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legendary
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Come on, you are from these pagans, who think that civilization is worse than the herbal stuff? No, if it wasn't for vaccination, many people would die from the most stupid diseases.

Com on, brainwashed. If Big Medicine spent as much time finding natural cures as they do on Big Pharma stuff, vaccines would never have been developed.

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Wtf do you actually understand that a huge amount of medicaments are "natural"...

What are you even talking about? Of course they are natural. Everything in the universe is natural. So far, nobody has even figured out how to think extra-universally.

So, what is the difference? The difference is that medicine is simply a small part of a thing that is natural. For example. Vitamin C is an extract or "made" substance that is natural. It might be a poison, but because of the kind of substance it is, it is so extremely non-toxic, even in rather large doses, that it is essentially harmless.

Other extracts from nature might not be so non-toxic. And that is part of where the medical goes nuts with what they are doing. They extract normally not-toxic substances from plants or animals. These substances are normally non-toxic because of their place in nature, where they are balanced by other substances to be non-toxic. Once out of their natural environment, they become toxic when "fed" to people.

If medicine stopped there, it might be border-line okay. But it is when they chemically make substance that are generally not found in nature, and feed those to people, they become dangerous.

Use nature as it was meant to be used. Leave the substances in their natural form. To get vitamin C, eat the orange or cherry, so that you get the whole benefit, and also the natural protection from any potential toxicity.

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Come on, you are from these pagans, who think that civilization is worse than the herbal stuff? No, if it wasn't for vaccination, many people would die from the most stupid diseases.

Com on, brainwashed. If Big Medicine spent as much time finding natural cures as they do on Big Pharma stuff, vaccines would never have been developed.

Cool

Wtf do you actually understand that a huge amount of medicaments are "natural"...
legendary
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Top 8 natural remedies that would end most preventable diseases in America





Have you noticed that it's almost impossible to discuss the power of natural remedies with someone who has been brainwashed by allopathic medicine? Even if you talk your friend, neighbor, relative or co-worker into mustering up the courage to ask their MD about a particular holistic option, their pill-pushing doctor will quickly discredit the remedy and then prescribe some chemical-laced quack pills that help that doctor get front row seats at the next major sporting event, thanks to their pharmaceutical representative.

The only people natural health enthusiasts can really "talk into" using natural remedies are those who are completely miserable and fed up with the "system" of chronic sick care. In other words, the sheeple will always remain sheeple, and their doctors will see to it that they do; however, if you talk to the allopathic victims who are on the brink of total health destruction, some of them might be ready to listen, but it may take a naturopathic doctor to jump start their lifestyle change. Still, it's always worth trying to help people.

Make no mistake, nutritional deficiencies lead to hundreds of diseases and disorders

Nutritional deficiencies lead to hundreds of diseases and disorders – that is a known medical and scientific fact. Dehydration, inflammation, hypertension and stress are also catapults of other major health problems. Yet, most Americans don't really want to hear the truth about their ailments, because deep down inside they know that means they have to make some major changes to their eating and drinking habits. Instead, they'd rather go to a medical doctor and pray there's a magic pill (or ten) that will "allow" them to continue binging on gluten, sweets, fried foods, meat, dairy, and products made with dreaded GM soy, corn and canola.

To that end, there's good news and bad news, and we'll give you the bad news first. There are no magic pills to cure the junk food ills. The good news is that a raw, organic, plant-based food regimen combined with the most popular and effective natural remedies known to mankind can prevent and reverse nearly every preventable disease, including cancer, diabetes type 2, heart disease, hypertension, fibromyalgia, and even dementia. Yes, it's hard to talk people out of the allopathic lies and into the natural truths. Still, here's where you can begin the conversation that stirs their health revelations.


Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-07-16-top-8-natural-remedies-that-would-end-most-preventable-diseases-in-america.html.


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legendary
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Come on, you are from these pagans, who think that civilization is worse than the herbal stuff? No, if it wasn't for vaccination, many people would die from the most stupid diseases.

Com on, brainwashed. If Big Medicine spent as much time finding natural cures as they do on Big Pharma stuff, vaccines would never have been developed.

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Come on, you are from these pagans, who think that civilization is worse than the herbal stuff? No, if it wasn't for vaccination, many people would die from the most stupid diseases.
legendary
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California citizens criminalized for refusing vaccines while actual violent criminals...





After California's tough new immunization law, eliminating religious and philosophical exemptions for vaccines, unvaccinated kids can no longer go to public schools in the Golden State. As one of the leading proponents of forced vaccination, Dr. Richard Pan – the same senator who sponsored last year's mandatory vaccine campaign – is back with a new proposal to gain even more control over children's lives. If we let him have his way, he will make vaccines mandatory for ALL children living in California.

While California is criminalizing parents for refusing to vaccinate their children with toxic substances, it is also planning to release real criminals on the streets under the so-called "Sanctuary State Bill" or Senate Bill 54 (SB 54), the Zero Hedge reported.

Earlier this month, legislators in Sacramento pushed SB 54 one step closer to reality after it had been cleared by the State Assembly's Judiciary Committee. According to Senate President Pro Tem Kevin De Leon, SB 54 intends to prevent the police in California from helping the "Trump Deportation Machine," reported RT.

De Leon was the one to introduce the bill to protect undocumented immigrants in California by limiting cooperation between local law enforcement and federal immigration authorities. As a result, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents will no longer be able to access state databases or go into jails to deport prisoners.

Speaking to CBS Sacramento, De Leon explained that during the first 100 days of the Trump administration arrests of immigrants with no criminal record jumped 150 percent compared to the same period last year. Furthermore, he noted that he "will protect those who contribute to making California the sixth largest economy in the world."

"Under constitutional threats from the reckless Trump administration, SB 54 protects state and local law enforcement and resources necessary to keep our communities safe," De Leon said. "ICE is out to arrest and deport honest, hard-working parents who obey the laws and pay their taxes and owe allegiance to the red, white and blue."

In response, U.S. immigration officials cited that even though ICE agents arrested 188 illegal immigrants involved in drug offenses, domestic violence, sex crimes, assault, burglary, fraud, vehicle theft, property damage, manslaughter, prostitution, and incest, among other violation of the law in Los Angeles during the May 25 raid, the total number of arrests of illegal immigrants is lower than during the Obama administration.

According to De Leon, his bill will allow authorities to respond to ICE inquiries only when convicted violent offenders are involved. De Leon has the support of many union groups that protect immigrant families.

Though the bill has been strongly opposed by Republican lawmakers and California sheriffs who are worried about losing federal funding and their grip on dangerous criminals, the legislation received support from the Los Angeles Police Department. They said that they need the immigrant community's trust to effectively investigate crimes. Also, they want to keep ensuring witnesses and victims that they will not be arrested and deported just for cooperating with law enforcements.


Read more and click the links at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-07-16-california-citizens-criminalized-for-refusing-vaccines-while-actual-violent-criminals-will-be-granted-legal-immunity-under-new-sanctuary-push.html.


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legendary
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Mercury & Autism Relationship Confirmed in Longitudinal Study





The international journal Science of the Total Environment has just published a compelling study from the Republic of Korea, where autism prevalence is high. The study identifies a strong relationship between prenatal and early childhood exposure to mercury and autistic behaviors in five-year-olds.

Lead author Jia Ryu and coauthors acknowledge mercury's potential for neurotoxicity straight away but choose to characterize previous findings on the mercury-autism relationship as "inconsistent." They attribute the seeming lack of consistency, in part, to methodological issues, especially flagging problematic cross-sectional study designs that measure autistic behaviors and mercury levels (in either blood or hair) at a single point in time. To rectify these methodological weaknesses, Ryu and coauthors report on data from a multi-region longitudinal study in the Republic of Korea called the Mothers and Children's Environmental Health (MOCEH) study.

The ongoing MOCEH study examines environmental exposures during pregnancy and childhood and their effects on children's growth and development. A unique feature is that it includes five different blood samples: maternal blood from early and late pregnancy; cord blood; and samples from children at two and three years of age. In addition, the study asks mothers to complete three follow-up surveys and—when their child reaches age five—the 65-item Social Responsiveness Scale (SRS), which assesses autistic behaviors.

Key Results

Ryu and colleagues present available data for 458 (26%) of the 1,751 mother-child pairs originally recruited into the MOCEH study. What are their key findings?


Read more and click the links at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/07/no_author/mercury-autism-connection-confirmed/.


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As what I saw those unvaccinated kids are much healthier than those who receives vaccine.
legendary
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BS! Without the vaccines, the maximum lifespan will be like 20 years.

There are many many people who are well over 20 years old who have never had one shot of 'vaccine' or anything else.  You are spouting complete nonsense (which I appreciate very much since seeing people do so is very helpful to the cause of trying to get the prole classes to be a little bit suspicious of the means and motives of the elite classes.)

He was probably talking about the average life span. Average lifespan of 20 years means that a lot of people are going to die before 5 years of age, but a few will live up to 80 or even 100 years.

I'm not one to be a stickler for correct use of the language, but the guy said the exact opposite.

My point, again, is why would anyone listen to anything a person like this says?  It's useless babble.  If he/she really is drinking the Kool-aid from the pro-vax crowd it is a good indication of the caliber of people who do so.

As it is, I think (based on other posts) that this individual is a troll or AI bot or both,  Thus, it's actually not really that much of a strike on the pro-vax zombie contingent.  Other more verified pro-vaxers are equally retarded however.  In my observation.

legendary
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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

Have you checked the long-term (i.e. more than 5 years) survival of cancer patients who have been put on radiation therapy or other treatment methods within modern medicine? The rates are abysmally low. I would say that the modern medicine is still incapable of treating cancer.

Toxic therapies were for a long time the only available option.

Of course we are able to treat cancer there are so many new applications coming out read about NK92, Monocolonal antibodies and so on we are really on the edge of treating very effectivly a variety of cancers. The problem was just that we couldn't target the cancer cells directly but had to target a huge spectrum of cells. But with new application from Immunotherapy(Gentherapy and many others the chances of survival are getting bigger and bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMP6NYGMSQQ

Even if new treatment methods are being invented, I really doubt whether the pharma cartels will allow them to be used. Cancer treatment is perhaps the biggest cash cow for the pharma mafia right now. And they will not give it up without a fight.
legendary
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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

Have you checked the long-term (i.e. more than 5 years) survival of cancer patients who have been put on radiation therapy or other treatment methods within modern medicine? The rates are abysmally low. I would say that the modern medicine is still incapable of treating cancer.

Problem with cancer is that the patients cannot be isolated from our cancerous environment. Have you ever eaten the hospital food? I would probably get sick just from that food alone.

People ignore nutrition, make poor lifestyle choices and then expect a miracle pill to deal with years of abuse their body took.

Do you drink alcohol, smoke, drink coffee or eat processed food? Why?

Do you consume more than 2500 call a day? Why?

Do you ingest food contaminated with chemicals? Why?

Cancers do not develop overnight.
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Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.
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People trust the medical. Yet the medical destroys them right and left, and calls it destruction of cancer.
The cancer survival rate has more than doubled in the past 40 years.
When you look at the statistics regarding how many people live after chemo especially, the statistics will show you that they might as well just forget modern medicine and take their chances. Doctors advise their cancer patients like they play the lottery.
Chemotherapy is a risky procedure.  That's why older and more vulnerable people are usually advised not to have it.  You say that the survival rate for chemotherapy is bad, but neglect to mention that not giving them the treatment could result in a much higher death rate, considering who the therapy is for.
Wake up and stop promoting death.
Just because big pharma is bad, doesn't mean fish climb trees.  You shouldn't go around promoting whatever bollocks that comes from the loudest person on the Internet.
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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

Have you checked the long-term (i.e. more than 5 years) survival of cancer patients who have been put on radiation therapy or other treatment methods within modern medicine? The rates are abysmally low. I would say that the modern medicine is still incapable of treating cancer.

Toxic therapies were for a long time the only available option.

Of course we are able to treat cancer there are so many new applications coming out read about NK92, Monocolonal antibodies and so on we are really on the edge of treating very effectivly a variety of cancers. The problem was just that we couldn't target the cancer cells directly but had to target a huge spectrum of cells. But with new application from Immunotherapy(Gentherapy and many others the chances of survival are getting bigger and bigger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMP6NYGMSQQ
legendary
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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

Have you checked the long-term (i.e. more than 5 years) survival of cancer patients who have been put on radiation therapy or other treatment methods within modern medicine? The rates are abysmally low. I would say that the modern medicine is still incapable of treating cancer.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

I had thought you were real. Because I was basically just showing some articles. I wasn't necessarily promoting the ideas therein. But. You finally came out into the open.

Anybody that looks at the facts, and thinks about them, can see that the standard approach to cancer by the medical, is way more deadly than just letting the disease run its course.

Everybody develops cancer in his life. Cancer is like the heavy metals we can't live without... in trace amounts. By far most of the cancers are cured in us by our immune systems. We mostly don't even know when we have cancer.

But things like radiation, chemo, and surgery are totally destructive, simply by their nature. The only time people live after these, is when these are a wake-up call to the person's will, because of the destructiveness, and their will subconsciously takes hold and gives one, last, big push to their system to keep them alive. And often it works. In fact, it often works so well that everybody thinks it was the radiation, chemo, or surgery that did it.

If you are honestly not a Big Pharma PR person, or a troll for them, you have a long way to go to find out what is really happening in the world of medicine.

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Wtf is wrong with you of course you have cell wich get some mutation in their Tumor supressor gene or the oncogene and becoming cancerous (google p53 mutation). For this part you are having cytotoxic T cells and NK cell and ADCC by Antibodies and NK cell combination.
But thats not cancer as long is it is supressed by the immune system but a view cells, when you get real cancer which you'll see it on pictures than you are ill. Your immune system won't cope with it. I could write for 2h about it but It's impossible to convice ppl like you...


No the problem with all this type of conspirance theories is that you simply have no clue how the body works thats it. You would know it you wouldn't spread it.

What in the world is wrong with you? There you go, showing off your great knowledge of the medical. Yet you can't seem to see that chemo and radiation destroy the person as much as they destroy cancer... and surgery spreads the cancer if one little mistake is made in it.

People trust the medical. Yet the medical destroys them right and left, and calls it destruction of cancer.

Do you really want to destroy cancer? All you have to do is stick a sedated person in a coffin, and run him through a cremation unit. That'll take care of the cancer. And that is essentially what you are doing with radiation and chemo.

When you look at the statistics regarding how many people live after chemo especially, the statistics will show you that they might as well just forget modern medicine and take their chances. Doctors advise their cancer patients like they play the lottery.

Wake up and stop promoting death.

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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

I had thought you were real. Because I was basically just showing some articles. I wasn't necessarily promoting the ideas therein. But. You finally came out into the open.

Anybody that looks at the facts, and thinks about them, can see that the standard approach to cancer by the medical, is way more deadly than just letting the disease run its course.

Everybody develops cancer in his life. Cancer is like the heavy metals we can't live without... in trace amounts. By far most of the cancers are cured in us by our immune systems. We mostly don't even know when we have cancer.

But things like radiation, chemo, and surgery are totally destructive, simply by their nature. The only time people live after these, is when these are a wake-up call to the person's will, because of the destructiveness, and their will subconsciously takes hold and gives one, last, big push to their system to keep them alive. And often it works. In fact, it often works so well that everybody thinks it was the radiation, chemo, or surgery that did it.

If you are honestly not a Big Pharma PR person, or a troll for them, you have a long way to go to find out what is really happening in the world of medicine.

Cool

Wtf is wrong with you of course you have cell wich get some mutation in their Tumor supressor gene or the oncogene and becoming cancerous (google p53 mutation). For this part you are having cytotoxic T cells and NK cell and ADCC by Antibodies and NK cell combination.
But thats not cancer as long is it is supressed by the immune system but a view cells, when you get real cancer which you'll see it on pictures than you are ill. Your immune system won't cope with it. I could write for 2h about it but It's impossible to convice ppl like you...


No the problem with all this type of conspirance theories is that you simply have no clue how the body works thats it. You would know it you wouldn't spread it.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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I've also heard about this many times in the past. Cancer treatment is the worst application of modern medicine. The treatment is effective only in a few cases, and the patient suffers from intense pain due to repetitive sessions of radiotherapy and chemo. We need to find an effective treatment regimen for cancer, from stage 2a onwards.

Oh gosh ... this is such a stupidity. It's like speaking about a car and explaining that a motor is something evil.

I had thought you were real. Because I was basically just showing some articles. I wasn't necessarily promoting the ideas therein. But. You finally came out into the open.

Anybody that looks at the facts, and thinks about them, can see that the standard approach to cancer by the medical, is way more deadly than just letting the disease run its course.

Everybody develops cancer in his life. Cancer is like the heavy metals we can't live without... in trace amounts. By far most of the cancers are cured in us by our immune systems. We mostly don't even know when we have cancer.

But things like radiation, chemo, and surgery are totally destructive, simply by their nature. The only time people live after these, is when these are a wake-up call to the person's will, because of the destructiveness, and their will subconsciously takes hold and gives one, last, big push to their system to keep them alive. And often it works. In fact, it often works so well that everybody thinks it was the radiation, chemo, or surgery that did it.

If you are honestly not a Big Pharma PR person, or a troll for them, you have a long way to go to find out what is really happening in the world of medicine.

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It is very likely due to the fact that a lot of vaccines have heavy metals in them(think from the periodic table). These metals are really heavy because of how many protons/neutrons they have. The charge from these metals is not healthy to consume in the human body.

For example, if you get rusted metal into your bloodstreem you can die. Metal breaks down overtime and is toxic when it oxidizes.

Without heavy metals you couldn't be alive... And which vaccine has heavy metals ?!
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It is very likely due to the fact that a lot of vaccines have heavy metals in them(think from the periodic table). These metals are really heavy because of how many protons/neutrons they have. The charge from these metals is not healthy to consume in the human body.

For example, if you get rusted metal into your bloodstreem you can die. Metal breaks down overtime and is toxic when it oxidizes.
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