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legendary
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April 03, 2017, 08:35:43 PM

It is important to note the guidelines for the ASTM test. That is: with fire raging under the entire length of a concrete slab, the top of the concrete (the unexposed surface,) at the length of time stated, the temperature of the top of the concrete will not go above 325 farenheit. That's what? A thousand degrees below failure temp after 4 hours on the lowest grade concrete 7 inches thick, with the high grade stuff not going over that temperature at a little over 5 inches thick, with 2,000 degrees on the other side of it for two hours? And the interstate, with 24 inch thick concrete everywhere, bit the dust with about 20 minutes of feeble flame, another 20 minutes of strong flame and about 8 minutes RAGING of flame that would actually match the ASTM test? GIVE ME A BREAK, the interstate was blown NO IFS OR BUTS. Maybe Trump was questioning the 911 collapses, so they had to stage another example! All the while TRUMP HAS GOT TO KNOW THAT ASTM CODE IF HE IS IN CONSTRUCTION. Yeah, when there is an agenda magic happens!

Huh?

Now Trump is involved?

Did anyone report an explosion?

Lots of us are interested to see if Trump follows Bush, and Obama especially in his later years, and uses false-flag techniques for population management.  It will tell us a lot about the man and how he intends to govern (assuming he has much choice.)

Some of you Bay Area people may remember another similar freeway incident involving the McCarthy Maze.  That was around the time when a lot of engineers started questioning the ability of fire to collapse the twin-tower structures.  A guy crashed a fuel truck in the middle of the night when nobody was looking and within a short period of time the overpass collapsed.  In that case the paving was asphalt which at least had the theoretical possibility of melting and moving to create a heavy spot.  The simplest explanation to me, however, was that it was a 'demonstration' to 'prove' that fires could collapse things in real life where it is impossible to achieve in the lab.  Within hours the mainstream media were reporting that it 'proves the 9/11 conspiracy theorists wrong.'


Huh? Sounds like you are starting with the conclusion and modifying events and making them support the desired, pre ordained conclusion.

Asphalt? Fuel truck? Simplest explantation?

It's easy to calculate the btu or joule input to move steel along it's strength/yield curve vs temperature, and that's no big deal.

Of course you can do this in the lab. The charts were developed from lab data.

I'd expect nothing else but a fuel truck fire to collapse a bridge, by the way.
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April 03, 2017, 08:04:26 PM

It is important to note the guidelines for the ASTM test. That is: with fire raging under the entire length of a concrete slab, the top of the concrete (the unexposed surface,) at the length of time stated, the temperature of the top of the concrete will not go above 325 farenheit. That's what? A thousand degrees below failure temp after 4 hours on the lowest grade concrete 7 inches thick, with the high grade stuff not going over that temperature at a little over 5 inches thick, with 2,000 degrees on the other side of it for two hours? And the interstate, with 24 inch thick concrete everywhere, bit the dust with about 20 minutes of feeble flame, another 20 minutes of strong flame and about 8 minutes RAGING of flame that would actually match the ASTM test? GIVE ME A BREAK, the interstate was blown NO IFS OR BUTS. Maybe Trump was questioning the 911 collapses, so they had to stage another example! All the while TRUMP HAS GOT TO KNOW THAT ASTM CODE IF HE IS IN CONSTRUCTION. Yeah, when there is an agenda magic happens!

Huh?

Now Trump is involved?

Did anyone report an explosion?

Lots of us are interested to see if Trump follows Bush, and Obama especially in his later years, and uses false-flag techniques for population management.  It will tell us a lot about the man and how he intends to govern (assuming he has much choice.)

Some of you Bay Area people may remember another similar freeway incident involving the McCarthy Maze.  That was around the time when a lot of engineers started questioning the ability of fire to collapse the twin-tower structures.  A guy crashed a fuel truck in the middle of the night when nobody was looking and within a short period of time the overpass collapsed.  In that case the paving was asphalt which at least had the theoretical possibility of melting and moving to create a heavy spot.  The simplest explanation to me, however, was that it was a 'demonstration' to 'prove' that fires could collapse things in real life where it is impossible to achieve in the lab.  Within hours the mainstream media were reporting that it 'proves the 9/11 conspiracy theorists wrong.'



^^^Bingo!
legendary
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April 02, 2017, 10:36:12 PM
D@mn.

Have to agree.  It's no joke.

This is why MAGA!  To be fair I am not sure yet if the news regarding Trump and the ISP's is true.  But I am sure that the "leaks" will not stop from his team because the agencies he is trusting and some of our "allies" are the ones that have him wiretapped.  Until Trump realizes this there will be more leaks I will guess..

There is a good deal of collusion between certain members of the GOP (such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham) and the Democrat establishment, which is consisted of the Clinton crime family, Biden, Weiner.etc. This is going to make the situation tough for Trump.
Why do you think that this is a conspiracy? What is the interest of the Republicans to help the Democrats to remove from power Trump. Agree no logic. Maybe people like McCain are really patriots. Important to them than the power and prosperity of America. Probably Russian is hard to understand, but the country's interests always the priority.

Are you joking? McCain can never be a patriot, because he is corrupt to the core and he always lobbies for the interest of various corporations. McCain has sided with the Democrats in the past, and he will continue to do so in the future.
legendary
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April 02, 2017, 10:32:50 PM

It is important to note the guidelines for the ASTM test. That is: with fire raging under the entire length of a concrete slab, the top of the concrete (the unexposed surface,) at the length of time stated, the temperature of the top of the concrete will not go above 325 farenheit. That's what? A thousand degrees below failure temp after 4 hours on the lowest grade concrete 7 inches thick, with the high grade stuff not going over that temperature at a little over 5 inches thick, with 2,000 degrees on the other side of it for two hours? And the interstate, with 24 inch thick concrete everywhere, bit the dust with about 20 minutes of feeble flame, another 20 minutes of strong flame and about 8 minutes RAGING of flame that would actually match the ASTM test? GIVE ME A BREAK, the interstate was blown NO IFS OR BUTS. Maybe Trump was questioning the 911 collapses, so they had to stage another example! All the while TRUMP HAS GOT TO KNOW THAT ASTM CODE IF HE IS IN CONSTRUCTION. Yeah, when there is an agenda magic happens!

Huh?

Now Trump is involved?

Did anyone report an explosion?

Lots of us are interested to see if Trump follows Bush, and Obama especially in his later years, and uses false-flag techniques for population management.  It will tell us a lot about the man and how he intends to govern (assuming he has much choice.)

Some of you Bay Area people may remember another similar freeway incident involving the McCarthy Maze.  That was around the time when a lot of engineers started questioning the ability of fire to collapse the twin-tower structures.  A guy crashed a fuel truck in the middle of the night when nobody was looking and within a short period of time the overpass collapsed.  In that case the paving was asphalt which at least had the theoretical possibility of melting and moving to create a heavy spot.  The simplest explanation to me, however, was that it was a 'demonstration' to 'prove' that fires could collapse things in real life where it is impossible to achieve in the lab.  Within hours the mainstream media were reporting that it 'proves the 9/11 conspiracy theorists wrong.'

legendary
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April 02, 2017, 10:06:33 PM

Lol, citing fire codes is only "proof" that in reality, standards exist. There could be a number of reasons for the failure of the beams OTHER THAN THEIR NOT MEETING THE CITED FIRE CODES.

The most common would be the actual conditions were different in some critical way than the test conditions.

Not a big deal, but interesting.

It is important to note the guidelines for the ASTM test. That is: with fire raging under the entire length of a concrete slab, the top of the concrete (the unexposed surface,) at the length of time stated, the temperature of the top of the concrete will not go above 325 farenheit. That's what? A thousand degrees below failure temp after 4 hours on the lowest grade concrete 7 inches thick, with the high grade stuff not going over that temperature at a little over 5 inches thick, with 2,000 degrees on the other side of it for two hours? And the interstate, with 24 inch thick concrete everywhere, bit the dust with about 20 minutes of feeble flame, another 20 minutes of strong flame and about 8 minutes RAGING of flame that would actually match the ASTM test? GIVE ME A BREAK, the interstate was blown NO IFS OR BUTS. Maybe Trump was questioning the 911 collapses, so they had to stage another example! All the while TRUMP HAS GOT TO KNOW THAT ASTM CODE IF HE IS IN CONSTRUCTION. Yeah, when there is an agenda magic happens!
Huh?

Now Trump is involved?

Did anyone report an explosion?
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April 02, 2017, 09:14:37 PM

Lol, citing fire codes is only "proof" that in reality, standards exist. There could be a number of reasons for the failure of the beams OTHER THAN THEIR NOT MEETING THE CITED FIRE CODES.

The most common would be the actual conditions were different in some critical way than the test conditions.

Not a big deal, but interesting.

It is important to note the guidelines for the ASTM test. That is: with fire raging under the entire length of a concrete slab, the top of the concrete (the unexposed surface,) at the length of time stated, the temperature of the top of the concrete will not go above 325 farenheit. That's what? A thousand degrees below failure temp after 4 hours on the lowest grade concrete 7 inches thick, with the high grade stuff not going over that temperature at a little over 5 inches thick, with 2,000 degrees on the other side of it for two hours? And the interstate, with 24 inch thick concrete everywhere, bit the dust with about 20 minutes of feeble flame, another 20 minutes of strong flame and about 8 minutes RAGING of flame that would actually match the ASTM test? GIVE ME A BREAK, the interstate was blown NO IFS OR BUTS. Maybe Trump was questioning the 911 collapses, so they had to stage another example! All the while TRUMP HAS GOT TO KNOW THAT ASTM CODE IF HE IS IN CONSTRUCTION. Yeah, when there is an agenda magic happens!
legendary
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April 02, 2017, 04:58:48 PM

Lol, citing fire codes is only "proof" that in reality, standards exist. There could be a number of reasons for the failure of the beams OTHER THAN THEIR NOT MEETING THE CITED FIRE CODES.

The most common would be the actual conditions were different in some critical way than the test conditions.

Not a big deal, but interesting.
sr. member
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April 02, 2017, 04:36:47 PM
D@mn.

Have to agree.  It's no joke.

This is why MAGA!  To be fair I am not sure yet if the news regarding Trump and the ISP's is true.  But I am sure that the "leaks" will not stop from his team because the agencies he is trusting and some of our "allies" are the ones that have him wiretapped.  Until Trump realizes this there will be more leaks I will guess..

There is a good deal of collusion between certain members of the GOP (such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham) and the Democrat establishment, which is consisted of the Clinton crime family, Biden, Weiner.etc. This is going to make the situation tough for Trump.
Why do you think that this is a conspiracy? What is the interest of the Republicans to help the Democrats to remove from power Trump. Agree no logic. Maybe people like McCain are really patriots. Important to them than the power and prosperity of America. Probably Russian is hard to understand, but the country's interests always the priority.
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April 02, 2017, 04:25:01 PM
legendary
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March 31, 2017, 11:17:17 PM
Great point, "Bitcoin CEO!"   Grin

Someone should tell him about the New World Order.

 Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink
legendary
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March 31, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
D@mn.

Have to agree.  It's no joke.

This is why MAGA!  To be fair I am not sure yet if the news regarding Trump and the ISP's is true.  But I am sure that the "leaks" will not stop from his team because the agencies he is trusting and some of our "allies" are the ones that have him wiretapped.  Until Trump realizes this there will be more leaks I will guess..

There is a good deal of collusion between certain members of the GOP (such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham) and the Democrat establishment, which is consisted of the Clinton crime family, Biden, Weiner.etc. This is going to make the situation tough for Trump.
legendary
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March 31, 2017, 10:43:01 PM
He has surrounded himself with the Scum of the Earth.

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March 31, 2017, 10:41:37 PM
D@mn.

Have to agree.  It's no joke.

This is why MAGA!  To be fair I am not sure yet if the news regarding Trump and the ISP's is true.  But I am sure that the "leaks" will not stop from his team because the agencies he is trusting and some of our "allies" are the ones that have him wiretapped.  Until Trump realizes this there will be more leaks I will guess..

The president does not understand everything himself. He should be helped by all his surroundings. After all, as they say, King makes his retinue. So in the governance of the country, and other political aspects.
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March 31, 2017, 09:56:43 PM
D@mn.

Have to agree.  It's no joke.

This is why MAGA!  To be fair I am not sure yet if the news regarding Trump and the ISP's is true.  But I am sure that the "leaks" will not stop from his team because the agencies he is trusting and some of our "allies" are the ones that have him wiretapped.  Until Trump realizes this there will be more leaks I will guess..

legendary
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March 31, 2017, 09:51:05 PM
D@mn.

Have to agree.  It's no joke.



WAIT....this IS a joke!

HAPPY APRIL 1 everyone!!!!

SPOILER

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March 31, 2017, 09:47:44 PM
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WOW!  What are you hiding, @BitBobb??    Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Wink

You realize what he is talking about?

ALL PASSWORDS
bank data
credit card data
EVERYTHING...

(ignoring the cases where there is an encrypted link, because they really are not sufficient)...

EVERTHING...in the records of the ISP

That's the problem.

not even mentioning the fact that the algo to beat tor in real time is now rumored to exist...  and that Obama gave the FBI permission to enter any ones computer who is shown to be using vpn or proxies (tor) (because only criminals use vpn or proxies was his logic allegedly).     And in a court case any encryption will need to be justified to the courts.
legendary
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March 31, 2017, 12:12:58 PM
....
WOW!  What are you hiding, @BitBobb??    Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Wink

You realize what he is talking about?

ALL PASSWORDS
bank data
credit card data
EVERYTHING...

(ignoring the cases where there is an encrypted link, because they really are not sufficient)...

EVERTHING...in the records of the ISP

That's the problem.
legendary
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March 30, 2017, 10:50:28 PM
this is a public service announcement in response to the alleged removal of privacy regulations that the main stream media is saying Trump approved...MAGA:

your ISP assigned your modem an IP. You get a new IP if you unplug the modem, and usually

ISP's reset all IP's at night. But when you have that IP, they know it goes to your account

under your name, and running TOR is not going to stop them from seeing what you access,

where and when. Because Tor still has to feed it to you through your ISP. Maybe Tor can

sometimes hide who you are once out on the web, to make it harder to track back to your

ISP, but if your ISP is watching, there will not be any secrets. They do, after all, have

to serve you every single thing you get, and send out every single thing you send out

including encryption keys.

So there's your answer, and why I think all the game playing is STUPID. There is ONE WAY to

do this, and it is as I have said - Go to a random wifi. Set up encrypted VPN. Get your

STATIC encryption key from your VPN over a random WIFI. Then, through your ISP log into the

VPN and use your already resident key for everything, a key that never gets sent through

your ISP. They will know you use a VPN and that is all.

Sorry, Tor won't cut it if your ISP wants to stab you.



WOW!  What are you hiding, @BitBobb??    Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Wink
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March 30, 2017, 10:29:08 PM
this is a public service announcement in response to the alleged removal of privacy regulations that the main stream media is saying Trump approved...MAGA:

your ISP assigned your modem an IP. You get a new IP if you unplug the modem, and usually

ISP's reset all IP's at night. But when you have that IP, they know it goes to your account

under your name, and running TOR is not going to stop them from seeing what you access,

where and when. Because Tor still has to feed it to you through your ISP. Maybe Tor can

sometimes hide who you are once out on the web, to make it harder to track back to your

ISP, but if your ISP is watching, there will not be any secrets. They do, after all, have

to serve you every single thing you get, and send out every single thing you send out

including encryption keys.

So there's your answer, and why I think all the game playing is STUPID. There is ONE WAY to

do this, and it is as I have said - Go to a random wifi. Set up encrypted VPN. Get your

STATIC encryption key from your VPN over a random WIFI. Then, through your ISP log into the

VPN and use your already resident key for everything, a key that never gets sent through

your ISP. They will know you use a VPN and that is all.

Sorry, Tor won't cut it if your ISP wants to stab you.

legendary
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March 30, 2017, 04:41:40 PM
Epic, Dude!

He can EmCee the next hit show!

"The Saddest Loser"


 Grin
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