Villareal. Yesterday, Villarial won 4-0 vs Sevilla and win 2-0 over Valladollid. From this results, Villareal players may have good confidence than MU players. But, MU still become a clubs that unpredictable, this is the best moment for them to stopped without any trophy from last few season. I think this will be good matches, My prediction the game ended with Penalty.

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Quote from: Iranus on May 20, 2021, 08:24:08 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on May 20, 2021, 02:03:54 AM

In the last game that Man United played they had a fantastic performance. Beautiful goals and good understanding of the whole team. They are really fully prepared to beat Villareal in the final. I think the victory is practically guaranteed.

I don't understand, how do you think Manchester United are fully prepared to beat Villarreal? Manchester United have not won their last three matches. They conceded 4 goals against Liverpool. The last match was also drawn against a small team like Fluham. Manchester is completely unstable at the moment. They will not be able to win the Europa League title unless their performance improves.

@joker_josue, Have you guys really watch the past matches of Manchester United? I don't think so. Fulham is a very weak team. If we compare it with Manchester United. They didn't play well against Fulham. Manchester United has made 6 on target shots and Fulham has made 5 on target shots. To win against Villarreal, they must have a better performance.

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Quote from: joker_josue on May 20, 2021, 02:03:54 AM

In the last game that Man United played they had a fantastic performance. Beautiful goals and good understanding of the whole team. They are really fully prepared to beat Villareal in the final. I think the victory is practically guaranteed.

I don't understand, how do you think Manchester United are fully prepared to beat Villarreal? Manchester United have not won their last three matches. They conceded 4 goals against Liverpool. The last match was also drawn against a small team like Fluham. Manchester is completely unstable at the moment. They will not be able to win the Europa League title unless their performance improves.

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In the last game that Man United played they had a fantastic performance. Beautiful goals and good understanding of the whole team. They are really fully prepared to beat Villareal in the final. I think the victory is practically guaranteed.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on May 19, 2021, 09:15:17 PM

Quote from: Iranus on May 17, 2021, 11:42:54 AM

Villarreal is a good team. But the Manchester United team is much more stable than Villarreal. The Villarreal team will play fully defensively against Manchester. If they fail to make a counterattack, they will not be able to win the match by playing only defensive. Manchester United players have the ability to break Villarreal's defense.

They are at same level but Manchester United have more star players that can decide the final match. Bruno, Pogba, Cavani are most dangerous threats for Villareal.

The recent outstanding form from Cavani in Europa League (4 goals in semi final matches) and in Premier League bring more hope for Manchester United. I don't like Solsa but I think Manchester United have good chance to take the title. It would be a happy season for them and Cavani if the striker scores and help them to win that finale.

Cavani signed a new contract with the club and the finale will be a good show for him.

@SquirrelJulietGarden I too feel that Manchester United can win this finale, and hence I have wagered a big amount of my life’s saving on them. However I do fear that Maguire absence can hurt them, but I yet hope that they can survive Villareal attack and go on to win the finale.

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Quote from: Iranus on May 17, 2021, 11:42:54 AM

Villarreal is a good team. But the Manchester United team is much more stable than Villarreal. The Villarreal team will play fully defensively against Manchester. If they fail to make a counterattack, they will not be able to win the match by playing only defensive. Manchester United players have the ability to break Villarreal's defense.

They are at same level but Manchester United have more star players that can decide the final match. Bruno, Pogba, Cavani are most dangerous threats for Villareal.

The recent outstanding form from Cavani in Europa League (4 goals in semi final matches) and in Premier League bring more hope for Manchester United. I don't like Solsa but I think Manchester United have good chance to take the title. It would be a happy season for them and Cavani if the striker scores and help them to win that finale.

Cavani signed a new contract with the club and the finale will be a good show for him.

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