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Quote from: freeyourmind on June 02, 2017, 06:19:42 PM

I'm torn between who to choose between Aldo and Holloway. I'm for Holloway, but tough to bet against Aldo.
Any of you guys bet via bitcoin?

I really think that Jose Aldo will approach this fight like he faced Frankie Edgar where he will pick his shots and since Max Holloway is not a great wrestler expect some vicious leg kicks and Aldo has one of the nasty leg kicks in MMA history and it all depends upon his game plan,i wish i could see the old WEC Aldo where he was finishing people and yes i am wagging with bitcoin.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on June 02, 2017, 05:45:35 PM

I think Karolina will defeat Claudia.

That's my prediction. Cheesy

It may not be a good prediction.

That's the impression I get from watching the open workouts & listening to some of the things they're saying.

Of course open workouts aren't reliable as some fighters like Max Holloway throw their punches and kicks at 10% during open workouts while fighters like Jose Aldo throw their punches and kicks closer to 60%. It can be hard to gauge how good or powerful someone's technique is.

lol...why should Holloway put on a good open workout for the crowd when they're yelling out that he's going to die? Wink

I'm torn between who to choose between Aldo and Holloway. I'm for Holloway, but tough to bet against Aldo.

Any of you guys bet via bitcoin?

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I think Karolina will defeat Claudia.

That's my prediction. Cheesy

It may not be a good prediction.

That's the impression I get from watching the open workouts & listening to some of the things they're saying.

Of course open workouts aren't reliable as some fighters like Max Holloway throw their punches and kicks at 10% during open workouts while fighters like Jose Aldo throw their punches and kicks closer to 60%. It can be hard to gauge how good or powerful someone's technique is.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on June 01, 2017, 06:14:09 PM

Karolina is looking good in a black bikini on the UFC embedded series.

She also looks good in a peachy colored bikini. You like? Cheesy

And here are some additional videos as the event comes near. Hopefully most of you have already made your bets. Krach advices not to watch any hype or docu type of videos unless you have already made your bets since it could affect your judgement.

UFC 212 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kI1HsfF31A

UFC 212: Media Day Faceoffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmoDKGNIQIg

UFC 212: Open Workout Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU_YeslYOd0

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@Hydrogen. No. Karolina is too slow and too weak for Claudia. Claudia fights like she can compete in the men's division. She is like Amanda Nunes to a degree but without the lesbian girlfriend. Hehehe.

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Karolina is looking good in a black bikini on the UFC embedded series. Anyone think she could pull off an upset against Claudia Gadelha? The UFC also seems to be giving Max Holloway more coverage than the champion Jose Aldo is receiving. It makes me wonder and question why the UFC does certain things.

Only a few days more and this event is live. At least this card gives me more hope than the last card did.

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Quote from: Clement Kaliyar on May 10, 2017, 06:59:21 PM

Mirko Crocop is a legend no doubt about that and when he came to the UFC he could not perform like he used to be in the past,his performance was on a slide when he signed for the UFC and he ended his career in Japan with a championship victory and he announced his retirement,good to see him get to retire on a winning note and that too a heavyweight title,it is time for Anderson Silva to step out of the UFC and have some fun fights and call it quits like Mirko did.

After the Rizen win in Japan by Mirko im sure he retired with a good sensation, he demonstrated he could still kick ass.

He should retire now, im sure he is a multi millionaire, all he needs to do now is open a couple gyms and enjoy the unlimited passive income.

Same goes for Silva, his days in the UFC as a world champion are over.

I have no idea about Aldo vs Holloway, that's one I can't predict.

Im saving some money for the Mayweather vs McGregor fight, that's going to be huge. I don't see how you cant lose if you bet for a Mayweather win. It worked 49 times.

The hype when Mirko joined the UFC was so huge that time. But losses to many unknown fighters that time stop the hype train, too bad. As for Silva, nothing to proved anymore. He is already a legend and please don't fight and enjoy your life.

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Still having a hard time picking Aldo vs Holloway? You are not the one. I still don't know who to pick with.

Mirko was great in pride and I the type of training they did back then was different. They didn't do as much research into the opponent and develop in depth game plans. It was okay to be a one sided fighter back then. He had great take down defense and the lethal kicks. But in the UFC, people are constantly looking out for his kick and it wasn't a surprise anymore. He also wasn't able to adapt and keep his opponent guessing...he just continued with the same style and had trouble evolving.

As for Aldo vs. Holloway...hard to say for me as well. Holloway's confidence is at an all time high. I think it's safe to say this will be a stand up fight, so depends on if Aldo can chop the leg down and land hay makers to rock Holloway, who has a great chin...or if Holloway can put pressure on Aldo and get him moving backwards, and in boxing distance. I see it being pretty even as they're both beasts.

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Conor McGregor is the talk even in this thread,he has truly created something which is unique with all the fight fans with the way he talked,pro wrestling gave us good scripted talk and earlier we had Mohammed Ali who talked the talk and walked the walk,now what ever Conor McGregor touches he turns that into gold,he is the only person who gave every fighters a hope to start getting paid more than what they are used to and i think he is an smart individual by pitching a fight against Mayweather as he could easily retire after the match even if he looses,as he is rumored to make around hundred million or more with this single fight.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on May 30, 2017, 05:18:58 PM

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Mayweather is still on top shape, he is always training and keeps himself active. In his last fight he made Berto look like an Amateur, and McGregor is an actual boxing amateur, so he is going to make him look like a fool.

That is the only thing i like about Mayweather is that he wont drink nor use drugs and he always takes care of his body,McGregor is not even an amateur boxer as i am not sure he has entered a boxing ring in his life for a bout but he could hit hard and that is the exciting factor,no one cares if Mayweather schools him because that is what is supposed to happen a big pay day for both the fighters but what if he could knock him out and what different does an MMA fighter who is really unorthodox can do.

Quote from: Siren on May 30, 2017, 03:59:18 PM

Lol. How did you know that Mayweather has lost his reflexes?

How do you know that he has not lost his reflexes.He has not taken much damages in the boxing ring but anything could happen,what if Mayweather takes Mcgregor lightly like the rest of the opponents he faced in MMA and gets knocked out.It is a possibility.

McGregor is not even amateur. I couldn't find any senior titles, he may have won some junior titles, in some video he showed some trophies when he was young... nothing big.

http://boxrec.com/search/do_search

If he had any relevant boxing titles it would show up on this website. So yeah, he has no actual boxing experience. He will have to use his UFC striking skills. And remember that power on boxing globes is different to UFC.

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Hey guys. Take the boxing chat to the proper thread. McGregor vs Mayweather is a scam fight organized to get your money anyway. Grin

Anyway, here's Dan Hardy's break down of the main event. He seems to think that both fighters are equally matched and has the mental advantage on Holloway, but I dunno... I'm still with Aldo on this one.

And watch the vlog series episode two. KK is sooo hot in a bikini. Grin

UFC 212: Inside the Octagon - Jose Aldo vs Max Holloway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQvaf84pRDg

UFC 212 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZsQ2hxLebg

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@SaShiRaJaVu. The boxing gloves that will be used for their fight will add up to Floyd's advantage. Yes I know Conor can connect with the MMA gloves and the boxing gloves. But Floyd is more accustomed to the 8 oz gloves and he can use it to protect his chin or face and block Conor's punches. With MMA's smaller 4 oz. gloves, a fighter can use a Wing Chun style screw punch to hit through the hands protecting the face.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on May 30, 2017, 12:36:30 PM

Mayweather is still on top shape, he is always training and keeps himself active. In his last fight he made Berto look like an Amateur, and McGregor is an actual boxing amateur, so he is going to make him look like a fool.

That is the only thing i like about Mayweather is that he wont drink nor use drugs and he always takes care of his body,McGregor is not even an amateur boxer as i am not sure he has entered a boxing ring in his life for a bout but he could hit hard and that is the exciting factor,no one cares if Mayweather schools him because that is what is supposed to happen a big pay day for both the fighters but what if he could knock him out and what different does an MMA fighter who is really unorthodox can do.

Quote from: Siren on May 30, 2017, 03:59:18 PM

Lol. How did you know that Mayweather has lost his reflexes?

How do you know that he has not lost his reflexes.He has not taken much damages in the boxing ring but anything could happen,what if Mayweather takes Mcgregor lightly like the rest of the opponents he faced in MMA and gets knocked out.It is a possibility.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on May 30, 2017, 01:57:09 AM

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As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone done and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

I must agree that Mayweather is not getting any younger. And at 40 years and still top of his game is amazing. But as far as his reflexes is concern, I think it is still there because he is an extra ordinary athlete. He was able to maintain it for such a long time but doing a lot of work even when he is not fighting. So I disagree with you that his reflex may have been gone already. I also don't think that ring rust will also be another factor against him because just like I said, he keeps himself busy through out the year.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on May 30, 2017, 01:57:09 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on May 29, 2017, 01:01:58 PM

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone done and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

Lol. How did you know that Mayweather has lost his reflexes? But what I know is that he keeps himself in top shape all year round. He is still a step ahead of all his opponents. McGregor is not a pro boxing, have you seen a pro boxer hitting Mayweather straight in the face?......... Huh

? Last time I saw him being hit was with Mosley, he buckled a bit, but was able to recover and win.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on May 30, 2017, 01:57:09 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on May 29, 2017, 01:01:58 PM

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone done and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

Mayweather is still on top shape, he is always training and keeps himself active. In his last fight he made Berto look like an Amateur, and McGregor is an actual boxing amateur, so he is going to make him look like a fool.

Of course, McGregor hits hard as hell, so if he connects one punch that could be it. This is why the fight is so exciting. But let's not forget, Mayweather has a strong chin and can take a punch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhnRO9NeXFI

In this second round Mosley rocked Mayweather, and he still managed to come back and make Mosley look like a tool by the end of the fight. It takes amazing determination to do that.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 29, 2017, 01:01:58 PM

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Mayweather is 40 years old his reflexes may have gone down and if McGregor could connect one single punch then it will be game over,McGregor has already shown that he could hit the target with short gloves and with ten inch gloves he could connect in my opinion,it all depends upon how rusty Mayweather will be coming into the fight.

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Jose Aldo even if like Max and hes from the same island
Vitor Belfort
Yancy Medeiros
Raphael Assuncao
Eric Spicely
Johnny Eduardo

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 29, 2017, 03:27:34 PM

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As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather once, even if judges awarded Floyd the decision.

Even Floyd's father came out and said he thought Oscar De La Hoya won that fight.

I'm leaning towards Max Holloway defeating Jose Aldo. I think Jose Aldo could be a more skilled fighter than Max Holloway. I'm not sure Aldo has the cardio to last 5 rounds. His endurance hasn't looked good of late.

I'm sticking with Aldo here. The fight is in Rio, Brazil and that's a big psychological edge right there. And at 1.86 at Nitrogen, that's fair value imo. Not as high as I would like but still ok.

Plus it would be way better to see Aldo call out and come after McGregor after this. Maybe Aldo could even go up to LW and try to get two belts in the process. It sounds crazy but the UFC has been doing stuff differently since the WME-IMG acquisition.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 29, 2017, 03:27:34 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on May 29, 2017, 01:01:58 PM

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather once, even if judges awarded Floyd the decision.
Even Floyd's father came out and said he thought Oscar De La Hoya won that fight.
I'm leaning towards Max Holloway defeating Jose Aldo. I think Jose Aldo could be a more skilled fighter than Max Holloway. I'm not sure Aldo has the cardio to last 5 rounds. His endurance hasn't looked good of late.

One thing for sure,it will be a good battle and i am favoring Jose Aldo to win the fight as he thinks that he has unfinished business with Conor McGregor which i think will not be fulfilled,his last fight against Frankie was impressive and if he could perform to that level i think he can win the fight,Max Holloway has improved a lot since his last defeat against Mcgregor and age is also in his side.Let the best man win.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 29, 2017, 01:01:58 PM

As for Mayweather's record. "49 have tried and 49 have failed".

Oscar De La Hoya beat Mayweather once, even if judges awarded Floyd the decision.

Even Floyd's father came out and said he thought Oscar De La Hoya won that fight.

I'm leaning towards Max Holloway defeating Jose Aldo. I think Jose Aldo could be a more skilled fighter than Max Holloway. I'm not sure Aldo has the cardio to last 5 rounds. His endurance hasn't looked good of late.

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