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Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ - page 43. (Read 1055284 times)

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You can create "local" rules to new threads that you create that would apply to that thread only and are in addition to the forum rules.
Self moderated threads were introduced (march 2013 they were introduced I believe). Which effectively allows you to decide your own rules. Local rules may still apply to Scam Accusations, Important Announcements, and Auctions as self moderated threads may not be created in those sections to my knowledge. So, they might be valid everywhere, but most people would just make a self moderated thread instead except where it isn't possible.
This probably eliminates the rule stated. I'm not sure where I've read it but I think that local rules are no longer enforced by moderators.
It was enforced here
I'll have to contact the admins for more info/clarification.
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You can create "local" rules to new threads that you create that would apply to that thread only and are in addition to the forum rules.
Self moderated threads were introduced (march 2013 they were introduced I believe). Which effectively allows you to decide your own rules. Local rules may still apply to Scam Accusations, Important Announcements, and Auctions as self moderated threads may not be created in those sections to my knowledge. So, they might be valid everywhere, but most people would just make a self moderated thread instead except where it isn't possible.
This probably eliminates the rule stated. I'm not sure where I've read it but I think that local rules are no longer enforced by moderators.
It was enforced here
global moderator
Activity: 3794
Merit: 2612
In a world of peaches, don't ask for apple sauce
You can create "local" rules to new threads that you create that would apply to that thread only and are in addition to the forum rules.
Self moderated threads were introduced (march 2013 they were introduced I believe). Which effectively allows you to decide your own rules. Local rules may still apply to Scam Accusations, Important Announcements, and Auctions as self moderated threads may not be created in those sections to my knowledge. So, they might be valid everywhere, but most people would just make a self moderated thread instead except where it isn't possible.
This probably eliminates the rule stated. I'm not sure where I've read it but I think that local rules are no longer enforced by moderators.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
You can create "local" rules to new threads that you create that would apply to that thread only and are in addition to the forum rules.
Self moderated threads were introduced (march 2013 they were introduced I believe). Which effectively allows you to decide your own rules. Local rules may still apply to Scam Accusations, Important Announcements, and Auctions as self moderated threads may not be created in those sections to my knowledge. So, they might be valid everywhere, but most people would just make a self moderated thread instead except where it isn't possible.
There are legit reasons to use a self moderated thread however they are often associated with scams. If someone was concerned about appearing to run some kind of a scam they could open a "regular" thread with local rules.
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You can create "local" rules to new threads that you create that would apply to that thread only and are in addition to the forum rules.
Self moderated threads were introduced (march 2013 they were introduced I believe). Which effectively allows you to decide your own rules. Local rules may still apply to Scam Accusations, Important Announcements, and Auctions as self moderated threads may not be created in those sections to my knowledge. So, they might be valid everywhere, but most people would just make a self moderated thread instead except where it isn't possible.
copper member
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You can create "local" rules to new threads that you create that would apply to that thread only and are in addition to the forum rules.

If the topic post of a topic gives very specific rules for the topic, I will use those rules in addition to the global board policies for that topic. The starter of the topic may not change rules after posting their topic (not even by editing the topic post). Local rules can't specify punishments, though people may be banned for breaking local rules too much.

The rules must be specific enough that it takes less than a few seconds to decide whether a post breaks them. When you report posts like these, you must quote the local rule that was broken. Rules will be ignored if they are not specific enough, or if it takes too much work to enforce them.

It is possible for someone to create a "ruleset" that others can quickly apply to their topics by clearly linking to the ruleset.

(It has always been my policy to enforce local rules, though not many people have created topics with such rules.)
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Yes. Same infraction. Think people may have been banned for not doing that as well, though most seem to do it once they're aware of policy.
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They do get warnings sometimes. I try to PM or post in their thread about the 24 hour rules as many don't know about it, but even after a warning some still do it and those are usually given a short ban (3-5 days or something). I like to post the warning so I can keep an eye to see if they took the advice or not.
Would they get warnings even if they bump every 24 hours but don't delete their old bumps?
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They do get warnings sometimes. I try to PM or post in their thread about the 24 hour rules as many don't know about it, but even after a warning some still do it and those are usually given a short ban (3-5 days or something). I like to post the warning so I can keep an eye to see if they took the advice or not.
hero member
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?
I report old bumps as well and they seem to eventually get deleted. I don't think the lack of deleting a bump is going to be something that someone gets banned for though

I understand that, I don't expect people to be, I'm assuming they'll just get a warning or a PM reminding them not to do it. I'm guessing most people probably don't even know they're doing anything wrong in the first place, considering this thread only has 8000 views. The rules are surprisingly difficult to find on this forum, they aren't even stickied.
I doubt they will even get a warning. A moderator will probably just delete them as they are reported.

I received a PM last time one of my posts was deleted and it didn't even break any rules, I doubt they would delete without some sort of notification. I'm not even sure if there is an actual warning/infraction system or if everything is done via PM, I'm unfamiliar with SMF.
copper member
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?
I report old bumps as well and they seem to eventually get deleted. I don't think the lack of deleting a bump is going to be something that someone gets banned for though

I understand that, I don't expect people to be, I'm assuming they'll just get a warning or a PM reminding them not to do it. I'm guessing most people probably don't even know they're doing anything wrong in the first place, considering this thread only has 8000 views. The rules are surprisingly difficult to find on this forum, they aren't even stickied.
I doubt they will even get a warning. A moderator will probably just delete them as they are reported.
hero member
Activity: 908
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?
I report old bumps as well and they seem to eventually get deleted. I don't think the lack of deleting a bump is going to be something that someone gets banned for though

I understand that, I don't expect people to be, I'm assuming they'll just get a warning or a PM reminding them not to do it. I'm guessing most people probably don't even know they're doing anything wrong in the first place, considering this thread only has 8000 views. The rules are surprisingly difficult to find on this forum, they aren't even stickied.
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?

Yes it is. I always report them and they're handled eventually and I handle the ones I can (made by newbies), but I think there's a lack of Global Moderators and Marketplace mods that can handle them, not to mention they're probably not a top priority and deleting posts, especially many, takes longer than dealing with other reports etc.
copper member
Activity: 2996
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?
I report old bumps as well and they seem to eventually get deleted. I don't think the lack of deleting a bump is going to be something that someone gets banned for though
hero member
Activity: 908
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Is rule 21 actually enforced? Very few people follow it, and the couple of times I have reported it, nothing seemed to be done. Is it worth reporting at all?
legendary
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It doesn't really. People will still complain regardless, but one thing I've learned is that whatever we do - even when it is the best interests of the forum - someone will always complain when they don't like the outcome and there's always going to be at least one party that doesn't, so we can't win whatever happens. I don't believe we are selectively enforcing the rules or are any of the staff abusing their power to my knowledge and what was done was the right thing, but of course you will always disagree with that.

So wait, this isn't about the rules being written down now for everyone to see, this is about me and my incident now? Must be convenient to take action against someone like me, then you can write off everything I say as just a reaction to some passed event and ignore what was actually said. After all, if it is in reaction to something obviously it is incoherent and not worth addressing unless to make a personal attack right?

I wonder what kind of governments have laws which are unwritten and must be constantly guessed about by the population.... doesn't sound like a very reliable place. Making the rules unwritten may make things A LOT easier for you, but if it makes no difference and some one will complain anyway, why is it you insist on subjecting everyone to unwritten, non uniform, unpredictable enforcement for rules they don't even know exist?
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It doesn't really. People will still complain regardless, but one thing I've learned is that whatever we do - even when it is the best interests of the forum - someone will always complain when they don't like the outcome and there's always going to be at least one party that doesn't, so we can't win whatever happens. I don't believe we are selectively enforcing the rules or are any of the staff abusing their power to my knowledge and what was done was the right thing, but of course you will always disagree with that.
legendary
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I think that was stated because, for example, if the admins state making shitposts exclusively in off-topic is likely to get you banned people will then try avoid making shitposts in offtopic and do them in the alt coin sub or whatever etc. The rules aren't there to try purposely catch people out but to limit people bending the rules or attempting to bypass them and limit people from attempting to protest their innocence by trying to bring up technicalities because of "the rules".
Since the moderators are enforcing all of this them selves, what exactly is the problem if people make claims against mods? It is not like they have the power to make you follow your own rules or anything. It seems to me this is just a way to selectively enforce the rules.
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I voted to stickie

However,

4. No referral code (ref link)

I am so mixed about this. As the absolutely most prominent site for bitcoins talk and chatter. We all understand a good portion of this industry (Outside of trading) is based on referrals. I find it both hard to accept and a blessing that this rule exists. I would say there should be a section for this, however it would also be useless. I think people should have the ability to post their referral link if posting about a site that works for them. Unfortunately the spamming cant be controlled. It is a real crap house of indifference when it comes to referral links.

Its sad the children have ruined this in the way they did. 
The rule doesn't prohibit ref links, it prohibits ref link spam, as in posts dedicated to advertising a service, low quality threads dedicated to ref links, etc.
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I voted to stickie

However,

4. No referral code (ref link)

Its sad the children have ruined this in the way they did. 

You can post ref links but only if it's relevant to the thread. Ie if someone asks what is the best dicesite people can post their ref links for PrimeDice or whatever.

Ref links can also go in the signature.
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