Topic: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial - page 12. (Read 3835 times)

i havnt read any transcript of the copa case yet, but if the 500 docs are things CSW filed in relation to this case (rather than documents he sent out publicly over the years)

knowing how CSW operates. i bet right near the end or after he will say, "those 500 documents were on my hard drive last year when i was about to file, but maybe a ex-employee/adversary got into my computer and tweaked the documents to now be forgeries.. so what i submitted, i thought was the original but is actually tweaked stuff someone replaced when i filed the documents, .. it wasnt me judge"

Since this guy has over 500 instances of document forgeries, it should be relatively simple for cross-examiners and experts to put them all together and prove him guilty, right?

Day three is just about to start.


I still think this case would be hard to follow or understand for most unless you have specific knowledge in bitcoin tech and digital forensics. Craig probably doesn't even know what he's talking about half of the time and usually just rambles on about irrelevance to try seem he's more knowledgeable than he is, but if he doesn't even know what he's talking about it's unlikely the judge or either parties representatives know either.


Craig is a charlatan and a conman plain and simple. Don't let him bamboozle you with hot air and unearned qualifications of which he's been caught plagiarising content for his degrees. He's only a possible candidate in the same way that you or I are. In fact, I'd say there's more chance of either of us two being Satoshi than Craig. Nobody's disproved either of us yet, yet there's over 500 documents against Craig that have proven to be frauds. Craig is just a scammer trying to utilise the fact that Satoshi is both anonymous and AWOL to further his financial frauds. If Craig was Satoshi he would just sign a message and shut everyone up, but he can't, because he's not Satoshi, so has to try prove it with forged documentation and sheer talk.

Ridiculous, especially when CSW never consider mental health on everyone he sued (or attempted to sue).


Anything unbiased? I would also say we can some lies about BTC, BCH and BSV on that website. And while we're at it, please remove the link since may raise their position on Google search result.

Judge Mellor has an engineering background , i think it will be easier for him to understand the technical aspects of the case
https://www.middletemple.org.uk/bencher-persons-view?cid=32113

As for the rest of the opinions , i will take the opposite stance and wait for the end of trial to finally come to a conclusion . I've been waiting for that outcome ( satoshi or not ) since 2016 . For sure Craig is a pricky dude but that doesn't mean he's not intelligent or polymath . He is definitely a possible candidate of being satoshi . Now it's on his hands to prove what he was saying for a long time , that identity is not being proven with a digital signature ( which i strongly agree ) .

The sad thing for me is that most of the members of the community haven't done their own research of who this man is and just following "influencers" opinion ( Vitalik , Sirer , Heart , CZ etc ) and want to send this man to the fire without a trial . Vitalik , the guy who thinks possessing child porn should not be a crime , has discredited Gavin and Craig first , let's not forget that . Sirer also not one honest guys in the space . Heart is gonna face US justice sooner or later . CZ , well , things not going well for him . All of them have personal interest for a non functioning bitcoin , so draw your conclusion .

Anyways , grab your popcorn and enjoy the show . We will either celebrate him as satoshi or see him behind bars . In case he manages to prove that he is the one , we will have a story like Dostoyevky's .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Inquisitor

copa is not in court asking CSW to reveal the true identity of satoshi.. correct.. but its because EVERYONE including COPA know that CSW knows nothing about satoshi, so its not even a question to need ask CSW about real identity of satoshi

any time anyone asks CSW to prove satoshi is not about revealing satoshi, its more of a trigger to make CSW admit he has no proof/association

copa is in court against CSW to stop him from pretending he is/he knows satoshi
which as a result stops CSW from being a continual lying idiot making false claims.. which results in CSW not able to sue others

those twitter accounts were not made by the real satoshi

jack dorsey doesnt know satoshi

Will the real Satoshi Nakamoto please stand up?

https://mugglehead.com/will-the-real-satoshi-nakamoto-please-stand-up/

Over the last 10 years, people are looking for information of the real man behind Bitcoin and
Blockchain but any body the news reporters suspected to be the wrong guy. Even a CSW has
claimed in some extend but there is no definite proof.  

Now the time has come for the real Satoshi Nakamoto to emerge from the shadow, and tell the
barrister why he has not come forward to claim his stash of Bitcoin and fortune  of credential.

Well, Satoshi does not need to claim it publicly as he has got all those BTC and may be more.
For recognition, yes he can just provide proof and evidence.

According to Metta Data, the real Satoshi is known to the community leaders. Even Jack Dorsey
also know him because it is Satoshi Nakamoto first created a Bitcoin Twitter accounts known as
@Bitcoin and @Nakamoto or may be more.  COPA  is not suing CSW to reveal the true identity
of Satoshi but COPA is suing Craig to stop him suing the developers.   I thing enough is enough !
It is time for COPA to request the real Satoshi to  come forward and reveal his identity with full
evidences so CSW will over out of UK either to Australia or to Caribbean Island to retire from his
elaborate hoax.  I suspect, if COPA and CSW are mutually staging the Case for some other intention
 to destroy BTC then I think the real Satoshi will jump up and challenge CSW to protect the Bitcoin
being get hijacked second times.

Craig Wright is a scum bag plain and simple. He has long abused the legal system in a failed attempt to get his name associated with the inventor of a breakthrough technology. Due to his own actions, Craig Wright's name has become synonymous with pathetic lying fraudster.

CSW doesnt own those and yes did infact grab a random "richlist" of publicly available data
the funniest part is the real satoshi knew about things like extranonce and lets say the real satoshi forgot his wallet/lost his wallet.. the real satoshi knew enough that he could have even used Sergios Lerner "patoshi pattern" to grab a list of addresses that would be more accurately possible to be satoshis

CSW is so dumb he didnt even pick the right addresses to seem credible to pretend to own..  because he didnt even do basic research into bitcoin or stuff that the real satoshi would know.

even before the "need a signature proof" drama of those lists.. just checking some of the addresses were not part of the "patoshi pattern" was proof enough that its not a satoshi list csw had.

in short CSW's address selection, by not being based on addresses even sergio lerner could establish, is proof enough CSW aint satoshi because CSW doesnt even know basics of bitcoin to have found a plausible list of addresses.. but yea the real owners of CSW's random selection signing to say they are not CSW is extra proof CSW is a conniving lying idiot

It's meant to be a free pass out of any sticky situation they find themselves in, buying him more time to keep spewing the crap he does.
It could also be an insurance so should he ever be in the line of getting convicted for his forgeries, he runs back to the fact that he is handicapped and should be giving a lighter punishment.

They could also just get someone to interpret the technical aspects to them and give a clearer understanding on how the network works.

The lawyer forgot that including those as an excuse would make them look clueless. They didn't understand that people would take it negatively and people would understand that they were trying to get some sympathy. The court needs some kind of legal and real documents but I don't think they have any.

However, I don't know about the judges, but they should have some technical knowledge as well. Do you guys remember the case between Hodlnut and CSW where the Judge said they do not understand these things well? If the Judge do not understand, how they will make a conclusion?

Well, his argument is that they will legally have to do so by order of the court, in a similar way that Craig will probably have to stop referring to himself as Satoshi if found guilty, or be in contempt of court. What he either wants to do is get the devs to fork bitcoin or just change the code to give him access to Satoshi's lost fortune, or just grant him access as the head dev for him to do as he pleases with bitcoin. I mean, it will be an interesting situation if he did win, but I'm sure COPA/Bitcoin developers would appeal. Craig's whole MO is that you use the courts to prove ownership which is what he's trying to do, similarly as in if he lost a load of cash or property due to fraud or theft you would use the courts to legally try get it back and that's what he's doing here. He's very devious and conniving and that's why I think he's very dangerous, despite him having little chance of winning in court.


They probably weren't Satoshi's coins. Craig just likely went through the bitcoin "rich list" and chose a load of long-dormant addresses assuming they were either lost or inaccessible, but obviously he was proved wrong. Even worse for him he claimed they were double or triple-encrypted in a bonded courier so it would have been nigh on impossible for anyone to have signed a message from them including him, and that's what he was banking on but obviously shot himself in the foot there. Hopefully they bring this up in the trial.

But even if by some miracle he gets a verdict that he is the real Satoshi with all these falsified evidence, how can he "hijack bitcoin" and take what he thinks belongs to him? From some recent discussions, something was written about the fact that he will ask the developers to make a hard fork, although it is crazy to expect that any of them would ever agree to such idiocy.

In addition, those addresses where he claims that "his coins" are located are obviously not in his possession, as we had the opportunity to see when someone signed a message from exactly those addresses. It always seemed to me that the real Satoshi was the one who signed those messages, given that they are coins that were mined during 2009. I'm really interested in whether this will be discussed at the trial, and if it is, I would definitely like to read about it.

Day 2.

Craig has finally been sworn in this morning and is now being cross-examined. Several forgeries have been presented to him already and he usually just has some BS excuse to try explain them away. One of the highlights was a forged document where it was clear the date was altered as it was in a different font. His excuse was maybe the printer that printed it out was misaligned and hence why the date is a bit wonky  . Funny how it was only the date that was effected. The judge has barred Craig providing any further 'new' evidence stating his history of providing forgeries, so that's a plus. Craig is very confident in his excuses and I hope COPAs defence push him a little more on these as it's 50/50 when they do, but I guess that's where the con in conman stems from.

They've adjourned for lunch now and the trial will resume shortly at 2pm GMT.


Well I hope so too. Otherwise the trial is useless and he is free to continue his fraud.


His intention is clear: For the courts to pronounce him as Satoshi and heir to his fortune. It is correct that one of his defence's opening arguments was COPA have provided no alternatives to Satoshi and why hasn't Satoshi already come forward, so he must be Satoshi, or at least he is the most likely candidate, like that's a viable excuse. Stuff like that shouldn't even be allowed in court. Nobody has provided any evidence of being god, so maybe Craig is god too.



Maybe it's a case of the boy who cried wolf but I don't really believe Craig is autistic, or is certainly using it to his advantage. Craig was known to be shopping around for a doctor to give him such a diagnosis and you'll be able to find one to do so. It's not like it isn't hard to fake or feign such a condition either, as with any mental disorder. It's similar to criminals who try get a diagnosis of insanity or other such mental illness to either garner sympathy or explain away their behaviour. Craig has basically got himself a get out of court free pass which allows him to just have a break whenever he wants by feigning a hissy fit or just claiming 'muh autism' if he can't handle the heat. Shame he's resorted to this but what can you do? There's no depths too low that he won't stoop to to further his fraud.


He probably has very little ultimately, hence why he's trying to hijack bitcoin to try claim Satoshi's fortune. He can't provide anything concrete so he just has to rely on forgeries and other such nonsense hoping he can just con a court into 'legally' pronouncing him as Satoshi, or at the very least sew enough doubt for the verdict to be inconclusive, which he will obviously spin into a win.

The trail has now resumed. I will provide another update this evening.

I can not understand why the Faketoshi man needs to go seriously like this. If he has Bitcoins from which he claimed Bitcoin Cash then Bitcoin SV, he can simply enjoy his life.

Going to court and facing with many controversial discussions and even negative responses from community, I don't see it will make his life more comfortable and better in anyway.

Does he want to get a stroke and similar by doing such non-sense but stressful efforts?
I wish him best health but possibly with stress, anything with health can happen.

Years ago, I read an analytical article on how the Faketoshi lied with his laptop. Shame!

Faketoshi will not give up as long as he lives because he has convinced himself that what he claims is the truth. Even in the event that the court, based on the evidence, undoubtedly decides that he is lying, I have no doubt that Faketoshi and his sponsors will find another country and some new court in front of which they will again try to present their lies.

Considering his age, he still has a relatively long time ahead of him, unless something bad happens to him, and considering that he has allegedly already tried to kill himself, maybe he will try again - although it is probably another in a series of lies, because cowards like him they don't have the courage for such a thing.

I would recommend him to move to Colombia, because there they recognize him as Satoshi Nakamoto, but everything can be bought there, including a false identity.

I am not following this case as I don't have the time for anything related to Craig Wrong...I mean Wright but his saga is really interesting and even angered many people who are the supporters and enthusiasts of Bitcoin. Right from the very start the man is obviously fake and I am even wondering why the media is letting the man play his claims to the roof. Now, am not against anybody's autism and we should be kind to people who are autistic though in the case of Craig I think it is quite funny that his defense his using his condition - that is assuming this is not just another lie - to his advantage. I am sure the court would be ruling eventually against him and COPA will win the case.

he is not very smart, he is just conniving enough to know how to scam people and use the scams as drama to scam others in a snowball effect

if you were to interview him you will just get 1000 bull crap answers that play into his drama.. wasting your time
unless you have a hammer in one hand and his fingers viced in another hand you wont get any good answers out of him
so dont waste your time our anyone elses.

He is very smart. playing a big drama.

Who knows, what is his real intention ?  May be he just want to get attention and fame. May be he just want to make money out of this saga.  He knows, what he is doing.  I read news report about the opening of the case.  His barrister clearly stated that if there is some one else who is the real Satoshi Nakamoto then why he is not claiming ?

It is time  for the COPA members to produce the real Satoshi Nakamoto.  As his barrister has stated, no body is claiming except CSW.  It that correct ?  The rea Satoshi is out there and reading the news and laughing.  Any one can claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto and claim he or she has written the Bitcoin White Paper.  Suppose Dorian Nakamoto come forward and admit that he is the man who is behind the Bitcoin and Blockchain.  What can happen ?  Will the Bitcoin community accept it ?  May be or may be not but the truth is the real Satoshi Nakamoto knows what is going on and on over the last decade.

Why the real Satoshi Nakamoto need to come forward in public to claim that it he who is the inventor of Bitcoin ?

According to the Bitcoin Protocol Private Key is the proof of evidence of ownership of Bitcoin. Why this gentleman suing anyone who des not believe that he is Satoshi Nakamoto ?  What is his intention ?  If he is the inventor then he has lots of Bitcoin.  So why he has to make so much story , hey guys , it is me, I am Dr Craig Steven Wright.  I invented the Bitcoin.  Why did he then published the bloody Bitcoin White Paper under a Japanese pseudonym ?   I am an economic  journalist by profession.  I will be happy to interview him with 1000 questions and dig out the truth. 

his intention is simple.. win or lose he can sell his life story to media about either a hero story or villain story. to him its good drama either way worthy of a box office movie... well thats what he promised his investors like ayres