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Topic: Updates from the COPA v Craig Wright trial - page 13. (Read 3835 times)

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February 05, 2024, 04:28:40 PM
#13
I agree. I can see that there is absolutely no reason for this entire Satoshi thing other than feeding his ego. It's not like he can ever access those coins in the real Satoshi's wallet. At most, his end goal is to become more famous
His intention could be to promote his crap coin and reduce the authenticity of bitcoin, which would also do the help of promoting his crap coin.

Well that's what COPA have asked for but earlier today Craig's council asked that if they lose for that to be rejected under "human rights" grounds. Hopefully they don't grant that because otherwise this trial is mostly useless.
I do hope they throw out that request.
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February 05, 2024, 04:24:37 PM
#12
There's probably less than 50 people and the room isn't very big. It's not very exciting or a 'big' trial and doesn't seem to be getting much media attention, though the trial is trending on Twitter right now.
It may be a positive that the trial is not trending. CSW wants all the attention he can get, doesn't matter whether it's positive or negative, as long as people are talking about him, he's achieving his goal.

Would be great to get a legal verdict which prohibits him from using the pseudonym Satoshi. He has had so many years to prove that they are the same person and has failed every time, I'm mildly surprised he's still relevant rough for a conversation now.


Well that's what COPA have asked for but earlier today Craig's council asked that if they lose for that to be rejected under "human rights" grounds. Hopefully they don't grant that because otherwise this trial is mostly useless.

I agree. I can see that there is absolutely no reason for this entire Satoshi thing other than feeding his ego. It's not like he can ever access those coins in the real Satoshi's wallet. At most, his end goal is to become more famous. And Craig Wright seems to not care whether he is famous or infamous, as long as people know him and talk about him. Obviously Faketoshi has issues with reality, which may or may not stem from mental illnesses. I am no psychologist but perhaps megalomania and narcissism?



I don't know whether he's a fantasist or just a fraudster. Maybe both. He is quite clearly a charlatan and does seem to crave recognition and validation through things he quite clearly hasn't achieved but maybe his motives are purely financial, but I suspect it's both financial and for the kudos to bolster his own ego. Not only did he obviously not create bitcoin but he's also been caught plagiarising content for his degrees.

https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2020/05/11/craig-wrights-doctoral-thesis-being-investigated-for-plagiaris

I don't know whether he fakes his qualifications and employment history merely for validation or just to help further his frauds of which there are many. My only hope is that he ends up in jail because I doubt he will stop otherwise. Hopefully this court holds him in contempt for knowingly providing fraudulent evidence.
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February 05, 2024, 03:40:14 PM
#11
They have already included autism and attempted suicide in the process, involving drama so that perhaps someone will believe this faker and liar that is Faketoshi. This guy is a joke, a joke in very bad taste to be honest.
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February 05, 2024, 03:02:05 PM
#10
There's probably less than 50 people and the room isn't very big. It's not very exciting or a 'big' trial and doesn't seem to be getting much media attention, though the trial is trending on Twitter right now.
It may be a positive that the trial is not trending. CSW wants all the attention he can get, doesn't matter whether it's positive or negative, as long as people are talking about him, he's achieving his goal.

Would be great to get a legal verdict which prohibits him from using the pseudonym Satoshi. He has had so many years to prove that they are the same person and has failed every time, I'm mildly surprised he's still relevant rough for a conversation now.

I agree. I can see that there is absolutely no reason for this entire Satoshi thing other than feeding his ego. It's not like he can ever access those coins in the real Satoshi's wallet. At most, his end goal is to become more famous. And Craig Wright seems to not care whether he is famous or infamous, as long as people know him and talk about him. Obviously Faketoshi has issues with reality, which may or may not stem from mental illnesses. I am no psychologist but perhaps megalomania and narcissism?

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February 05, 2024, 01:10:29 PM
#9
You might want to close/lock this and open another thread that's self moderated.
I don't have to follow up on any live feed when email notifications in the form of newsletters about same court case between COPA vs Craige Wright is delivered to my inbox.
This case is very interesting  indeed:

*link to disreputable scumbag site removed*

Lol. Come on. CoinGeek is the BSV propaganda arm and you can't get anything unbiased out of them. Every time Craig loses a court case they somehow spin it into a win.

I think that's why DaveF suggested making it a self-moderated topic, heh.  Every time the truth is about to come out, someone links to Ayre's lie-machine in an attempt to distort things.




To all readers of this topic:  CoinGeek is trash.  No credibility.  No honesty.  Anyone who endorses that site should be viewed with suspicion.
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February 05, 2024, 01:04:04 PM
#8
We are getting down to business now with court case which will have implications going
forward.

Disproving Faketoshi's claims of being Satoshi should hold up strongly in this case
purely with the amount of forged documents against him and TBH it doesnt bode well
for him IMO if already their opening route is the Sympathy one.

Its really all stacked against him, we all know that, its getting the court to see it is the key.
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February 05, 2024, 12:59:46 PM
#7
There's probably less than 50 people and the room isn't very big. It's not very exciting or a 'big' trial and doesn't seem to be getting much media attention, though the trial is trending on Twitter right now.
It may be a positive that the trial is not trending. CSW wants all the attention he can get, doesn't matter whether it's positive or negative, as long as people are talking about him, he's achieving his goal.

Would be great to get a legal verdict which prohibits him from using the pseudonym Satoshi. He has had so many years to prove that they are the same person and has failed every time, I'm mildly surprised he's still relevant rough for a conversation now.
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February 05, 2024, 12:54:21 PM
#6
You might want to close/lock this and open another thread that's self moderated.

How are you watching this? Are you in the courtroom or is there a place that anyone can watch it online?

How many others are in the courtroom and how big is it? Just more for a reading of how many people care. A packed courtroom gives a different feel then one with just lawyers and a few other people in it.

-Dave

There's probably less than 50 people and the room isn't very big. It's not very exciting or a 'big' trial and doesn't seem to be getting much media attention, though the trial is trending on Twitter right now. You can request a private link to view the stream but it's not available publicly other than there. You can try here: https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/crypto-open-patient-alliance-v-dr-craig-steven-wright-and-dr-wright-v-various/

Craig's defence seemed to consist of just letting the court know about Craig's autism and previous suicide attempt due to the stress of trying and failing to prove he's Satoshi. I guess they know they're probably not going to win this so are going for the sympathy route or at least bracing themselves for inevitable failure and using Craig's autism as an excuse for the lies and forged documents.

That's what CSW and his lawyer could do at this moment because they know that they do not have any proof. I haven't watched anything and don't know where to check how CSW was lookin like. Bu his lawyer seems like helpless when he was using craig's autism and his suicidal attempts as an excuse. LOL.


His lawyer seems clueless. Not even sure why his suicide attempt is relevant. It's entirely possible that he faked that too and until I see anything concrete I'm going to assume that's what happened or at least it was a half-assed attempt.

Who know's what this person want? What would be his benefit if people accept his as satoshi as he do not have the access to anything (like old bitcoin on old addresses). Maybe he would be sucessfully able to scam people by start selling shitcoins?

Well he's trying to use the courts to hijack bitcoin. He can't prove he's satoshi any other way so he's hoping he can con a court into naming him Satoshi based on some forged documents.

You might want to close/lock this and open another thread that's self moderated.

How are you watching this? Are you in the courtroom or is there a place that anyone can watch it online?

How many others are in the courtroom and how big is it? Just more for a reading of how many people care. A packed courtroom gives a different feel then one with just lawyers and a few other people in it.

-Dave
I don't have to follow up on any live feed when email notifications in the form of newsletters about same court case between COPA vs Craige Wright is delivered to my inbox.
This case is very interesting  indeed:

https://coingeek.com/satoshi-trial-copa-v-wright-big-tech-desperate-fight-to-preserve-an-ugly-status-quo/

Lol. Come on. CoinGeek is the BSV propaganda arm and you can't get anything unbiased out of them. Every time Craig loses a court case they somehow spin it into a win.
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February 05, 2024, 12:47:19 PM
#5
Who know's what this person want? What would be his benefit if people accept his as satoshi as he do not have the access to anything (like old bitcoin on old addresses). Maybe he would be sucessfully able to scam people by start selling shitcoins?

He wants copyright rights. I.e. money, and to control bitcoin development and its infrastructure.

This is written in the text quoted by OP.

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It accuses Wright, nicknamed 'Faketoshi' by his detractors, of lying about his identity and of forging and manipulating documents presented to try and prove his claims.

The outcome of the case could determine that of another pitting Wright against 26 developers -- including Coinbase -- for allegedly infringing upon his intellectual property rights.
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February 05, 2024, 12:34:56 PM
#4
You might want to close/lock this and open another thread that's self moderated.

How are you watching this? Are you in the courtroom or is there a place that anyone can watch it online?

How many others are in the courtroom and how big is it? Just more for a reading of how many people care. A packed courtroom gives a different feel then one with just lawyers and a few other people in it.

-Dave
I don't have to follow up on any live feed when email notifications in the form of newsletters about same court case between COPA vs Craige Wright is delivered to my inbox.
This case is very interesting  indeed:




https://coingeek.com/satoshi-trial-copa-v-wright-big-tech-desperate-fight-to-preserve-an-ugly-status-quo/
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February 05, 2024, 12:24:10 PM
#3
Craig's defence seemed to consist of just letting the court know about Craig's autism and previous suicide attempt due to the stress of trying and failing to prove he's Satoshi. I guess they know they're probably not going to win this so are going for the sympathy route or at least bracing themselves for inevitable failure and using Craig's autism as an excuse for the lies and forged documents.

That's what CSW and his lawyer could do at this moment because they know that they do not have any proof. I haven't watched anything and don't know where to check how CSW was lookin like. Bu his lawyer seems like helpless when he was using craig's autism and his suicidal attempts as an excuse. LOL.

Who know's what this person want? What would be his benefit if people accept his as satoshi as he do not have the access to anything (like old bitcoin on old addresses). Maybe he would be sucessfully able to scam people by start selling shitcoins?

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February 05, 2024, 12:21:12 PM
#2
You might want to close/lock this and open another thread that's self moderated.

How are you watching this? Are you in the courtroom or is there a place that anyone can watch it online?

How many others are in the courtroom and how big is it? Just more for a reading of how many people care. A packed courtroom gives a different feel then one with just lawyers and a few other people in it.

-Dave
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February 05, 2024, 11:54:10 AM
#1
Day 1

I've been watching the entirety of the Crypto Open Patient Alliance -v- Dr Craig Steven Wright trial down in London which started today and plan to watch as much of it as I possibly can. Decided to start a thread for daily updates and discussion. Not much has happened so far and just seems to be the opening statements. COPA briefly went through a handful of the forged documents including the LaTeX whitepaper and Craig's defence seemed to consist of just letting the court know about Craig's autism and previous suicide attempt due to the stress of trying and failing to prove he's Satoshi. I guess they know they're probably not going to win this so are going for the sympathy route or at least bracing themselves for inevitable failure and using Craig's autism as an excuse for the lies and forged documents.

Timeline:




For those not in the know: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20240205-uk-trial-opens-into-bitcoin-inventor-claims

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Wright, 53, says he is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonym of bitcoin's creator and author of a white paper that introduced the cryptocurrency to the world in 2008.

Crypto Open Patent Alliance (COPA), a non-profit organisation set up to keep cryptocurrency technology free from patents, is suing Wright over his claims first made in 2016.

The trial at London's High Court, presided over by judge James Mellor, is expected to last until mid-March.

"Over a period of nearly 10 years... (Wright had) the strongest incentive to prove he is Satoshi Nakamoto -- but single handedly failed," said COPA lawyer Jonathan Hough in opening remarks.

Documents provided by Wright were not written in the same software code as the original 2008 white paper, according to Hough.

"COPA's case is, simply, that Dr Wright's claim to be Satoshi is a lie, founded on an elaborate false narrative and backed by forgery of documents on an industrial scale," the lawyer added in a written submission.

"As his false documents and inconsistencies have been exposed, he has resorted to further forgery and ever more implausible excuses."

COPA wants the High Court to rule that Wright -- who is expected to face questioning on Tuesday -- is not Satoshi.

The enigmatic programmer describes himself as "Creator of Bitcoin" on social media platform X.

"I conceived bitcoin, and I unveiled it to the world," he wrote last month in a posting on X, formerly known as Twitter.

Wright, who on his website describes himself also as a businessman, has been involved in a number of lawsuits brought by himself but this time around is being asked to defend himself.

COPA brings together heavyweights in the industry, including cryptocurrency platform Coinbase and Block, which specialises in digital payments.

It accuses Wright, nicknamed 'Faketoshi' by his detractors, of lying about his identity and of forging and manipulating documents presented to try and prove his claims.

The outcome of the case could determine that of another pitting Wright against 26 developers -- including Coinbase -- for allegedly infringing upon his intellectual property rights.

Or just watch the Dr Bitcoin podcast on COPA vs. Craig Wright: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e0cAqs-0ng

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.


Updates:

Day Two: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63623032
Day Three: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63630400
Day Four: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63633942
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