Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 46.

sandykho47

sr. member

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Knowledge its everything

The list very much, i just know some bitcointalk.org rules

Actually i have few question (i don't want to open new thread) :
1. What should we do if we don't get paid after do signature-ad campaign
should we give negative trust / not Huh

2. Some provider in my country use Dynamic IP (the IP changed every time we connect to internet)
What will happen with my account if i got banned IP ?

And i think you should add post/activity, example : you become member if you have 60 activity

BadBear

legendary

Activity: 1652

Merit: 1128

Also need to consider that someone with a compromised forum account, it's possible that they lost control of their private keys as well. It can get complicated quickly, and sometimes the only thing to do is nothing.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

Quote from: dserrano5 on August 29, 2014, 10:30:42 AM

PMs can't be edited and remain in the database as long as at least one party doesn't delete it. Since DefaultTrust isn't going to delete received PMs (theymos sayeth) and they can't be edited, that makes for a reasonably safe way to set your address in stone.

If a user hasn't sent it before and then their account is compromised and the hacker sends all the information to the DefaultTrust account, then it apears that the hacker is the owner of the account although that's wrong. I'm sure BadBear has mentioned before that it may not be accepted under certain circumstances. (may be wrong)

What I pointed out above is only one scenario, there are many which it could be abused some which I probably haven't even thought of. Also, with people selling their accounts and sent their address to DefaultTrust prior to the deal and then once the money has been transfered and they try to reclaim their account by signing their address, then what would you do in this scenario? Who is the rightful owner? How would you even tell that this has occurred? If you even had a hint that this had happended you have to completely reject this as evidence.

dserrano5

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Quote from: Welsh on August 29, 2014, 10:02:14 AM

I was under the impression that sending a message to DefaultTrust is simply a precaution and may or may not be accepted as evidence.

PMs can't be edited and remain in the database as long as at least one party doesn't delete it. Since DefaultTrust isn't going to delete received PMs (theymos sayeth) and they can't be edited, that makes for a reasonably safe way to set your address in stone.

Welsh

staff

Activity: 3304

Merit: 4115

I was under the impression that sending a message to DefaultTrust is simply a precaution and may or may not be accepted as evidence.

BadBear

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Merit: 1128

Quote from: Lauda on August 29, 2014, 08:59:41 AM

Quote from: shorena on August 29, 2014, 08:56:17 AM

Quote from: Lauda on August 29, 2014, 08:40:15 AM

In regards to account recovery,did theymos or someone say somewhere to message Default trust with you address or something?
I did that a while ago. Would Stunna's confirmation that address xxx (listed on profile) was used for payout + me signing a message from it be enough?
I like to be prepared.

The address in your profile can easily be edited if you have lost your account. So can be posts. E.g. I could "quote" one of your posts saying that you own address X and use that later to hijack your account.

The PM to DefaultTrust is probably the only method that can not be manipulated later. As long as DefaultTrust does not delete your PM (not likely since this was suggested by theymos) its still on the server, but can not be edited.

I know that, this is why I'm asking would Stunna's confirmation be enough.
I've been with PD a while and have gotten a few payments; he could easily confirm that the address was owned by Lauda i.e. me. I was input from BB on this matter.

It's best to not have to rely on third parties, not only would one have to trust you, one would have to trust Stunna as well, and there is already enough to consider without having to throw that into the mix.

dserrano5

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Activity: 1974

Merit: 1030

Quote from: Lauda on August 29, 2014, 08:59:41 AM

I've been with PD a while and have gotten a few payments; he could easily confirm that the address was owned by Lauda i.e. me. I was input from BB on this matter.

Biggest problem with this is, as legit as it may seem, it still doesn't have to be accepted as proof. PM DT and forget about it.

Lauda

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Activity: 2674

Merit: 3000

Terminated.

Quote from: shorena on August 29, 2014, 08:56:17 AM

Quote from: Lauda on August 29, 2014, 08:40:15 AM

In regards to account recovery,did theymos or someone say somewhere to message Default trust with you address or something?
I did that a while ago. Would Stunna's confirmation that address xxx (listed on profile) was used for payout + me signing a message from it be enough?
I like to be prepared.

The address in your profile can easily be edited if you have lost your account. So can be posts. E.g. I could "quote" one of your posts saying that you own address X and use that later to hijack your account.

The PM to DefaultTrust is probably the only method that can not be manipulated later. As long as DefaultTrust does not delete your PM (not likely since this was suggested by theymos) its still on the server, but can not be edited.

I know that, this is why I'm asking would Stunna's confirmation be enough.
I've been with PD a while and have gotten a few payments; he could easily confirm that the address was owned by Lauda i.e. me. I was input from BB on this matter.

shorena

copper member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 1528

No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: Lauda on August 29, 2014, 08:40:15 AM

Quote from: BadBear on August 29, 2014, 08:28:59 AM

Yeah that's fine, be careful who you trust with your account though, don't count on getting help if the other party steals it, sells it, or loses control of it somehow.

In regards to account recovery,did theymos or someone say somewhere to message Default trust with you address or something?
I did that a while ago. Would Stunna's confirmation that address xxx (listed on profile) was used for payout + me signing a message from it be enough?
I like to be prepared.

The address in your profile can easily be edited if you have lost your account. So can be posts. E.g. I could "quote" one of your posts saying that you own address X and use that later to hijack your account.

The PM to DefaultTrust is probably the only method that can not be manipulated later. As long as DefaultTrust does not delete your PM (not likely since this was suggested by theymos) its still on the server, but can not be edited.

Lauda

legendary

Activity: 2674

Merit: 3000

Terminated.

Quote from: BadBear on August 29, 2014, 08:28:59 AM

Yeah that's fine, be careful who you trust with your account though, don't count on getting help if the other party steals it, sells it, or loses control of it somehow.

In regards to account recovery,did theymos or someone say somewhere to message Default trust with you address or something?
I did that a while ago. Would Stunna's confirmation that address xxx (listed on profile) was used for payout + me signing a message from it be enough?
I like to be prepared.

BadBear

legendary

Activity: 1652

Merit: 1128

Yeah that's fine, be careful who you trust with your account though, don't count on getting help if the other party steals it, sells it, or loses control of it somehow.

Lauda

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Activity: 2674

Merit: 3000

Terminated.

Since I don't want to open a new thread just because of a single question (yet many tend to).
This might have been asked but I'm not sure.
What's the policy per 1 account; are 2 or more persons allowed to use on?
I mean only theymos and The Bear could see the IPs, but still. I'm curious.

shorena

copper member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 1528

No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: dserrano5 on August 28, 2014, 02:26:55 PM

Quote from: mprep on August 28, 2014, 02:10:52 PM

Would you by any chance be using any kind of script blocker, like the NoScript plugin for Firefox or ScriptSafe for Chrome?

Ah, that may be it. For me, the last nail in the coffin was the cosbycoin forum hack, so I'm not enabling JS in the forum even a minute in order to test that

.

I can confirm it does show automatically no matter the settings if javascript from bitcointalk.org is blocked (e.g. with NoScript). If JS is enabled it changes depending on the settings.

dserrano5

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Merit: 1030

Quote from: mprep on August 28, 2014, 02:10:52 PM

Would you by any chance be using any kind of script blocker, like the NoScript plugin for Firefox or ScriptSafe for Chrome?

Ah, that may be it. For me, the last nail in the coffin was the cosbycoin forum hack, so I'm not enabling JS in the forum even a minute in order to test that

.

mprep

global moderator

Activity: 3794

Merit: 2612

In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce

Quote from: dserrano5 on August 28, 2014, 01:12:49 PM

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

and untrusted feedback will be hidden by default. You can view it by clicking the link "Show ratings".

That doesn't happen here. I am shown trusted feedback, then untrusted feedback and then sent feedback. No "Show ratings" link. I looked for some setting that I might have changed and found "Show untrusted feedback by default" in Profile > Forum Profile Information, but I have it unchecked. Just for testing, I checked it and I got the same trust page, unchecked it and again no changes. Huh

Weird, it does for me. Would you by any chance be using any kind of script blocker, like the NoScript plugin for Firefox or ScriptSafe for Chrome?

dserrano5

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Activity: 1974

Merit: 1030

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

and untrusted feedback will be hidden by default. You can view it by clicking the link "Show ratings".

That doesn't happen here. I am shown trusted feedback, then untrusted feedback and then sent feedback. No "Show ratings" link. I looked for some setting that I might have changed and found "Show untrusted feedback by default" in Profile > Forum Profile Information, but I have it unchecked. Just for testing, I checked it and I got the same trust page, unchecked it and again no changes. Huh

shorena

copper member

Activity: 1498

Merit: 1528

No I dont escrow anymore.

Quote from: mprep on August 27, 2014, 02:37:08 PM

Added a link to one question in the FAQ:

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

Q: 50/10 BTC for VIP/donator? Are you all crazy?
A: No, we aren't. Someone who is a donator or a VIP is usually an early adopter and having such a rank means you were either from the start or you contributed a lot in the Bitcoin community. Although, there is a possibility new cheaper ranks will be added.

Wouldnt it be better to quote that? Not that i expect theymos to delete the post. Its the last post on that page, thus if I click the link its not immediatly clear which post you are refering to. It shows half of Rassah's post as well as the on by cbeast. At least on my screen (1280*1024), its probably fine for lower resolutions and worse for higher resolutions.

mprep

global moderator

Activity: 3794

Merit: 2612

In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce

Added a link to one question in the FAQ:

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

Q: 50/10 BTC for VIP/donator? Are you all crazy?
A: No, we aren't. Someone who is a donator or a VIP is usually an early adopter and having such a rank means you were either from the start or you contributed a lot in the Bitcoin community. Although, there is a possibility new cheaper ranks will be added.

mprep

global moderator

Activity: 3794

Merit: 2612

In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce

Quote from: Lauda on August 27, 2014, 02:15:29 PM

I have a question regarding necro-posts. Exactly what duration are we talking about?
Threads that nobody has replied to in 3 months, half a year, a year?
What if a few users follow the first one and reply to it; do we:
a) Report all of those posts;
b) Report none ?

Necro posts are OK as long as they are substantial (don't break the other rules). For example, a non substantial necro would be "This service is good".

Lauda

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Activity: 2674

Merit: 3000

Terminated.

I have a question regarding necro-posts. Exactly what duration are we talking about?
Threads that nobody has replied to in 3 months, half a year, a year?
What if a few users follow the first one and reply to it; do we:
a) Report all of those posts;
b) Report none ?

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