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Quote from: iv4n on May 14, 2020, 03:05:12 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on May 13, 2020, 03:15:16 PM

I understand the sentiment of the others about Choosing A but are you willing to just see the world like this, waiting for unknown, without a specific timeline when the vaccine will be made? The effect of no-business can result in an economic loss as it plays a big role in every country. The effect might be as heavy as what the pandemic virus brings if the situation will last for several months or years.

I also like A but seeing the status of vaccine, and I know it's really difficult to formulate one even all world experts are working on this, it's a gamble to just wait for it. We need to see businesses slowly coming back and the sports industry is one of them.

As long as everything is set up properly, I'm sure everything will be fine.

The effect of no-business will result in much more than economic loss, people will not have what to eat, especially people in big cities! Or they will have what to eat, but they will not have money for food! I understand the fear from virus, but shutting down everything isn't a good solution for fighting against this invisible enemy!
Even with this few months there will be consequences for many, slowly getting back in the game is what everyone needs! I say protect yourself as much as you can, but you can't run from your destiny! Choice is simple, either you will go to work and risk getting sick (covid is not the first or the last virus or disease we are facing), or you and family can starve to death!
I think we didn't need this drama in the first place, I understand we need to be careful, to wash hands after touching anything, to have high level of hygiene, but for many of us that's a normal thing!!!

I think there are games that would be safe to play in the crisis... games like tennis, horse racing and other similar games that somewhat require fixed minimum space between players, and rare for players to come close or collide with each other while playing them. I guess that is what they could start with to see how things will turn out.

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Quote from: DevilSlayer on May 19, 2020, 09:20:26 PM

There are certain sports that are now available again like tennis, table tennis and badminton but only single player. Sports like basketball, volleyball or anything that can considered as contact sports are still prohibited because it against the social distancing. Contact sports will be okay again if there will now a vaccine that will produce.

Anyway the U.S. has successfully to passed the first phase of the testing of the vaccine that they recently made. If the vaccine passed all the test, then for sure that we will see again contact sports.

We can only hope that the sports event will be okay, and the social distancing will really apply in that event to protect people or staff who involve in the tournament. But I don't know if its a real news or not because I heard that in June, football will reschedule the events or will start again after its delay for some time. If that happens, I hope that every staff can be careful, and have a big concern to prioritize the safety of the people or the players.

Not just the U.S. that is still trying to find the vaccine because many countries still testing the vaccine before they can provide safety to launch the vaccine to people. I am sure many people will be saved once the vaccine found.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on May 15, 2020, 03:08:01 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on May 07, 2020, 08:04:27 PM

a) wait for the vaccine even it will take years, end of the discussion

For me, this is the best answer since COVID-19 is not a normal virus (that's why it reaches the pandemic level) so definitely the vaccine will take a lot of months before it was made. I doubt even you implement a sports tournament with minimal staff and players, it's safe already.

But if the WHO or world health organization found a temporary solution for COVID-19 then maybe they can implement the sports competition. Also, if the confirmed cases per day slow down, I guess we can go for the (b).

There are certain sports that are now available again like tennis, table tennis and badminton but only single player. Sports like basketball, volleyball or anything that can considered as contact sports are still prohibited because it against the social distancing. Contact sports will be okay again if there will now a vaccine that will produce.

Anyway the U.S. has successfully to passed the first phase of the testing of the vaccine that they recently made. If the vaccine passed all the test, then for sure that we will see again contact sports.

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Quote from: South Park on May 19, 2020, 02:55:24 PM

Quote from: Becky666 on May 15, 2020, 02:43:24 PM

There can be changes as we play football during this era of covid-19, we shouldn't wait to have the vaccines before the kick.start of the world football. We don't know how long it will take many of these scientists to find this vaccine because of the nature the covid-19 is been handle by the government. The political nature that the World powers are playing around this virus will definitely prolonge the discovery of the vaccine. As I have always said, we can adjust the system due to the coronavirus while playing football this time.

The Bundesliga is the first of the top football leagues to comeback and it seems everything went fine, so this brings hope to the fans of sports that many more leagues will comeback during the next months as we slowly begin to see a reduction in the number of cases and deaths related to the virus, still we will have to be very careful because if people relax too much we will see a new spike and sport events may be cancelled again even if most likely public will not be allowed at stadiums at this time.

No doubt with that since they have seen that Bundesliga succeeded even on this current situation which do shows its still possible to resume up but of course they would really need to follow strict compliance
to avoid the spread of the virus since we know that we are on the middle of pandemic situation then its just normal to have those measures to be followed on.Hopefully we would really see other sports would
take this step and resume up games because its been a while and we missed too much into those sports that we've been following on.Vaccine is needed but it looks that this would
really takes time.

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Quote from: Becky666 on May 15, 2020, 02:43:24 PM

There can be changes as we play football during this era of covid-19, we shouldn't wait to have the vaccines before the kick.start of the world football. We don't know how long it will take many of these scientists to find this vaccine because of the nature the covid-19 is been handle by the government. The political nature that the World powers are playing around this virus will definitely prolonge the discovery of the vaccine. As I have always said, we can adjust the system due to the coronavirus while playing football this time.

The Bundesliga is the first of the top football leagues to comeback and it seems everything went fine, so this brings hope to the fans of sports that many more leagues will comeback during the next months as we slowly begin to see a reduction in the number of cases and deaths related to the virus, still we will have to be very careful because if people relax too much we will see a new spike and sport events may be cancelled again even if most likely public will not be allowed at stadiums at this time.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 07, 2020, 08:04:27 PM

a) wait for the vaccine even it will take years, end of the discussion

For me, this is the best answer since COVID-19 is not a normal virus (that's why it reaches the pandemic level) so definitely the vaccine will take a lot of months before it was made. I doubt even you implement a sports tournament with minimal staff and players, it's safe already.

But if the WHO or world health organization found a temporary solution for COVID-19 then maybe they can implement the sports competition. Also, if the confirmed cases per day slow down, I guess we can go for the (b).

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There can be changes as we play football during this era of covid-19, we shouldn't wait to have the vaccines before the kick.start of the world football. We don't know how long it will take many of these scientists to find this vaccine because of the nature the covid-19 is been handle by the government. The political nature that the World powers are playing around this virus will definitely prolonge the discovery of the vaccine. As I have always said, we can adjust the system due to the coronavirus while playing football this time.

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Quote from: Renampun on May 14, 2020, 02:49:52 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on May 14, 2020, 11:51:08 AM

Sporting events are also business that rakes huge amount of money. And once they stopped, they'll miss a lot of profit that's why some organizations and sports have already the plans to relive themselves even without the vaccine. But, there is no need to worry because they will still comply to the rules given by WHO to avoid spread of the corona virus. I think this is just the start of it and other sports in different countries that have lower case of corona virus will go back again.

billions of dollars in profits from all sports match lost...
I also think the same as you, countries that have low covid19 cases, sure will start holding sports matches in their countries, especially football matches. in my city alone there is a discourse from the government to hold back some sports matches without spectators which were delayed if the positive case of the virus is reduced by 90%.

As long as they can maintain the orders from the higher ups to avoid spreading of the virus, that's already enough I guess. They can still manage to make those sports done.
And if somebody will ask how about the profit they'll make, well, that's where the ads will come in from the broadcast that they have. That's for sure because many sports fans would love to watch a game in the middle of pandemic.

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Quote from: Renampun on May 14, 2020, 02:49:52 PM

~snip~.............if the positive case of the virus is reduced by 90%.

I think it will certainly take time and no sports will be allowed since 90% is a high target.
The only way to make it possible in a short period of time is the vaccine, without it, it's unlikely to happen.

Think of the scenario in the US, let's say US has 1 million infected people, so that would mean 900K should be cured for their sports to be allowed to start.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 07, 2020, 08:04:27 PM

Most sports events are halted, suspended, postponed, and canceled because of the pandemic virus for about to 1-2 months now. Within that short period, the damage is serious so I can't imagine if it will take a year or over.

Seen several posts here about the vaccine that should be made first before resuming. It makes sense and the best thing to do but providing the timeframe of creating a vaccine against Covid-19 that might take a year(s), is the world can afford to wait for that vaccine?

So what do you think?

a) wait for the vaccine even it will take years, end of the discussion

b) resume slowly with several considerations such as no audience, limited number of staffs or any important things to do before considering resuming, unless the area or place was heavily affected

Since it's almost impossible to expect a vaccine until the end of the year or maybe the 3rd quarter of the next year, I will go with B but with lots of considerations (But I'm hoping I'm wrong. We all want the vaccine and experts around the world are truly working hard for it).

Both choices can be a good one. But if people would really insist that sports events must already take place specially for those that are claimed or have proven to have less or no cases of the virus, the option B will be a great choice because there really is a point that we cannot wait for much longer for the vaccine before we can operate or make things work because it will kill people not because of the virus but because of hunger brought by unemployment. If the government have already allowed industries concerning the operation on food and other essential goods to operate with limited man power or limit the capacity of workers to exhibit proper social distancing, then it might be the same thing to be applied for sports events to take place. We must do alternative ways to make our economy be working because if we will just wait for the vaccine, then it will take too much time before we can be able to work things out. What we just need to do it to have some restrictions that is concern for the sake of people not to spread the virus.

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Quote from: passwordnow on May 14, 2020, 11:51:08 AM

Sporting events are also business that rakes huge amount of money. And once they stopped, they'll miss a lot of profit that's why some organizations and sports have already the plans to relive themselves even without the vaccine. But, there is no need to worry because they will still comply to the rules given by WHO to avoid spread of the corona virus. I think this is just the start of it and other sports in different countries that have lower case of corona virus will go back again.

billions of dollars in profits from all sports match lost...
I also think the same as you, countries that have low covid19 cases, sure will start holding sports matches in their countries, especially football matches. in my city alone there is a discourse from the government to hold back some sports matches without spectators which were delayed if the positive case of the virus is reduced by 90%.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 11, 2020, 04:34:11 PM

This is a difficult question since sport is not just entertainment but actually a branch of the economy. And this industry is no less important than industry. I think there is no way to endlessly wait for some kind of complete "salvation", it is necessary to gradually launch the entire economy with the necessary precautions. And sporting events must also resume.

Exactly, the entertainment industry is huge and like any industry that is that big is impossible to stop it completely, so at some point they need to begin to resume their activities despite the coronavirus, what they must do is to find a way to do that while still keeping the players as safe as possible and one option could be for the most popular sports to begin to compete again but without any audience on the stadiums and to perform regular checks to their players to see if they have not acquired the coronavirus.

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Sporting events are also business that rakes huge amount of money. And once they stopped, they'll miss a lot of profit that's why some organizations and sports have already the plans to relive themselves even without the vaccine. But, there is no need to worry because they will still comply to the rules given by WHO to avoid spread of the corona virus. I think this is just the start of it and other sports in different countries that have lower case of corona virus will go back again.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 13, 2020, 03:15:16 PM

I understand the sentiment of the others about Choosing A but are you willing to just see the world like this, waiting for unknown, without a specific timeline when the vaccine will be made? The effect of no-business can result in an economic loss as it plays a big role in every country. The effect might be as heavy as what the pandemic virus brings if the situation will last for several months or years.

I also like A but seeing the status of vaccine, and I know it's really difficult to formulate one even all world experts are working on this, it's a gamble to just wait for it. We need to see businesses slowly coming back and the sports industry is one of them.

As long as everything is set up properly, I'm sure everything will be fine.

The effect of no-business will result in much more than economic loss, people will not have what to eat, especially people in big cities! Or they will have what to eat, but they will not have money for food! I understand the fear from virus, but shutting down everything isn't a good solution for fighting against this invisible enemy!
Even with this few months there will be consequences for many, slowly getting back in the game is what everyone needs! I say protect yourself as much as you can, but you can't run from your destiny! Choice is simple, either you will go to work and risk getting sick (covid is not the first or the last virus or disease we are facing), or you and family can starve to death!
I think we didn't need this drama in the first place, I understand we need to be careful, to wash hands after touching anything, to have high level of hygiene, but for many of us that's a normal thing!!!

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I understand the sentiment of the others about Choosing A but are you willing to just see the world like this, waiting for unknown, without a specific timeline when the vaccine will be made? The effect of no-business can result in an economic loss as it plays a big role in every country. The effect might be as heavy as what the pandemic virus brings if the situation will last for several months or years.

I also like A but seeing the status of vaccine, and I know it's really difficult to formulate one even all world experts are working on this, it's a gamble to just wait for it. We need to see businesses slowly coming back and the sports industry is one of them.

As long as everything is set up properly, I'm sure everything will be fine.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 07, 2020, 08:04:27 PM

Most sports events are halted, suspended, postponed, and canceled because of the pandemic virus for about to 1-2 months now. Within that short period, the damage is serious so I can't imagine if it will take a year or over.

Seen several posts here about the vaccine that should be made first before resuming. It makes sense and the best thing to do but providing the timeframe of creating a vaccine against Covid-19 that might take a year(s), is the world can afford to wait for that vaccine?

So what do you think?

a) wait for the vaccine even it will take years, end of the discussion

b) resume slowly with several considerations such as no audience, limited number of staffs or any important things to do before considering resuming, unless the area or place was heavily affected

Since it's almost impossible to expect a vaccine until the end of the year or maybe the 3rd quarter of the next year, I will go with B but with lots of considerations (But I'm hoping I'm wrong. We all want the vaccine and experts around the world are truly working hard for it).

I would go for A we need to secure everything first before starting over again.
Of course plan B is also acceptable but there would always be a risk not only for the athletes but also for the staff who would work just to continue some events.

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Vaccine is not already official because yes they have a lot of scientist who are making the vaccine so people will be safe to the virus so they did not get infected but because there is no proven vaccine until now I think we still newd to stay at home even the lockdown is end and about sports events it is not good idea to continue it or open again because what if people go to the place where they have sports activities and they are crowded the chances of getting sick is high.

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Quote from: GDragon on May 12, 2020, 07:08:16 AM

It is much safer to choose option A. It will be a much safer if there's already a vaccine in circulation. However, I can accept option B with certain conditions. The country should already have flatten the curve and slowly coming back to normal. And just like what you've said, no audience. Additional to that, they should prioritize the safety of the players too. How can the league ensures that their players are all covid free? Some sports are physical. One player who has the virus can infect other players. One scenario is testing of the players every single day or every other day.

Testing each players can avoid the chance of spreading the virus. If this can be perform every time there are games to play, even it cause more but the safety of every people involve are very important. To those who will facilitate the game they needed to adjust to make sure that they are doing all the best that they can in order to prevent people to be infected and avoid also the spread of this virus.

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Quote from: SacriFries11 on May 12, 2020, 07:06:06 AM

We still don't know when the vaccine will be available, scientists do their best to secure and deliver it as soon as possible. We should need to consider the facts that if sports will continue there might again some cases of virus. We should also consider the safety of the players as well, I know a lot of people will also disagree if the players will take the game while they also know that someone have already the carrier of the virus. I'll go for the option A to secure all possibilities that it might not spread any longer even it takes a lot of time.

Everyone safefy is very important now other things is better to postponed because they have the right time for that I know many of us are really want to see again the gambling activities but it is not the right time we should wait more months to be clear that there is no cases of the covid19 but I hope they can really develop a vaccine for so people will not scared anymore.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 12, 2020, 07:23:19 PM

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is the world can afford to wait for that vaccine?

I am sure the world can afford to wait for that vaccine. The world making a recovery from the polutions that is already happen from a long time ago.

I'm not sure if everyone could wait longer than a few months because like what they've mentioned there's no actual date, for now we only have estimations that could be pushed back depending on the progression of the researchers.

Both options have pros and cons but in the situation of sports i'll go with B as long as they're given the go signal to continue the matches. Some of the leagues only have 1/4 of the season left so why not let them finish since it won't take that long.

That is what we can do right now and in the next months because the government still fight on Coronavirus. I only hope that the government will think about their people and not just focus on how to cure the infected people.

The government can allow the sports to continue the tournament as long as they can give protection to people who want to watch the tournament closely. I am sure that many people want to go to the stadium because they are bored to stay at their home at this moment. And that can be another entertainment for them too.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 07, 2020, 08:04:27 PM

is the world can afford to wait for that vaccine?

I am sure the world can afford to wait for that vaccine. The world making a recovery from the polutions that is already happen from a long time ago.

This is a no no for me. If the government will just wait for the vaccine to come in their country, the economy will be heavily battered and it will be a huge problem for them.

That is why most of the governments around the world are slowly opening some of the establishments in some places in their country that aren't affected by the virus so that at least there is a cash flow for the workers and employees. Some of the big companies worldwide are already at a loss because they can't work and they can't get a revenue at all. In this first quarter, most if not all of the huge companies have a negative percentage of income compare to last year because of the virus and that is huge for them. They can't afford to wait for the virus to be gone and after that they will back to business.

Some of the establishments can open already especially for the places who have little to no cases of COVID19 in some places.

No, I guess the government is not waiting for the virus because they already work with the health company in their country to get the vaccine.

If the government is slowly opening some of the company in their country, they will be careful to permit them, and if they don't have standard security and health, maybe they won't allow them to run their business. Many of the companies lost much money as their income because they can not produce as usual, but I believe that soon, everything will be back normal.

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