Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 32.

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Quote from: TheGr33k on December 10, 2015, 12:58:50 AM

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Urban dictionary is not a creditable source. Anyone would know that. It is basically like wikipedia which is an online source made by everyone, for everyone. Ask a teacher who has been a teacher for several years in the art of journalism. They will tell you the same words I'm telling you. You'll need a creditable source such as Google or Webster.

Google is a credible source? Please tell your teacher they need to quit their job. Anyway. No they dont need a credible source, in fact the staff here needs no source at all. They can just define spam in the way that is to be understood here. It might be confusing for some, it might even be irritating for some, but there is no need to have credible source for the rules of a private forum.

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Quote from: mprep on December 09, 2015, 08:17:08 PM

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 07:58:24 PM

In all honesty, I don't really believe you understood the nature of the comment.

It is not something that can truly be answered in a sense. As for trolling and spamming, there is a set definition on the internet.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 07:58:24 PM

In all honesty, I don't really believe you understood the nature of the comment. It is not something that can truly be answered in a sense.

No, but I can attempt to address your concerns.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 07:58:24 PM

As for trolling and spamming, there is a set definition on the internet.

No, there isn't:

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Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

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Electronic spamming is the use of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited messages (spam)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming

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spamming
posting useless crap on forums over and over
this

Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spamming

Urban dictionary is not a creditable source. Anyone would know that. It is basically like wikipedia which is an online source made by everyone, for everyone. Ask a teacher who has been a teacher for several years in the art of journalism. They will tell you the same words I'm telling you. You'll need a creditable source such as Google or Webster.

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Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 07:58:24 PM

In all honesty, I don't really believe you understood the nature of the comment.

It is not something that can truly be answered in a sense. As for trolling and spamming, there is a set definition on the internet.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 07:58:24 PM

In all honesty, I don't really believe you understood the nature of the comment. It is not something that can truly be answered in a sense.

No, but I can attempt to address your concerns.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 07:58:24 PM

As for trolling and spamming, there is a set definition on the internet.

No, there isn't:

Quote

Application of the term troll is subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Quote

Electronic spamming is the use of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited messages (spam)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming

Quote

spamming
posting useless crap on forums over and over
this

Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spamming

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Quote from: mprep on December 09, 2015, 07:11:12 PM

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

I'm not completely sure if I even understand the official unofficial rules. In my humble opinion, it seems as though they were not well thought out.

The interpreted definition of spam and trolling is incorrect in the OP. It also doesn't sound very professional to post documents of someone without their consent. That's a breach of privacy. For example, if you repost a photo from someone's Facebook, that's fine because they clearly don't mind sharing their photos as long as it is a public Facebook. Anything that is set private, but posted publicly is a breach of privacy.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

I'm not completely sure if I even understand the official unofficial rules.

Unofficial list, as in not made by the admin. Official rules, as in rules that apply in Bitcointalk.

Also, see notice on top of the thread:

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

In my humble opinion, it seems as though they were not well thought out

These rules were gathered by me from various, sticky threads, advice from administrators and other moderators and my experience as a Bitcointalk moderator.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

The interpreted definition of spam and trolling is incorrect in the OP

There is no incorrect definition. It's the definition that applies here (not everywhere in the internet), in Bitcointalk.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

It also doesn't sound very professional to post documents of someone without their consent. That's a breach of privacy. For example, if you repost a photo from someone's Facebook, that's fine because they clearly don't mind sharing their photos as long as it is a public Facebook. Anything that is set private, but posted publicly is a breach of privacy.

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Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they are on topic and the information can be obtained legally (no SSNs for example). Why? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.

In all honesty, I don't really believe you understood the nature of the comment.

It is not something that can truly be answered in a sense. As for trolling and spamming, there is a set definition on the internet.

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Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

I'm not completely sure if I even understand the official unofficial rules. In my humble opinion, it seems as though they were not well thought out.

The interpreted definition of spam and trolling is incorrect in the OP. It also doesn't sound very professional to post documents of someone without their consent. That's a breach of privacy. For example, if you repost a photo from someone's Facebook, that's fine because they clearly don't mind sharing their photos as long as it is a public Facebook. Anything that is set private, but posted publicly is a breach of privacy.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

I'm not completely sure if I even understand the official unofficial rules.

Unofficial list, as in not made by the admin. Official rules, as in rules that apply in Bitcointalk.

Also, see notice on top of the thread:

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

In my humble opinion, it seems as though they were not well thought out

These rules were gathered by me from various, sticky threads, advice from administrators and other moderators and my experience as a Bitcointalk moderator.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

The interpreted definition of spam and trolling is incorrect in the OP

There is no incorrect definition. It's the definition that applies here (not everywhere in the internet), in Bitcointalk.

Quote from: TheGr33k on December 09, 2015, 09:11:05 AM

It also doesn't sound very professional to post documents of someone without their consent. That's a breach of privacy. For example, if you repost a photo from someone's Facebook, that's fine because they clearly don't mind sharing their photos as long as it is a public Facebook. Anything that is set private, but posted publicly is a breach of privacy.

Quote

Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they are on topic and the information can be obtained legally (no SSNs for example). Why? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.

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I'm not completely sure if I even understand the official unofficial rules. In my humble opinion, it seems as though they were not well thought out.

The interpreted definition of spam and trolling is incorrect in the OP. It also doesn't sound very professional to post documents of someone without their consent. That's a breach of privacy. For example, if you repost a photo from someone's Facebook, that's fine because they clearly don't mind sharing their photos as long as it is a public Facebook. Anything that is set private, but posted publicly is a breach of privacy.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 08, 2015, 08:53:00 AM

Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

That's fucking ridiculous. He has over 250 posts all in a row talking to no one but himself and he's already nearly made ten posts today alone. It's clear nobody is interested in his tips and is likely only doing it for signature payment but there's no reason why the daily updates can't all be in one post. I've notified Marco but at the very least I reckon it's spam and violates the one bump per 24 hour rule but not sure how that should be handled as there's a major clean up needed. I've asked the admins for clarification on double/multi-posting but in my opinion it's blatant spam and completely unnecessary (and same goes for others double/triple/quadruple posting when there's no apparent need for it).

I understand double/triple or even quadruple posting in one thread (in very rare cases) if you were replying/responding to multiple people/posts/concerns/points, however I cannot think of any good reason why someone would legitimately need to post 200x in a row in the same thread.

That person's relationship with marco is very strange as IIRC marco had said that he had lent ~1BTC (why I don't know) to that person when he was asking a loan a few months ago.

I would suggest that an immediate best course of action would be to lock that thread as there is fairly clearly no conversation going on in that thread despite it being bumped multiple times per day/hour.

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I don't disagree. A better option may be to split the thread then trash that.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 08, 2015, 08:53:00 AM

Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

That's fucking ridiculous. He has over 250 posts all in a row talking to no one but himself and he's already nearly made ten posts today alone. It's clear nobody is interested in his tips and is likely only doing it for signature payment but there's no reason why the daily updates can't all be in one post. I've notified Marco but at the very least I reckon it's spam and violates the one bump per 24 hour rule but not sure how that should be handled as there's a major clean up needed. I've asked the admins for clarification on double/multi-posting but in my opinion it's blatant spam and completely unnecessary (and same goes for others double/triple/quadruple posting when there's no apparent need for it).

That thread could be trashed and nobody will be any poorer. Wink

Once the admins clarify, we can add this to the list of rules.

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Quote from: sasa9 on December 08, 2015, 09:24:45 AM

What is NSFW images ?
give detailed definition please Huh

Would you want to be looking at that image at work and would it cause you trouble if you were caught doing so? I'd say yes, so it's NSFW.

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Quote from: sasa9 on December 08, 2015, 09:24:45 AM

What is NSFW images ?
give detailed definition please Huh

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Definition of NSFW. I wouldn't really call that image 'safe for work', but it might be debatable (although I do think this would get you into trouble).

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What is NSFW images ?
give detailed definition please Huh

Why for example was removed here this photo?
Breasts closed?
https://pp.vk.me/c624131/v624131647/415b8/DpEB0S1uyUo.jpg [Mod note NSFW image]
Just like Reis remove all my photos?
What have I done?
What I did for you personally?

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Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

That's fucking ridiculous. He has over 250 posts all in a row talking to no one but himself and he's already nearly made ten posts today alone. It's clear nobody is interested in his tips and is likely only doing it for signature payment but there's no reason why the daily updates can't all be in one post. I've notified Marco but at the very least I reckon it's spam and violates the one bump per 24 hour rule but not sure how that should be handled as there's a major clean up needed. I've asked the admins for clarification on double/multi-posting but in my opinion it's blatant spam and completely unnecessary (and same goes for others double/triple/quadruple posting when there's no apparent need for it).

shorena

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Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 08:53:27 PM

Quote from: shorena on December 07, 2015, 05:38:35 PM

Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

IMHO no, the majority of them could be just a single post.

That is my opinion as well. He does have a pay/post signature (I am not sure if he is paid for these posts).
I would like clarity on this in general, before I start flagging similar posts.

Not all bit-x are pay per post AFAIK, some have fixed deals. The issue is unrelated to the signature though. The thread is bumped constantly thus keeping it on the first page. So its a violation of rule 13.

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Quote from: shorena on December 07, 2015, 05:38:35 PM

Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

IMHO no, the majority of them could be just a single post.

That is my opinion as well. He does have a pay/post signature (I am not sure if he is paid for these posts).
I would like clarity on this in general, before I start flagging similar posts.

shorena

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Quote from: botany on December 07, 2015, 10:34:29 AM

Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

IMHO no, the majority of them could be just a single post.

botany

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Is making consecutive posts acceptable?
There was a discussion on this here, but I would like this to be clarified.

An example is this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1066885.1780

The last 100+ posts have been made by the same user.
Multiple posts in a single day....

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Quote from: hilariousandco on December 03, 2015, 11:27:19 AM

Doesn't seem to be anything about unsolicited PMs can get you a ban etc so.

Added:

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29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.

If you have have suggestions for more examples of such PMs, I'll be glad to add it in.

EDIT:

Also clarified on one FAQ question. Bolded the parts in the answer that I added in:

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Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they are on topic and the information can be obtained legally (no SSNs for example). Why? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines.

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Doesn't seem to be anything about unsolicited PMs can get you a ban etc.

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Quote from: Decoded on December 03, 2015, 12:47:57 AM

Theymos: "Approximately 1 year from now" XP

Uh oh. We're nearing "2 years from now"! Has Theymos given us an update on the new forum? I literally can't wait.

Technically it said that the forum was coming after February 2015; it is still after February right? I don't think that he has told the public much about it, but there is going to be a public beta soon (as was told long ago). People just need to be more patient. The more time is spent on it, the better it is going to be.

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