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April 01, 2016, 07:23:28 PM




W Bush's brain: Don't vote for TRUMP. Vote for [    ]








GOP Elites for the steal–
Karl Rove says a “fresh face” in Cleveland might just be the thing we need to turn this election around.
The Examiner reported:

    One thing that unites many supporters of Donald Trump and Ted Cruz is the suspicion that party elders might try to hand the Republican presidential nomination to another candidate if neither Trump nor Cruz arrives in Cleveland with the 1,237 delegates required to win.

Important voices in the conservative world have voiced such concerns. Rush Limbaugh, for one, has speculated that the Republican establishment will try to “install whoever they want” at a contested convention. (Limbaugh guessed such a final choice might be Jeb Bush or Paul Ryan.)

Now Karl Rove, a man many view as the physical embodiment of the establishment, has poured gallons of fuel on the Republican fire. Appearing on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show Thursday evening, Rove said a “fresh face” chosen at the convention might turn the GOP’s fortunes around and win in November.

    If we have somebody who we think has, has been battle-tested, and has strong conservative principles and the ability to articulate them, and they are nominated at this convention, there will be a lot of acrimony from the people who were seeking the nomination. But if it’s somebody who has, you know, has those convictions that they can express in a compelling way, we could come out of the convention in relatively strong position … And a fresh face might be the thing that could give us a chance to turn this election and win in November against Hillary.


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/gop-elite-karl-rove-says-fresh-face-convention-might-best-party/


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TRUMP is no friend of the GOPe


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April 01, 2016, 07:14:35 PM



#TheChalkening: Old Row’s quest to make Liberals cringe



For the past week, wimpy college students at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia have been screaming bloody murder at the sight of Donald Trump’s name on their sidewalks. These students have gone before James Wagner, president of Emory, and petitioned to keep anything Donald Trump out of Emory. These students have asked for safe spaces and counseling for those ‘traumatized’ by these chalkings. In response, James Wagner wrote this on one of the sidewalks next to the anti-Trump petitioners:




























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April 01, 2016, 07:00:35 PM
You sure? Doubt he will bring that type of change if he gets in office. He benefited from the system all his life. Why change it now? I believe reason why the establishment doesn't want trump in power is because they can't control him. Not like most other politicians. He looks like a loose cannon to them. Saying whatever is convenient for him at the time. But that doesn't mean he is very different from the rest of the establishment. Or the other donors and owners. How many politicians has he personally bought for example? And what did he ask of them?

Really?  We have the loose cannon in office right now.  He is called Obama.

There is another looser cannon waiting.  That's called Hillary.

I think what you mean to say is Trump isn't "Their loose cannon."

Agreed. Obama and clinton are bought and paid for. Nothing much will come out of them. And trump isn't the establishment's loose cannon. Sure. But the distinction I'm trying to make is that it may not matter. It doesn't make much difference, if he thinks and acts like the owners of the system anyway. Because he is one of them.


Why would one of them be targeted by them, if he is one of them?

GOP: 565M for negative campaign against TRUMP so far.


 
legendary
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April 01, 2016, 06:54:01 PM
You sure? Doubt he will bring that type of change if he gets in office. He benefited from the system all his life. Why change it now? I believe reason why the establishment doesn't want trump in power is because they can't control him. Not like most other politicians. He looks like a loose cannon to them. Saying whatever is convenient for him at the time. But that doesn't mean he is very different from the rest of the establishment. Or the other donors and owners. How many politicians has he personally bought for example? And what did he ask of them?

Really?  We have the loose cannon in office right now.  He is called Obama.

There is another looser cannon waiting.  That's called Hillary.

I think what you mean to say is Trump isn't "Their loose cannon."

Agreed. Obama and clinton are bought and paid for. Nothing much will come out of them. And trump isn't the establishment's loose cannon. Sure. But the distinction I'm trying to make is that it may not matter. It doesn't make much difference, if he thinks and acts like the owners of the system anyway. Because he is one of them.
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April 01, 2016, 06:36:21 PM










Thank you all for contributing in the conversation




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legendary
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April 01, 2016, 06:33:29 PM
You sure? Doubt he will bring that type of change if he gets in office. He benefited from the system all his life. Why change it now? I believe reason why the establishment doesn't want trump in power is because they can't control him. Not like most other politicians. He looks like a loose cannon to them. Saying whatever is convenient for him at the time. But that doesn't mean he is very different from the rest of the establishment. Or the other donors and owners. How many politicians has he personally bought for example? And what did he ask of them?

Really?  We have the loose cannon in office right now.  He is called Obama.

There is another looser cannon waiting.  That's called Hillary.

I think what you mean to say is Trump isn't "Their loose cannon."
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April 01, 2016, 06:30:18 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.

Were they way, way more potent than getting behind Social Security reform?

(Yes, that's a hint.)


560+ millions of TRUMP hubris bashing, non stop. From the GOP. They are contemplating cheating him because they could not stop him. That tells me he is the real man for DNA level splicing of the system.




You sure? Doubt he will bring that type of change if he gets in office. He benefited from the system all his life. Why change it now? I believe reason why the establishment doesn't want trump in power is because they can't control him. Not like most other politicians. He looks like a loose cannon to them. Saying whatever is convenient for him at the time. But that doesn't mean he is very different from the rest of the establishment. Or the other donors and owners. How many politicians has he personally bought for example? And what did he ask of them?

The establishment will be on the DNA splicing table. And this is not just in the USA...


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April 01, 2016, 06:12:46 PM
560+ millions of TRUMP hubris bashing, non stop. From the GOP. They are contemplating cheating him because they could not stop him. That tells me he is the real man for DNA level splicing of the system.

All righty; I'm observing, not lobbying. Fancy that. Cheesy

To be honest, a lot of Donald Trump's campaign strategy can be figured out simply by reading The Art Of The Deal. Its kernel, I'm sure, is his advice to walk around the neighbourhood and get a feel for it and its inhabitants before buying a building. He's prolly had his poll-dependent rivals pegged as that newly-minted MBAer working for Prudential REIT that he lobbed off an apartment building to when he was still working with his dad.

This and no more has been his "secret sauce." He walked around the political "neighbourhood" and used his entrepreneurial skills to find out that there were a whole slew of folks that were all-but disenfranchised - and were really angry about it. His own view of the world aligning with theirs, he built his entire campaign representing them in a way that a poll-drive candidate would not have dreamed of.

The only question remaining: will his quintessentially entrepreneurial approach to campaigning - latching on to a populace that feels disenfranchised and re-enfranchising them - scale? Will it work in the general election?

To be honest, I don't know - and I'm someone who cheerfully bet money that Mr. Trump would win the Pubbie nomination a/o six months ago.


Every single step, the attacks, crisis, faux pas, foxnews kelly -TRUMP wars, all are written in his book. He said this much himself. No secrets.

The hubris was for the GOPe not to read the book.


 Cheesy


legendary
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April 01, 2016, 06:06:35 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.

Were they way, way more potent than getting behind Social Security reform?

(Yes, that's a hint.)


560+ millions of TRUMP hubris bashing, non stop. From the GOP. They are contemplating cheating him because they could not stop him. That tells me he is the real man for DNA level splicing of the system.




You sure? Doubt he will bring that type of change if he gets in office. He benefited from the system all his life. Why change it now? I believe reason why the establishment doesn't want trump in power is because they can't control him. Not like most other politicians. He looks like a loose cannon to them. Saying whatever is convenient for him at the time. But that doesn't mean he is very different from the rest of the establishment. Or the other donors and owners. How many politicians has he personally bought for example? And what did he ask of them?
legendary
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April 01, 2016, 06:06:06 PM
560+ millions of TRUMP hubris bashing, non stop. From the GOP. They are contemplating cheating him because they could not stop him. That tells me he is the real man for DNA level splicing of the system.

All righty; I'm observing, not lobbying. Fancy that. Cheesy

To be honest, a lot of Donald Trump's campaign strategy can be figured out simply by reading The Art Of The Deal. Its kernel, I'm sure, is his advice to walk around the neighbourhood and get a feel for it and its inhabitants before buying a building. He's prolly had his poll-dependent rivals pegged as that newly-minted MBAer working for Prudential REIT that he lobbed off an apartment building to when he was still working with his dad.

This and no more has been his "secret sauce." He walked around the political "neighbourhood" and used his entrepreneurial skills to find out that there were a whole slew of folks that were all-but disenfranchised - and were really angry about it. His own view of the world aligning with theirs, he built his entire campaign representing them in a way that a poll-drive candidate would not have dreamed of.

The only question remaining: will his quintessentially entrepreneurial approach to campaigning - latching on to a populace that feels disenfranchised and re-enfranchising them - scale? Will it work in the general election?

To be honest, I don't know - and I'm someone who cheerfully bet money that Mr. Trump would win the Pubbie nomination a/o six months ago.
legendary
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April 01, 2016, 05:59:40 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.

Were they way, way more potent than getting behind Social Security reform?

(Yes, that's a hint.)


560+ millions of TRUMP hubris bashing, non stop. From the GOP. They are contemplating cheating him because they could not stop him. That tells me he is the real man for DNA level splicing of the system.



The running dogs and lackeys of the GOP would circle their goats, and erect a huge shrine to Jeb Bush, and ask us all to be happy, to have a happy basket of feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

Jeb is your man.  We know best.
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April 01, 2016, 05:49:37 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.

Were they way, way more potent than getting behind Social Security reform?

(Yes, that's a hint.)


560+ millions of TRUMP hubris bashing, non stop. From the GOP. They are contemplating cheating him because they could not stop him. That tells me he is the real man for DNA level splicing of the system.


legendary
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April 01, 2016, 05:48:58 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.

Were they way, way more potent than getting behind Social Security reform?

(Yes, that's a hint.)

Pointing out vague or possibly not well thought out comments by aspiring POTUS is of course making a valid point, as long as it isn't the POTUS we all are fashioning the narrative for.

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legendary
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April 01, 2016, 05:43:17 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.

Were they way, way more potent than getting behind Social Security reform?

(Yes, that's a hint.)
legendary
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April 01, 2016, 05:06:49 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.

Wasn't his hubris moment reached with the illegal mexicans comment? Maybe it was about islam? Could it be kelly's blood?

I've lost track. And those were way, way more potent.


legendary
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April 01, 2016, 04:39:02 PM
Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.

I've read more than a few people who said essentially the same thing. An interesting crack in the Trump FanclubTM.

Has he reached his hubris moment? Find out and see: he may have, he may not have. But he is going to have to pivot, most likely after the Republican nomination is a done deal. To a deal man like Trump, a deal done is a deal stuck to. If the Republican Party "signs the deal" making him the nominee, it's Trump's show. He and his supporters will make that plain.
legendary
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April 01, 2016, 04:16:54 PM
Donald Trump's abortion remarks provoke biggest crisis of his campaign
The Guardian‎ - 3 hours ago
Donald Trump was facing the biggest crisis of his bid for the White House on Thursday, after ...

Donald Trump Clears the Air With Republican Leaders
New York Times‎ - 10 hours ago

Donald Trump is now the least popular American politician in three decades
Los Angeles Times‎ - 2 hours ago

I'm not terribly concerned.  The negative perception, if it is even true and not another fairly common form of propaganda leveraging group-think dynamics, was achieved by the establishment media pulling out ALL the stops and sinking to extreme depths of dishonesty.  Even some of my highly progressive family cannot ignore it any more.  7 months is plenty of time to engineer a backlash, if it even needs any engineering at all.

I would suggest to Trump that he develop a brief catchy civics lesson to counter the abortion thing.  Along the lines of:

"The 'abortion' comment related to ILLEGAL abortion just as the immigration thing relates to ILLEGAL immigration.  The mainstream media almost always and very dishonestly leaves out the 'illegal' part for propaganda reasons.  Under our form of government, congress makes laws, courts decide if the laws are allowed, and the executive enforces those which are found to be legal.  As president I intend to enforce laws whether I agree with them or not.  The American people are sick of other people and groups being 'above the law' and I intend to put a stop to it on many fronts."



Reason for the backlash is probably because it contradicts pro life ideas right? Not about the abortion being done legally or not and the women punished because of that. Pro life movement doesn't want to punish the women. Only those that do the abortions. The doctors. As far as I know. If that is the case it looks inconsistent to me. So his position here makes sense. Don't agree with it but it is consistent. If abortion is illegal everyone involved should be punished.


Wasn't he responding to a hypothetical construct? He is not a politician, but he should have known better the media is after soundbites to play against him.


legendary
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April 01, 2016, 04:05:35 PM
Donald Trump's abortion remarks provoke biggest crisis of his campaign
The Guardian‎ - 3 hours ago
Donald Trump was facing the biggest crisis of his bid for the White House on Thursday, after ...

Donald Trump Clears the Air With Republican Leaders
New York Times‎ - 10 hours ago

Donald Trump is now the least popular American politician in three decades
Los Angeles Times‎ - 2 hours ago

I'm not terribly concerned.  The negative perception, if it is even true and not another fairly common form of propaganda leveraging group-think dynamics, was achieved by the establishment media pulling out ALL the stops and sinking to extreme depths of dishonesty.  Even some of my highly progressive family cannot ignore it any more.  7 months is plenty of time to engineer a backlash, if it even needs any engineering at all.

I would suggest to Trump that he develop a brief catchy civics lesson to counter the abortion thing.  Along the lines of:

"The 'abortion' comment related to ILLEGAL abortion just as the immigration thing relates to ILLEGAL immigration.  The mainstream media almost always and very dishonestly leaves out the 'illegal' part for propaganda reasons.  Under our form of government, congress makes laws, courts decide if the laws are allowed, and the executive enforces those which are found to be legal.  As president I intend to enforce laws whether I agree with them or not.  The American people are sick of other people and groups being 'above the law' and I intend to put a stop to it on many fronts."



Reason for the backlash is probably because it contradicts pro life ideas right? Not about the abortion being done legally or not and the women punished because of that. Pro life movement doesn't want to punish the women. Only those that do the abortions. The doctors. As far as I know. If that is the case it looks inconsistent to me. So his position here makes sense. Don't agree with it but it is consistent. If abortion is illegal everyone involved should be punished.
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April 01, 2016, 02:50:22 PM
Yes, it´s known in Spanish as Rio Bravo, or "Rough River," but is shallow enough to wade across at least in parts of it. I wonder if it would be feasible to widen it and dig it out at the easiest crossings. You´d need a series of low weirs for the water to back up and fill the widened channel. Much cheaper than a wall probably.


And then add sharks with frickin laser in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh7bYNAHXxw


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April 01, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
Yes, it´s known in Spanish as Rio Bravo, or "Rough River," but is shallow enough to wade across at least in parts of it. I wonder if it would be feasible to widen it and dig it out at the easiest crossings. You´d need a series of low weirs for the water to back up and fill the widened channel. Much cheaper than a wall probably.
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