When I see this topic I cant stop to laugh
beat this;
Bytecoin
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#bytecoin1
Monero
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#monero
Topic: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam - page 37. (Read 69429 times)
Here's a twisted theory though. What if Cheesus, Hexah, Rias, Wassnet, et. all are behind the botnets, they actually want to support XMR, not hurt it, and their effort here actually is intended to promote XMR?
It's absolutely brilliant!
In that case, I say, thank you guys! Just keep doing what you're doing.
It's absolutely brilliant!
In that case, I say, thank you guys! Just keep doing what you're doing.
Although that would be genius and I would like to see someone actually execute such a feat...I suspect they are not that bright.
Well people will always fight here from the looks of it. Whatever the 'shills' say bad about Monero it won't have almost any effect on it really.
Why would someone with common sense listen to puppet accounts/newbies/members?
Instead of fighting there should be cooperation and better thing could come out for the whole crypto scene.
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech
Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!
What we meant is that such an absurd thread is doing the reverse of what they are trying to achieve.
Exactly!
Here's a twisted theory though. What if Cheesus, Hexah, Rias, Wassnet, et. all are behind the botnets, they actually want to support XMR, not hurt it, and their effort here actually is intended to promote XMR?
It's absolutely brilliant!
In that case, I say, thank you guys! Just keep doing what you're doing.
Although that would be genius and I would like to see someone actually execute such a feat...I suspect they are not that bright.
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech
Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!
What we meant is that such an absurd thread is doing the reverse of what they are trying to achieve.
Exactly!
Here's a twisted theory though. What if Cheesus, Hexah, Rias, Wassnet, et. all are behind the botnets, they actually want to support XMR, not hurt it, and their effort here actually is intended to promote XMR?
It's absolutely brilliant!
In that case, I say, thank you guys! Just keep doing what you're doing.
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech
Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!
What we meant is that such an absurd thread is doing the reverse of what they are trying to achieve. It's also giving me the idea about a song written from the point of view of a bcn shill to expose their premine and their idiotic thinking
It would be entitled "BLACK PR" and would start with something like this:
Browsing bitcointalk, threads about XMR everywhere....
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech
Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!
Who said those guys are working in co-operation with you and the rest of the monero heavy posters. Didn't say they were on the payroll. This drama is great news for cryptonote.
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech
Yes, Cheesus, Hexah, and Rias are Monero shill accounts. You figured it out, congrats!
Why don' you just accept the fact that no one wants to use something that is 80+% pre mined and that trying to prop it up at the expense of XMR any longer is going to be nothing but a waste of effort?
Because scorched earth and the type of megalomanic who thinks he can pull off a hidden 82% premine by lying to the entire world creating a fake blockchain, fake documents, fake websites and organzations (cryptonote foundation? plua-ese), etc. to back it up is likely prone to anger when the world does not bow to his obvious greatness.
I appreciate their unintentional support though. Nobody attacks an unsuccessful coin. I don't even bother to try to educate people about the bytecoin fraud any more. It just isn't worth the effort for a $60/day coin.
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
Yes, this has to be marketing for XMR, or at least CN. Intentionally creating a bit of buzz and mystery to this saga. Does a great job for proliferation of this tech
We need someone to create lyrics about this thread, then hire a singer and make a song about all this craziness. This has the potential to become zhoutonged material. I'm already ready to donate.
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
The picture is very nice. Dont forget to mention rpietilia though!
I love the idea of "Black PR hype". Keep the good work guys!
I am going to focus on the botnet issue because it is the only valid criticism I have seen of XMR among pages and pages of anti XMR posts. As fluffypony has correctly pointed out above virtually every POW coin and all POS coins are vulnerable to this. The notable exceptions at this point is XBT, and coins such as NMC that are merged mined with XBT because of ASIC mining. To understand and deal with this issue we must go to the root cause and recognize a fundamental flaw in distributed crypto currency models:
The solution here is to move the functions critical to the security of a coin away from DRM infected propriety operating systems such as Microsoft Windows to FLOSS operating systems such as GNU/Linux. In particular with a POW coin this means mining. This can be accomplished in a CPU / GPU coin by developing, releasing and supporting mining software only on GNU/Linux, and even going as far as avoiding cross platform development tools for the mining components. Making the mining software highly optimized for GNU/Linux. Targeting the ARM platform for mining is also a possibility. The idea is to make mining the coin far more efficient on GNU/Linux than on Microsoft Windows thereby putting botnets at a significant disadvantage.
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This excludes that vast majority including over 98% of desktop / laptop computers running propriety Microsoft Windows or OS X
Since when do people not get root access on OSX or have control of their system? Sure Apple has a walled garden with gatekeeper and AMFI by default, a user can override this if they wish. It's not really DRM as much as it is codesigning enforcement.
All coins are of course vulnerable to botnet mining, CPU coins especially so. The largest XMR miner on minergate, botnet also. There are numerous ones mining XMR, and more will come for sure as the coin increases in value & exposure. I don't see it as huge issue personally, botherder tend to dump regularly instead of hoard. In some cases the market will feel no impact, because smart accumulator comes along with some webmoney to speak with, for all he knows is a AWS miner. Trying (and failing) to relegate CPU/GPU PoW on 'gnu/linux' than windows won't fix anything in long-term and it simply creates an uneven playing field and diminishes the user base
Lol trade volume isn't faked. I've been buying. Not a surprise it has daily trade volume that dwarfs any other coin on poloniex.
OP wouldn't know this because he probably can't buy a fraction of the daily trade volume ...so obviously it must be faked lol
OP wouldn't know this because he probably can't buy a fraction of the daily trade volume ...so obviously it must be faked lol
The picture omitted the important fact that I buy up all the coins every day, and the fraud will be perpetuated as long as I have money. Request addition. 
I'm sure you've heard of the proverb of what happens between FOOLS<->MONEY....
The picture omitted the important fact that I buy up all the coins every day, and the fraud will be perpetuated as long as I have money. Request addition.
I am very concerned about this.
But seriously, I refuse to discard a coin just because it's botnet mined.
Other stuff... I will keep an eye on it. Something isn't quite fitting.
But seriously, I refuse to discard a coin just because it's botnet mined.
Other stuff... I will keep an eye on it. Something isn't quite fitting.
What isn't fitting?
Perhaps the insane FUD campaign against this coin isn't quite fitting, I actually see it as a metric of how valid this coin really is.
The more people that fight us shows just how many people are going to be displaced by us.
I am very concerned about this.
But seriously, I refuse to discard a coin just because it's botnet mined.
Other stuff... I will keep an eye on it. Something isn't quite fitting.
But seriously, I refuse to discard a coin just because it's botnet mined.
Other stuff... I will keep an eye on it. Something isn't quite fitting.
Hahaha using a graph that goes to the 20. August when its the 26. August today, you guys are really so fucking stupid.
Well... this is August 26th
As you can see the price is going down... and you know why? Because Monero is a scam.
Who cares if a botnet mines Monero? 99% of all coins have for sure been mined by botnets. Even bitcoin.
I'd say the botnet operators are smart and knows how to make money, that's why they mine it.
I'd say the botnet operators are smart and knows how to make money, that's why they mine it.
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