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Topic: UK 20% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest part of the country - page 5. (Read 750 times)

legendary
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I think this is the same everywhere in the world though, and even in countries where it's illegal, you find the underground ones the most in poor cities and rural towns where the police don't really do anything because there's no hi speed internet or other forms of entertainment.

I think also we have to know what they count.

A scratchcard shop (considered gambling) in a poor town is not the same as a roulette machine in the city right?
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report


I think that the percentage of gamblers among the poor population of a country is higher than among the rich people. That is why there might be more casinos in poorer areas. London will be probably be the exception. One big selling point for casinos is the chance to become rich very quickly. This probably is also the motivation for many people to go into gambling, having the chance to become a millionaire overnight.
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Because the poor people are the most that gamble and waste their money on gambling the most, remember that around 90% of lottery players come from the poor neighborhood so it's not surprising that gambling areas are near those neighborhood.
Exactly, gambling gives the illusion of getting out of poverty in just a matter of one bet or gamble in something, that's why most poor people gamble because they want to get a good life. Of course this isn't true since gambling is designed to take your money and not give it to you. Another reason is that people don't have anything better to do so they pass the time through gambling.
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I think the business owners really know their shit.

They know you can only get poorer by gambling so they don't target the rich people because they are rich because they ain't dumb to play too much.

Instead, they target the poor people because they are dumb and dumb people play more and more and keep getting poorer.

It is a brilliant business decision.

It's something I heard a long time ago, casinos are making more profit from small gamblers who are always trying to make a big profit, and that simply rarely happens. So I am not surprised with this report, poor people wish to get rich and casinos provide the chance for that... Just in the reality, these people are losing from day to day that little what they have.
For sure casinos knows what's good for their business, would be stupid if they don't.
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?


https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

I think the business owners really know their shit.

They know you can only get poorer by gambling so they don't target the rich people because they are rich because they ain't dumb to play too much.

Instead they target the poor people because they are dumb and dumb people play more and more and keep getting poorer.

It is a brilliant business decision.
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.
Here you are talking about 20% which must be not that significant compared to the rest of 80% gambling venues, right? When I first start reading this, 20% at poorest part means what about the percentage of wealthiest people's regions. Does that survey have anything in-between poor and wealthy category? When one category (poor) part is having 20% then it seems to me like a normal thing regardless of what other parts are doing (overall, I feel like there should be some error on this study or this study should be talking about uniform distribution of gambling houses among rich and poor parts of UK but definitely not about targeting poor, it seems).
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Because the poor people are the most that gamble and waste their money on gambling the most, remember that around 90% of lottery players come from the poor neighborhood so it's not surprising that gambling areas are near those neighborhood.
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It's normal I think it's the same for all nation's of the world it's always the poorest regions with less taxation that has the highest number of gambling centers since the government mostly pays lesser attention to those areas and the cost of renting a venue for their gambling business is cheaper compared to urban cities

In a way it is nice as well if we have some in those regions since people will travel to that place to play and in that case the upliftment or the employment of those areas increases be it in way of restaurant, hotel industry, travel cabs etc and those provides more opportunities to locals.
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It's normal I think it's the same for all nation's of the world it's always the poorest regions with less taxation that has the highest number of gambling centers since the government mostly pays lesser attention to those areas and the cost of renting a venue for their gambling business is cheaper compared to urban cities
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Definitely, I mean, less fortunate people tend to take risk in order to make quick buck or a chance to a jackpot. They realize that there money to be make on gambling on poorer areas soI am not surprised that they decided to set casinos there. They are businessman and for them profit comes first.

Then they are not less fortunate people. Casinos established a business there meaning it's profitable despite being a deprived area and more people are attracted to the business. They have money to play and gamble on it.

And maybe it's cheaper to start a business there compare to the capital as the areas are not that established.

But searching the internet, the poor areas in the UK still have a good look and you won't think there are lots of poor there. Still beautiful compare to poor areas in other countries like here lol.
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According to a new report that was published 21% of the gambling venues are located at the poorest areas while only 2% are located on the wealthiest parts of the country, this is being used as evidence the poor are being targeted, but this could just be evidence that it is cheaper to rent at those places and the gambling outlets prefer to go there to save on rent, or that maybe those that are the wealthiest prefer to gamble online instead of taking their time to go to one of those places and as such there is no reason to set up shop on their neighborhood.

So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/aug/23/uks-most-deprived-areas-have-highest-number-of-gambling-outlets-report

That's just garbage.

This is not new, it happens in most if not all countries that I know of and has nothing to do with the internet. The issue is as simple as that the rich know that the casino is not a good way to make money, that's why they don't gamble as much. They don't gamble as much-there is less demand-there are fewer gambling establishments opening in wealthy areas.

I think the poor are hoping for the best in their risks. It's like targeting the highest risk with the highest rewards, and that's not healthy at all....

Mostly, it's going to be those who believe in the get rich quick type of schemes as well...

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Or maybe the poor people tends to risk on gambling to have 'easy' money and hope to become rich sooner.

As opposed to those rich people who work very hard on their asses to become wealthy. So obviously, they are not willing to put their hard end money on gambling and prefer to re-invest it somewhere. So I guess those operators are playing with poor people emotions and psychology and the environment itself.

And this.

This does not mean that the rich do not play, they do play but the percentage of people in wealthy areas is much lower. I would also add another thing: in rich areas they know more mathematics (on average) than in poor areas.
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Definitely, I mean, less fortunate people tend to take risk in order to make quick buck or a chance to a jackpot. Even in my area when I was young, although there were no casino, illegal gambling is very rampant.  They realize that there are money to be made on gambling on poorer areas. so I am not surprised that they decided to set casinos there. They are businessman, and for them, profit comes first.
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Or maybe the poor people tends to risk on gambling to have 'easy' money and hope to become rich sooner.

As opposed to those rich people who work very hard on their asses to become wealthy. So obviously, they are not willing to put their hard end money on gambling and prefer to re-invest it somewhere. So I guess those operators are playing with poor people emotions and psychology and the environment itself.
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I think the poor are hoping for the best in their risks. It's like targeting the highest risk with the highest rewards, and that's not healthy at all. I believe it's saddening to see this happening in the most inferior part of the country. It is educating them on how to minimize their losses and understanding that you should only gamble if you are willing to lose what you are risking.

Mostly, it's going to be those who believe in the get rich quick type of schemes as well, It doesn't matter if what they're investing in is good or not, but that's just the reality. They should change their mindset to escape the never-ending wheel.
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It's usually the poor who seeks easy money through gambling. It's not just by chance that they just thought of establishing a casino in a particular place without strategic marketing in mind. If the location can easily be reached by people and there is foot traffic, any business will thrive in such a place as long as there are also businesses around the area. Employees of these businesses will have a good time and casino could be a place for entertainment.
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?
The casino owners will search for a cheaper place to rent and open the casino but that does not mean they attract attention from the poor to playing gambling. That is just coincidentally if the casino owner opens their business in the poorest areas. If the poor people visit that place and playing gambling, that will not be a mistake from the casino because they do not invite them to come to their place. If the poor do not think much about playing gambling, they can take care of themselves and will not try gambling because of the risk. But that can give the opportunity for people from that place to have a job as an employee.
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There's a money with the poor, they are the most vulnerable in gambling as they gamble for the hope of winning big, so this might be one of the reason and maybe the cost of operating business on that poor location is also the priority of the business owner. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of illegal gambling on the poorest location because in my country, we have that thing and many people are playing even if its illegal, just for the money.
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There are probably different explanations or interpretations of these data. But I am inclined to think that it may be true. Gambling for the rich is a form of hobby. It is mostly just for fun. Being that, the rich may not be drawn to it all the time because they could afford a lot of other leisure options or even that many of them are quite busy. But the poor are often drawn into gambling more often because gambling for them may not be just a mere hobby. It is more than that. It is a way for them to make easy money which is what they badly need all the time, which is of course wrong.
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I'd say cheaper rents. And probably a whole load of pain in the ass papers to process if they were to ever locate their casinos in wealthy places. If it were to be made into a hub instead, then there's a possibility since the profits outweigh the cons, but if it was just a single casino or two? It'd honestly be not worth it ngl. Not to mention that casinos located for the wealthy would probably have all those bunch of fancy smanshy stuff that would cost them more.

And to be fair, from a business perspective, it is a lot easier to milk money off of the poor people. They are taking advantage of them yes, but again it is viewed at from a business perspective where profits reign as the number one reason.
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So what do you think? Are the poor being targeted or there is another explanation for the data we are seeing?
I do not see any target here, if the casino is located near the poorest part of the country it is mainly because the taxes are low and the rentals are low as well and these casinos could actually boost the local economy as the locals will be getting jobs in these venues. If there is much evidence regarding this then we can tell but there is nothing here even to speculate.
I agree with you, moreover I would add if 20% of the gambling venues are located in the poorest parts of the country, it means that 80% aren't located there... And saying only 2% are located in the wealthiest parts of the country, doesn't really make sense because there is usually not any shops in those areas, they are mainly residential.
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