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hero member
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One of the common issues or thing that do happen into this forum is that there are people who do make out a new account, telling some issues or problems on a certain site without being mindful on giving out some updates
basing up into the condition or situation that they are facing,whether its been that resolved out or still pending. They would really be that forgetting on which making the community would really be left hanging
and keeps puzzled whether it has been that solved or not. Usually these kind of issues raised up into those sites on which arent that heard off into this forum or not really that simply a popular thing.
One of the main issues on this one is on the moment that you would really be dealing up with sites which arent that known here on this forum. One of the main risks that you would be able to encounter.
It seems that this case is not resolved based on reviews from several members who provided information regarding withdrawal limits that are not updated in the rules and withdrawal limits on the account, we hope for a response from the OP to respond regarding this problem but he will not return and maybe he will continue to withdraw all the funds every day even though the withdrawal limit is still low. Gambling at non-reputable and trusted casinos is very risky because the rules are unclear, the games are detrimental to gamblers, and many other things are unfair to gamblers. So leave the obscure casinos behind and we have a list of top crypto casinos here and you are free to choose any of them because they already have positive feedback and trust.
hero member
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

OP was last active on June 28, 2024. Indeed it would be nice to hear from him, whether he withdrew his money and whether he stopped playing on that site. I know from my own experience that if I initially have some problems with withdrawing my funds for a gambling site, but they allow me to withdraw everything I want eventually, I don't leave the site. But, of course, that's if the site has indisputable reputation. Just allowing me to withdraw my money wouldn't be enough.
One of the common issues or thing that do happen into this forum is that there are people who do make out a new account, telling some issues or problems on a certain site without being mindful on giving out some updates
basing up into the condition or situation that they are facing,whether its been that resolved out or still pending. They would really be that forgetting on which making the community would really be left hanging
and keeps puzzled whether it has been that solved or not. Usually these kind of issues raised up into those sites on which arent that heard off into this forum or not really that simply a popular thing.
One of the main issues on this one is on the moment that you would really be dealing up with sites which arent that known here on this forum. One of the main risks that you would be able to encounter.

If you dont like to experience headaches and problems or issues with things then it would really be better that you should really be sticking into those popular or simply known into this forum
on which you could really be able to read up feedbacks and real experiences from people here on this forum. There's soo much difference when it comes tot his aspect because this is where
you would really be getting your basis whether you should be playing or not. Why would go into those new or unheard of?
legendary
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.

OP was last active on June 28, 2024. Indeed it would be nice to hear from him, whether he withdrew his money and whether he stopped playing on that site. I know from my own experience that if I initially have some problems with withdrawing my funds for a gambling site, but they allow me to withdraw everything I want eventually, I don't leave the site. But, of course, that's if the site has indisputable reputation. Just allowing me to withdraw my money wouldn't be enough.
hero member
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You are making a good point my brother and I've iterated similar points on the forums. You see, casinos/sportsbooks are seriously underregulated, which is why there are no basis and warnings, otherwise, they would have sat more uprightly. They will not dare to do some ugly things because regulations will be closely monitoring them just like the CBN is watching and monitoring banks, they will easily detect issues. And even if they do not detect some issues, there will be avenues where customers can log their complaints, and when it has gotten to a high alarming rate, the regulators will act.

By then, such casinos/sportsbooks could be hit with heavy fines to the tune of millions of dollars, will they dare to try that openly again? I guess not. But for the lack of that, that's why they can update their terms and conditions among others and be silent about it, this is awkward in monetary deals. The standard procedures force them to duly notify all their customers by any means necessary and ensure that they accept it before they can continue with their company. Sadly, I only see this in financial and trading activities, and with a very minute percentage of betting platforms I've played with.
Even in my country all i heard about casinos` fines - were with big bettors. If your standard bet $5-50 - you is nobody for casino, without any rights. ToS is written for casino and, sometimes, for big boys.
Even in my country i willn`t go to the court - even if i win - it would be about $100-500 and at least several month of work.  And if the casino license in the Curacao - just forget it.
hero member
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Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.

We hope that every time the rules are changed/updated or additional rules must be notified via email or there will be a special notification displayed when the customer logs in to the account, but in reality there is no notification regarding changes to the rules and the rules are unfair because they set daily withdrawal limits and reduce the amount maximum withdrawal per week or month. Nobody will accept the change even though the team has the right to change the rules as they wish, but we also have the right to switch to a casino that has a better reputation, is trustworthy, and respects fair rules for customers.
You are making a good point my brother and I've iterated similar points on the forums. You see, casinos/sportsbooks are seriously underregulated, which is why there are no basis and warnings, otherwise, they would have sat more uprightly. They will not dare to do some ugly things because regulations will be closely monitoring them just like the CBN is watching and monitoring banks, they will easily detect issues. And even if they do not detect some issues, there will be avenues where customers can log their complaints, and when it has gotten to a high alarming rate, the regulators will act.

By then, such casinos/sportsbooks could be hit with heavy fines to the tune of millions of dollars, will they dare to try that openly again? I guess not. But for the lack of that, that's why they can update their terms and conditions among others and be silent about it, this is awkward in monetary deals. The standard procedures force them to duly notify all their customers by any means necessary and ensure that they accept it before they can continue with their company. Sadly, I only see this in financial and trading activities, and with a very minute percentage of betting platforms I've played with.
hero member
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The fact remains that we should avoid new casinos, but in times when we must use them, start with a very small amount of money, one you are absolutely comfortable losing just incase you wake up one morning and the casino site refuses to open, you don't start panicking.
At the end this is what matters, making a deposit in a new casino can be exciting as you do not know what kind of games they may have at their disposal, but it is precisely because you do not know what it may happen that you need to be very cautious when dealing with them, and this is a clear case about it, since there is no one that in their right mind will want to go through what the OP is going through, as having such a low withdrawal limit makes very difficult for high rollers to ever withdraw their winnings from that casino.
If you are really that a fan of testing out some new platforms or sites then it's not bad on taking up such step or move since each one of us does have that different kind of approach and preference on things and that's why even if we are aware that it's risky on dealing up with new sites but somehow you do able to see something interesting and this is why you do really end up on having that kind of engagement toward new platforms, but the ideal approach on their one is that's you do know on how to assess things on which you do make out some small deposits for the sake of testing out.

Never ever make out that kind of all in kind of deposit on which at the moment you do find yourself having that huge deposits and ended up on having locked up funds then it would really be that an unfortunate thing.
legendary
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The fact remains that we should avoid new casinos, but in times when we must use them, start with a very small amount of money, one you are absolutely comfortable losing just incase you wake up one morning and the casino site refuses to open, you don't start panicking.
At the end this is what matters, making a deposit in a new casino can be exciting as you do not know what kind of games they may have at their disposal, but it is precisely because you do not know what it may happen that you need to be very cautious when dealing with them, and this is a clear case about it, since there is no one that in their right mind will want to go through what the OP is going through, as having such a low withdrawal limit makes very difficult for high rollers to ever withdraw their winnings from that casino.
sr. member
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Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.

We hope that every time the rules are changed/updated or additional rules must be notified via email or there will be a special notification displayed when the customer logs in to the account, but in reality there is no notification regarding changes to the rules and the rules are unfair because they set daily withdrawal limits and reduce the amount maximum withdrawal per week or month. Nobody will accept the change even though the team has the right to change the rules as they wish, but we also have the right to switch to a casino that has a better reputation, is trustworthy, and respects fair rules for customers.

It is no problem casino changing their rules at any time. Terms and conditions of service are subject to changes as they are just temporary as stated by some casinos  and it is their right to do so but it would be nice that prior to changing the terms and conditions, their members or clients should be fully in the know so that they do not get stucked up or trapped in the course of gambling that has to do with the casino having in mind to check for the current changes. These are the problems that occurs between casinos and their client for change of policy without sending a memo for such actions.

legendary
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If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.

Can you tell me if they change their terms of service for all the users or changed (apply) different  terms & conditions for different users in order to avoid the users making withdrawals and other stuff?

Sudden changes in TOS are not acceptable and that too without intimation. Yeah sometimes a casino generally wants to change a rule but for that they should tell everyone in advance that from that day, these news terms and conditions are implemented, Changing them without informing and often, is not acceptable and it comes under the definition of scam.  Shocked
From what I know or have learnt so far, it seems to me that the terms and conditions was changed generally for all users and even potential users, I actually visited the casino and took a glimpse on the terms and conditions, and what was written there is the new one, and not the old one, which means that the terms were changed for all, and not for one user or some few selected ones.

And you are right about casinos communicating their intentions of new rules to their users before formerly updating their terms and conditions with such rules and implementing it into their system.
But then, its quite unfortunate that not every casino will follow or obey this process as several of them value their users differently, and also important to understand is that, casinos with no intention of serving customers for a long time, will sure do what ever they want with their term and conditions, as long as it favors them and helps them in achieving whatever their mission is.

The fact remains that we should avoid new casinos, but in times when we must use them, start with a very small amount of money, one you are absolutely comfortable losing just incase you wake up one morning and the casino site refuses to open, you don't start panicking.
hero member
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If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.
Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.
Common, changing withdrawal limit several times per month means that they have really problems with the honesty. It is possible on the beginning, when they are trying to understand what sums are comfortable to the casino.


Can you tell me if they change their terms of service for all the users or changed (apply) different  terms & conditions for different users in order to avoid the users making withdrawals and other stuff?

Sudden changes in TOS are not acceptable and that too without intimation. Yeah sometimes a casino generally wants to change a rule but for that they should tell everyone in advance that from that day, these news terms and conditions are implemented, Changing them without informing and often, is not acceptable and it comes under the definition of scam.  Shocked
I didn`t control the ToS, but as i see, these changes are noticed by other members, so i think it means, that it is common withdrawal changes.



Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.
That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.
Yep, it would be nice to hear the OP. I can only recommend to use another casino for gambling. And withdraw money as fast as possible.
legendary
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I stand with Ukraine.
Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it.

That's right, but he can't just forget when a lot of his money stuck in the casino. He should withdraw all his funds from there first. An update from the OP would be welcome, because many of us here sympathise with his situation. Even those condemning him for depositing such a big amount on an unknown site still want him well.

Just leave this threads and bump it sometimes to help other users to avoid this casino.

That's what we are doing by posting in this thread, we are bumping it to other people's attention.
hero member
Activity: 2282
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Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.

We hope that every time the rules are changed/updated or additional rules must be notified via email or there will be a special notification displayed when the customer logs in to the account, but in reality there is no notification regarding changes to the rules and the rules are unfair because they set daily withdrawal limits and reduce the amount maximum withdrawal per week or month. Nobody will accept the change even though the team has the right to change the rules as they wish, but we also have the right to switch to a casino that has a better reputation, is trustworthy, and respects fair rules for customers.
hero member
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If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.

Can you tell me if they change their terms of service for all the users or changed (apply) different  terms & conditions for different users in order to avoid the users making withdrawals and other stuff?

Sudden changes in TOS are not acceptable and that too without intimation. Yeah sometimes a casino generally wants to change a rule but for that they should tell everyone in advance that from that day, these news terms and conditions are implemented, Changing them without informing and often, is not acceptable and it comes under the definition of scam.  Shocked
legendary
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it. Just leave this threads and bump it sometimes to help other users to avoid this casino.
Agreed, just leave casinos that don't consistently enforce their own ToS rules and those casinos tend to change points of rules for their own benefit but these changes will be detrimental to customers, but they don't care about that because they think they already have lots of gambling members. We have several top casinos here that have been recommended for crypto gambling, so choose one that suits your wishes, I will recommend Duelbits casino which has the best trust and reputation in this forum.
If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.

Changing/updating the rules several times is not the main problem as long as it is not a sudden change/update, at least prior announcement should be made before the change.
The main issue with this topic is that the casino change/update the term/rule suddenly upon withdrawal request by players.
This is because any casino usually has a term say that they reserve the right to change/update the term anytime but I think it should be done fairly.
For such important thing, it should be announced publicly earlier or at least inform players earlier by sending email so players still have a time to take a decision related to the upcoming change.
hero member
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it. Just leave this threads and bump it sometimes to help other users to avoid this casino.
Agreed, just leave casinos that don't consistently enforce their own ToS rules and those casinos tend to change points of rules for their own benefit but these changes will be detrimental to customers, but they don't care about that because they think they already have lots of gambling members. We have several top casinos here that have been recommended for crypto gambling, so choose one that suits your wishes, I will recommend Duelbits casino which has the best trust and reputation in this forum.
If they change rules several times per month, it means that it is impossible to believe them. It is cheating from the beginning. So when you need to withdraw your money you can get new rules, your bet can be cancelled because they decide it was fixed match, or they can decide that it is strange bet, etc.
I don`t understand why someone continue to register in such casinos, when there is such board.
hero member
Activity: 2282
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Just forget it. There are lots of other casinos, where there are normal withdrawal limits. When casino change their ToS every week, you risk your money everyday - no one knows what they change next time. They have no representative, no ANN thread, gamblers have problems with it. Just leave this threads and bump it sometimes to help other users to avoid this casino.
Agreed, just leave casinos that don't consistently enforce their own ToS rules and those casinos tend to change points of rules for their own benefit but these changes will be detrimental to customers, but they don't care about that because they think they already have lots of gambling members. We have several top casinos here that have been recommended for crypto gambling, so choose one that suits your wishes, I will recommend Duelbits casino which has the best trust and reputation in this forum.
hero member
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Why would a high roller want a max of $500 daily or $10,000 monthly, that makes absolutely no sense.
Start taking your money out and read reviews here on the gambling section of bitcointalk. Stake would be where i’d feel comfortable making larger sum deposits.
Not only Stake but there are a lot of options available if someone checks in the gambling section of this forum. It's an overall bad decision to choose a new and not very widely used cryptocurrency exchange for your gambling activities, especially when you are willing to make large deposits as you said.
Well, mentioning Stake by @Ultimatepoker is his own decision and I think you should have let it remain like that as that is a very well-thought decision and they may not even know much about the others you are talking about. Better still, he could have done the arithmetic on the pros and cons of them to have resorted to Stake alone. There are numerous reasons to choose Stake, especially when it comes to liquidity. Most casinos are greedy so soon because they can't always take care of the liquidity trying to be drawn from them by some winners, but when the casinos are big enough, such as Stake, such are not rampantly happening when you use the customer base proportion to judge and not the number of complainants alone because Stake has so many customers.

As for the small casinos, well, a few of them can still live up to the expectations, but generally, they are discouraging judging by what many of them have done.
hero member
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Thing is this site isn't even reputed here in this forum, nor did we know shit about this casino, you might've fallen victim to a scam site, but you either played with them for a long while now to trust them enough that you'd deposit 21000 USD without even batting an eye, or you're a batshit idiot who rush things headlong not knowing nor thinking if there were repercussions, either way, what I would like you to do is first, try to withdraw up to the casino's limit. If they allow you to do take out the money there's a good enough chance you're dealing with an obscure yet slightly reputable site, although the process doesn't end there. What I want you to do next is to check if they have a customer service representative, ask them if there's any way they can bump up your withdrawal limit so as to meet your requests, and wait.

Some casinos after a rigorous KYC will allow you to receive a massive bump in your withdrawal limit, although honestly I don't even see the point of such a low amount especially since if this is a crypto casino there's no real way you can use it to launder money, which is the very reason why KYC-AML parameters are set in casinos nowadays. All of this rings scam to me and you might've just lost a huge amount.
legendary
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The problem is more than withdrawal limits though..

The thing is betiro supposedly changed their limits without updating their fine prints e.g. tos, etc. so how would op know about such limits? I've seen many platforms roll out rules change but such don't go live when the fine prints have not been updated yet. Some may even send out notification before the update.

Can't speak for others but to me, it's s a shady behavior. OP disappeared though so I'm wondering about the authenticity of such claim but for the most part probably won't play at betiro.
Thank you for telling me the clear information in the thread. The context of casinos updating or modifying ToS without the consent of their customers has been discussed many times here. I think there's a dedicated thread for that.
If some casinos are in the habit of silently modifying their ToS, then gamblers should demand that casinos should have a downloadable ToS, such that the gambler will have their own copy of the ToS, if there's modification and casino denies, the gambler will have an evidence.

Its another level of cheating since for changing those terms without notifying their costumer it will possibly create certain conflict to the activities done by their people which could lead for certain issue of their users. We see multiple scam casino do this and provably we all know that this action is made by those casino which doesn't plan to run a good business. I don't usually spend some time to copy the TOS of the casino but we can avoid to encounter this kind of issue if we gamble only on trusted casinos.

Those people who usually encounter a problem gamble on those unfamiliar casino. We should eliminate those actions that casinos are the same and we must verify their reputation so we can avoid any potential scams.

It is true that it is much better to stick to casinos with good reputation, good community and good advertising here. But even in that case, it is usual not to fully read the Terms of Service of all sites you use. I reckon that if you are using a casino it is one of those placed you would really need to read, but sometimes it is not that easy. Just do not trust sites that provide unclear information.
hero member
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The problem is more than withdrawal limits though..

The thing is betiro supposedly changed their limits without updating their fine prints e.g. tos, etc. so how would op know about such limits? I've seen many platforms roll out rules change but such don't go live when the fine prints have not been updated yet. Some may even send out notification before the update.

Can't speak for others but to me, it's s a shady behavior. OP disappeared though so I'm wondering about the authenticity of such claim but for the most part probably won't play at betiro.
Thank you for telling me the clear information in the thread. The context of casinos updating or modifying ToS without the consent of their customers has been discussed many times here. I think there's a dedicated thread for that.
If some casinos are in the habit of silently modifying their ToS, then gamblers should demand that casinos should have a downloadable ToS, such that the gambler will have their own copy of the ToS, if there's modification and casino denies, the gambler will have an evidence.

Its another level of cheating since for changing those terms without notifying their costumer it will possibly create certain conflict to the activities done by their people which could lead for certain issue of their users. We see multiple scam casino do this and provably we all know that this action is made by those casino which doesn't plan to run a good business. I don't usually spend some time to copy the TOS of the casino but we can avoid to encounter this kind of issue if we gamble only on trusted casinos.

Those people who usually encounter a problem gamble on those unfamiliar casino. We should eliminate those actions that casinos are the same and we must verify their reputation so we can avoid any potential scams.
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