UK 20% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest part of the country - page 6.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 05:04:03 PM

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

Would rather believe that this is a matter of rent and also gambling casinos wont really flourish out if there's no demand of they arent making good revenue which lets exclude that rich people are doing online
gambling instead on going to physical places.This is a matter of rent which is cheaper but as a big business it is odd that they wont really be placing themselves on the capital because rent issues wouldnt
really be that much of a matter or in concern.If its true that they do really target out poor people or on whose in average then thats quite an effective way of making profits for their part.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 05:04:03 PM

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

I do not see any target here, if the casino is located near the poorest part of the country it is mainly because the taxes are low and the rentals are low as well and these casinos could actually boost the local economy as the locals will be getting jobs in these venues. If there is much evidence regarding this then we can tell but there is nothing here even to speculate.

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Reading the article, it's already mentioned the probable one of the reasons why it turned out that gambling venues are mostly on deprived areas.

And we quote; "those living in poorer areas are more likely to be living next to gambling premises. Those with the least resources are being targeted more, with twice as many gambling venues on their doorstep as supermarkets."

My take on this, the fact that these people are in deprived areas, they still have the financial capability to gamble at these land-based casinos to deal with their luck. There's no reason for the gambling operations to put up their casinos in these areas if it's not gaining good revenue.

Can we still call or consider it as "deprived areas" in general?

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Another reason apart from the economic cost and employment opportunities, may be because of accessibility and convenience. Gambling venues are located in places where the vast majority of persons both the poor and the rich that still gamble offline will have no problems visiting. A rich person can easily access the gambling venues in these poor locations (so far they are safe) and still place his bet of they are the type that like gambling, but the reverse is the case for the poor who will not want to go so far or go into a rich location to gamble.

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I know only little about UK, but my common sense says they (gambling venues) aren't specifically targeting the poor. Yes, it can be related to more expensive rent, and overall cost, or the acceptance of local community since the rich want privacy, comfort, safety, which can be disrupted by gambling operation especially if it's a residential area. I think in rich business areas, there should be present gambling venues.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 05:04:03 PM

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

I doubt the casinos are targeting the poor only. That would be a such a bad business model, don't you think? Or are you trying to say that they are trying to take advantage of those desperate people trying their luck to get rich? Would make sense but I doubt that is still going to work for the casino in the long run. Like you said, highly likely because of low cost of rent and cheap labor is the key reason why they are located over there.

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This is something that left me with a lot of questions because I've always thought that the rich are the ones who spend the most money on gambling and consequently it makes more sense that casinos are located in the rich zones even in order to bring more security and comfort to the rich. In my country, for example, the casinos are located in the rich district and the rich are the biggest regulars in physical casinos in my country. what is happening in the uk may be an exception, does anyone have stats from the USA for example to know if they have the same scenario with the uk? I see in movies and series that in las vegas there in the US and where there are many casinos, I don't know if that's true, but I think that in the US gambling should are located in the rich neighborhoods or am I making a mistake?

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Quote from: ralle14 on August 23, 2021, 06:41:24 PM

The cheaper rents is a likely reason for them to setup there knowing it's one way to reduce the risk for their business. The poor are surely being targeted here as most of them will be looking for other ways to make money and eventually some of them would become regulars. On top of this I feel like wealthier people would gamble less overall as they can afford and choose different kinds of entertainment.

or else, wealthy neighbourhoods don't want much noise around their area. usually, they prefer quiet community. because if there are casinos around their area, definitely, it will be a busy place, restaurants or hotels or other commercial establishments. but with relatively poor community, they like the hustle and bustle as they are looking for ways on how to earn money. with more establishments, it means, jobs for them. so maybe, aside from the cheaper rent, this type of community is more welcoming in this kind of business because of the benefits they can get.

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The cheaper rents is a likely reason for them to setup there knowing it's one way to reduce the risk for their business. The poor are surely being targeted here as most of them will be looking for other ways to make money and eventually some of them would become regulars. On top of this I feel like wealthier people would gamble less overall as they can afford and choose different kinds of entertainment. Here in my place the gambling situation is somewhat the same as there's a lot of lottery shops open nearby.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 05:04:03 PM

According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

There are a lot of pros for gambling venues that gives them a reasons to open their venues in poor parts. One is, as you already mentioned, the cheap rent and low payed employees, this saves some good money for them, nothing hugely significant but... After all, it's business aim to maximize profits. Then, it's also pretty common that poor people gamble the most and the higest revenue for casinos are poor people because these people find it hard to earn a lot of money and/or find normal job and then they test their fortune in gambling. The casino where I was working was full of poor people, i.e. full of those who were putting all of their hopes in last bets.

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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

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