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Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 28. (Read 952938 times)

boki15

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@mprep

You do block my PM because of the reason that you deleted. You are the mod who I accuse in what is written here. This post is not offtopic, it has to do with all rules in this thread and it's "unofficial" definition.

EDIT: Inserted screen of blocked PM

Do you want to try to silence me because you made mistakes? This is not going to work, users should not only know what unofficial rules are but also how official mods like you do not apply them unofficially.

Again, reply to this post that is deleted. I repost it because I threat it's deletion as silencing and cutting my free speech rights.

Why is this deleted? It is about rules and in appropriate thread, in unofficial one. Can someone explain me why is this deleted at all? Please reply in public to this and if you think new thread should be created for that then in my eyes it would be another spam thread.

Quote from: boki15 on September 03, 2016, 12:55:31 PM

Quote from: BestWebCreator on August 31, 2016, 05:39:24 PM

... The rules apply to eveyone.

That's the problem, they aren't applied and as explanation comes always some prove that the person who should apply rules plays either dumb not understanding them, flipping around or starting another question to distract from discussion.

If rules would be applied, suchmoon and some other members here would be banned, especially for their puppet accounts.

Everybody is clearly in illusioin that rules can exist if you apply them only on people who you dislike because you dislike them or their opinion. All this ends in anarchy, nobody cares about rules if those who apply them are either unable to do so or they simply mark this forum to be without any rules.

THERE ARE NO RULES HERE THAT ARE APPLIED TO EVERYONE => THIS FORUM HAS NO RULES. If you are not my opinion, feel free to open new thread instead of poluting this one.

Basicly I want you to reply:
1. they aren't applied and as explanation comes always some prove that the person who should apply rules plays either dumb not understanding them, flipping around or starting another question to distract from discussion.
2. THERE ARE NO RULES HERE THAT ARE APPLIED TO EVERYONE => THIS FORUM HAS NO RULES

mprep

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Slightly modified one of the thread posting guidelines (change underlined):

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All Local boards - Discussion of various topics in the appropriate language. Posting translated coin announcements is limited to languages that have their own section (a.k.a. dedicated board with sub-boards).

Also, added Cyrus to the credits for the suggestion.

boki15

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It is not hard at all if staff does not flip it around or use for some questionable agenda. It is clear what is forbidden or not if you read rules, the problem is that they are by far not applied as written which does complain with the statement that it is "rule" at all. And if it is not a rule, then it simply should not be applied until it is worked out to some applyable rule (no matter if the question is in staff quality or complexity of rule definition itself).

That's why I ask for difference. As you probably realised, I accuse mprep in support of some clearly illegal activities on this forum where his actions got backup by administration which did not behave much different than moderation.

I think it would be only fair to your users, especially new users if you could at least define rules that staff of this forum is able to apply. As last, many do not know how to find rules, dumb or not, thats true and then they get banned because rules were not placed where they belong.

I really dont know why I share at all opinion here if staff is clearly different opinion and supporting much that I define as crime. Still, I think my opinion could be usefull.

Quote from: botany on August 27, 2016, 08:56:37 PM

Quote from: boki15 on August 27, 2016, 08:45:15 PM

Just follow the rules (official or unofficial), in letter and in spirit.

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on July 31, 2014, 06:50:48 PM

No "official" set of rules was ever published, because if rules are set in stone, then people will come up with clever ways to bypass them, and then complain when a moderator takes action. This is however a very good thread to read to find out in general what you can and can't do. I do believe it should be stickied, but kept as "unofficial"

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Quote from: boki15 on August 27, 2016, 08:45:15 PM

Just follow the rules (official or unofficial), in letter and in spirit.

Quote from: SaltySpitoon on July 31, 2014, 06:50:48 PM

boki15

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What is the difference of official and unofficial if you and most reffer to unofficial as official??? Maybe I am dumb, but for me it sounds like official = unofficial with difference that unofficial rules ???are being adapted in this thread??? and official not?? Wow! You can't edit official rules when there is a need to do it and thats why there are unofficial rules.

Means, you mods and users reffer to unofficial rules including links and everything else when you need some explanation but when it does not fit to your agenda, you reffer to it as if it would not be a rule, just something unofficial?? Wow, I am amzed again by such briliant logic.

Quote from: mprep on August 27, 2016, 04:25:13 PM

Quote from: boki15 on August 27, 2016, 11:38:29 AM

It's an unofficial list (meaning it wasn't written by the head admin, meaning there can be errors, misinterpreted rules, etc. though I try to correct those as they are pointed out) of official rules (rules that have been put in by the head admin OR the head admin approved a rule suggested by one or several of the staff).

Quote from: boki15 on August 27, 2016, 11:38:29 AM

If your staff does apply rules only when it fits to agenda and not applying when it does not fit to someone's agenda, then rules are being twisted by meanings and there is silence from staff.

Please explain me the meaning of unofficial rules and how is staff being instructed to apply them.

As I mentioned in my answer to your PM:

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I haven't seen rule exclusions as far as I remember. I've seen situations when rules were changed (the new restricted dox rule that came into play around half a month ago) and as such the way certain situations get handled change (doxes get moved to the Investigations board or, in extreme situations, deleted).

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If you're looking to share your conspiracy theories with someone, feel free to PM someone active in the "Politics and Society" board. I hear there's quite a few people interested in that sort of stuff.

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Quote from: boki15 on August 27, 2016, 11:38:29 AM

As I mentioned in my answer to your PM:

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What is the difference beetwen official and non official rules?

Does non official mean, that it is not official when staff does not want to apply them and official would mean they need to apply rules?

If your staff does apply rules only when it fits to agenda and not applying when it does not fit to someone's agenda, then rules are being twisted by meanings and there is silence from staff.

Please explain me the meaning of unofficial rules and how is staff being instructed to apply them.

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Quote from: coinstatic on August 20, 2016, 01:55:56 PM

Hey mrprep could you please check your PM

I have reported 2 trolls who keep on bashing, spamming, trolling, causing confusion, spreading false rumours and created a fake ANN thread to try and sabotage the project.

It's unfair how these people get away here and nothing be done and real members who want real information get ignored.

I have pm'd you the name of these 2 people and please feel free to check their posts etc and how much they keep on spamming continuously non stop. The owner of this project had to shut down the original thread because of these 2 and open a new moderated thread, and then they just go ahead and create a fake ANN thread about this project.

If you would've read the thread you happen to be posting in, you would know that the following...

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bashing

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causing confusion

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spreading false rumours

...is, in it self, not moderated as per the many reasons stated in OP (e.g. difficulty of getting the actual unbiased truth in order to make a judgment, the common lack of reliable evidence, freedom of speech, etc.). Also, they did not create a fake ANN - they stated that they made a discussion thread for a coin whose main thread is self-moderated since they believe the coin is a scam. Furthermore, sarcasm and skepticism isn't trolling. Lastly, anyone can create an ANN thread of any coin as long as that thread isn't redundant (e.g. community takeover, hard fork, locked or self-moderated thread, etc.).

If you have any further qualms with my answer, direct them to me via PM, not via the thread whose main purpose is to discuss about rules, not report cases of such rules being broken (that's what the "Report to Moderator" link at the bottom right side of each post is for).

Also, it's mprep, not mrprep.

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As per the new dox policy, I've modified one FAQ question:

Quote from: theymos on August 05, 2016, 12:23:54 AM

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1. Personal information must be confined to the new "investigations" board (under Scam Accusations), which is only visible to Members and above. Personal information is defined as anything which links a user's online identity (username, email, etc.) to their meatspace identity, excluding links that the person himself has posted. It is not allowed to post somebody's personal information in any other public place, including in signatures.
2. It is not allowed to post someone's dox if it is especially obvious that you're just using the dox as a weapon. For example, if there are no remotely-plausible trade complaints, then the person can't be a scammer, and their dox should not be posted.
3. As before, anything that the legacy insecure government/banking system requires to be secret is not allowed anywhere. This includes social security numbers, credit card numbers, and certain account numbers.
<...>

Why aren't they deleted? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.

Also, modified one of the topic names of the translations as it has slightly changed:

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Croatian translation "Neslužbena lista Bitcointalk.org pravila/smjernica/FAQ" (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dead-1182311) by Lauda

mprep

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Added new rule with an explanation (as per hilariousandco's suggestion):

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33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.[e]

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33. This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.

Also, since SaltySpitoon pointed out, added the "Need confirmation if rule is still active." marker on the following rule:

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20. There are restrictions when selling accounts and invites for invite-only sites. See https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sales-of-accounts-and-invites-to-invite-only-sites-134779 [2][?]

Also, added SaltySpitoon in the credits.

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Quote from: kaicrypzen on July 22, 2016, 05:58:27 AM

Hello,

I would like to create a new local board (for a language that still has no local board). Can anyone tell me how to proceed? (I might have missed the guidelines for that, if any were in the original post, and I'm sorry for that). Thank you.

You might want to look at the discussion in this thread.

Can the Philippines PLEASE get their own sub-section?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-the-philippines-please-get-their-own-sub-section-1112318

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Quote from: kaicrypzen on July 22, 2016, 02:06:37 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on July 22, 2016, 06:49:20 AM

Quote from: kaicrypzen on July 22, 2016, 05:58:27 AM

They will only be created if there's demmand for one. Create a thread in Meta if you would like to further discuss your proposal.

Thx for the reply, okay then I might create a topic in Meta to discuss that. So, there will be demand if users replied on the potentiel thread I'll create and said "Yes, it would be a good idea" or are there some other measures to quantifiy demand?

Well, the first option would be to create a thread in Other languages/locations (if there isn't one there already?): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=11.0

If it gets popular then maybe then would be the time to discuss creating a specific sub board for it but if it's not lively then there's probably not much need for it.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on July 22, 2016, 06:49:20 AM

Quote from: kaicrypzen on July 22, 2016, 05:58:27 AM

They will only be created if there's demmand for one. Create a thread in Meta if you would like to further discuss your proposal.

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Quote from: kaicrypzen on July 22, 2016, 05:58:27 AM

They will only be created if there's demmand for one. Create a thread in Meta if you would like to further discuss your proposal.

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Quote from: lottery248 on July 18, 2016, 07:54:25 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on July 18, 2016, 04:47:17 PM

This would not be of help because scammers simply would use a random porn image from the net to mask their malware.

ok. however, we still have a certain prevention from those malware, by not allowing the file to be downloaded directly, so i can take a look if they are malware or not.

Embedding would allow to implement the malware directly into the thread, loading automatically while having a link gives you the decision to download it.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on July 18, 2016, 04:47:17 PM

This would not be of help because scammers simply would use a random porn image from the net to mask their malware.

ok. however, we still have a certain prevention from those malware, by not allowing the file to be downloaded directly, so i can take a look if they are malware or not.

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This would not be of help because scammers simply would use a random porn image from the net to mask their malware.

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i would suggest to allow embedded NSFW images in thread titled with [NSFW] at the beginning, because some of the link to NSFW stuff could be a scam, by allowing those embedded images, they will have less reason to scam others. Huh