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Quote from: 3meek on August 24, 2021, 07:50:14 AM

I think that according to social formulas, poor people are more prone to gambling addiction, and they part with their money more easily trying to win and get rich from gambling... Probably the poor areas do not have expensive casinos like in Las Vegas, but ordinary beggarly bars with slot machines... And of course you're right about the cheap rent... it's not profitable to keep a cheap casino in an expensive district...

I don't read much about the stats but I know that UK indeed has a high rank in terms of gambling industry. Many people on UK was doing gambling so maybe the area is just strategic for gamblers besides on the point you mention above. UK has a lot of gambler residents so you can have a lot of customer wherever you put the casino location or maybe Casino was already established on that area before poor people live around it.

The UK has some of the most liberal laws when it comes to gambling around the world and while I do not think this is causing addiction at the same time we need to recognize that if you are more exposed to a certain activity then the more likely that you are going to eventually try it and you are not going to see anything wrong with it, so I can understand why there are some voices there which want to more strictly regulate gambling in order to decrease gambling addictions.

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it will be very bad when making the poor gambling targets, where they will increasingly experience economic degradation that is increasingly declining. But at least on the other hand that person could have made his fortune to be a winner when gambling. Despite the effects of addiction and uncontrollable things as they battle the richer gamblers. It would be very risky if the advantage was on the other side.
Then the existence of gambling places are deliberately placed in disadvantaged areas, perhaps to avoid being chased by law enforcement officers. Where gamblers can play more freely and are served by the poor so that they get additional income from their services at the casino.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 24, 2021, 09:32:39 AM

Well, that's should be expected.

Poor people can't resist any ways to earn money at a very fast phase, that's the reason why they put casinos in such place to gain money for their business, which I think is kinda selfish for a wealthy person who owns a lot of casinos (it's all about money I guess). What makes me sad is that those poor people for sure are illiterate when it comes to decision making, and desperate to earn money for them to ignore the casino nearby to their places.

I hope most of them would realize sooner that it is better to earn money in the hard way (yet safer) unlike spending it on casinos.

I think you are missing something, it's not that casino owners like to build their casino building only on a rich city because it would attract more potential gamblers but the fact that land owner will demand more because it's a crowded city and they expect you already that as a casino owner you will gain more profit than them and that's the demand and supply for them.

That's why I believe most of these casinos are built on poorest part of the country is to save some money for rental fees. And that's the point why they built it there. I don't know if poor people could afford to gamble if their salaries are not enough for them to feed their own stomach.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 04:04:03 PM

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

21% gambling venues - located in poorest part
2% gambling venues- located in wealthiest part

What about the remaining 77%? Are they located in those parts where middle income group people lives?

Then how come the data concludes that only poors are being targeted? I don't see that!

Care to explain?

Also wealthy people don't have time to gamble. These segment of people are usually self disciplined and they are extremely busy. So we can separate them from our discussion!

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Quote from: ipanks on August 24, 2021, 09:11:13 AM

I am not sure if the casino targets the poor to play gambling because they are hard to buy food, so why should they gamble? If that is for making money to buy food, I do not think they will have that chance since gambling depends on luck. But some people from that location can play gambling to test their luck but it is hard to win because the casino will not let that happen. I tend to think that renting those places will not be too expensive and maybe the casino wants to hide their place from the government, especially if their country prohibits gambling.

That's not really the main purpose of building a casino in a place for the poor, maybe it can be an income for those who can become workers, service providers and things that might get tips from rich people who play gambling. I think it depends on the casino's policy with the aim of providing opportunities for the poor to earn more money, because if it's aiming to drain money it's not the right place.

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Well, that's should be expected.

Poor people can't resist any ways to earn money at a very fast phase, that's the reason why they put casinos in such place to gain money for their business, which I think is kinda selfish for a wealthy person who owns a lot of casinos (it's all about money I guess). What makes me sad is that those poor people for sure are illiterate when it comes to decision making, and desperate to earn money for them to ignore the casino nearby to their places.

I hope most of them would realize sooner that it is better to earn money in the hard way (yet safer) unlike spending it on casinos.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 24, 2021, 08:52:15 AM

Maybe they have a bigger percentage of players in the poorest part of the country. It's also more convenient and cheaper for them to hold a gambling event in the poorest areas. We also know that poorer people are more into gambling than lots of rich people because they're hoping that gambling could change their lives.

Of course there's more poor people that is gambling than those at the middle and upper class, remember that those in the middle and upper at the least knows that gambling and excessive gambling is only good for the gambling houses plus this people have a tradition of gambling that's why they have more gambling there.

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I am not sure if the casino targets the poor to play gambling because they are hard to buy food, so why should they gamble? If that is for making money to buy food, I do not think they will have that chance since gambling depends on luck. But some people from that location can play gambling to test their luck but it is hard to win because the casino will not let that happen. I tend to think that renting those places will not be too expensive and maybe the casino wants to hide their place from the government, especially if their country prohibits gambling.

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Quote from: Cling18 on August 24, 2021, 08:52:15 AM

Maybe they have a bigger percentage of players in the poorest part of the country. It's also more convenient and cheaper for them to hold a gambling event in the poorest areas. We also know that poorer people are more into gambling than lots of rich people because they're hoping that gambling could change their lives.

Sad thing to notice on human behaviour is that despite being poor, they always want to show they are not poor by impressing the people around them with the habit they can't last for long.

Instead of just chosing some other entertainment that don't need risking hard earned money. The science is that poor men feels good when they pretend to have money thru the vices they have like cocain or cigarrette somking or gambling.

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Maybe they have a bigger percentage of players in the poorest part of the country. It's also more convenient and cheaper for them to hold a gambling event in the poorest areas. We also know that poorer people are more into gambling than lots of rich people because they're hoping that gambling could change their lives.

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Quote from: 3meek on August 24, 2021, 07:50:14 AM

I think that according to social formulas, poor people are more prone to gambling addiction, and they part with their money more easily trying to win and get rich from gambling... Probably the poor areas do not have expensive casinos like in Las Vegas, but ordinary beggarly bars with slot machines... And of course you're right about the cheap rent... it's not profitable to keep a cheap casino in an expensive district...

I don't read much about the stats but I know that UK indeed has a high rank in terms of gambling industry. Many people on UK was doing gambling so maybe the area is just strategic for gamblers besides on the point you mention above. UK has a lot of gambler residents so you can have a lot of customer wherever you put the casino location or maybe Casino was already established on that area before poor people live around it.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 04:04:03 PM

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

That makes totally sense for me and as sad as it sounds it is also pretty logical. This kinda reminds me of the statistics of smoking too. I recently read that, at least in germany, smoking becomes more and more a habit of the lower social classes. Which maybe seems pretty odd at first because as far as i know one pack of cigarettes costs around 6€ in germany so if you smoke 1 pack a day you have to spend 180€ a month only for your smoking habit, which is a huge amount of money especially for poorer people and still a much bigger share of them are regular smokers in comparison to people of normal or high wealth. So i would say just take care of your self and make sure that you are not one of those poor people that is already in need of money but still throws away their last nickel with gambling. Only gamble if you can afford to do so.

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I think that according to social formulas, poor people are more prone to gambling addiction, and they part with their money more easily trying to win and get rich from gambling... Probably the poor areas do not have expensive casinos like in Las Vegas, but ordinary beggarly bars with slot machines... And of course you're right about the cheap rent... it's not profitable to keep a cheap casino in an expensive district...

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 04:04:03 PM

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

Casinos target everyone, there is no difference between the rich and poor except their betting money. Probably they think that rich people are busy so they may not be spending time for that and you only covered 22% then where the remaining 78% of the casinos are located?

It will be obvious in a place where middle class people are living more and they are the target for most of the business in this world.

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okay let say its cheap to build a business on that areas but what if theres only less people that will gamble due to thier state of living ?
being poor doesnt always mean that they are also poor to think of how to manage thier wealth .
if i were them i will position in central areas where its closer to rich people because there will be that will gamble offline more than online .

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Targeting the poor? maybe, but it could be why many gambling venues are located in poor areas because the number of poor people is more than the rich so it takes a lot of venues to accommodate those who love to gamble, or it could be the reason because of rental fees or the salaries of employees who also inexpensive.
I don't know about the UK, but is it possible because regulators in poor areas are corrupt officials and receive a lot of money from the gambling industry in their area? so there are many gambling venues there.

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You are indeed correct. The poor is being targeted. It's not because the rent is cheaper, they can always make up for that if they badly want their business to be planted. Why put it in the wealthiest venue if they know they are not going to spend more and they will just use casinos as just a meeting place or for a little pleasure. While the poor will use gambling as means of risking more for a chance to be rich.
That's all the reason behind it and they are just using the cheap rent for an excuse.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 04:04:03 PM

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

The poor being targeted, no doubt about that. Why? Because they are less educated, and thus they can believe in various "winning strategies" and stuff, and play endlessly generating the profit for the owners of gambling venues. But that's not all. I suspect that those gambling outlets are of such quality that it would be pointless to put them in the rich areas, few people would play there.

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This is just another attempt to get gambling banned by the anti-gambling lobby. Sometimes I wonder why these lobby losers don't do a job for a living. The real reason is that it is always easier to set up casinos and gambling joints in the poor areas, as the rent is low and manpower is available in sufficient quantities. Casinos actually help the people in these areas, by providing them with direct and indirect employment. If we listen to the anti-gambling nutjobs, then these people will lose their jobs and will be forced to beg on the street. Perhaps that is exactly what they want.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 24, 2021, 04:25:51 AM

Quote from: Obito on August 24, 2021, 02:25:41 AM

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Exactly, gambling gives the illusion of getting out of poverty in just a matter of one bet or gamble in something, that's why most poor people gamble because they want to get a good life. Of course this isn't true since gambling is designed to take your money and not give it to you. Another reason is that people don't have anything better to do so they pass the time through gambling.

That's the word that I was looking for, illusion. What you say is true and I think that the people at the top is going to want to keep it that way because they benefit in this kind of scheme the most and they have the utmost control. Haven't considered that some poor don't have any better past times but it seems fitting why they are the most people in the strata that gambles.

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