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sr. member
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What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

Had a lot of trouble with 3.2.1 crashing on Win7 after about 6 detections, so I decided to roll it back and try my luck with 3.1.1.  Missed the hotplug aspect of 3.2.1, but being able to specify each com## worked out well.   Running 10 Anker hubs with 9 usb miners with arctic fans, and 1 Anker hub without the fan.  For some reason one of the ports isn't working on the 11th, so 100 has been elusive.  

Ran a copy of CGMiner for each Anker hub and hopefully this will stay up.  With BitMinter, I had to restart a couple of workers every so often, so CGMiner has been great.

A big thanks to MikeMike for starting this thread and to everyone who has posted.


How are your error rates with the Arctic fan? I was running one on an Anker as well, but it seemed like it wasn't big enough to get airflow to the USB ports at the edges. On the other hand, right now I have an 8" desk fan pointed at the hub and miners, and I'm seeing about 1% errors, so I'm not convinced that that's much better than the Arctic.

Currently getting about 1%+ with the Arctics.  While the ones on the edge feel a bit warmer, the error rate is actually on par with the interior ones so I've been thinking about getting a desk fan to increase the overall airflow.

Interesting, maybe I should switch back to an Arctic. I get a little under 1% with a desk fan, but not much under 1%. The big problem with my desk fan, at least, is that it's just wide enough to cover all my Erupters, but there's a big airflow dead spot in the middle where the fan's axle is. So the BE in the center of the hub runs slightly hotter and has a slightly higher error rate than the rest.

I have a couple of these on order, maybe they'll work better: http://amzn.com/B00080G0BK

You're probably going to be better off with the Thermaltakes on order, the arctic fans aren't cutting it right now.  After more than 24 hours the HW errors are piling up, it's jumped to over 10% error rates.  Sad Thanks for the link, might just get a couple of thermaltakes as well.  

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the Thermaltakes will arrive today. I'll report back on how effective they are.

I received the Thermaltakes earlier today and they've been running for about 8 hours now. I can report that, so far, they cool at least as well as the desk fan; I'm slightly under 1% errors overall. The two of them side by side also cover the length of the Anker hub a bit better, without much of a dead airflow spot in the middle.

They're a bit noisy at full speed, but they draw a *lot* less power than the desk fan, so that seems like a fair trade-off to me.
legendary
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Think for yourself
That's .5 Amp.  So you think that can be delivered by all 6 ports?  I do have some USB hubs on the way but the Block Erupters will probably be here first.
Thanks,
Sam

y'know, i'm really not sure. add them one at a time until things stop working Wink

Yep, that's the plan.  I'm just worried about stressing or frying the M/B or having the current on the hairy edge and start having flaky problems.  Hopefully I'll find out tomorrow night.
Thanks,
Sam

Well, I could only fit 4 Erupters into the M/B six USB ports.  But they seem to be working just fine.  So I doubt there would be any problems powering them.

I am using CGMiner 3.2.1 and got them mining without a hitch, so far anyway.  I was afraid I would have some problems like everyone seems to be having but the install and setup could not have been easier.
Sam
legendary
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What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.
You're probably going to be better off with the Thermaltakes on order, the arctic fans aren't cutting it right now.  After more than 24 hours the HW errors are piling up, it's jumped to over 10% error rates.  Sad Thanks for the link, might just get a couple of thermaltakes as well. 

"snipped"

It could be the hub itself.
On main page info of lesser error D-Link hub.
Also calculate how many watts you are using to not over draw from hub.
don't put hub on flat surface as heat builds up.
Put hub low in altitude as it's a few degrees cooler on the floor.
Just a word from the blind...
  Wink


It's true the hubs can make all of the difference, I had been running 10-port Manhattan hubs with many problems it powering off intermittently.  Decided to go all Ankers which have been rather stable in comparison.  Appreciate the suggestion on the draw and placement, will give it a try!     
Even the Anker's have issues as someone posted about an issue of two USB ports of the 10 on one hub always had issues.
So on that particular hub they ran two less Erupters. I'm nearly certain it was an anker.
sr. member
Activity: 456
Merit: 250
What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

Had a lot of trouble with 3.2.1 crashing on Win7 after about 6 detections, so I decided to roll it back and try my luck with 3.1.1.  Missed the hotplug aspect of 3.2.1, but being able to specify each com## worked out well.   Running 10 Anker hubs with 9 usb miners with arctic fans, and 1 Anker hub without the fan.  For some reason one of the ports isn't working on the 11th, so 100 has been elusive.  

Ran a copy of CGMiner for each Anker hub and hopefully this will stay up.  With BitMinter, I had to restart a couple of workers every so often, so CGMiner has been great.

A big thanks to MikeMike for starting this thread and to everyone who has posted.


How are your error rates with the Arctic fan? I was running one on an Anker as well, but it seemed like it wasn't big enough to get airflow to the USB ports at the edges. On the other hand, right now I have an 8" desk fan pointed at the hub and miners, and I'm seeing about 1% errors, so I'm not convinced that that's much better than the Arctic.

Currently getting about 1%+ with the Arctics.  While the ones on the edge feel a bit warmer, the error rate is actually on par with the interior ones so I've been thinking about getting a desk fan to increase the overall airflow.

Interesting, maybe I should switch back to an Arctic. I get a little under 1% with a desk fan, but not much under 1%. The big problem with my desk fan, at least, is that it's just wide enough to cover all my Erupters, but there's a big airflow dead spot in the middle where the fan's axle is. So the BE in the center of the hub runs slightly hotter and has a slightly higher error rate than the rest.

I have a couple of these on order, maybe they'll work better: http://amzn.com/B00080G0BK

You're probably going to be better off with the Thermaltakes on order, the arctic fans aren't cutting it right now.  After more than 24 hours the HW errors are piling up, it's jumped to over 10% error rates.  Sad Thanks for the link, might just get a couple of thermaltakes as well.  

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the Thermaltakes will arrive today. I'll report back on how effective they are.
legendary
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Touchdown
I had one of the arctic fans running but it was too loud (my HTPC is passively cooled, so completely silent - this fan is not!).  Anyway, I let them run without the fan and they've been doing fine for days now (famous last words).  No change in performance.
legendary
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No possible because the oscillator for the USB is a fixed frequency one. The voltage is also fixed at the lowest possible for the current frequency to match the 500mA spec of USB ports.

Ah - thanks for that insight.

""Generation 1:
Block Eruptor. 130nm with 6-8J/GH. Each chip's rated frequency is 336MHz at 1.05V. It translates to 336MH/s because it does one hash per cycle. The chips work stable and well at 392MH/s at 1.15V. Further overclocking needs proper handling of heat and power supply.""
newbie
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don't mean to re-ask a question, but im holding 330 mh/s in my cgminer window, but when I check my pool stats page (coinotron.com) my reported hash rate is much lower at times and also much higher, ive seen it anywhere from 100kh to 500 kh/s

just wondering if that normal and reason behind it. thks


A pool can only calculate your hashrate through your actually submitted shares/time.
So it could vary quite a bit at times... should be normal as long as your payout is what you'd expect (or accepted shares).
full member
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What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.
You're probably going to be better off with the Thermaltakes on order, the arctic fans aren't cutting it right now.  After more than 24 hours the HW errors are piling up, it's jumped to over 10% error rates.  Sad Thanks for the link, might just get a couple of thermaltakes as well.  

"snipped"

It could be the hub itself.
On main page info of lesser error D-Link hub.
Also calculate how many watts you are using to not over draw from hub.
don't put hub on flat surface as heat builds up.
Put hub low in altitude as it's a few degrees cooler on the floor.
Just a word from the blind...
  Wink


It's true the hubs can make all of the difference, I had been running 10-port Manhattan hubs with many problems it powering off intermittently.  Decided to go all Ankers which have been rather stable in comparison.  Appreciate the suggestion on the draw and placement, will give it a try!      
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1020
★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★
What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

You're probably going to be better off with the Thermaltakes on order, the arctic fans aren't cutting it right now.  After more than 24 hours the HW errors are piling up, it's jumped to over 10% error rates.  Sad Thanks for the link, might just get a couple of thermaltakes as well.  

"snipped"

It could be the hub itself.
On main page info of lesser error D-Link hub.
Also calculate how many watts you are using to not over draw from hub.
don't put hub on flat surface as heat builds up.
Put hub low in altitude as it's a few degrees cooler on the floor.
Just a word from the blind...
  Wink
full member
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

Had a lot of trouble with 3.2.1 crashing on Win7 after about 6 detections, so I decided to roll it back and try my luck with 3.1.1.  Missed the hotplug aspect of 3.2.1, but being able to specify each com## worked out well.   Running 10 Anker hubs with 9 usb miners with arctic fans, and 1 Anker hub without the fan.  For some reason one of the ports isn't working on the 11th, so 100 has been elusive.  

Ran a copy of CGMiner for each Anker hub and hopefully this will stay up.  With BitMinter, I had to restart a couple of workers every so often, so CGMiner has been great.

A big thanks to MikeMike for starting this thread and to everyone who has posted.


How are your error rates with the Arctic fan? I was running one on an Anker as well, but it seemed like it wasn't big enough to get airflow to the USB ports at the edges. On the other hand, right now I have an 8" desk fan pointed at the hub and miners, and I'm seeing about 1% errors, so I'm not convinced that that's much better than the Arctic.

Currently getting about 1%+ with the Arctics.  While the ones on the edge feel a bit warmer, the error rate is actually on par with the interior ones so I've been thinking about getting a desk fan to increase the overall airflow.

Interesting, maybe I should switch back to an Arctic. I get a little under 1% with a desk fan, but not much under 1%. The big problem with my desk fan, at least, is that it's just wide enough to cover all my Erupters, but there's a big airflow dead spot in the middle where the fan's axle is. So the BE in the center of the hub runs slightly hotter and has a slightly higher error rate than the rest.

I have a couple of these on order, maybe they'll work better: http://amzn.com/B00080G0BK

You're probably going to be better off with the Thermaltakes on order, the arctic fans aren't cutting it right now.  After more than 24 hours the HW errors are piling up, it's jumped to over 10% error rates.  Sad Thanks for the link, might just get a couple of thermaltakes as well.  
legendary
Activity: 3583
Merit: 1094
Think for yourself
That's .5 Amp.  So you think that can be delivered by all 6 ports?  I do have some USB hubs on the way but the Block Erupters will probably be here first.
Thanks,
Sam

y'know, i'm really not sure. add them one at a time until things stop working Wink

Yep, that's the plan.  I'm just worried about stressing or frying the M/B or having the current on the hairy edge and start having flaky problems.  Hopefully I'll find out tomorrow night.
Thanks,
Sam
full member
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don't mean to re-ask a question, but im holding 330 mh/s in my cgminer window, but when I check my pool stats page (coinotron.com) my reported hash rate is much lower at times and also much higher, ive seen it anywhere from 100kh to 500 kh/s

just wondering if that normal and reason behind it. thks

I can't offer an explanation, but I see similar variance in my hashrate on slush's pool.
Doesn't seem to be a problem.
sr. member
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don't mean to re-ask a question, but im holding 330 mh/s in my cgminer window, but when I check my pool stats page (coinotron.com) my reported hash rate is much lower at times and also much higher, ive seen it anywhere from 100kh to 500 kh/s

just wondering if that normal and reason behind it. thks

sr. member
Activity: 456
Merit: 250
What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

Had a lot of trouble with 3.2.1 crashing on Win7 after about 6 detections, so I decided to roll it back and try my luck with 3.1.1.  Missed the hotplug aspect of 3.2.1, but being able to specify each com## worked out well.   Running 10 Anker hubs with 9 usb miners with arctic fans, and 1 Anker hub without the fan.  For some reason one of the ports isn't working on the 11th, so 100 has been elusive.  

Ran a copy of CGMiner for each Anker hub and hopefully this will stay up.  With BitMinter, I had to restart a couple of workers every so often, so CGMiner has been great.

A big thanks to MikeMike for starting this thread and to everyone who has posted.


How are your error rates with the Arctic fan? I was running one on an Anker as well, but it seemed like it wasn't big enough to get airflow to the USB ports at the edges. On the other hand, right now I have an 8" desk fan pointed at the hub and miners, and I'm seeing about 1% errors, so I'm not convinced that that's much better than the Arctic.

Currently getting about 1%+ with the Arctics.  While the ones on the edge feel a bit warmer, the error rate is actually on par with the interior ones so I've been thinking about getting a desk fan to increase the overall airflow.

Interesting, maybe I should switch back to an Arctic. I get a little under 1% with a desk fan, but not much under 1%. The big problem with my desk fan, at least, is that it's just wide enough to cover all my Erupters, but there's a big airflow dead spot in the middle where the fan's axle is. So the BE in the center of the hub runs slightly hotter and has a slightly higher error rate than the rest.

I have a couple of these on order, maybe they'll work better: http://amzn.com/B00080G0BK
full member
Activity: 177
Merit: 100
What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

Had a lot of trouble with 3.2.1 crashing on Win7 after about 6 detections, so I decided to roll it back and try my luck with 3.1.1.  Missed the hotplug aspect of 3.2.1, but being able to specify each com## worked out well.   Running 10 Anker hubs with 9 usb miners with arctic fans, and 1 Anker hub without the fan.  For some reason one of the ports isn't working on the 11th, so 100 has been elusive.  

Ran a copy of CGMiner for each Anker hub and hopefully this will stay up.  With BitMinter, I had to restart a couple of workers every so often, so CGMiner has been great.

A big thanks to MikeMike for starting this thread and to everyone who has posted.


How are your error rates with the Arctic fan? I was running one on an Anker as well, but it seemed like it wasn't big enough to get airflow to the USB ports at the edges. On the other hand, right now I have an 8" desk fan pointed at the hub and miners, and I'm seeing about 1% errors, so I'm not convinced that that's much better than the Arctic.

Currently getting about 1%+ with the Arctics.  While the ones on the edge feel a bit warmer, the error rate is actually on par with the interior ones so I've been thinking about getting a desk fan to increase the overall airflow.
legendary
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That's .5 Amp.  So you think that can be delivered by all 6 ports?  I do have some USB hubs on the way but the Block Erupters will probably be here first.
Thanks,
Sam

y'know, i'm really not sure. add them one at a time until things stop working Wink
newbie
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Well hopefully the new version of cgminer (3.2.1) that has a significant bugfix for these devices will allow people to move to it instead of sticking to the old version.
Compiled it on my Pi and it looks like as if it does perform much better with lesser HW errors still on diff 1 (check my previous post). Also, no need for additional options just like with 3.2.0. Thanks ckolivas and kano for the fast cgminer updates. Here's an addition to my previous post to get my test build to 3.2.1. Stop cgminer and do this:

Code:
cd ~/src/cgminer
make clean
git pull
./autogen.sh
CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -march=native" ./configure --enable-bflsc --enable-icarus --enable-bitforce --enable-modminer --enable-ztex
make


What does this do?
Quote
CFLAGS="-O2 -Wall -march=native"
CFLAGS is used to pass arguments to the compiler. In this case "-O2" for optimization (enables various optimization flags) of the generated code, "-Wall" enables various warning flags and "-march=" selects for which processor architecture you'd like to compile, "native" determines the processor type of the compiling machine.

You can find most flags explained i.e. here.
sr. member
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What speeds are you guys holding? Mine is at 330.5Mh/s. Been going a since Wednesday. About 3.5HW errors an hour.

So far it's steady around 334.2Mh/s.  I finally got 99 of them working with CGMiner 3.1.1 this evening on a Win7 laptop.

Had a lot of trouble with 3.2.1 crashing on Win7 after about 6 detections, so I decided to roll it back and try my luck with 3.1.1.  Missed the hotplug aspect of 3.2.1, but being able to specify each com## worked out well.   Running 10 Anker hubs with 9 usb miners with arctic fans, and 1 Anker hub without the fan.  For some reason one of the ports isn't working on the 11th, so 100 has been elusive.  

Ran a copy of CGMiner for each Anker hub and hopefully this will stay up.  With BitMinter, I had to restart a couple of workers every so often, so CGMiner has been great.

A big thanks to MikeMike for starting this thread and to everyone who has posted.


How are your error rates with the Arctic fan? I was running one on an Anker as well, but it seemed like it wasn't big enough to get airflow to the USB ports at the edges. On the other hand, right now I have an 8" desk fan pointed at the hub and miners, and I'm seeing about 1% errors, so I'm not convinced that that's much better than the Arctic.
legendary
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Think for yourself
My Mother Board has 6 USB ports on the back.  It's an MSI 870-G45.

Is it safe to plug in 6 USB Block Erupters into it?  I don't see anything in the manual as to what the total power/current draw is.
Thanks,
Sam

I've heard ~2.5W per unit being mentioned.

That's .5 Amp.  So you think that can be delivered by all 6 ports?  I do have some USB hubs on the way but the Block Erupters will probably be here first.
Thanks,
Sam
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Nice! Smiley

For completeness: That's what I did on my raspberry:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2376165

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